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http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2012/09/11...1K79DA.facebookCLEVELAND (92.3 The Fan) – It appears that Jimmy Haslam III will have a little more time to spend on the Cleveland Browns. Haslam is stepping down as CEO of Pilot Flying J and will be replaced by PepsiCo Inc. President John Compton. Compton’s departure from PepsiCo was announced Tuesday by the company. “I have deep and personal ties to Tennessee, and my family’s plan all along has been to return to Tennessee at some point,” Compton said in a statement released by PepsiCo. “It isn’t often that the opportunity arises to run one of America’s largest private companies, and this new opportunity was a once in a lifetime chance to do so. This is something I just had to do.” Pilot Flying J is based in Knoxville, Tenn., and operates a chain of truck stops in the United States and Canada that generates more than $30 billion in revenue. Haslam has served as CEO of Pilot Flying J since 1994 and will become chairman of Pilot Flying J and Maxum Petroleum the company said. His father, Jim Haslam, who founded the company in 1958, was given the title of founder and chairman emeritus. Haslam agreed to purchase the Browns from Randy Lerner and the Lerner Trust for $1 billion on Aug. 9 and was introduced in Cleveland the next day. Haslam will reportedly acquire a 70 percent controlling interest in the Browns while Lerner retains 30 percent of the team for 4 years following the closing of the sale. It is believed that Lerner is retaining a minority stake in the team while he pays off existing debts, including to former executives and coaches. NFL owners are expected to approve the sale of the Browns to Haslam Oct. 16-17 in Chicago. Since the sale was announced and Haslam was introduced, he has been very visible around the team and busy meeting with fellow NFL owners to learn the business of football. The move by Haslam, who said that he plans to spend time in Tennessee as well as Cleveland, will likely free him up to become more intimately involved with the Browns.
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This man is committed to turning Cleveland into a winner. Thank God Lerner sold the majority stake to someone whose passion is football...Lerner can get back across the pond and focus on his passion.
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I'm gonna reserve judgment until we see if he's gonna be like Al Davis or Dan Snyder...
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I'm gonna reserve judgment until we see if he's gonna be like Al Davis or Dan Snyder...
He can be like Jerry Jones all he wants if it means we're ganna win multiple Super Bowls.
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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This is big news. Seems like he is ready to focus all his time and energy on the Browns. Didn't he say in his introductory press conference that he was going to remain the CEO? (I answered my own question: Haslam said he and his wife, Dee, will buy a home in Cleveland and split time between Northeast Ohio and Tennessee. He’ll still serve as the CEO of Pilot Flying J. “I think you’ll find we’re pretty transparent open people,” Haslam said. “Our main home will be in Knoxville. Dee is leaving as soon as the press conference is over to go look at homes here in Cleveland. We’ll split our time between Knoxville and Cleveland. I’m still going to be CEO of Pilot Flying J. It’s a big company and I spend a pretty good amount of time running that. We’ll take whatever time necessary in Cleveland to do two things, one to bring a winner back here and number two, to become part of the Cleveland community.” Link) I wonder what has changed since then.
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I wonder what has changed since then.
He watched the game on Sunday. 
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I liked this part :
"It is believed that Lerner is retaining a minority stake in the team while he pays off existing debts, including to former executives and coaches."
Man.. the money that was wasted.
Davis,Crennel,Savage,Mangini and all their staff that got paid from this team and the choices some of them made.. Makes me sick.
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I'm pretty sure his soccer club, Aston Villa, is in debt as well.
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Jimmy Haslam said the following when word came that he was buying 70% of the Browns...in an "little publicized" interview with Peter King.
Peter King>MONDAY MORNING QB - TUESDAY
sitting down with Haslam
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Jimmy Haslam has the right idea on running the Browns. I spoke to Haslam for 30 minutes Sunday and was impressed. Three things I liked:
1. He knows what he doesn't know. I counted four times in our conversation that he said some version of, "I just don't know the answer to that yet,'' or, "I might know better in two months. I just don't know now." He's a CEO of a truck stop company with more than 500 locations in the United States and Canada, but he's smart enough to know he's about to enter a business in which smart men get their heads handed to them in competition every year, and no one's a genius.
