1. Demontre Moore 2. Jarvis Jones 3. Trade back if possible to mid 1st and select Warmack 4. Trade back if possible to mid 1st and select Eifert
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Manti Te'o! That quality of LB is a game changer. I know we could use a pass rushing specialist and a CB, but he's the Clay Matthews type that you don't pass up if he falls to you. If not him, then in a passing league to replace the aging Sheldon Brown, Dee Milliner or trade down to Johnthan Banks.
Quote: I think he will be there past 6. I will also admit that we know nothing at this point.
that is tough to say I think also he will be there and I would take him but with the weak draft one never knows I dont think I would be willing to trade down and hope if hes sitting there.
If you need 3 years to be a winner you got here 2 years to early. Get it done Browns.
JAX will be looking OLB Philly needs Oline Raiders need D line, DT in particular CAR needs Dline KC Goes Geno AZ needs QB, Wilson? SD Oline We may see Werner, Moore, Te'o, Millner or do we get crazy and go best guard Warmack to build a killer oline
It seems like we have a lot of depth at the defensive tackle position (Rubin, Taylor, Winn, Hughes). While I wouldn't be upset if we added to that group, I think we would be better off addressing other areas of the team.
I think we should probably see who our GM and coach will be - we have no clue what kind of offense or defense they will run, or what free agents they'll blow their load on.
Quote: Aggie DE to enter draft ... Texas A&M announced late Sunday that star junior DE/OLB Damontre Moore will enter the 2013 draft. Moore, who had 12.5 sacks this past season, is considered to be a top 5-10 prospect.
I want a top flight pass rusher ..... a guy who, in combination with Sheard, will put the fear of God into opposing QBs.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
That's my thinking as well, and this draft has a bunch of good ones. We haven't had a dominant pass rusher in a long time, and if we could pair him with a ball hawk type of FS then this D could really be good next year.
Against logic,the most effective armor is willful ignorance.
I know that you're kidding ... but man ... this would be the wrong year entirely to pick a QB high.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
I don't know if we'll be able to find that kind of S in the 3rd round or later ..... but maybe we can find one in free agency.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Miami (OH) senior QB Zac Dysert struggled in Saturday's game against Cincinnati, completing 25-of-49 attempts for 303 yards, two touchdowns and three interceptions. Dysert looked off all night, especially after an early interception on a checkdown pass that was taken for a touchdown. The second interception was a deflection and not Dysert's fault, but the RedHawk senior was not his normal self moving and evading pressure in the pocket. Still, we love how he reads hi-lo route concepts and his ability to throw on the run. Oct 7 - 12:06 PM http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/cfb/130917/zac-dysert
Dysert is a big armed prospect who can beat with you arms and his legs. He is the only QB in NCAA history to ever run for 100 yards and throw for 500 yards in a single game. His numbers are down a little because the talent around him is low, but he’s got a live arm and when you watch him you can see how much potential he has. Many people will knock Dysert for his level of competition but he performed exceptionally well v. Ohio State earlier this season and he has really lifted up a Redhawks team that shouldn’t be playing as well as they are.
Game to Watch: October 27th, Miami (Ohio) v. Ohio Ohio is thus far the Cinderella story of this season currently sitting at 7-0 and ranked 24th in the BCS standings. Dysert will be tested by a very good Ohio defense and could improve his stock by pulling off the upset bid. This game will be at 3:30pm and viewable on ESPN.
Dysert is listed at 6’3″ and 228 pounds. He has a sturdy build and is strong enough to take a hit. His arm strength is impressive and he can really spin the ball in the mid range. He steps into his throws and really gets his body into the deep passes.His release is fairly quick as well.
He moves well laterally in the pocket but no one will confuse him as a scrambler. Against the level of competition he plays with, he looks athletic and can throw on the run, but I think he is an in-the-box QB at the next level. He can shake off tacklers with his strength, and can be stubborn about going down, but not nearly at the level of former Miami stud QB, Ben Roethlisberger.
Dysert can be a little bit of a gunslinger. His receiver’s aren’t great at getting separation so he often takes it upon himself to really force passes into tight windows. This is good in a lot of ways as he doesn’t sit around waiting for big openings like a Sam Bradford. He will throw picks at the next level, but he will also move you down the field.
Due to level of competition, I certainly don’t think he is ready enough to be a day one contributor. He is the type of guy you take in the third round and groom. However, for a third rounder, you are getting a lot of good tools and starting experience to work with. Dysert will most likely be participating in the Senior Bowl, so that will be a good time for him to try and separate himself to try and make it into the second round, but I think he isn’t ‘ready’ enough to be taken there.
Keep an eye on Dysert this offseason to see if he can compete for a day two selection as a project QB. I think he goes in the Ryan Mallet-Nick Foles range, though I had both of those QB’s rated higher than where they were drafted.
+Excellent decision maker +Very tough +Excellent football IQ +Good throw power +Extremely accurate +Plays well despite what might be the worst supporting cast in the NCAA +Comfortable with second and third reads +Not fast, but a smart scrambler Negatives: -Unspectacular numbers against weak competition -Will take a sack -Can be careless when trying to throw passes away -Mediocre flexibility -Not a lot of escapability in the pocket -Sometimes throws a wobbly spiral, and some passes tend to sail -Not Tebow like by any means, but his release is kind of slow
Dysert has average measurables. He has average height at 6’3, solid bulk at 228lbs, and average speed with a 4.83 40 yard dash. One thing that should be understood; the key to quarterback bulk is not being so skinny that you are injury prone (Sam Bradford before the NFL), but not being so bulky that flexibility, and therefore, throw power (much of that video is applicable to football), is compromised (E.J. Manuel and Logan Thomas). Dysert has found an ideal playing weight; he is fairly durable but also not stiff. He’s only a mediocre athlete, so it’s a miracle he has more positive rushing yards than anyone on the team.
