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Link Thought this might be of use to us as fans of a team that changes its coach every other year. Quote:
The 2012 NFL season is far from over, but it's never too early to look ahead. There figures to be several head-coaching vacancies following the season, so let's get a jump on examining some potential candidates for those jobs. I've come up with a list of seven names that will likely garner serious consideration for any head-coaching opportunities that arise following the season. I've also included brief comments from sources inside the NFL about each of the seven candidates.
Chip Kelly
Age: 48
Current job: Head coach, University of Oregon
Kelly has only been a head coach for four seasons at the collegiate level, but he has already established a sterling résumé. He has captured three Pac-10/Pac-12 titles and his team is currently undefeated and ranked No. 2 in the nation. He turned down the Tampa Bay Buccaneers job last offseason, but will likely have another NFL opportunity in 2013. His up-tempo offense would need some alterations to work at the NFL level, but his organizational skills and creativity will be very attractive to NFL owners.
NFC executive: "He runs the best practices I've ever seen. I would hire him in a second if I ever had the opportunity."
Kyle Shanahan
Age: 32
Current job: Offensive coordinator, Washington Redskins
The Redskins' offense has been the talk of the 2012 NFL season. Robert Griffin III has been outstanding, but the design of the Redskins' scheme has been terrific, as well. Kyle Shanahan is getting a lot of praise around the NFL for quickly developing RG3 and designing a creative offense to fit his skills. Shanahan also was very successful during his two-year stint as the Houston Texans' offensive coordinator. In 2009, the Texans finished with the NFL's fourth-ranked offense under his leadership. Despite being only 32 years old, the son of Mike Shanahan already has coached in the NFL for nine seasons.
AFC executive: "Kyle is extremely smart and he's excellent with quarterbacks. He has all of his dad's qualities and he's going to be a great head coach."
Mike McCoy
Age: 40
Current job: Offensive coordinator, Denver Broncos
McCoy has 13 years of NFL coaching experience, including the past four as the Broncos offensive coordinator. Last season, his reputation around the NFL soared as a result of his handling of the transition from Kyle Orton to Tim Tebow. He completely overhauled his scheme in the middle of the season to accommodate Tebow's specific skill set. The Broncos finished the season with the NFL's No. 1 rushing attack. This season, he has smoothly transitioned his offense to suit Peyton Manning. They are currently ranked fourth in passing. Those rankings highlight McCoy's flexibility and willingness to adapt his scheme to his personnel.
NFC personnel executive: "I don't know Mike personally, but I've taken notice of the job he's done in Denver. He deserves a lot of credit for their success in 2011."
Perry Fewell
Age: 50
Current job: Defensive coordinator, New York Giants
Fewell has done an outstanding job with the Giants. Their run to the Super Bowl last season was largely the result of his punishing defensive unit. He has overcome several injuries to key personnel and his reputation around the league is rock solid. He has interviewed for head-coaching jobs in the past, but those teams chose to go in a different direction. Many around the NFL believe he will not be passed over again.
AFC personnel executive: "I've never heard anything negative about him. His results speak for themselves and he deserves a head-coaching opportunity."
Brad Seely
Age: 56
Current job: Special teams coordinator, San Francisco 49ers
Seely has an excellent résumé and should garner consideration for any head-coaching vacancies following the season. He has coached in the NFL for 22 seasons, 10 of which were spent as the special teams coach under Bill Belichick in New England. He has transformed the 49ers' special teams unit into the NFL's very best. The fact that Baltimore's John Harbaugh has successfully made the transition from special teams coach to head coach should help Seely's candidacy.
Former player: "Brad was very well respected in our locker room. He is very detailed and he knows how to communicate."
Ray Horton
Age: 52
Current job: Defensive coordinator, Arizona Cardinals
Horton has quickly established a strong reputation as one of the NFL's top defensive minds. Following a 10-year playing career, he's been a successful assistant coach for 18 years. He served as the secondary coach for the Steelers prior to joining the Cardinals staff as defensive coordinator. The Cardinals have one of the NFL's top defensive units and Horton's scheme is broadly praised around the league.
NFC personnel executive: "He's going to be impressive during the interview process. He's very smart and confident and he has the ability to relate to everyone."
Bill O'Brien
Age: 43
Current job: Head coach, Penn State
It is highly unlikely that O'Brien would depart Penn State after only one season on the job. He has an incredibly expensive buyout clause in his contract and that would be a major deterrent to potential NFL suitors. That being said, he is a very hot name around NFL circles. He was a successful assistant under Bill Belichick and he has shown incredible leadership in guiding the Penn State program through an extraordinarily difficult situation.
Former AFC personnel executive: "Knowing Bill, he has too much integrity to leave those kids, but he's eventually going to be a very successful NFL head coach. He's very tough and organized and he's a winner."
I'd take Chip Kelly in a second. Wouldn't even think twice.
Also, if only we had a chance to see Seely on a day-to-day basis and interview him for a vacant head coaching position.