2. He was schooled in, and took valuable lessons from, one of the best football laboratories in the league -- Pittsburgh's. As a 12 percent owner of the Steelers for the last three seasons, he's seen the benefit of the Steeler way. "One thing I took from the Steelers,'' he said, "is if you've got a great leader, GM and coach -- which they do -- you've filled the three most important boxes, and you're off to a great start.'' Add the quarterback, and he's right. The solid, consistent competence of the Rooney family, general manager Kevin Colbert and coach Mike Tomlin give the Steelers a chance every year.
3. He's going to be much more involved day-to-day with the Browns than Randy Lerner was, from the sound of things. He'll buy a home in Cleveland and be around the team at least one day a week during the season, while continuing to run his business in Tennessee. Even though his presence guarantees nothing, Haslam wants to sit in the stands at a game or two, and he wants to go into the community to thank the fans for being so loyal.
"It's very important to thank your customers for their loyalty,'' he said. "In my business, I go to the stores unannounced fairly often to talk to my employees. It's important to assess your business often, and to ask the people out in the field for ideas. I ask, 'What are we doing wrong?' Ninety-five percent of our new ideas come from our employees."
Football's a different business; the fans in the Dawg Pound can't tell him who to draft. But his idea about contact with the people who have supported the team for so long is laudable.
One thing Haslam has judged -- critically -- very early is the Browns' coaching merry-go-round. "They've averaged a new coach once every 2.8 years [since the franchise returned to Cleveland in 1999],'' Haslam told me, "and that's just not a good recipe.'' Do the math: Excluding interim coach Terry Robiskie in relief of Butch Davis in 2004, Cleveland's had five head coach in the 14 seasons between 1999 and 2012 -- 2.8 seasons per coach. "One thing I learned from watching the Steelers is the importance of consistency in coaching, and how much it sets you back when you're always making a change. When you change coaches, it can be a three- or four-year deal to get back.''
Haslam won't talk about his plans with any employee until his ownership bid is approved -- which from all indications is imminent. But he'll find out soon enough that finding a quarterback is the biggest predictor of future success. And everyone in the organization's going to be a lot smarter if Brandon Weeden can play.
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1. Jimmy Haslam knows what he does not know...OK, Randy Lerner said the same thing and finally hired someone to handle the football side of the operations when he hired Holmgren, and with Heckert, the three agreed that rebuilding the team via the draft was the best course of action.
2. Haslam, learned from the best in football...
...as a minority owner of the Steelers for "3 yrs", learned how to build a football team...so he says.
Serious question...Does Haslam really understand how and when the Steelers turned their franchise around?
3. Haslam is going to be a more involved owner...
...Really...according to this article, Haslam will be in Cleveland 1 day a week. That means game day...hate to tell Jimmy this but Lerner is here at least 1 day a week and probably more now that he lives in Cleveland. So, bottom line, Haslam will be here less than Lerner, if Peter King is accurate in his reporting.
4. Haslam said..."They've averaged a new coach once every 2.8 years [since the franchise returned to Cleveland in 1999],'' ...
...Jimmy, Browns fans learned this one long before you thought about buying the Browns. Constant change is the enemy of the Browns.
Haslam said..."One thing I learned from watching the Steelers is the importance of consistency in coaching, and how much it sets you back when you're always making a change. When you change coaches, it can be a three- or four-year deal to get back.''...
....again Jimmy, Browns fans have learned this lesson the hard way, and we didn't have to learn it from the Steelers...we have lived it.
...also, Jimmy, it's not just the changes at head coach that sets a franchise back 3 or 4 yrs.
It's the changes in the assistant coaching staff...the changes in the front office...the changes in the scouting department...just to name a few areas where change can hurt the teams progress.
