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Why would you put a player in the position where he feels most comfortable? That doesn't make any sense.

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Why would you put a player in the position where he feels most comfortable? That doesn't make any sense.

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Before you know it, people will be wanting the OC to start calling plays

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Before you know it?

We moved up in the draft to the #3 position to get TRich and he had 14 carries last night compared to 52 pass attempts.

I wanted Childress to do the playcalling from day one.

But that's just me I guess.

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I don't have time to do the research tonight but to my eyes Weeden and our offense is far more effective out of the Shotgun than under Center.

I'll find the stats somewhere but you can just tell that Weeden is much more comfortable accepting the snap from the shotgun, scanning the field and firing. We look like an effective NFL team with teams on their heels out of this set.

If we stay with WCO101 the rest of the year we're going to be on life support all season.

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Perhaps it should be used more, but he worked the pocket well last night. What I saw, (and it's JMHO) is that he is growing into an effective pocket passer.

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I agree he is learning to step up in the pocket under pressure and Im not going to look up the stats but Weeden now has 2 300yd games in 4 games. Did Colt have 2 the whole time he started?

Ive really been impressed with how far Weeden has come in only 4 games. That 96 yd drive was impressive as heck. The drops were a killer (again) but this time I think Weeden kept his poise and didnt panic even after the pick 6.

Lets hope he continues to improve.

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Nice post, and I'll say at least you owned up to it with the way you signed off.

I will say, though, and this isn't necessarily directed at you, is that I find it odd how all of sudden Browns nation is now starting to get behind Weeden ... this board, other boards I visit, national media, after last night's game.

Is it because Mayock was effusive with his praise of Weeden?

Is it because it was a nationally televised game and everyone's buddy is telling them that Weeden isn't as bad as they thought?

I'm curious about this because he's played pretty much the same way since Game 2. And I thought Game 2 was his best game by far, not Game 4.

I think Weeden should send Mr. Mayock a nice gift for getting people off of his back.

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To Whom is may concern,

I'm not directing this at anyone, but I think the whole "Colt did/Colt coulda" stuff should just be left behind at this point.

Weeden is the here & now as well as the future. I think that this is abundantly clear at this point, and I think that it is even more important considering how early in the process that this is clear.

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I too feel it's time to put the comparisons behind us.

Nice post!

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Nice post, and I'll say at least you owned up to it with the way you signed off.

I will say, though, and this isn't necessarily directed at you, is that I find it odd how all of sudden Browns nation is now starting to get behind Weeden ... this board, other boards I visit, national media, after last night's game.

Is it because Mayock was effusive with his praise of Weeden?

Is it because it was a nationally televised game and everyone's buddy is telling them that Weeden isn't as bad as they thought?

I'm curious about this because he's played pretty much the same way since Game 2. And I thought Game 2 was his best game by far, not Game 4.

I think Weeden should send Mr. Mayock a nice gift for getting people off of his back.

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Mayock had no effect on me, so Weeden can save the postage Hell, half the time I've mentally tuned out all of the announcers, anyway.
For me, it was because with last night's game I could finally answer for myself the question that both Deion and I were asking ourselves at half time.
Were the Ravens playing that bad, or were we really playing that well?

I'd finally seen enough to see that while we're still making a TON of mistakes, we're really, actually, playing that well -- at times.
As far back as pre-season, you could see potential, but pre-season is pre-season. For me, more needed to be seen, and ALL of the criticisms he's gotten have been deserved, but he's also done the one thing he needed to do - he hasn't folded, he's progressed. He still has a long way to go, but he's kinda already come a long way.

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I think that this draft is what will be seen as a real turn-around draft for the Browns.

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I think that this draft is what will be seen as a real turn-around draft for the Browns.

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I disagree with his pocket presence comment. Yes, it looked like he had a better feel for the pocket last night and he did. But he still standing flat footed in the pocket. He has the step up move, down. Now lets see if he can work on his footwork and get the side step roll out of pressure to extend the play move, down.

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I'll stop right there.

You seem to indicate that people are saying he's a funished product in regards to pocket presence. I don't feel that's what anyone was saying at all.