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So we hire another learn on the job coach ? I don't know if I can stand it all over again. Coaching college players is different than the players in the NFL. Just ask Saban. The rules are different, the schemes are different, the structure is different. No matter HOW good a college coach is, he still has to learn the NFL way and it will take time while WE deal with the mistakes.
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Ray Horton... so we can have all of the "Horton hears a ....." jokes.
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It seems to have worked well for the 49ers. We'll see how Tampa Bay's season shakes out.
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True, but Harbaugh was an NFL QB for quite a few years before coaching in college. That has to count for something. I do like Schiano in TB, but I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't work out for him. Call it a "gut feeling" 
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I would go after Brad Seely or Bruce Arians if we make a change.
Both are respected coaches. Both are very experienced. Seely has been assistant head coach with his last 2 or 3 jobs, and Arians has done a nice job taking over as head coach in Indy under less than ideal circumstances.
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If I was playing GM I'd put Shanahan, McCoy, and Horton on my interview list.
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Anything is better than Holmgren's list, which seemed to be Shurmur, some minority candidate, and Shurmur.
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I suggested McCoy last time around. The impressive thing about him is that he is not locked inflexibly into a single system, trying to force square pegs into round holes. He is willing to adjust his offense to fit his talent. Not every coach (or probably even most) can do that.
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If I was playing GM I'd put Shanahan, McCoy, and Horton on my interview list.
I really like Shanahan... liked him here in Houston and think his style of offense would be good for this team....
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If we're going forward with Weeden I'm not too sure about that. Hasn't he mostly run a modified version of the WCO which features a lot more boots and roll-outs?
I like the idea of McCoy because of his adaptability, and Seely because I think he could just delegate and command respect/effort while putting a solid staff in place which wouldn't be too schematically different than what our talent is suited for.
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I think a lot of his offense had PA and bootlegs... his offense is built around having a strong running game with zone blocking that leads to the PA... I dunno, maybe I've been watching Matt Shaub too much, but I think of Kyle's offense to be similar to what the are still running under Kubiak in Houston...
dunno if he'd be a good HC, but I like him as an OC.
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I want the "right" guy for the job. I don't really care where he comes from as long as he has a full system to put in place from plays, to practices, to evaluations (that can come with the GM, etc.).
I want an identity and a team worth following.
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Anyone interested in Josh McDaniels? He seems to be a very bright guy who got too much too soon with the Broncos. Anyone in favor of at least giving him a look?
I think if the front office is in place before he gets here he could do well. He was kind of in a Mangini situation in Denver. They hired him, gave him control of the roster, then hired Elway who fired everyone.
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maybe some of the co-eds at Tufts or BU that just want to marry someone who makes good money.
but noone that is interested in a football coach.
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I want whomever gets the second most from players... because then there's always room for improvement.
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well, if you want room for improvement, then you must have loved the teams from the past 13 seasons
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Frankly I hope Seely, Kelly, McCoy, Shanahan & McDaniels are all on the Interview list. Then at least we'll know we've had the comprehensive coaching search we were promised by Holmgren but never received. I also believe any one of them could walk in tomorrow and do a better job than Shurmur has done in a year and a half. Here's a depressing thought: So much has been made about Shurmur's lack of and off season last year, maybe rightly so, maybe not. However, if you count the first four weeks as TC, next four as pre-season, he has gone 2-14 in the past 16 game.  Yeah, I think I'm good with a coaching change. 
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Perry Fewell jumps out at me....but I don't really know a thing about most of these guys.
I don't really think it matters what we do....it all comes down to the GM and how he builds the team through the draft and free agency. Talented teams with a franchise QB take coaches to the playoffs, SB and the HOF. That doesn't happen with no talent, I don't care how great of coach you are.
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Don't know but a handful of these guys.. but I want someone who:
1) Confident
2) Ability to Motivate - especially during the game
3) Doesn't take crap from other teams
4) Offensive minded
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Brad Seely is my top vote. The man may have been a special teams guru, but he knows how to coach. I truly despised the decision of letting him go to SF. I'd love love love to have him back as our HC.
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True, but Harbaugh was an NFL QB for quite a few years before coaching in college. That has to count for something. I do like Schiano in TB, but I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't work out for him. Call it a "gut feeling"
Jim Harbaugh is the coach of the 49ers that played NFL football (Chi, SD, etc).
John Harbaugh was the special teams coach for the Eagles before getting the Ravens job.
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I'm a little surprised by a name missing from that list. Mike Zimmer has been on these types of lists the last couple years. I think Pepper Johnson was a couple years ago too.
Mike Sherman is a name I'd want to hear on our list, assuming we keep WCO. I know there are some peeps on the board who like Marty Mornhinweg. Wade Phillips has one of the top defenses in Houston, I'm sure he'll be considered somehwere (not saying here). Beyond that, I'm kind of out of names that haven't already been mentioned.
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Wade Phillips has one of the top defenses in Houston, I'm sure he'll be considered somehwere (not saying here).
Wade Phillips has had 4 head coaching jobs in the NFL. He's had a few successful seasons, but he just hasn't shown he can be an effective head coach. He's an awesome coordinator.