Jimmy Haslam is "talking" like he gets it, but I have the feeling he will be no different than the last owner. Haslam is going to come in, and hire his buddies and they will do what Browns fans have seen so many times, make changes that hurt, not help the Browns build a winner.
The 5 yr rebuilding process is just over half way complete and now our new truck stop owner is "either" going to get aboard and help complete the rebuilding process...OR, he is going to destroy the 5 yr rebuilding process.
The Browns started a 5 yr rebuilding program in 2010 and we now have the 3rd draft class in place. I hope Jimmy realizes just where this rebuild process is and I hope he has the intelligence and fortitude to completes it.
Bottom line...Jimmy Haslam is about to do what he just identified as some of the reasons for the franchises lack of success...that is hypocrisy at it's best.
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So far, not much other than being high profile. Until it is all finalized, we know less than he does about his operation. We can speculate and that is all. Hardly a grand interview. I hope he does well by us, but I expect a couple really poor bumps at first. Winning forgives everything; losing forgives nothing. So I suggest winning. 
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We'll see... New ownership USUALLY portends change of some sort. It's just the way it goes. In the Browns' case, if we remain on a losing glide path at the end of this season with little tangible improvement, I would expect bigger changes than just Holmgren's anticipated departure.
Once his team is in place, however, if he continues the FO/coaching carousel we've been on since our reincarnation, THEN I think it would be fair to start questioning the comments he made shortly after the sale was announced. Until that time comes, though, I think such criticism is unwarranted and a bit unfair. Let's wait to see what actually happens (for a change) before jumping all over the man.
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...Really...according to this article, Haslam will be in Cleveland 1 day a week. That means game day...hate to tell Jimmy this but Lerner is here at least 1 day a week and probably more now that he lives in Cleveland. So, bottom line, Haslam will be here less than Lerner, if Peter King is accurate in his reporting.
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"He'll buy a home in Cleveland and be around the team at least one day a week during the season..."
Which I took as 1 day during the week (practice) he will be in to see and watch the team, then one would assume he will be there on game day as well, being they put it with the "home in Cleveland" comment, otherwise 8 games are not in Cleveland so the "home" point would be irrelevant.
And the term "at least", indicates what we all know, that he has another business he must also attend to, and is currently very intuned to as far as interaction with his employee's. All signs he will be around and get to know the players, the staf and the organization very well.
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except now that we know his "other" business is no longer a big responsibility for him, I'd assume he's changed his mind over the past few weeks.
He stepped down from Flying J yesterday, meaning he has realized the Browns need his full attention.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Once his team is in place, however, if he continues the FO/coaching carousel we've been on since our reincarnation, THEN I think it would be fair to start questioning the comments he made shortly after the sale was announced. Until that time comes, though, I think such criticism is unwarranted and a bit unfair. Let's wait to see what actually happens (for a change) before jumping all over the man.
lifer...this is the problem...the front office changes have already started if what we read is true, that Banner is going to replace Holmgren.
So don't give me this stuff, that my criticism of Haslam is unfair !
I have had this story for some time now and not posted it, because I thought it would be wrong to call Haslam "a hypocrite". I wanted to wait to see if Haslam would follow his own advice..Haslam is on record, saying the following...
.."They've averaged a new coach once every 2.8 years [since the franchise returned to Cleveland in 1999],'' Haslam told me, "and that's just not a good recipe.''
... "One thing I learned from watching the Steelers is the importance of consistency in coaching, and how much it sets you back when you're always making a change. When you change coaches, it can be a three- or four-year deal to get back.''
I'm pointing out that in the case of the Browns, we are in the middle of a rebuilding program, just over 50% completed, with the foundation of the defense drafted in 2010 and 2011 and the foundation for the offense drafted this year.
This is a critical time in the rebuilding process and I read this morning that Haslam has hired Joe Banner to replace Holmgren? Obviously the leak is ok with Haslam, because there are no denials.
