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Jordan Shipley’s time in Cincinnati has come to an end.
The Bengals waived Shipley, their 2010 third-round draft pick, they announced today.
Shipley showed a lot of promise as a rookie, catching 52 passes for 600 yards and three touchdowns. But he suffered a torn ACL in Week Two of last season, and 11 months later his knee is still bothering him. Shipley h²s played in both of the Bengals’ preseason games but caught just one pass for four yards.
If a receiver-needy team wants Shipley, he’ll be available on waivers. If he can get back to full speed, he could be a good young addition to some team’s receiving corps.
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Shiply was pretty good that first year.. I imagine he can get back to that at some point.
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Could be kind of awkward with he and TJ Ward on the same team...
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I really liked Shipley coming out of college - sorry to see him get cut... I'm sure someone will give him another chance.
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Wow, is their receiving corps really that stacked that they're jettisoning him now? Code:
85 Armon Binns WR 22 6-3 210 1 Cincinnati
18 A.J. Green WR 24 6-4 207 2 Georgia
16 Andrew Hawkins WR 26 5-7 180 2 Toledo
17 Vidal Hazelton WR 24 6-2 209 1 Cincinnati
15 Justin Hilton WR 23 6-2 190 R Indiana State
82 Marvin Jones WR 22 6-2 195 R California
83 Kashif Moore WR 23 5-9 180 R Connecticut
89 Taveon Rogers WR 22 5-11 190 R New Mexico State
12 Mohamed Sanu WR 22 6-2 210 R Rutgers
19 Brandon Tate WR 24 6-1 200 4 North Carolina
88 Ryan Whalen WR 23 6-1 200 2 Stanford
Obviously they keep Green, Jones, Sanu, and Tate... but which guy or guys are pushing Shipley off the team? They have one WR with more than 2 years experience.  *edit* maybe we should claim him and trade Shipley + McCoy straight up for Jordy Nelson. 
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As the saying goes, You can't make the Club from the Tub. If he hasn't recovered from that ACL, yet, and they cut him, I'd imaging that it means that he likely isn't close to recovering.
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89 Taveon Rogers WR 22 5-11 190 R New Mexico State
12 Mohamed Sanu WR 22 6-2 210 R Rutgers
19 Brandon Tate WR 24 6-1 200 4 North Carolina
88 Ryan Whalen WR 23 6-1 200 2 Stanford
Obviously they keep Green, Jones, Sanu, and Tate... but which guy or guys are pushing Shipley off the team?
They have one WR with more than 2 years experience.
*edit* maybe we should claim him and trade Shipley + McCoy straight up for Jordy Nelson.
I understand what you are saying, but maybe there is more to this cut than meets the eye. Maybe Shipley isn't happy being #4 and has said so....and the coach sees some other kid with slightly less talent who is busting hump to make the squad. Possible??
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possibly, maybe we could sign him, IR him, and see if we're good next year.
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85 Armon Binns WR 22 6-3 210 1 Cincinnati
18 A.J. Green WR 24 6-4 207 2 Georgia
16 Andrew Hawkins WR 26 5-7 180 2 Toledo
17 Vidal Hazelton WR 24 6-2 209 1 Cincinnati
15 Justin Hilton WR 23 6-2 190 R Indiana State
82 Marvin Jones WR 22 6-2 195 R California
83 Kashif Moore WR 23 5-9 180 R Connecticut
89 Taveon Rogers WR 22 5-11 190 R New Mexico State
12 Mohamed Sanu WR 22 6-2 210 R Rutgers
19 Brandon Tate WR 24 6-1 200 4 North Carolina
88 Ryan Whalen WR 23 6-1 200 2 Stanford
Obviously they keep Green, Jones, Sanu, and Tate... but which guy or guys are pushing Shipley off the team?
They have one WR with more than 2 years experience.
*edit* maybe we should claim him and trade Shipley + McCoy straight up for Jordy Nelson.
Bengals fan here. Normally I wouldn't comment and just let you guys take your guesses, but Shipley is a good guy deserving of another shot.
The answer is that Andrew Hawkins has effectively pushed him off the roster. He replaced him in the slot last season and, along with the sure hands, also is a top special teamer. The 6th receiver they'll likely keep is Binns. Another big body who actually seems to be able to hold onto the ball...at least enough to probably merit a roster spot.
