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All of this negativity focused toward Colt McCoy is a result of some folks lack of confidence in Weeden's abilities.

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It has nothing to do with Weeden and his abilities. It is about a spoiled brat that cries whenever he doesnt get his way. QB is your leader. He has to be the most mentality tough individual on the whole team and if he isn't he better be able to fake it.

I don't worry about what Colt's crying will do to Weeden but I do worry about his influence with the young receivers like Benjamin, Gordon and Little.

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What crying?

The only ones crying are those who for whatever reason want to see him gone.

He is being crucified by fans a media alike for no good apparent reason (sound familiar?) other then, those who find pleasure in some elses misfortunes.

I give Colt credit for even speaking to the media after what's been fabricated by them and fans alike.

I already knew that the HU-Man race was going down the crapper, but my fellow man never seems to surprise me with less the HU-Man actions.

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I think when people say Colts cryin it's because of something he said yesterday when asked about Weeden being named Starter. He made reference to how he hadn't gotten much work with the ones and so it didn't exactly appear to be a competition (I'm paraphrasing here)

None of that is untrue., Weeden got most of the reps with the ones, and therefore it's safe to say there really was no competition

Now, if calling things as they are is cryin,,, then that's what he was doing.

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Well said.. he wasn't really complaining at all.. and people saying he was crying or whining are just unreal... he seemed upset because he was promised a competition and felt that no real competition existed...

Now the same people who always say the front office should be straight forward and honest with players are now blaming McCoy for being a little upset.

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He was supposed to smile and say "Aw shucks, Mary Kay, I'm proud as punch just to be a part of this great franchise...

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What do I have to do with this?

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j/c

I'm not sure what colt was supposed to say. Something like "Oh, I knew as soon as we drafted Weeden that it was me and seneca looking for backup, and I'm damn excited to be the backup, especially since I knew the starters job was Weedens when we drafted him." ???

Know what - the same people that are currently all down on colt and want him traded, yesterday..........would be all over a statement like that, too. It would be all "see, the guy rolled over. Not a competitive bone in his body.....all he wants is the check for being a backup. We need to trade or release him, instantly. Poor little cry baby doesn't even want to compete for the starting job.".......etc, etc, etc.

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Yeah, only in football do we interview the loser and get our panties in a wad if he doesn't sound happy.

NTU, but
How do you think a nasecar driver feels after losing a race.

Some people are just so unreal.

I call it the kick'em when their down syndrome. It makes people feel better about themselves and their lives, never mind that it's at the expense of someones misfortunes.

Like I said I give him credit for even speaking to the media after the announcement that we have 'all' known was coming for months anyway.

You think that he wasn't aware that he would be asked the dumb questions he was asked? He knew that no good could come for it, yet he maned up and made himself available just the same.

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I think when people say Colts cryin it's because of something he said yesterday when asked about Weeden being named Starter. He made reference to how he hadn't gotten much work with the ones and so it didn't exactly appear to be a competition (I'm paraphrasing here)

None of that is untrue., Weeden got most of the reps with the ones, and therefore it's safe to say there really was no competition

Now, if calling things as they are is cryin,,, then that's what he was doing.

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Well said.. he wasn't really complaining at all.. and people saying he was crying or whining are just unreal... he seemed upset because he was promised a competition and felt that no real competition existed...

Now the same people who always say the front office should be straight forward and honest with players are now blaming McCoy for being a little upset.

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I think when people say Colts cryin it's because of something he said yesterday when asked about Weeden being named Starter. He made reference to how he hadn't gotten much work with the ones and so it didn't exactly appear to be a competition (I'm paraphrasing here)

None of that is untrue., Weeden got most of the reps with the ones, and therefore it's safe to say there really was no competition

Now, if calling things as they are is cryin,,, then that's what he was doing.

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Yeah, only in football do we interview the loser and get our panties in a wad if he doesn't sound happy.

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I think when people say Colts cryin it's because of something he said yesterday when asked about Weeden being named Starter. He made reference to how he hadn't gotten much work with the ones and so it didn't exactly appear to be a competition (I'm paraphrasing here)

None of that is untrue., Weeden got most of the reps with the ones, and therefore it's safe to say there really was no competition

Now, if calling things as they are is cryin,,, then that's what he was doing.

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Well said.. he wasn't really complaining at all.. and people saying he was crying or whining are just unreal... he seemed upset because he was promised a competition and felt that no real competition existed...

Now the same people who always say the front office should be straight forward and honest with players are now blaming McCoy for being a little upset.

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Well see DC,, here's the deal, some on here believe that Colt has a delicate mental state to go along with his weak arm and inability to do anything right without support from teammates and that the front office didn't want to hurt his feelings so they promised him a competition but in the back room, they all sat around and laughed and snickered that they just put one over on him.

I have no doubt there are at least two people on this board that believe that's true

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Yeah, only in football do we interview the loser and get our panties in a wad if he doesn't sound happy.

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Not exactly, if the Browns lose and then have a laugh on the field with a friend from another team they are also demonized for not caring... evidently they are supposed to sulk home, smack the wife and kick the dog all week until they play again...

Colt was demoted for the first time in his life. I remember the first time I was fired from a job, I felt like crap for a while and tried to figure out what I did wrong, what I could have done differently... it took me a short while to get my feet under me. Colt is what, 27? And he just got demoted in a very public way... give the kid a chance to adjust and figure it out, if he doesn't, let him go... I happen to think he will. This whole notion that a guy is suppose to know exactly how and when to turn his emotions on and off and that it should be instinctive for a 27 year old guy is just amazing to me.