The changes Haslam said would set the franchise back 3 to 4 yrs, have already started under Jimmy Haslam's leadership...and he is not even the official owner yet.
Any idea what news like this does to a franchise?...the front office, the coaching staff, the players...
If Holmgren is replaced by freaking "penny pincher" Joe Banner, who was in charge of negotiating player contracts...NOT PERSONNEL...what do you believe is going to happen once Haslam does take over?
Haslam is going to prove himself to be a hypocrite, based on his own comments to Peter King.
As a life long Browns fan who knows what the constant change has done to this franchise since 1999...I know Jimmy Haslam was correct when he sited "change" as an enemy of the Browns...
...now I'm about to watch, yet again, someone who likes to talk, but he can't even heed his own words of wisdom.
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Lets see how it plays out once the ownership change is official, before we form that conclusion or another.
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Overthinking it mac.
damn...no, just thinking...not following !
You may not believe Haslam is going to make a hypocrite out of himself based on his own words?...I do.
I seriously doubt that Haslam even knows about the Steelers history and when they finally changed the direction of their franchise.
I'm afraid Haslam is going to be what he is...a truck stop owner.
If he is hiring Joe "freaking" Banner to replace Holmgren...heaven help us all !
Here we are, just half way through a rebuilding process and the guy who is going to take over the rebuilding project, is a freaking economics major, who was in charge of negotiating player contracts in Philly and got fired by his best friend because Andy Reid made the owner make a choice...him or Banner.
Hiring Banner to replace Holmgren is sending shockwaves through the entire franchise...that I can guarantee everyone...a penny pincher to finish the rebuilding project...yea, that should work well.
Haslam's first hire might be his worst...
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damn...no, just thinking...not following !
You may not believe Haslam is going to make a hypocrite out of himself based on his own words?...I do.
I seriously doubt that Haslam even knows about the Steelers history and when they finally changed the direction of their franchise.
I'm afraid Haslam is going to be what he is...a truck stop owner.
If he is hiring Joe "freaking" Banner to replace Holmgren...heaven help us all !
Here we are, just half way through a rebuilding process and the guy who is going to take over the rebuilding project, is a freaking economics major, who was in charge of negotiating player contracts in Philly and got fired by his best friend because Andy Reid made the owner make a choice...him or Banner.
Hiring Banner to replace Holmgren is sending shockwaves through the entire franchise...that I can guarantee everyone...a penny pincher to finish the rebuilding project...yea, that should work well.
Haslam's first hire might be his worst...
Oh I really don't know if he'll be a hypocrite or not.
As for if he knows the history,, believe me, this is a man that runs a 30 bill business. The first thing you do when you join a company if your smart, is learn the history. Haslam strikes me as being damn smart.
As for holmgren, as someone else pointed to me, the Banner thing is rumor. There have been no official announcements made by the Browns, Lerner, Holmgren, Banner or haslam. just a bunch of speculation.
Might Holmgren be gone,, hey,, maybe. will it be the end of the world.. well, I won't like it, but like I said, if that's what the new owner wants and it ends up working, I'm good to go with it.
You say that Haslams first hire may be his worst,, but you failed to mention it might be his best.
for what its worth, speculation is running rampant but the parties involved aren't really speaking.
For instance, you bring up that he's only going to spend 1 day a week in Cleveland but as someone else SPECULATED, that could mean one day during the week and then game day, Then we hear he's stepped down as CEO of Pilot which should free him up to even spend more time on the Browns.
THe article you are posting was dated August 7.. the article about him stepping down as CEO was dated yesterday.
your article is already outdated, circumstances have changed since your article.
I can, based on this recent article, speculate that he's intending to spend a great deal more time here than in knoxville.
So now, what does that do to your thinking.
could he become a "Rooney" type owner or a "Snyder" type owner? Not sure myself. either is possible.
But yeah, I do think you are over thinking it based on an article over a month old. he's not even been confirmed as owner yet.
