DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Who is Ryan Krause?

Points win games.

no teams win games.... he was the only bright spot on O so what do expect him to have 25 TD's......besides everytime we are inside the 20 he gets bumped, picked, and doubled because HE IS SUCH A THREAT!

just stop you have no foot to stand on....your still angry over the whole motorcycle thing.....grow up

I'm pretty sure points win games. And also K2 has produced jack for being in the NFL for how many seasons now?

He won't be around for long with that old man knee that he has.

The kid's a troll, just ignore him and he'll eventually go away...substantially raising the average IQ of this board

Thats name calling and not allowed. Consult the rules of the pound.

Grow up Derden. He is the only threat we have on offense. He might have only scored 3 TD's, and points might score points, but you have to move the ball down the field to get points. You have to pick up 3rd downs. K2 is the only threat we have on offense to move the ball down the field to get into scoring range.

Still hate him.

so when do you get your drivers license?

Birthday: 01-31-82. So uhhh......I've had it for awhile now.

So sweet...thanks Derden for ruining the point of the thread....you know you could have went to the Winslow thread and posted this crap.....

So that makes you 25 years old, and yet you still are this immature? Ok, since you have your drivers license, I guess the better question is, when are you going to grow up and move out of your parents basement?

I don't get it. all I said is that I don't like K2....people jumped all over me.......and it's my fault that the thread turned into "Derdens a troll." "derdens on drugs."

I never insulted anyone, I simply posted my opinion. And People turned the thread into a derden bashing game. Horrible.

Have a dissenting opinion and immediately your a target.

I understand making your point---but personal attacks are completely uncalled for.

Yea, I went into detail as to why I don't like him.

Here's the thing though...none of those "reasons" are true

Those are just opinions. I think it's too early to be proclaiming anything about Winslow at this point. He caught a lot of balls but was not a factor when it came to passing down field. He just had another knee surgery, one that not many football players have supposedly come back from.

He was a great talent coming out of college but his stupidity has cost him and the Browns dearly. Riding a motorcycle doesn't make him stupid, but pulling the crap he was doing on the bike does. Let's hope he comes back from this latest surgery and is able to be a force at TE. Without speed he just becomes another TE (with great hands) that can be covered easily with no blocking ability.

the reason why people are jumping all over you is that your confusing Opinion with Fact.....


no one has a problem with you not liking him....but to call him a bust is a completely untrue and unfactual statement..

when you have a personal opinion about something and treat that certain opinion as fact in the real world, then argue with people regarding it (people who have FACTS that state your pretty off in your assesment) and you have absoluely no hard facts to back up your OPINION ofcourse people are going to jump on you....... (well the 3 TD thing, you were right about but thats only a small aspect of his stats and the other stats show you hes not a bust) )

Just like any other place when you make a statement that has no factual backing, because you have a certain OPINION everyone will smell the BS

Its a fact that he's a liabilty off the field---see motorcycle accident.

Its a fact that he can't block---see game film.

Its a fact that he is facing an uphill battle to be an effective TE in the league in the coming years---see knee injury.

Its a fact that he's lacked ideal production for have been in the league for like 3 years already---see career stats.

"These are our concerns dude."

admittedly his 2 years out of football will effect production *L*

but he has been effective when hes played, 89 ctaches 925 yrds for a TE playing one full season is pretty darn effective in my book...

once again no one is claiming his off the field antics arent a liability or that he will have an uphill battle because of the knee thing

we are arguing your statement that "he is a bust" because it is simply untrue

Given that he spent so much time out of football and the fact that he is facing a lot of adversity coming back from the knee injury--it is hard to assume that he will put up the numbers that he was supposed to coming out of college, being the 6th pick overall.

He's had one decent season so far. One out of how many years in the league. IMO there's no way he lives up to his potential, because of the time he has missed and the severity of the damage to the ligaments in his knee.

This is why I think he is a bust.

But hey, who knows he may prove me wrong.

Calling him a bust is a bit premature. Saying he is not is also. We have only gotten one year out of the three he's been in the league. He is coming off a pretty major thing called Knee surgery. We have know way of knowing if he will be able to put up any numbers this year, let alone good ones.