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I suggested McCoy last time around. The impressive thing about him is that he is not locked inflexibly into a single system, trying to force square pegs into round holes. He is willing to adjust his offense to fit his talent. Not every coach (or probably even most) can do that.
I've been intrigued by McCoy for that same reason.
I'd put him, Horton, Chip Kelly and Shanahan on my list.
Kelly may have a college offense but the principles still translate to any level of football (fast paced and no huddle is the way to go, as I've been wanting to do for years). Plus, the NFL game is evolving.
I like Kyle Shanahan because he's 32 but probably older than that in "NFL years" so to speak. The job he's done with RG3 and Matt Schaub leaves him a pretty decorated resume.
Keep in mind that Haslam wants to adopt the Steeler model: hire a young head coach and keep him for 20 years. 32 might be too young, but we'll see.
I know absolutely nothing about Ray Horton except that he was with the Steelers and Haslam may be intrigued by that.
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Perry Fewell jumps out at me....but I don't really know a thing about most of these guys.
I don't really think it matters what we do....it all comes down to the GM and how he builds the team through the draft and free agency. Talented teams with a franchise QB take coaches to the playoffs, SB and the HOF. That doesn't happen with no talent, I don't care how great of coach you are.
Yes me too. he would, like many DC's, need a high-powered OC b/c most of those guys view offense as only a necessary evil. Agree with the GM thinking too.
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Arian's time out with 1 second left last week was a head scratcher. I want a head coach who is a master of game management. I am concerned a lot of former coordinators aren't that great at it. I am not sure what else a HC is responsible for compared to an OC/DC. This is probably why you often seen a HC calling plays etc. HC doesnt seem to have much to do on game day. If I had my say....I want to avoid anyone with any hint of conservative tendencies. High powered offense should be the top priority. Young is less important than being innovative and effective. Seeing as how Coughlin just won a superbowl age may not matter very much 
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If we MUST play this game and change things, then Brad Seely is the ONLY name on that list that interests me.
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I llike Seely as well. I do not think that The level of returns Cribbs had with Seely and without him is coincidental. Not sure of his qualifications beyond that position with us,, but his special teams were tight and aggressive almost all the time. Easy to dismiss the ST end of things, but it is a plus he brings in addition to HC IMO if he is chosen. Most of these guys do not lack intensity.
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Damn, I hate that we're even talking about this
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Damn, I hate that we're even talking about this
me too
I actually keep going back and forth on this coaching change thing...
I really don't want to change GM's. Maybe that is inevitable- but i think Heckert has done a good job. If we change coaches, its easier to change GM's... just clean the whole house all at once.
And i really do think we have a good coaching staff in place, except for the head guy.... but i would hate to blow up the system. It would suck to go back to the 3-4 and start trying to draft that all over again.
I'm really hoping we start putting together some wins, and maybe this discussion becomes mute.
Call me crazy- but why isn't Holmgren himself on this list. And John Gruden??
Actually, i think the guy who has this team next year is going to be in pretty good shape. This team is competitive now, just can't seem to turn that corner. This young offense will come together, some missing pieces added on defense and we should be winning...
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I dont know alot about most these guys but its nice to see a list so at least I can watch how they do etc. I was looking at other such lists and another name that I didnt see on this list is Hue Jackson.
Then I started to wonder who is going to make the HC hire? Haslam the owner, Banner the CEO or the GM whom ever that is. If Heckert stays I dont think he would be the one to do that he has I dont believe ever had to even look at hiring a Head coach so I guess that leaves us with Banner or Haslam doing it and neither of them has any experience either.
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Thats funny.. I mentioned Seely last Tuesday
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i doubt it would be just one person making that decision. If Heckert goes, the GM would need to be hired first- then Haslam, Banner and new GM make the coaching decision. OF course, we've done it backwards before- so who knows.
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My top 5 wish list is:
1. Nick Saban
2. Bill Cowher
3. Jon Gruden
4. Tony Dungy
5. Brian Billick
I'd be really happy with Mike McCoy or Kyle Shanhan also
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1. Nick Saban
2. Bill Cowher
3. Jon Gruden
4. Tony Dungy
5. Brian Billick
I'd be really happy with Mike McCoy or Kyle Shanhan also
I want nothing to do with Billick. He never impressed me at Baltimore.
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Don't care for that weasel Saban.. other than that I would be fine with the rest on that list.. They all have a LOT of experience and will hit the field running.. Not worrying about how to form a staff or reading the NFL rule book to learn whats different about the pros or how to set up a NFL camp schedule. Not sure Gruden or Cohwer are ready to get back in the game but I figure a 8 mill per year with a 3 year contract would entice them. That's assuming they don't want FULL control over the team decisions.. Don't think they ever had them before though so I doubt it's a real deal killer. I want a fired up coach on the sidelines this time and not some blank face statue like we've had here forever. This team seems to have no emotion or spirit compared to other teams I watch. They all appear to be going through the motions... I prefer Cowher over Gruden but since Toad LOVES Gruden so much I would take him as well. 
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