I'm actually not at all concerned.. I was initially because I felt and still do that this regime is professional, makes decent decisions overall and can win. (sundays offensive performance aside because I expected that. I just knew they would struggle, just didn't think it would be quite that badly)
But in the end, I don't really care who the coach is, who the GM or President is.. I wanna winner.. if Haslam brings one home to me,, I'm good.
they'll be plenty of time to pick on him afterward..LOL
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I wouldn't consider it hypocritical for him to clean house when he gets here.
Firing the new group set in place after two or three years could be, though.
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Lets see how it plays out once the ownership change is official, before we form that conclusion or another.
i agree with you, but you have to admit that stepping down as CEO (though still chairman of the board) means that the Browns just became his #1 responsibility.
that is a pretty hefty move.
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If Holmgren is replaced by freaking "penny pincher" Joe Banner, who was in charge of negotiating player contracts...NOT PERSONNEL...what do you believe is going to happen once Haslam does take over?
That Banner is going to run the business of the Cleveland Browns and have a player personnel staff that makes player decisions?
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One of the biggest mistakes Holmgren made since taking the job was giving Mangini another year. He was hired to execute his vision and put that vision on hold because he didn't want to be a "hypocrite" and fire a coach after he had preached about giving coaches time. Guess what? We're worse off today and a year behind because he was afraid to be a "hypocrite".
In truth, there's nothing hypocritical about it. When there's a change in leadership at any level, the leader's first task must be to form his organization how he sees fit. If that means gutting the front office and coaching staff and building it his way, that is what I WANT to happen, as much as it might suck to take another step back. The last thing I want is for Haslam to show mercy and keep people around that he really doesn't see in his long-term vision, only to pull the trigger later on. It's a waste of time and energy.
Now... if he starts gunning his staffs down Lerner-style after he brings them in, then I have problems. As is though, it needs to happen if the guys we have aren't the guys Haslam wants.
Honestly, right now I'm just happy we have an owner who is making arrangements that will let him spend more time with the team instead of making arrangements to be overseas and out of the football operations as much as humanly possible.
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The Browns started a 5 yr rebuilding program in 2010 and we now have the 3rd draft class in place. I hope Jimmy realizes just where this rebuild process is and I hope he has the intelligence and fortitude to completes it.
Bottom line...Jimmy Haslam is about to do what he just identified as some of the reasons for the franchises lack of success...that is hypocrisy at it's best.
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We tried to tell you the "five year plan" was a thing that walked hand-in-hand down the yellow-brick road with the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny, but you had your head stuck back there in the 80's.
Holmgren made mistake after mistake and now he's being ousted. There never was going to be a five-year plan after how he started things off and then started doing these crazy reaches in the draft.
Money in the bank.
The funny part about this goes back to the conversation DC and I had with you. Haslam never...NEVER...said he wasn't going to rebuild the FO and coaching staff when he talked about acknowledging how a turnstyle at the coaching level meant failure.
YOU chose to interpret his comments that way. That's a Mac-problem, not a Haslam problem.
All he did was acknowledge what every idiot football fan who can count to ten knows, which is that if you're rotating coaches every few years it means the coaches and front office suck. End of story.
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Now let me tell you what his comments DON'T mean, because you're, again, not getting it...
You have no idea whether or not Haslam intends to build through the draft, yet your calling him a hypocrite. He never said he would keep Holmgren and Co. That's your problem for not understanding him, and thus he cannot be a hypocrite. Now if you decide to say that you think he's an idiot for not keeping Holmgren, that's an entirely different thing, but a hypocrite he would NOT be.
Gotta get your facts right, Mac.
I'm gonna say it one more time just in the slimmest of hopes that it gets through your ears and into your brain:
Jimmy Haslam NEVER...I repeat...NEVER...said he would keep the coaches. YOU wrongly interpreted what he said to fit what you WISHED would happen.
What Jimmy Haslam DID say was that changing coaches every few years reflected the fact that your team sucked. All he did was draw a correlation between losing and coaches coming and going. He did NOT indicate that keeping coaches just for the sake of keeping coaches was what he intended to do.