Dysert has a phenomenal football IQ. I mentioned in the third paragraph that he basically is the coach of Miami, or at least it’s offense. In terms of making pre-snap reads and audibles, Miami’s coaches have as much faith in him as Indy’s coaches had in Peyton Manning for the first decade of the millennium. He’s constantly making audibles at the line of scrimmage, and he is a great decision maker that can deceive with his eyes and find open receivers. He makes very good pre-snap reads as well. There was one play against Cincinnati, in which he flexed his football IQ. 3rd and 7 on the first drive. Miami has 5 receivers, 3 to the strong side, 2 to the weak side. Cincinnati was showing blitz. The ball was snapped. He looked to the strong side. The strong safety was in a cover 2 deep zone. That meant the blitz wasn’t coming. He stared down the slot receiver, and the middle linebacker bit on the out route, since no receivers were running down the middle. Based on the alignment pre-play, he knew that, if UC was indeed running cover 2, considering the inside linebacker bit toward the strong side, UC had 2 defenders on the weakside covering 2 receivers, to go along with a 3 man rush, 2 safeties in deep halves of the field, 3 defenders in zone coverage on the strong side, and one middle linebacker who bit on the out route. The middle of the field was wide open. He didn’t even need to look forward. He turned upfield so quickly that, to the untrained eye, it looked like a quarterback draw. He got the first down. It was a great read.
On the downside, he occasionally locks onto receivers and may even force some passes to his first read. I really gave Matt Barkley a hard time about this earlier in the year. The difference between Dysert and Barkley is that Dysert doesn’t completely collapse if his first read isn’t open. Matt Barkley falls apart, even from a mechanics standpoint, if his primary read is covered, from forcing throws to tossing up jump balls (the Robert Woods touchdown against Oregon is case and point, felt like a Hail Mary crossing route). Dysert, however, makes very accurate throws and good decisions when his first read isn’t open. He is very comfortable. His foot quickness is average but still quick enough that he can adjust his feet to other receivers if his first target isn’t open. And he makes accurate throws when his first read isn’t open. It’s pretty fun to watch.
Dysert has good throw power. He definitely could afford to put zip on his passes on a more consistent basis, but he flashes a powerful arm here and there. The inconsistency with his throw power, combined with the fact that he often throws a wobbly spiral, is probably the result of one, minor, mechanical flaw; he grips his thumb a bit too low on the football. The grip that feels most natural to most quarterbacks is one with the thumb a bit too low. It can cause wobbly passes as well as underthrown balls (underthrown as in below the target, not behind). It’s very easy to fix and most quarterbacks with the problem don’t relapse back into their old mechanics once this is pointed out to them. Regardless, Dysert has solid throw power.
Dysert has really good accuracy and mechanics. When he is under center, he has a very nice front shoulder drop at the end of his dropback, which stabilizes the shoulders and keeps passes from sailing high (could do better from the shotgun). His footwork is basically perfect, and his release, although on the slow side (stiff hips), has no major mechanical flaw. His passes are generally very accurate, although he will occasionally throw behind receivers. He is remarkably accurate while throwing on the run, and he also can make some pretty impressive passes while being pressured or even tackled.
Dysert has average escapability in the pocket. He doesn’t have the foot quickness of a Ben Roethlisberger needed to dodge pass rushers (though he isn’t terrible in this area), and his hips are too tight for him to excel at spinning and changing directions to evade tackles, but he does have the core flexibility needed to duck under defenders and an above average, though far from perfect, sense of the blitz that helps him get the ball out of his hands quickly. He also has good balance and core strength, so, if he is hit, it takes a while to bring him down, and he flashes the ability to make throws under duress. He also isn’t at all afraid of the blitz. Not perfect, but solid in this area. Ultimately, I really like Dysert. I think he has been tortured by a poor supporting cast for years but could really be successful in the NFL. He’s pretty close to the best quarterback of this draft class.
NFL Comparison: There is some Eli Manning here, but, at this point in his development, Dysert’s throw power is a bit less consistent. Grade: 93 (worthy of a top 20 pick) Projection: 84 (will be a mid second round pick)
Grab this guy with our 3rd round pick (where he is projected now, I think come draft day we would need to trade up into round 2 to get him) and pair him with Kyle Shanahan and the offense that the Redskins run and I think you have something.
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Tried to post the youtube video from the link but just got a blank space. If any of you want to post the youtube video of the ohio state game that would be appreciated.
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Quote: At this point it's not who we pick but how disappointing they will be or how long till we want them benched.
This. Whomever we draft will be a "bum" by week 10 (maybe sooner) and will be on the next list of "draft busts" associated with the next fired front office in....oh I dunno I'm feeling generous, say 2015?
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Everybody knows...at #6 we're taking whatever player Joe Banner thinks looks the best on his Youtube highlight videos.
My money is on Mike Glennon or Tyler Wilson. I think NC State and Arkansas have some pretty good visual media majors that will surely put something together that will impress good ol Joe.
Besides we need a new QB to bitch about and replace next year.
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Question, who was the last great CB in the NFL that came from Bama? I am starting to wonder if Saban maximizes their ability (which is great for him) but then guys don't get better in the NFL.
This draft is deep at OT. I can see 4 or 5 going in the top 20 easy. Mix in the depth at DE/rush Lb with the Cb's and we can drop down to mid teens and get a guy who fills a need without much drop off in talent.
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