The Browns and Winslow think he will be ok. I don't think that they thought Clutch would miss a second whole season. Same kind of surgery (Winslow's is reported to be less severe) and from what I read not a lot of positive reports from it when it comes to NFL players.

I didn't think I would have to spell it out so succinctly.

OK.. Now we have all that behind us..Who the hell is Ryan Krause and have we actually signed him?

Can we get back on subject.

That was my point....Either ESPN made a mistake or the Browns haven't released any info about him...

Well, I just checked both the San Diego & Brown's websites and he does't appear on either roster. I googled him and he showed up on the NFL Website with a Brown's Logo. Go figure.

Scout.com says he has signed with the Browns

http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=149&p=2&c=628546

And an article on him from last preseason:

Chargers tight ends in tight spot

Candidates for backup slot both battle injuries

By Kevin Acee
STAFF WRITER

August 23, 2006

SEAN M. HAFFEY / Union-Tribune

It's difficult to say, from day to day, whether the Chargers have one too many tight ends or one too few.

If healthy, Aaron Shea and Ryan Krause would likely be competing for a roster spot.

But that's the biggest of ifs in this training camp.

Shea has not practiced since a week into camp, down with a lower back injury. Krause sat most of the first two weeks of camp with a strained left hamstring, returned to be the team's leading receiver in the preseason opener and then strained his right hamstring in the second quarter of Friday's exhibition at Chicago.

“My hope is we can get (both) of them healthy so we can get a chance to evaluate the (position) and make the right decisions there,” head coach Marty Schottenheimer said yesterday.

That's a nice thing to hope for. But there so far has been little to be optimistic about the possibility Shea will get healthy or Krause will stay healthy in order to fight for what is likely the final spot on the depth chart behind Antonio Gates and Brandon Manumaleuna.

“It's embarrassing,” Shea said. “You go somewhere and you're hurt right away. First impressions mean so much.”

Shea, whose three-year contract paid him a $700,000 roster bonus in March, has six years of experience (albeit somewhat injury-plagued experience) going for him.

“It's getting better,” he said. “It's just slower than I hoped it would be. I'm just trying to be smart about it.”

The Chargers have yet to see anything approaching consistency from Krause, a sixth-round pick in 2004.

He has flashed tiny glimpses, like his five-catch day in the final game of the 2004 season. But he has missed huge chunks of time. A foot injury had him out from the fourth week on last season. He has practiced less than half the time this training camp.

“I'm having trouble being healthy,” Krause said. “I think everyone is frustrated. The coaches came to me wondering what the solution is.”

Krause reported to camp overweight but has lost 12 pounds, down to 243. So he doesn't know why he cannot keep his legs healthy. Understanding a career could be at stake in the next few weeks, he is tormented.

“I've just got to find a solution, just find a way to get back on the field,” he said. “ ... The coaches, the people upstairs, they have expectations. Right now I'm not giving them what they expect.”

And he is torn. Krause said he doesn't want to go back out on the field until he is closer to fully healthy, because he doesn't want to risk getting hurt again and released. But he knows that by not being on the field, he is at risk as well.

“I don't know if I'm dealing with it the wrong way or if I'm being safe by taking care of myself,” he said.

Shea, even though the bonus he already received would cost the Chargers a fair amount for nothing if he were released, knows he has to get healthy, too.

“There are people trying to get your job,” he said. “I know I've got to get back. That's always in the back of your mind.”

Schottenheimer seemed to balk at the idea of keeping four tight ends. A team generally keeps three, but the coach did not rule out retaining just two.

“Or,” Schottenheimer said, “you try to see which one of them has the best chance of recovering first.”

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060823/news_1s23chargers.html

I can't believe Shea is still getting hurt...and he acts surprised and calls it an embarassment like its never happenned before Has he ever gone through a season without missing games or going on the IR for that matter???

As for Krauss...competition. KW2, Heiden n Dinkins...this kid will have his work cut out to break into that trio. Especially with Dinkins being such a stud on Special Teams.

JMHO - I doubt we carry 4

Four would be too many.

Heiden is a guy who would have some trade value.