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I don't think Parker is going anywhere. I think Paxon hits IR and Schafering has played his last game for the Browns with the drafting of both Hughes and Winn.
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I don't think Parker is going anywhere. I think Paxon hits IR and Schafering has played his last game for the Browns with the drafting of both Hughes and Winn.
Your probably right, but Parker still hasn't shown squat or that he deserves to be here.
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I don't think Parker is going anywhere. I think Paxon hits IR and Schafering has played his last game for the Browns with the drafting of both Hughes and Winn.
Your probably right, but Parker still hasn't shown squat or that he deserves to be here.
Isn't parker the kid we just picked up last week? How much could he have had an opportunity to show? That's if I'm thinking of the right guy.
man, this time of year can get a bit confusing., people coming and going and it only gets worse in the next few weeks.. So sorry if I picked up on the wrong guy.
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I don't think Parker is going anywhere. I think Paxon hits IR and Schafering has played his last game for the Browns with the drafting of both Hughes and Winn.
Your probably right, but Parker still hasn't shown squat or that he deserves to be here.
Isn't parker the kid we just picked up last week? How much could he have had an opportunity to show? That's if I'm thinking of the right guy.
man, this time of year can get a bit confusing., people coming and going and it only gets worse in the next few weeks.. So sorry if I picked up on the wrong guy.
No your thinking of Cameron the DT.
DE Parker has been here since before the Draft.
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I don't think Parker is going anywhere. I think Paxon hits IR and Schafering has played his last game for the Browns with the drafting of both Hughes and Winn.
Your probably right, but Parker still hasn't shown squat or that he deserves to be here.
Isn't parker the kid we just picked up last week? How much could he have had an opportunity to show? That's if I'm thinking of the right guy.
man, this time of year can get a bit confusing., people coming and going and it only gets worse in the next few weeks.. So sorry if I picked up on the wrong guy.
No your thinking of Cameron the DT.
DE Parker has been here since before the Draft.
Ahh, damn you are right.. Thanks FL
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I'm not even saying Parker is done put a fork in him. What I'm saying is that he hasn't flashed at all so far this preseason. Maybe he has in practice, so I'll give the Coaching staff the benefit of doubt if he makes the team, but from a fans perspective ... I would like to see something, that tells me he can help this team this year. What he has done in his career (Age 34) is irrelevant to me today.
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You must have missed his sack in the 1st game against DET....haven't noticed him much outside of that play, but just saying that he has "flashed"
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that was a garbage sack. The QB was scrambling past the pocket and he came off of his block (opposite direction from the blocker) and took down the QB, who IIRC is the ever-so-fleet-of-foot Shaun Hill.
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I'm not even saying Parker is done put a fork in him. What I'm saying is that he hasn't flashed at all so far this preseason. Maybe he has in practice, so I'll give the Coaching staff the benefit of doubt if he makes the team, but from a fans perspective ... I would like to see something, that tells me he can help this team this year. What he has done in his career (Age 34) is irrelevant to me today.
Here is how I see it.
Schafering is a classic example of why the avg NFL career is 4-5 years(or whatever the number is)....he is a good player, high motor, but he really can't distinguish himself from the newer model.
At some point a staff has to look at where a player is and has been and a guy who still has time to get better....on paper at least.
Both Hughes and Winn were drafted and both have played pretty much as well as Schafering. That means is Schafering the guy you want or do you want Hughes or Winn at who you hope they will be? At this point you probably go with hope.
How this pertains to Parker is he is a proven vet at DE, and we have a big weakness at DE.....not to mention we probably had to give him some sort of bonus to sign with us.....I am not saying he is a great proven vet, but he has made some pretty good teams.....
Parker stays.....Paxson is better than Schafering, and he is hurt, so he gets IR, and Schafering gets cut.
I hope he lands somewhere else for 2-3 years before he returns home to coach the local HS team....nothing wrong with that. Just making the show means you were pretty damn good.
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Few spots are actually up for grabs and we may bring in a cut or two from other teams and we may have some surprise cuts also.
This is how i think it will play out barring bringing in someone from the outside.