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Listen to Pluto's podcast.

http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/index.ssf/2012/08/terry_pluto_talks_about_colt_m.html

He speaks about McCoy quite a bit, and McCoy hasn't been some valiant warrior in practice.

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HEY, SOMEBODY AGREES WITH ME, I'LL POST IT IN EVERY THREAD!!!!!!!!

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Hey DC ... I hear that Matt Moore is ecstatic over being demoted in Miami after going 6-3 last season.

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Hey DC ... I hear that Matt Moore is ecstatic over being demoted in Miami after going 6-3 last season.

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Moore went 6-6 last season.
though he was demoted after going 4-1 in 2009

you can clearly see from his stat page that he is only a capable QB in odd numbered years though, so this should be of no surprise to him:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MoorMa01.htm

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Your correct what I meant to say and did not, was over the last 9 games

But that wasn't the point.

NFL headlines:

"Moore admits being frustrated by spot on Dolphins' depth chart"

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Hey DC ... I hear that Matt Moore is ecstatic over being demoted in Miami after going 6-3 last season.

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Hey DC ... I hear that Matt Moore is ecstatic over being demoted in Miami after going 6-3 last season.

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He was 6-3 in his final 9 games after starting 0-3.. he also said in a quote that he's frustrated. He really needs to put on his big boy underpants and take it like a man instead of a whiney cry baby. People in the NFL aren't allowed to get frustrated.... and if they do, they darn sure aren't supposed to tell anybody.

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Even when questioned

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maybe we should swap Colt for Moore. and go...

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maybe we should swap Colt for Moore. and go...

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You might have something there.

Right now I'm more concerned how our young LBers look this preseason, because we will have to count on one or more of them.

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I know I'm coming in late here, but Stephens was coming on like gangbusters until he got hurt. Hope to see more of him this yr.

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Pit, Colt was never an embedded starter here

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and yes I do have a good since of humor.

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Montana was with the 9ers for some years after they brought in Young too.

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Actually you are trying to comapre someone who had been a franchise QB for a long period of time. A HOF'er, to a kid early in his career with almost the opoite resume'.

Yes, you will find acceptions to the rule, but this isn't the case most of the time. So you dug all the way to the early 90's for this?



That's part of my point had you been reading. Colt is very young and has had 20 starts. His record isn't pretty.

What would make you think that Colt would even want to stay here? He hasn't publicly stated he wanted to leave, but if you were a young kid who had a poor supporting cast, told you would get to compete and then didn't,,,,,,,,,

Would you want to stay here or go somewhere you felt you maught have a chance to compete for the starting job?

Just like when Montana thought he hadn't been treated fairly he moved on to KC. If the same holds true for Colts feelings, he'll want to move on too.

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Pit, Colt was never an embedded starter here

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He was the named starter and started 20 games.

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and yes I do have a good since of humor.

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That's cool, so do I. Though some find it a little dry, warped and sarcastic from time to time.

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Montana was with the 9ers for some years after they brought in Young too.

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Actually you are trying to comapre someone who had been a franchise QB for a long period of time. A HOF'er, to a kid early in his career with almost the opoite resume'.

Yes, you will find acceptions to the rule, but this isn't the case most of the time. So you dug all the way to the early 90's for this?



That's part of my point had you been reading. Colt is very young and has had 20 starts. His record isn't pretty.

What would make you think that Colt would even want to stay here? He hasn't publicly stated he wanted to leave, but if you were a young kid who had a poor supporting cast, told you would get to compete and then didn't,,,,,,,,,

Would you want to stay here or go somewhere you felt you maught have a chance to compete for the starting job?

Just like when Montana thought he hadn't been treated fairly he moved on to KC. If the same holds true for Colts feelings, he'll want to move on too.

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He also said how Derek Andersons arm is much stronger than Weeden's.

What's your point again?

Oh - you want to point out flaws of one particular player.

Did you notice how he said Weeden is slow of foot?

And, I know you well enough that you'll attempt to translate this post into me hoping Weeden fails.................and you'll look dumb if you do that.

What I'm saying is you pick and choose what you post, and dude, it shows.

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j/c

This is the first "initial" depth chart. I don't really think that tells us very much as to how it will look going into openning day.

JMHO

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This. Everyone needs to just calm down until the final depth chart is released and we have gone through final cuts.

I have a feeling there are going to be surprise cuts that get this board in an uproar.....

What else is new?

**Going back into hiding***

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He also said how Derek Andersons arm is much stronger than Weeden's.

What's your point again?

Oh - you want to point out flaws of one particular player.

Did you notice how he said Weeden is slow of foot?

And, I know you well enough that you'll attempt to translate this post into me hoping Weeden fails.................and you'll look dumb if you do that.

What I'm saying is you pick and choose what you post, and dude, it shows.

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Weeden is slower than McCoy, that's true.

But how is Weeden having a weaker arm than Anderson a flaw? Anderson has one of, if not the strongest arms in the NFL.

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My concern is Colt may simply not wish to be here any longer.

I mean in all seriousness, why would he want to be?

He was promised the chance to compete and he obviously knows he didn't really get one. Reports indicate that to one extent or the other, they weren't going to try to replace him in the draft.....And they did,

Even we know considering not having enough time to implement the system along with a very poor supporting cast last year, a good season was not in the cards.

A back-up QB is someone you want commited to his job. With the way everything went down, do you honestly feel Colt wants to be here as our back-up?

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