So, I wouldn't call it stacked at receiver, but Shipley gets replaced by a dual-role guy and the last slot gets taken by a guy who can potentially stretch the field opposite Green...or at the very least spell Green for a few plays.
There may yet be some medical related issues regarding Shipley, but he's been skirting the cut line since Spring camps just due to his specialization. The only thing I'm reasonably certain of is that some team out there is about to get themselves a sure-handed third down slot receiver. There's little doubt he can make somebody's roster in this league.
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Obviously they keep Green, Jones, Sanu, and Tate... but which guy or guys are pushing Shipley off the team?
They have one WR with more than 2 years experience.
*edit* maybe we should claim him and trade Shipley + McCoy straight up for Jordy Nelson.
Bengals fan here. Normally I wouldn't comment and just let you guys take your guesses, but Shipley is a good guy deserving of another shot.
The answer is that Andrew Hawkins has effectively pushed him off the roster. He replaced him in the slot last season and, along with the sure hands, also is a top special teamer. The 6th receiver they'll likely keep is Binns. Another big body who actually seems to be able to hold onto the ball...at least enough to probably merit a roster spot.
So, I wouldn't call it stacked at receiver, but Shipley gets replaced by a dual-role guy and the last slot gets taken by a guy who can potentially stretch the field opposite Green...or at the very least spell Green for a few plays.
There may yet be some medical related issues regarding Shipley, but he's been skirting the cut line since Spring camps just due to his specialization. The only thing I'm reasonably certain of is that some team out there is about to get themselves a sure-handed third down slot receiver. There's little doubt he can make somebody's roster in this league.
I don't think Shipley is what we're looking for since we have Travis Benjamin and Norwood. I just don't see why we'd take Shippley (and effectively cut Norwood), when Shipley has been hurt and hasn't played in our offense.
I'm looking for a burner who's healthy, and I think Shipley is more of a pure slot quick guy
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If Shipley is fully healthy, he isn't a guy that gets cut, not after what he showed his rookie season. He's on his way out because he isn't in a place where he can be counted on physically.
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He's small(ish) and he's hurt. That equals being cut.
Browns don't need him and won't go after him, IMO.
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Shipley was also injured last year with ACL surgery.. the reports are that he "lost his burst," could no longer accelerate and cut. He could run.. catch.. but could not separate. So he became very average.. no longer the player he was in his rookie year...
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I have had both my ACL's reconstructed. Rehab is 6-9 months.
Playing and being somewhat normal = 1 year.
Get your quickness and ups mostly back will take 2 years. You never really get fully recovered to what you were pre-op. But it generally takes a good 1 1/2 years to 2 years to get that starting and stopping quickness back.
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http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...72-b8b4fc9f526fBrowns waive Jeff Wolfert Posted 16 hours ago The Cleveland Browns have waived kicker Jeff Wolfert, the team announced Saturday evening. The Cleveland Browns today waived kicker Jeff Wolfert. In two preseason games, Wolfert connected on two of three field goal attempts and converted on all three extra point attempts.
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That's probably a kindness to him. He got a lot of chances in our 2 pre-season games, and did a very good job. He got a lot of tape, and a team can pick him up now instead of waiting till the last second when he might get lost in the massive release of the final cutdowns.
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That's something that needed to happen but its kind of a bummer. The kid is a pretty good kicker.
Hopefully him being waived now will give him a chance to be picked up somewhere else. That would be very big for him.
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That's something that needed to happen but its kind of a bummer. The kid is a pretty good kicker.
Hopefully him being waived now will give him a chance to be picked up somewhere else. That would be very big for him.
I agree while Im not shocked about the cut I thought we would still keep him until after this next game.
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Well, it's nice to cut him now to catch on somewhere else but it's also stupid if that is the only reason....what if something unforseen happens to Dawson the next week(s)? If he was a good kicker you keep him around until final cuts are made to make sure your starting K is 100%...but I understand that this is probably common to treat your 2nd camp K that way
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By doing this, we'll be able to attract good no-name kickers to future camps.
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hopefully he catches on somewhere. There are enough bad kickers in the league, Wolfert should be able to push someone off a roster
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Is he eligible for our practice squad if no one picks him up?