3 QB Weeden, Wallace, Lewis I would keep Colt but he is a goner
3 RB Richardson, Hardesty, OBI Jackson's blocking has been poor
1 FB Marecic,
4 TE Watson, Moore, Cameron, Smelly
6 WR Little, Mo, Gordon, Benjamin, Cribbs, Norwood
8 OL Joe, Pinky, Mack, Lauvao, Schwartz, Miller, Greco and a free agent
3 ST Hodges, DAwson and the long snapper forget his name
4 DE Sheard, Rucker, Stephens, Benard
5 DT Rubin, Hughes, Winn, Paxson, Taylor
6 LB JMJ, DQ, Maiva, Robertson, Fujita, Fort
6 CB Haden, Brown, Skrine, Patterson, Wade, Dockery
4 S Hagg, Ward, Sims, Ventrone
Ventrone, Fujita, Paxson, Benard, Norwood, Smelly, OBI are bubble guys imho. I think guys like Jackson, Parker, Young, Smith, cousins could surprise me and make the team but they have done nothing to show they deserve a spot.
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I'm not even saying Parker is done put a fork in him. What I'm saying is that he hasn't flashed at all so far this preseason. Maybe he has in practice, so I'll give the Coaching staff the benefit of doubt if he makes the team, but from a fans perspective ... I would like to see something, that tells me he can help this team this year. What he has done in his career (Age 34) is irrelevant to me today.
Here is how I see it.
Schafering is a classic example of why the avg NFL career is 4-5 years(or whatever the number is)....he is a good player, high motor, but he really can't distinguish himself from the newer model.
At some point a staff has to look at where a player is and has been and a guy who still has time to get better....on paper at least.
Both Hughes and Winn were drafted and both have played pretty much as well as Schafering. That means is Schafering the guy you want or do you want Hughes or Winn at who you hope they will be? At this point you probably go with hope.
How this pertains to Parker is he is a proven vet at DE, and we have a big weakness at DE.....not to mention we probably had to give him some sort of bonus to sign with us.....I am not saying he is a great proven vet, but he has made some pretty good teams.....
Parker stays.....Paxson is better than Schafering, and he is hurt, so he gets IR, and Schafering gets cut.
I hope he lands somewhere else for 2-3 years before he returns home to coach the local HS team....nothing wrong with that. Just making the show means you were pretty damn good.
I think that we agree here (only I'm not sure of the extent Paxson's injury and it could land him on the IR).
I think Parker probably makes the team as well, but we have to keep one more guy who will replace Taylor while he is on the IR and I think that could be either a DT [?] or a DE [Benard].
My concern is with the pass rush opposite Sheard.
DL (8);
Jabaal Sheard
Ahtyba Ruben
Frostee Rucker
John Hughes
Billy Winn
Emmanuel Stephens
Juqua Parker
Ronnie Cameron
Marcus Benard?
I don't think we would have brought in Cameron if we didn't think he could make the team over Schaefering and with Paxson being injured I'm thinking he has a chance.
I think that Rucker could probably move inside if we needed him to, but if we keep 5 DE's then I think that we will keep 9 total (not including Taylor).
It's probably unlikely though that we will, unless we know Taylor wont be back this year.
With that said I would like to see a little more of Parker, then we have to this point.
We should too being that he is not a starter.
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OK .... here is my list just before game #3 .......
QB: (3) Weeden, Wallace, Lewis
RB: (3) Richardson, Hardesty, Jackson
FB: (2) Marecic, Smelley
TE: (4) Watson, Cameron, Moore, Gronkowski
OL: (8) Thomas, Pinkston, Mack, Lauvao, Schwartz, Greco, Miller, TBD
WR: (6) Little, Gordon, Benjamin, Massaquoi, Cribbs, Norwood
P: (1) Hodges
K: (1) Dawson
LS: (1) Yount
DL: (9) Sheard, Winn, Hughes, Rubin, Rucker, Stevens, Benard, Cameron, Parker
LB: (6) JMJ, Jackson, Maiava, Fort, Robertson, Jacobs
DB: (9) Brown, Ward, Hagg, Haden, Skrine, Patterson, Wade, Sims, Dockery
I left Fujita and Taylor off the roster as they will almost certainly start the season on a reserve list. Paxson has been hurt, and his status is uncertain. If he is able to go at the start of the season, then he bumps someone off the roster.
I think that we keep 6 LB for now. We might bump to 7 when Fujita returns from suspension.
