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Banner to become Browns top executive next month
Joe Banner, longtime president of the Philadelphia Eagles and a figure keenly responsible for helping them construct a new stadium and reverse their fortunes on the field, will officially join the Cleveland Browns by late October, according to a source familiar with the transition plans of new Browns owner Jimmy Haslam.Banner has been working with Haslam since before his first discussion with Randy Lerner to purchase the team, the source said, and will be the top executive in the organization, beneath only Haslam.
The vote to approve Haslam's purchase of the team will be voted on during the NFL's annual fall meeting in October, and Banner will then assume his new role shortly thereafter. Current team president Mike Holmgren is expected to reach a settlement with the new group at some point to end his tenure there, while the source indicated that Haslam and Banner will take their time evaluating coaches and front office staff, and that major, immediate changes are unlikely beyond Holmgren's ouster. Haslam has been careful not make any moves until after the purchase become official.
The former minority owner of the Steelers is very highly regarded in league circles, and the transfer of ownership will be unanimously approved by the owners, league sources believe.
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No surprise here. Just haven't seen it discussed in much detail around here.
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Mike Holmgren is expected to reach a settlement with the new group at some point to end his tenure
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Idk i'm not a fann. I think we are on the right track... I really do
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Well if we only replace Holmgren it wouldn't affect much. But usually when you have a new owner and president they want their own guys.
I just hope we stay with the 4-3 defense we have. Seems like we actually have something there.
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I agree...what exactly has Holmgren done? Keep heckert and coaching staff this year. We have a very experienced staff and some good coaches on it. I'm not sold on Shurmur as head coach yet.
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The most important thing is that we keep changing things as much as possible.
Stability is just another word for stagnation.
Browns is the Browns
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I just hope the new group is smart enough to relieve Shurmer of his offensive paycalling duties and let Childress start making those calls.
Run up the middle on first and ten is almost as predictable as the sun rising in the east.
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Idk i'm not a fann. I think we are on the right track... I really do
Same here. I expected it but not this year for sure. Should be if nothing else an interesting off-season.Lets hope its not a devestating one.
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The most important thing is that we keep changing things as much as possible.
Stability is just another word for stagnation.
What's worse, stability with the wrong guys or changing all the time? I don't know the answer.
What blows my mind the most is how many times we have blown it up (Expansion [Palmer], Butch Davis, Savage/Romeo, Mangini/His Ego, Holmgren/Heckert/Shurmur) and we haven't got it right one time. Insane.
Maybe the new owner is the guy who will finally give us stability and in order to do that he has to fire everyone...again.
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Should be if nothing else an interesting off-season.
Love that some are already thinking about the off-season after week one of the regular season.
Thank you Cleveland Browns!
(You are right by the way. We will not lack thing to discuss.)
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Wow, how times have changed. Remember how excited everyone was when Holmgren came aboard?
I really wish there was a limit on the number of times this organization could push the reset button.
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Wow, how times have changed. Remember how excited everyone was when Holmgren came aboard?
I really wish there was a limit on the number of times this organization could push the reset button.
Sometimes, this organization reminds me of a toddler that has just discovered how a light switch works.
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Just losing Holmgren isn't pushing the reset button.
Pretty sure it's been said already, but if *cough*when* Shurmur is gone, I would love to see the top brass tell the new coach that Jauron is staying . . .
And I'm all about keeping Heckert, but wouldn't cry if he got the boot, too . . .
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"Chip Kelly, you can come here and run your crazy offense, but Dick Jauron is staying."
Sounds good to me!
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I would. Did you see that defense yesterday? Heck was responsible for all but two of those players. He did pick Marecic, though....
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. . . and Hardesty.  Hey, first thing I said is I'm all for keeping him.
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i was about to say the same thing. how about UDFA Robertson and Fort?!?! What a find those two were (at this point  )
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What's worse, stability with the wrong guys or changing all the time? I don't know the answer.
how do you know if you have the wrong guys after 2 years?