That's your problem. Not his. The sooner you understand that, the sooner you can start forming opinions based on fact, not the fantasy you've created in your head.
Haslam cannot be a hypocrite by going against something he did NOT say. It's a factual impossibility.
If you can show me where he said he would keep Holmgren and Shurmur, then you can call him a liar and a hypocrite. Until then, what you're doing is something akin to slander.
As for my opinion, Heckert has a proven track record of success. He should stay. Jauron is doing a damned fine job of trying to make a respectable unit out of inferior talent. Childress knows the WCO as well as any active coach in the league, but he can't do much with the "talent" on offense here. Shurmur? As I've said, not even Lombardi could coax 7 wins out of this team. It's harder to judge him but it doesn't look good at the moment.
So what about Holmgren? He's failed, purely and simply. We can attempt to gloss over and rationalize all we wish, but there is no excuse for a team to be in the 3rd year of a President's reign to be in our position. That's a fact. We can talk about how much "talent" we have on this team until the cows come home, but we don't have a wealth of "talent." All we have is a wealth of promises, and there are no guarantees about that.
Sorry, Mac, but IMHO Haslam is nothing close to a hypocrite. In fact, I see just the opposite. He sees failure for what it is and isn't shy about throwing out the trash.
Good for Jimmy Haslam.
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We're going to have a new head coach. He'll be young enough to be here 10 years minimum. If he's indeed modeling Pitt. start looking at young, high profile guys out there (unemployed or DC OC guys) or very promising college coaches.
I dont think Shurmer stands a chance. Maybe Heckert but not Shurmer.
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I think that Heckert and Shurmur are here for the rest of this year, at a minimum.
If the team shows progress throughout the year, and wins more games as the year goes along, then they have a chance to keep their jobs.
Banner is from the Eagles line, and so are Heckert and Shurmur. I think that could bode well for them, if they can produce decent results.
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I think that Heckert and Shurmur are here for the rest of this year, at a minimum.
If the team shows progress throughout the year, and wins more games as the year goes along, then they have a chance to keep their jobs.
Banner is from the Eagles line, and so are Heckert and Shurmur. I think that could bode well for them, if they can produce decent results.
I can see Heckert staying but that is completely dependent on how good that prior relationship was. Just because I work with a guy doesn't mean that I like him. Shurmur's job is tied to results on the field from the offense since he is so intimately involved with that part of the team.
Anything can happen at this point. It's too early to tell who stays and who goes.
One thing I like is having an owner that seemingly desires to be invloved and producer a winner. I don't think I've ever felt that way with Lerner.
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All he did was acknowledge what every idiot football fan who can count to ten knows, which is that if you're rotating coaches every few years it means the coaches suck. End of story.
I can sorta agree with your premise, but I think you are taking that wrong. Here's what he said from above...
"One thing I learned from watching the Steelers is the importance of consistency in coaching, and how much it sets you back when you're always making a change. When you change coaches, it can be a three- or four-year deal to get back.''
You are implying that the team has sucked because our coaches have sucked. While it could very well be true that some of our coaches have sucked, it's much more likely that given time...the 'consistency' that he talked about, that we would have started winning.
These guys that get these jobs are the best of the best. While some of them might be 'promoted to their level of incompetence' it's just as likely that they didn't get the time to implement their system either.
You need a GM that finds a guy who drafts well.
You need a coach that's on the same page as the GM.
You need both of those guys to work together to build a team.
And finally...you need time to coach up the players in the system, and weed out the guys that aren't cutting it.
Then, and only then do you start to see a team take shape.
Consistency is the key. I'm not advocating time for the sake of time. Or saying that a coach that doesn't measure up shouldn't be replaced. I'm simply saying that we will never see results with this constant knee jerk replacement of front offices.