Heckert had always liked DBs, and I think that Shurmur shares that philosophy. I think that we keep 9. Ventrone does not make the final roster as we have too much talent for him to be a special teams only player.
I believe that McCoy will be traded only because I think that the Browns seen him and Wallace as fairly even. I think that they want to keep Lewis. Since McCoy would probably bring more in a trade, I think that he goes.If they cannot find a buyer for McCoy, then I think that they keep him over Wallace.
I think that we keep 3 RBs, and Shurmur kept 2 FB/HB types when he was in St Louis.
I believe that we will keep 4 TEs in addition to the swing players. If Watson needs phased out next year due to age, we could have a full accompaniment of TEs already on the roster.
The 3 specialists are self explanatory.
I like the top 7 OL I listed, and believe that they will make the team. Cousins is working on playing himself off the team as the pre-season goes by. However, I think that his experience gives him the leg up right now.This is really where I see the Browns looking for help in final cuts.
No real surprises at WR. The team loves Norwood, and I think that he almost has to stay for now. Massaquoi and Little are the starters. Benjamin and Gordon are working their ways into the offense. Cribbs is our Pro Bowl returner, and a decent receiver. I like Cooper, but I just don't see a spot for him. Maybe he makes the practice squad.
I can see Cooper making the practice squad, as I mentioned above. I think that Acho might have a shot as well. I think that Bademosi could find a spot, along with maybe a guy like Bert Reed, and then OL and LB possibilities.
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OK .... here is my list just before game #3 .......
QB: (3) Weeden, Wallace, Lewis
RB: (3) Richardson, Hardesty, Jackson
FB: (1) Smelley
TE: (4) Watson, Cameron, Smith, Moore
OL: (8) Thomas, Pinkston, Mack, Lauvao, Schwartz, Greco, Miller, TBD
WR: (6) Little, Gordon, Benjamin, Massaquoi, Cribbs, Norwood
P: (1) Hodges
K: (1) Dawson
LS: (1) Yount
DL: (9) Sheard, Winn, Hughes, Rubin, Rucker, Stevens, Benard, Cameron, Parker
LB: (6) JMJ, Jackson, Maiava, Fort, Robertson, Acho
DB: (10) Brown, Ward, Hagg, Haden, Skrine, Patterson, Wade, Sims, Bademosi, E. Davis
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I chose Gronkowski over Smith because Gronkowski is a blocker like Smith is, only younger.
From everything I have read, Acho hasn't shown anything in camp thus far. He might get the nod over another player based on having been drafted, but I could easily see him not making the team.
Sims has really shown a nose for the football, both in games and in practices. That's important for a backup DB. I don't see that either Bademosi or Davis have shown enough to knock players I see as more valuable, and more productive thus far, off the roster. Dockery really showed a lot last year, and hasn't shown as much this year. He could be on the bubble, but I don't see what Davis has shown to knock him off the roster.
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You obviously keep Gronkowski... because he went to Maryland. 
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From everything I have read, Acho hasn't shown anything in camp thus far. He might get the nod over another player based on having been drafted, but I could easily see him not making the team.
I have him kind of by default. Jacobs has been abysmal in both preseason games, but I couldn't find a 6th LB I liked. Might as well go with the draft pick.
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I don't see that either Bademosi or Davis have shown enough to knock players I see as more valuable, and more productive thus far, off the roster. Dockery really showed a lot last year, and hasn't shown as much this year. He could be on the bubble, but I don't see what Davis has shown to knock him off the roster.
Bademosi I thought we'd keep for the first few weeks of the season since we have a touchy CB situation (with Patterson nursing injury and Haden facing suspension.) He's fast and big and we don't have anyone that meets that criteria. He also is a hitter as he is a former safety. Dockery has never seemed very physical to me, and doesn't look as good as he has in the past to my eyes.
Davis I had in there as a fourth safety. He played corner well at ECU (good coverage skills), has a couple PDs in preseason, and is a good tackler. We have to have a fourth safety with Ward's injury history and the Browns have been lining Davis up there all camp. IIRC, Hagg missed some time last year, too.
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Watching Dockery this preseason reminds me of Eric Wright during his slump. Kind of the same look out there on the field. Going by what I've seen in the games he shouldn't make the team.