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Bills turn the lights out on Shawne Merriman Posted by Michael David Smith on August 20, 2012, 10:43 AM EDT Shawne+Merriman+Philadelphia+Eagles+v+Buffalo+4O798l2tJvql Getty Images Shawne Merriman is done in Buffalo. The Bills, who already paid Merriman a $1 million roster bonus this year, have informed Merriman that they’re releasing him today, Jay Glazer of FOX Sports first reported and the team later announced. Once among the best defensive players in the NFL, Merriman’s career has taken a swift fall, with injuries plaguing him for years. After recording 39.5 sacks in his first three NFL seasons, Merriman has had a grand total of just five sacks in the last four seasons, and has played in just 23 games since the start of the 2008 season. Merriman had missed practice recently with a tight hamstring, but he insisted that he was fine, and had been talking about his plans to come back with a huge year in 2012. That huge year won’t be happening in Buffalo. And given how long it’s been since the 28-year-old Merriman has had a huge year, it’s fair to wonder whether we’ve seen the last of Merriman. web page
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I think so too. We all knew that he didn't have a chance to beat out Dawson. It would have been less kind to wait until the cut downs come along. He has some talent and should catch on with some team I'm thinking.
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Thanks ... I do like the guy, but if he isn't going to be a Brown I would much rather that he played outside our division.
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Shawne Merriman is done in Buffalo.
The Bills, who already paid Merriman a $1 million roster bonus this year, have informed Merriman that they’re releasing him today, Jay Glazer of FOX Sports first reported and the team later announced.
Once among the best defensive players in the NFL, Merriman’s career has taken a swift fall, with injuries plaguing him for years. After recording 39.5 sacks in his first three NFL seasons, Merriman has had a grand total of just five sacks in the last four seasons, and has played in just 23 games since the start of the 2008 season.
Merriman had missed practice recently with a tight hamstring, but he insisted that he was fine, and had been talking about his plans to come back with a huge year in 2012.
That huge year won’t be happening in Buffalo. And given how long it’s been since the 28-year-old Merriman has had a huge year, it’s fair to wonder whether we’ve seen the last of Merriman.
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Sounds about right. They got productivity out of Aaron Maybin, may be they'll do the same with Merrimen.
The only thing is that Merrimen really has never achieved anywhere near what achieved while he was on Roids. And the steroids were probably the reason for so many injuries (inflexibility and bulk muscle).
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The only thing is that Merrimen really has never achieved anywhere near what achieved while he was on Roids. And the steroids were probably the reason for so many injuries (inflexibility and bulk muscle).
But, I bet the Jets take a shot on the guy
Everyone believes this but the steroids were not the reason he declined it's revisionist history. He got caught in 2006 and still had 17 sacks in 12 games (because of the suspension causing him to miss the first 4 games) then had 12.5 in 15 games in 2007 the reason he fell off was the knee injury not getting off steriods but people will keep saying it's the steroids even though that is not true. He hurt his knee, rushed back, hurt it again, and has never been the same.
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j/c Here's the lastest list of camp cuts...lots of no names, as expected... All from KFFL The Philadelphia Eagles have waived WR Elvis Akpla, SS Wade Bonner, DE Xavier Brown, WR McKay Jacobson, WR Tiger Jones, OG Alfred McCullough, CB Kevin Thomas and OT Thomas Welch. The team has also waived injured FS Tom Nelson (ankle) and WR Brian Hernandez (undisclosed). The Minnesota Vikings have released OG Bridger Buche, OG Grant Cook, CB Corey Gatewood, OT Levi Horn, DE Anthony Jacobs, WR Kamar Jorden, WR A.J. Love, LB Tyler Nielsen, DE Ernest Owusu, DT Tydreke Powell, CB Chris Stroud, WR Kerry Taylor and WR Bryan Walters. The Minnesota Vikings have waived RB Derrick Coleman and LB Solomon Elimimian. The Miami Dolphins have released DT Chas Alecxih, TE Les Brown, CB Marcus X. Brown, SS Tyrell Johnson, CB Trenton Hughes, LB Josh Linam, RB Jerome Messam, DE Jacquies Smith and CB Jonathan Wade. The Jacksonville Jaguars have waived CB Ashton Youboty, WR Chastin West, QB Nathan Enderle, LB Nate Bussey, RB DuJuan Harris, CB Mike Holmes, OT Dan Hoch and LB Donovan Richard. The New York Jets announced Saturday, Aug. 25, they have waived OG Terrence Campbell, LS Derek Chard, DT Matt Hardison, WR Dexter M. Jackson, CB LeQuan Lewis, S Marcus Lott and WR Raymond Webber.
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