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No surprise there. It will be interesting to see what Heckert does (assuming he stays) without the Walrus looking over this shoulder. I think I read that Banner isn't really a football ops kind of guy so Tom should be able to run things without Holmgren's interference. I kinda like that prospect.  I think Holmgren is a good guy and a very good NFL coach. However, I think he's proven that he's not a particularly adept NFL executive (both here and Seattle). We'll see...
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Can anyone here say the Chin is in!!!!!!!
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Just losing Holmgren isn't pushing the reset button.
Pretty sure it's been said already, but if *cough*when* Shurmur is gone, I would love to see the top brass tell the new coach that Jauron is staying . . .
And I'm all about keeping Heckert, but wouldn't cry if he got the boot, too . . .
The only way to do that is to make DJ the head coach, which of course is a complete possibility. Other then that he may walk the same way Ryan did.
If you need 3 years to be a winner you got here 2 years to early. Get it done Browns.
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I think it's' wrong to announce this before he's even voted on as the new owner. I know it's probably a formality but I just think it's smarter to shut up till the deal is done.
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I think it's' wrong to announce this before he's even voted on as the new owner. I know it's probably a formality but I just think it's smarter to shut up till the deal is done.
Nobody announced anything.. this is all according to a "source".... Granted they are probably right but it's still not Haslem saying it.
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Uh, this was said to be "coming from a source", not an announcement by Haslaam.
More in the rumor category than news actually. It goes on to say that Halaam himself has been very quiet in regards to his plans.
This same rumor was being floated about when he had his first press confrence and he refused to comment on it.
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Nobody announced anything.. this is all according to a "source".... Granted they are probably right but it's still not Haslem saying it.
Yeah I suppose you are right about that.
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Haslam cannot say it until he is approved. So you won't get it from the horses mouth.
Holmgren and Shurmur can leave. Heckert...I have respect for him, but like it or not, he is responsible for the offense just as much as the defense. Now by October, Weeden could be throwing well, Richardson could look like the stud I expect and Gordon could be looking like a future #1 and all of this becomes moot. But right now, for what he has done, I would be okay either way.
But I will say this: JH needs to make this pick about the future. He's got to find experienced guys, guys with talent, guys that mesh well and guys that he will see here for many years. No quick fix, no buddy system. The organization has had incompetent management from the top down for years, so Haslam's first hire better be damn good. Joe Banner is a good start, but he isn't much of a football guy. What Banner does have is high quality connections, respectability, and experience.
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What Banner does have is high quality connections, respectability, and experience.
That's a start. Respectability is something I've been waiting for out of this organization for a long time. 
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What Banner does have is high quality connections, respectability, and experience.
That's a start. Respectability is something I've been waiting for out of this organization for a long time.
You can replace the name Banner with Holmgren and the same would hold true.
This fanbase has become the epitome of terrible. Complaining about blowing it up every two years, then complaining about sucking after not giving anyone enough time.
Let's get rid of Heckert because he isn't perfect ... because he drafted Hardesty and Marecic. GMAFB
Sometimes I think this fanbase deserves every bit of misery it gets. And it gets worse and worse every year.
There is a reason we are a laughing stock.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Agreed. I don't want to see this organization blown up. Though I'm not a big fan of Holmgren as I believe he Trumped Heckert's draft with the Weeden and Mccoy picks.
Two of which could have been used to fill other holes on this team.
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New owner, new guys.
And while Holmgren brought that, he didn't have any experience in upper management. He had football connections, but he didn't know how to properly structure an NFL team.
Either way, if we are going down a bad path, what is the point in changing it? Continuity for Continuity sake doesn't work. Just ask the Indians how that plan is going.
We are the laughing stock of the NFL because we stink. At least people can see the organization trying to win, they just couldn't hire the right people. Let's hope the guy signing the checks this time around will have a little better time identifying managers rather than the part time owner we were cursed with for years.
you had a good run Hank.
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Holmgren and Shurmur can leave. Heckert...I have respect for him, but like it or not, he is responsible for the offense just as much as the defense. Now by October, Weeden could be throwing well, Richardson could look like the stud I expect and Gordon could be looking like a future #1 and all of this becomes moot. But right now, for what he has done, I would be okay either way.