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QB: (3) Weeden, Wallace, Lewis
RB: (3) Richardson, Hardesty, Jackson
FB: (2) Marecic, Smelley
TE: (4) Watson, Cameron, Moore, Gronkowski
OL: (8) Thomas, Pinkston, Mack, Lauvao, Schwartz, Greco, Miller, TBD
WR: (6) Little, Gordon, Benjamin, Massaquoi, Cribbs, Norwood
P: (1) Hodges
K: (1) Dawson
LS: (1) Yount
DL: (9) Sheard, Winn, Hughes, Rubin, Rucker, Stevens, Benard, Cameron, Parker
LB: (6) JMJ, Jackson, Maiava, Fort, Robertson, Jacobs
DB: (9) Brown, Ward, Hagg, Haden, Skrine, Patterson, Wade, Sims, Dockery
Where's Colt McCoy
It looks like it a pretty good guess other then that.
Most everyone seems to be counting out Ventrone.
He makes covering kicks and punts look like child's play.
I could see him getting the nod over Dockery..
Keeping only 8 OL will bite you in the rear. They will keep (9) over (9) DL (that number is actually 9 if they keep (8) and you consider Taylor later on in the season.
Jarrod Shaw has been getting reps with the 2nd team at LG and also at OC with the 3rd team and I think that he will make the team as a backup OG/OC.
I think that Gronk gets cut and we try and put him on the PS (assuming he is still eligible). I think that the biggest single reason we kept (4) TE's last year was , because Cameron was basically red shirted.
Someone on that DL is not going to make the final cut. My heart goes with keeping Benard, but then we would be left with only one backup rotating DT.
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Why do the Hatfields keep saying that???
1. If the browns feel they are equal, then why is colt named starter last year and has been consistently ahead of him in reps and depth chart?
2. If you feel they are equal then stop trying to sell the idea that colt is so horrible and then say he has highest trade value. That's dbl talk.
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Why do people insist on using childish names?
McCoy was seen as the starter last year. He is no longer seen as the starter. He is in the same position that Wallace was in last year, which is a backup QB. None of us know how the Browns truly see any of the backup QBs. However, it is logical that McCoy might be worth more in a trade because he is younger and cheaper. It makes sense that the Browns would try to showcase him during the pre-season if they wanted to trade him for value. Given Shurmur's comments about Lewis, who did a great job despite not having many reps at all in training camp, it seems like they see him as a potential primary backup. When you add it all up, they have one too many QBs, and the most likely to be traded for value is McCoy. I do not believe that anyone will trade for a guy like Wallace, who is more of a "WCO Only" QB.
That is why I feel that McCoy is the more likely to be traded. Now, as I also have said, if the Browns are unable to trade either McCoy or Wallace, then I believe that they would keep McCoy and Lewis, and release Wallace. I think that youth and contract would win out in that case. However, I also do believe that the Browns will trade McCoy if they get an offer. because they want value for one of the QBs, and I do not believe that they see a huge difference between McCoy and Wallace as a backup.
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There is a new Sheriff in Town and by the end of the season you will see major changes ( for the good ) in the organization .. Might as well just sit back and enjoy ( as much as possible ) the season and some of the young talent .. Wouldn't loose any sleep over Colt / Wallace or Weeden as far as that gos ..
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I'm starting to think the following "surprise" cuts/trades are in the works:
Watson
Moore
B Jackson
U Young
Fujita (Wishful thinking)
Dockery (Not much of a surprise)
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j/c.... I wonder how many guesses at the final 53 will be invalidated by the cut to 70
Browns is the Browns
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Watson
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B Jackson
U Young
Fujita (Wishful thinking)
Dockery (Not much of a surprise)
Not sure what is up with Watson right now. He missed most of camp, has a pracitce then sitting back out again. It is more than just being cautious.
Moore has been outstanding since recovering from the early hammy. He still has the hands and now he appears to have added blocking. Unless another injury happens, he is about as big of a lock as you can get.
Jackson does not excite me at all. I think he is majorly on the bubble and would probably be off if not for Obi's ankle.
Young sucked last year and has yet to do anything in camp, hell he lost his starting gig to Hagg the first week of mini camp. He is gone.
Watching this linebacker corps last week without Fujita's slow ass dragging it down was a blessing. Robertson and JMJ wowed. Put DQ in the middle and that group has the potential to be one of the best coverage backer units in the league and they all tackle well is just a bonus. Maiva and Fujita really have disappointed in comparison.