We finally have a FO on the same page. In that Holmgren succeeded. We have a solid guy drafting. We have a young coach. That's the true wild-card...but the sad truth is, who the heck was going to come here and hop on the carousel, with the talent we had? Nobody of note i'll wager.
I hope to God he leaves it alone. If he don't, and he blows it all up, I hope he leaves it alone then. Let the team grow together. This crap is real old.
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I agree.. I don't see a point in making a move now or in the near future.
To all the people that want to start over with the firing of Holmgren and Shurmer...
What's YOUR brilliant move ? Who's the can't miss head coach that would have us looking like a contender after the same amount of time and conditions the current guys have had ?
I want names so I can gain some insight into your wisdom...
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I see Heckert and Jauron being safe... they rest??? pfft who cares.
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That laid it out more in-depth than I did. It's much bigger than just keeping coaches for the sake of continuity. You covered it the way I should have, especially since I should have taken the time to make sure the difference between what Mac believed Haslam said and what he really said was clear and concise. I've edited my post with the couple of words to affect my intent.
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This is big news. Seems like he is ready to focus all his time and energy on the Browns.
Didn't he say in his introductory press conference that he was going to remain the CEO?
(I answered my own question: Haslam said he and his wife, Dee, will buy a home in Cleveland and split time between Northeast Ohio and Tennessee. He’ll still serve as the CEO of Pilot Flying J.
“I think you’ll find we’re pretty transparent open people,” Haslam said. “Our main home will be in Knoxville. Dee is leaving as soon as the press conference is over to go look at homes here in Cleveland. We’ll split our time between Knoxville and Cleveland. I’m still going to be CEO of Pilot Flying J. It’s a big company and I spend a pretty good amount of time running that. We’ll take whatever time necessary in Cleveland to do two things, one to bring a winner back here and number two, to become part of the Cleveland community.” Link)
I wonder what has changed since then.
I think that his original intention was to remain as CEO of Pilot / Flying J but that events have made it apparent that he will have to pay attention to matters in his recent $1 billion investment in an NFL franchise. That's a rather large purchase that cannot be left to incompetent underlings like Holmgren.
It appears to me that this move puts 100% certainty that the Holmgren reign of terror in Berea is ending. It may also mean that Heckert and Shurmur are gone as well. I think that a shake-up in the front office is imminent, maybe as soon as the Haslam's ownership is official. He may already have told Holmgren & Co. that they will be fired as soon as his ownership is official.
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new ownership that wants to be involved = putting his people in place = Holmgren's a goner (and I'll bet most of the people at that level like Haskell).
likely many more people as well, but Banner should already know if he trusts some of the individuals in place as he has worked with them before.
I just hope that the youthful foundation that Heckert/Holmgren have built is worth building onto regardless of who does the further building.
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As for the final part of you statement, I think that Jauron will probably be left in place with the defense (at least), and he may be asked to be the interim head coach.
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It makes no sense to keep people if you don't think they are right for the job. Lerner has proven that he has no clue what he is doing when hiring sports people (football and soccer). If I were the new owner I wouldn't want to trust Lerner's track record.
Lerner took control of the Browns in 2002, at that point Butch Davis was already head coach. Since Davis there has been Romeo, Mangini, and Holmgren (who hired Shurmur). All three were/are disasters.
Lerner took control of Aston Villa in 2006. Since then they have had three different managers.
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As for the final part of you statement, I think that Jauron will probably be left in place with the defense (at least), and he may be asked to be the interim head coach.
i'd think he leaves the staff in place through the end of the season unless things are really falling apart. he can make his big move then.
now, I expect Holmgren's ouster to be announced early and possibly Heckerts (if he wants to replace him). those are more removed from the actual football in-season and he needs to get a head-start on preparing for the off-season if he can.
I like our defensive staff, but if Haslam/Banner decide to clean-house they may not stop on the offensive side of the ball.
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It is rare for a GM to get the boot in the middle of the season. Mostly because they are hard to replace. No one wants to leave their team out in the cold mid-season.
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