Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,426
R
Rambo Offline OP
Dawg Talker
OP Offline
Dawg Talker
R
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,426
Cleveland Browns receiver Greg Little showing more maturity, reliability

By Tom Reed, The Plain Dealer

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Sheldon Brown required just five words to summarize the growth he and others are witnessing in Browns receiver Greg Little.

"He is becoming a pro," the 33-year-old cornerback said.

Many assume that happens the moment a player signs his first contract or cashes his first check. But for twenty-something kids fresh from college, the process can take a season or two. And, sometimes a player can be out of the NFL before he understands what it means to be a pro.

Little is demonstrating more maturity and reliability after a turbulent start to a season that drew the wrath of fans and coaches. Prodded by coach Pat Shurmur and pushed by rookie wideout Josh Gordon, the second-year North Carolina product has cut down on his dropped passes and reeled in his persona.

The result: 16 receptions for 150 yards in the past four games. He has an many touchdowns (one) as he does drops in that span -- and without a single Tweet. The engaging Little still believes he's misunderstood by fans, but such opinion is easier to accept when he's catching passes and finishing blocks.

"I think in times of adversity it shows you who you are," Little said when asked about what he's learned about himself this season. "It's easy to be cheery when everything is OK. Adversity shows who you are as a person and your character."

After catches, Little has eschewed the Usain Bolt pose -- the one that annoyed Shurmur -- even as he still marks first downs with an arm slightly extended before dropping the ball. His boycott of Twitter has stretched into a seventh week after clashing with fans over poses and celebrations in a losing effort.

Brown believes the social-media backlash might have done some good.

"I've seen a difference in him since he stopped Tweeting," Brown said. "When you do that kind of stuff, people start focusing on you more. You make small mistakes and they become magnified . . .

"(Fan reaction) probably shocked him. You are a grown-up now. This is not college."

Little said those closest to him, teammates, friends and coaches, know the type of person he is. By most accounts, Little is a likable individual, and certainly one of the Browns' most quotable players.

After catching 61 passes last season -- and dropping 14 others -- Little had hoped to improve on the first total and make bigger plays. He had just two touchdowns and averaged 11.6 yards per grab.

Through the first five weeks of this season, however, Little had 11 receptions and six drops and twice finished games without a catch.

"I was trying to do so much more than just being myself on the field; just trying to create much more than the play is designed for," said Little, who admits he was guilty of trying to run with the ball before making the catch. "Now, (it's) just take what's there and just going with it."

The emergence of Gordon as a deep-play threat and potential No. 1 receiver also is a factor. Little has four fewer catches than at this time a season ago, but what's more telling is the number of times he's been targeted (48) -- down from 68 a year ago.

Brown believes the play of Gordon, who has caught four TDs and is averaging 21.9 yards a catch, is spurring Little's recent surge.

"We have a guy like Josh Gordon who is making plays as a rookie," Brown said. "Now, the expectations for you go up."

Most don't project the converted running back as a No. 1 receiver, but Little could settle into the role as secondary target, especially with his size (6-foot-2, 220 pounds) and willingness to block.

"Yeah. I mean, you're a receiver; you get paid to catch the ball," Little said. "Blocking is very underrated. Coaches and my teammates, they really appreciate it."

Shurmur sees a player who's now more focused on the game's details and less on his next celebration. Little planned to spend the bye week training in Florida

"He's gotten away from doing some of the things that I don't care for so he's listening," Shurmur said. "He wants to be a good player, he wants to be a good pro. And I've said this, as long as they're our players we'll work with them."

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,015
O
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
O
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,015
Thanks for posting.

Might as well talk about Little. It's gonna be a long two weeks.

I don't know if I have any true rational for feeling this way, but my impression is that the further down field Little goes, the less likely he is to catch the ball. That makes me want him to be a possession (*gulp*) receiver who does his work on the shorter stuff. We've got the speed guy and the potential #1 guy. We need a good TE and a good possession receiver. It was just a few games ago where Little was being phased out because of the drops. I'm not about to sing his praises after a couple of games without drops. I just hope he can continue to develop the hands that he hasn't yet consistently shown...


***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284
Quote:

Thanks for posting.

Might as well talk about Little. It's gonna be a long two weeks.

I don't know if I have any true rational for feeling this way, but my impression is that the further down field Little goes, the less likely he is to catch the ball. That makes me want him to be a possession (*gulp*) receiver who does his work on the shorter stuff. We've got the speed guy and the potential #1 guy. We need a good TE and a good possession receiver. It was just a few games ago where Little was being phased out because of the drops. I'm not about to sing his praises after a couple of games without drops. I just hope he can continue to develop the hands that he hasn't yet consistently shown...





Nothing wrong with throwing 15 yard passes to him. He can be a YAC monster because he's physically imposing.

Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 12,065
Likes: 1
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 12,065
Likes: 1
I always assumed that's why they got him, as a former RB, you get the ball in his hands quick and let him do whats natural...


Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,284
Quote:

I always assumed that's why they got him, as a former RB, you get the ball in his hands quick and let him do whats natural...




Same, it would be stupid to have him running 50 yard bombs.

Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 12,065
Likes: 1
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 12,065
Likes: 1
Quote:

Quote:

I always assumed that's why they got him, as a former RB, you get the ball in his hands quick and let him do whats natural...




Same, it would be stupid to have him running 50 yard bombs.