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Just a general thought, or a few. ( I can't get to see this board as often lately.)
Someone use facts, . to convince me that Jordan Cameron deserves a roster spot on this team. ( My first impression is he doesn't.)
Real and productive football players need to make this roster and people like Usama Young are real and productive.
Young has been a force during games in the pass rush, when he tandem rushes with a linebacker and forces a fullback to choose one to block.
If the Browns are going to get good again, they are going to have to understand who the real talented players and the tuff productive players are.
You see a guy, you say, this guy is a football player, he's been a football player since he first arrived and he's growing in experience and his future looks like he's going to be a good player to have, ( and one to make plays) in the future.
So that description, Players like Schaefering, and Paxon stay, while Brian Sanford? Not so much.
Players like Carlton Mitchell and Rod Windsor? They have yet to show much.
There are alot of players that are really good on this team and they are going to be really better if the team can get them to Gel together.
Just think of the Defensive ends, There's a quantity that's not often seen.
Not every draft pick can make the team every year. Not if you are taking 11 players each draft. You have to let some of the guys stick around and have a chance to mature in their games.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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McCoy was seen as the starter last year. He is no longer seen as the starter. He is in the same position that Wallace was in last year, which is a backup QB. None of us know how the Browns truly see any of the backup QBs. However, it is logical that McCoy might be worth more in a trade because he is younger and cheaper. It makes sense that the Browns would try to showcase him during the pre-season if they wanted to trade him for value. Given Shurmur's comments about Lewis, who did a great job despite not having many reps at all in training camp, it seems like they see him as a potential primary backup. When you add it all up, they have one too many QBs, and the most likely to be traded for value is McCoy. I do not believe that anyone will trade for a guy like Wallace, who is more of a "WCO Only" QB.
That is why I feel that McCoy is the more likely to be traded. Now, as I also have said, if the Browns are unable to trade either McCoy or Wallace, then I believe that they would keep McCoy and Lewis, and release Wallace. I think that youth and contract would win out in that case. However, I also do believe that the Browns will trade McCoy if they get an offer. because they want value for one of the QBs, and I do not believe that they see a huge difference between McCoy and Wallace as a backup.
It's not the right move in my opinion.
It's about leverage, At this time, being the start of the year, the value for either is a late round 5-7th pick. If you trade Wallace for that Now, you get that pick.
At a later time, being mid season after a starter on some other team gets injured ... or even after this season is done in next years off season, the value of Wallace is diminished, while the value of McCoy is improved.
I think then you could get what I've said McCoy's value was all along, 3 third rounders. ( What is 3, 3rd rounders anyway? It's like on a scale, it can mean in actuallity a 2nd and a 4th, or something like Browns get a late 1st for McCoy and another player, like a questionable Db. ) or it can mean the Browns didn't quite get value like they get a 5th rounder and a backup aging defensive end.
McCoy is a Quarterback, and if you don't get somewhere around 3 3rd rounders for him, you didn't get value.
Wallace's trade value is going downhill and snowballing, everyday you don't trade him you'll be able to trade him for less. So the only reason to keep Wallace is if you intend to use him on the Browns.
If you trade McCoy now, and keep Wallace you lose value in the future.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Young has been a force during games in the pass rush, when he tandem rushes with a linebacker and forces a fullback to choose one to block.
If you're a free safety, and your best attribute is to be a pass rusher, that is bad, mm'kay.
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I think that Davis is a plus prospect and will end up on the PS this year.
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Well since Mike Adams left, Usama Young is probably equal to any safety and most of the starting cover corners on the team, excluding Haden.