As with all rookie classes, there will be hits and misses. For all of our sakes I hope that at least the first three picks are hits. But much like you have stated, we won't really know how these players are going to pan out until late in the season. Too many rookies starting at the skilled positions for anyone to realisticly expect things to start clicking on all cylinders early this season.
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But I will say this: JH needs to make this pick about the future. He's got to find experienced guys, guys with talent, guys that mesh well and guys that he will see here for many years. No quick fix, no buddy system. The organization has had incompetent management from the top down for years, so Haslam's first hire better be damn good. Joe Banner is a good start, but he isn't much of a football guy. What Banner does have is high quality connections, respectability, and experience.
From everything I've been able to find out about Banner I think your opinion is spot on here. I agree with everything you just said. But my question would be, what connections does Banner actually know, has worked with and can trust other than the people in Philly?
I understand what you are saying about "the buddies", but isn't that the only people these guys know well enough to trust?
I'm not advocating it by any means. However I do know that it would be hard to put your faith in people as far as being in charge that you haven't worked with or know very well.
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Kinda what makes us special! LOL
I had stated before and will do so again, I think Shurmur is on the hotseat regardless. Heckert worked with Banner so he may be safe if there is a cleaning.
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Agreed. I don't want to see this organization blown up. Though I'm not a big fan of Holmgren as I believe he Trumped Heckert's draft with the Weeden and Mccoy picks
You know, I hear this same old line over and over. But I've never seen any real evidence to support any of this. I guess if you want to make Heckert look better it's a good way to go about it.
But can anyone show anything to support this or is it just pure speculation and conjecture? So far I must say the latter of the two.....
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On the Weeden pick? No, I don't think that there is anything out there to support it.
On the McCoy pick, I think there was plenty alluding to this fact in post-draft interviews. While I don't believe that it was ever said outright, when you heard Holmgren speak of what went down at the time in the "War Room", there was enough there to support this view. So, knowing that it is quite likely true of McCoy, by default, makes it quite believable that it would be true of Weeden as well.
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Agreed. I don't want to see this organization blown up. Though I'm not a big fan of Holmgren as I believe he Trumped Heckert's draft with the Weeden and Mccoy picks
You know, I hear this same old line over and over. But I've never seen any real evidence to support any of this. I guess if you want to make Heckert look better it's a good way to go about it.
But can anyone show anything to support this or is it just pure speculation and conjecture? So far I must say the latter of the two.....
Holmgren openly said that he pulled rank and made the call on McCoy.
Never heard anything in regard to Weeden, though.
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Pit, I have no hard evidence to support that. But Holmgren was the supposed QB genius. Which I thought was a bunch of crap to begin with.
I can't tell you how disappointed I was with the Weeden pick this last April and am not jumping ship as I'm not a sky-is-falling person and by no means claim to know more than the experts. But I really think Heckert would have picked someone other than Weeden with the 2nd first round pick as he always seemed to go BPA. And I think, he honestly didn't think Weeden was THAT good but felt he was Holmgren pick. JMHO.
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Wow, how times have changed. Remember how excited everyone was when Holmgren came aboard?
I'll admit to being very excited when Holmgren came. He was a guy with real NFL credibility coming to run the organization. I tried to ignore the little things gnawing at me. How he was stripped of GM duties in Seattle... that aside from Hasselbeck who he was familiar with already, his QB finding track record was abysmal... when person after person came out saying that Holmgren's WCO was outdated and predictable... how he would go on Seattle radio to talk but have poor communication locally... etc. Now, I won't shed a tear when he leaves. He's an amazing coach. He's not an executive.
At least Banner is an executive with a solid track record and Haslam seems like a "do what it takes" owner. Much different than having an absentee owner and an executive who had to learn on the fly and who still meddles in the decisions of the people he put in charge.
Yes, it's a new regime but Heckert aside (who we might end up keeping anyway), I can do without the current group. Let's see what the new guys can do... I'd be surprised if we end up worse than our record under Holmgren and unfortunately for him and Shurmur, W/L are how people get judged.
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