I'll only speak for myself here....

What I have seen is improvement. Noticable, marked improvement. This is after only "four NFL games". I can show you NFL starters today that have started multiple years you could nit puck to death in much the same manner you did above.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. He came from a system that is far different than the one he is playing in. He is most cetainly in the learning process. But let's not citique' him like he's some four year veteran and a finished product.

That will take some time as I believe you are well aware of.

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Well, there is a big wildcard coming this offseason.

Usually new regimes want their own coach and QB. So we'll see.

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I disagree with his pocket presence comment. Yes, it looked like he had a better feel for the pocket last night and he did. But he still standing flat footed in the pocket. He has the step up move, down. Now lets see if he can work on his footwork and get the side step roll out of pressure to extend the play move, down.

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I'll stop right there.

You seem to indicate that people are saying he's a funished product in regards to pocket presence. I don't feel that's what anyone was saying at all.

I'll only speak for myself here....

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And for those to say well he's only a rookie, you dont get that pass with Weeden. He is a 29 year old rookie. He shouldnt be making that many mental mistakes. We were sold on the fact because of his age and exp. he was plug n play. I know its harsh, but his learning curve is steeper than all the other rookie QB's cuz of his age.

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his age is one of the reasons i didn't want to draft him. however, that is done. it's over.

he is here, he is a rookie and let's not worry about how long we'll have him and just see if he can get to a level of QB-play that we have not seen since the 80s

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To Whom is may concern,

I'm not directing this at anyone, but I think the whole "Colt did/Colt coulda" stuff should just be left behind at this point.

Weeden is the here & now as well as the future. I think that this is abundantly clear at this point, and I think that it is even more important considering how early in the process that this is clear. He's already shown himself to be, at the very least, every bit of what Colt ever was for us, and he's also shown the potential to be quite a bit more. The fact that the same external problems that Colt faced still exist and still plague Weeden is immaterial, and when you look past those elements, I think that you can see that it is quite clear that we HAVE upgraded at QB.

Furthermore, I will go on a limb right now and say that once we get a receiving corps that is more of an asset than it is a liability, that we will see that we FINALLY have our franchise QB.


Sincerely,
-A guy that thought we were well enough off with Colt, and saw no value in drafting another QB.

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I wanted to get our Weeden or Flacco next year (mid-to-late round QB after we have good quality around him). That's why I was upset on draft day. I wanted more pieces and to stick it out with QBX in 2012 until next year. While I was ok with Colt being QBX, it really didn't matter to me (though from what I saw, Colt didn't have that killer instinct of looking downfield for big plays when needed). But, if Weeds can continue to develop, look out.

I'm still upset at the Gordon pick. If he isn't going to contribute, why bother taking him? Most any other 2nd WR would be playing already.

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I'm still upset at the Gordon pick. If he isn't going to contribute, why bother taking him? Most any other 2nd WR would be playing already.

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If, somehow, Little, Gordon, and Benjamin all pan out along with Weeden, Richardson, and Schwartz.... Heckert will have statues erected across northern Ohio in his honor.

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Is it because Mayock was effusive with his praise of Weeden?

Is it because it was a nationally televised game and everyone's buddy is telling them that Weeden isn't as bad as they thought?

I'm curious about this because he's played pretty much the same way since Game 2. And I thought Game 2 was his best game by far, not Game 4.

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Weeden played more than well enough to win, even if it was against a Rats team that was out of gas.

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I would like to think that we had a big part in that. After all it's not like we where dinking and dunking all night.

Though Trent only had some 18 totally touches, it was enough to cause some attrition to their defense attempting to tackle him.

Considering that the time frame over the past 4 games was really not much different for both teams if you factor in the fact that we had to travel.

I think that the biggest difference might be in our youth and their lack thereof.

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If, somehow, Little, Gordon, and Benjamin all pan out along with Weeden, Richardson, and Schwartz.... Heckert will have statues erected across northern Ohio in his honor.

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If any 2 of those wide receivers pan out he could at least get a bridge named after him.

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If you don't ever develop Weeden from under center, we'll never have an offense with him under center.

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gotta post you again Toad so maybe people will get it