With Patterson, Sheldon Brown, Young, and Hagg they'll have to work together interchangeable.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Currently on the 70 man roster:
DB: (13) Bademosi, Brown, Dockery, Gipson, Haden, Hagg, Patterson, Sims, Skrine, Ventrone, Wade, Ward, Young
DL: (14) Parker, Rucker, Green, Owusu, Paxson, Rubin, Sanford, Schaefering, Sheard, Sephens, Cameron, Winn, Hughes, Tripp
FB: (2) Marecic, Smelley
K: (1) Dawson
LB: (8) Fort, Fujita, Jacobs, Jackson, Johnson, Maiava, Robertson, Spears
LS: (1) Yount
OL: (13) Cousins, Alford, Daniels, Gerhart, Greco, Lauvao, Mack, Miller, Pinkston, Schwartz, Shaw, Shugart, Thomas
P: (1) Hodges
QB: (4) Lewis, McCoy, Wallace, Weeden
RB: (5) Hardesty, Jackson, Richardson, Ogbonnaya, Thomas
TE: (5) Cameron, Gronkowski, Moore, Smith, Watson
WR: (8) Benjamin, Cooper, Cribbs, Gordon, Little, Massaquoi, Norwood, Windsor
That puts us at 75. Between now and the next cutdown, 22 more have to go.
I see our "safe" roster as:
That would give us a "safe" roster of:
DB: (8) Brown, Haden, Hagg, Patterson, Sims, Skrine, Wade, Ward
DL: (8) Parker, Rucker, Paxson, Rubin, Sheard, Sephens, Winn, Hughes
FB: (1) Marecic
K: (1) Dawson
LB: (5) Fort, Jackson, Johnson, Maiava, Robertson
LS: (1) Yount
OL: (7) Greco, Lauvao, Mack, Miller, Pinkston, Schwartz, Thomas
P: (1) Hodges
QB: (2) Lewis, Weeden
RB: (3) Hardesty, Jackson, Richardson
TE: (3) Cameron, Moore, Watson
WR: (6) Benjamin, Cribbs, Gordon, Little, Massaquoi, Norwood
My guesses for those seriously on the bubble are:
DB: (5) Bademosi, Dockery, Gipson, Ventrone, Young
DL: (6) Cameron, Green, Owusu, Sanford, Schaefering, Tripp
FB: (1) Smelley
LB: (3) Jacobs, Spears (Fujita to Reserve-Suspended list)
OL: (6) Alford, Cousins, Daniels, Gerhart, Shugart, Shaw
QB: (2) McCoy, Wallace (only because I do not believe that both will be here come opening day, with the tie going to McCoy staying, if one cannot be traded)
RB: (2) Ogbonnaya, Thomas
TE: (2) Smith, Gronkowski
WR: (2) Windsor, Cooper
By my count, that's 29 players trying to squeeze into 7 (or maybe fewer) spots, There always seems to be a player or 2 added on th final cutdown out of the clear blue sky to bolster a weak position. (as the team did by claiming Owusu on this round)
So, in reality, the 29 bubble players listed above are probably trying to fit into 7 roster spots. My "Most likely to survive" list includes: DB Bademosi, DLCameron, QB McCoy, TE Gronkowski, WR Cooper, and OL Cousins. (Unfortunately) Depending on whether or not Richardson is able to go in week 1, we could see RB Ogbonnaya make it. Another guy who could easily make the final roster is DB Young, because of his experience.
Those are my revised guesses following week 3 of the pre-season.
In our final game of last year, just for reference, and with injuries and such, we carried the following ......... DB: 9, DL: 9, FB: 2, LB: 6, OL: 9, QB: 3, RB: 3, TE: 3, WR, 6, K: 1, P: 1, LS: 1
Watson ended the year on IR, so only 3 TE, where we had carried 4 throughout much of the year. . Marecic had a concussion, thus we added a 2nd FB. Pashos was hurt, but on the 53 man roster.
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Did you accidentally switch Smelly and Marecic?
What about Marecic's play so far has made him Safe, and Smelly's on "the bubble"?
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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Because I have heard from several reporters that cover the Browns that they really, really like Marecic. He is a core special teams player as well as the starting FB. From what they have said, I believe that he is absolutely safe.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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I wouldn't put Marecic or Moore on the "safe" list myself.
I don't know who they're going to keep, but we will keep one more safety whether it be Young, Gipson, or Ventrone. My guess is Young (see Shurmur's comments about injured veterans).
I think Bademosi has probably done enough on special teams to get brought along to the roster, especially considering our precarious DB situation.
The thought of bringing Jacobs or Spears onto the roster makes me sad. Wouldn't be surprised one bit if we pick up a LB cut from another team... especially a 4-3 vet.
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I think that Moore made himself safe based on the last game. He caught a couple of passes and was effective blocking.
I stated the reason I put Marecic as Safe above.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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