Quote:

Quote:

I always assumed that's why they got him, as a former RB, you get the ball in his hands quick and let him do whats natural...




Same, it would be stupid to have him running 50 yard bombs.




I mean every once and a while you run an out and up, or a double move to keep them honest on him, and he'll probably beat a few people because of it, but he'll drop those so it won't matter :P


Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 49,987
Likes: 361
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 49,987
Likes: 361
Little is not natural when catching the ball over the top. I think that he can improve, but I watch him on deep balls where he has to completely turn his body back to the QB and jump up to catch the ball, instead of maintaining his route and letting the ball come down in front of him.

I do think that he is much more comfortable running those routes like he ran as a RB. he likes the shorter passes, where he can catch the ball in space, and use his ability to run after the catch.


Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.

John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 749
K
All Pro
Offline
All Pro
K
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 749
Quote:

Thanks for posting.

Might as well talk about Little. It's gonna be a long two weeks.

I don't know if I have any true rational for feeling this way, but my impression is that the further down field Little goes, the less likely he is to catch the ball. That makes me want him to be a possession (*gulp*) receiver who does his work on the shorter stuff. We've got the speed guy and the potential #1 guy. We need a good TE and a good possession receiver. It was just a few games ago where Little was being phased out because of the drops. I'm not about to sing his praises after a couple of games without drops. I just hope he can continue to develop the hands that he hasn't yet consistently shown...





So you want him to become Joe Jurevicius with speed, moves, and power? That's a dream worth dreaming right there. Santa, I'm looking at you buddy.


I'm grateful for Browns football.
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,015
O
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
O
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 8,015
Hey, when you're a Browns fan, there's nowhere to reach for but up!

C'mon, Santa. Stop screwin' around with the elves, put down the egg-nog, and turn Little into a reliable receiver, will ya?


***Gordon, I really didn't think you could be this stOOpid, but you exceeded my expectations. Wussy.
Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
I think he's done a really nice job even on deeper routes recently. He had a nice one deep left this past ravens game and actually had a nice one deep left in the previous ravens game. I think little was just so concerned about scoring a touchdown on every catch that he was getting ahead of himself. Last couple games you can see him catch, collect himself, then run. Hopefully once he's reprogrammed himself to focus on the catch he can speed that transition up. Remember when receivers got to play into their third year before the book is written on them? And very few of them had little's history.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,693
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,693
I really like the glimpses of greatness we've seen. He needs to nail his routes and hang onto the ball, but the kid has serious moves. Love hearing that he's maturing, he'll be good all over the field if he continues to develop as he has in the past couple of weeks.


[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

"I am undeterred and I am undaunted." --Kevin Stefanski

"Big hairy American winning machines." --Baker Mayfield

#gmstrong
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,610
Likes: 239
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,610
Likes: 239
j/c

one thing you HAVE to love about Little is that he is trying.

he is trying to the right thing by the fans
he is trying to do the right thing by the coachs
he is trying to do the right thing for his team
he is trying to improve his catching
he is trying to improve his route running

In a league with players that don't care and it's "me first" he was able to stop himself from being the next player to get Peyton Hillis syndrome.

I like this kid even more.


Blocking those who argue to argue, eliminates the argument.
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,936
B
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
B
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,936
Agreed. I've see than in both Little and Gordon. They WANT to be good at what they do. I really like the improvement we've seen in Little's game over the past 2-3 weeks and hope to see that continue. He could be a beastly possession guy.


[color:"white"]"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."

-- Mark Twain [/color]
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,234
B
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
B
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,234
Yes, Little's gotten better. I've gone from having zero faith in him catching the ball to 60/40. And we've seen flashes of what we expected to see AFTER the catch too. Could be a good # 2 some day, if he continues improving.

As for Gordon, If I were pickin' talent for this team, I'd pretend like he wasn't even here and go for a #1 in the offseason. Has he left anyone satisfied in missing out on the top of the 2nd round in the draft yet?

Quote:

Shurmur said. "He wants to be a good player, he wants to be a good pro. And I've said this, as long as they're our players we'll work with them."




Or at least as long as you're w/ the team there, Shurm.

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,850
N
Legend
Offline
Legend
N
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,850
leaving the book open on Gordon. he is lost on anything underneath, but has shown a great burst deep. he didn't do anything vs. Baltimore, but they were playing cover-2 which takes away anything deep.

let's see how he progresses as the season goes along


#gmstrong
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 11,839
Likes: 11
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 11,839
Likes: 11
Quote:

leaving the book open on Gordon. he is lost on anything underneath, but has shown a great burst deep. he didn't do anything vs. Baltimore, but they were playing cover-2 which takes away anything deep.

let's see how he progresses as the season goes along




are u talking about Gordon or Little?

b/c Little should have had a TD in that Ravens game on a right post in the corner of the end zone but Weeds didn't throw it to iim.


[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,850
N
Legend
Offline
Legend
N
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,850
i even mentioned Gordon by name. I was talking about Josh.

with Little, he's getting better at the underneath stuff, but he still seems clunky with the double-moves. he's been better catching the ball though, hope that continues.


#gmstrong
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Quote:

b/c Little should have had a TD in that Ravens game on a right post in the corner of the end zone but Weeds didn't throw it to him.




yep, but it was a deep out or a corner, not a post. Wide open.

DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Greg Little showing more maturity, reliability

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5