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Gruden, Browns deny University of Tennessee reportPosted by Michael David Smith on November 28, 2012, 8:21 AM EST The report that new Browns owner Jimmy Haslam is offering an ownership stake in the Browns to Jon Gruden if Gruden will coach Haslam’s alma mater, the University of Tennessee, has been denied by both men. Asked on Mike and Mike in the Morning if there is any truth to the report, Gruden answered, “No, there isn’t.” The Browns, meanwhile, released a statement also denying the report. “Jimmy Haslam has no involvement in the University of Tennessee head coaching search, and the report that Jon Gruden would potentially have an ownership stake in the Browns is completely erroneous,” the statement said. Gruden says his interest remains doing the job he’s doing, as ESPN’s Monday Night Football commentator. “I’m just excited about Monday Night Football,” Gruden said. “I like what I’m doing. I’m just trying to hang on to the job that I have.” Even so, the talk that Gruden could bolt for a job on a sideline is sure to continue. Report: Gruden to get Browns ownership stake in offer to coach VolsPosted by Curtis Crabtree on November 28, 2012, 1:19 AM EST Oh boy. This may be the most outlandish Jon Gruden coaching rumor yet. WREG-TV in Memphis, Tenn. reported Tuesday night that the ESPN NFL analyst has an offer on the table to become the next head coach of the University of Tennessee with an interesting twist. According to the report, Gruden would be getting an ownership stake in the Cleveland Browns as part of the deal and a decision could be made as early as Wednesday. New Browns owner Jimmy Haslam attended Tennessee and is a booster of the program. His father, Jim, played on the offensive line for the Volunteers in the early 1950s, including the 1951 National Championship team. The Browns owner also is a major Tennessee booster. The report does bring up a potential road block to this ever coming to fruition. Gruden may still be owed money from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers from his time as head coach that ended with his firing in 2008. Apparently the league is looking into the conflict of owning a part of one team while potentially still getting paid from another franchise. Here’s another possible hiccup. According to John Infante, who worked as a NCAA compliance officer at Colorado State University and ran the Bylaw Blog for the NCAA website, NCAA rules would prohibit this transaction unless the ownership stake was first gifted to the University of Tennessee. He says there is no rule prohibiting coaches being involved with pro teams but rather the issue has to do with outside compensation. This deal seems a little too ridiculous to actually come together in the end. But with SEC football, there seems to be no limit to the distance schools will go to try and put the best possible team on the field. So maybe it’s not completely out of the question after all.
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Wouldn't this be some sort of NCAA violation anyway?
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is it free if he gives the UTn tattoo parlour a signed SB shirt for the ink?
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in the SEC?
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well, maybe Gruden's dad asked for the ownership stake. that way Jon doesn't have to answer to the NCAA
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Here in nashville the Gruden to UT rumors are everywhere. Buddy in my office is convinced the announcement is made on this Friday at 230pm
One similar rumor to the one in this thread is that Haslam hires Saban, thereby getting the homerun coach he wants in cleveland and weakening alabama, and therebt making the UT job even more attractive to gruden.
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One similar rumor to the one in this thread is that Haslam hires Saban, thereby getting the homerun coach he wants in cleveland and weakening alabama, and therebt making the UT job even more attractive to gruden.
Got to love the silly season.
yes you do, though I would love for that to happen. it won't (Saban has complete control at Bama that he would never have at a respectable NFL franchise), but it would be quite the play by Haslam (for TN and the Browns). fun rumor.
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Just the mention of Haslam's name in this potential deal and the mention of him using a stake in the Browns to try to lure a coaching candidate to his college alma mater, causes me some concern.
First, just what the hell kind of priorities does Haslam have?
The Browns are not enough for Haslam to handle?
Is Haslam more concerned about the Tennessee Vols or the Cleveland Browns?
Usually stories such as this do not mention names unless there is some basis in fact behind the story.
Those who are quick to knock this story down as nothing but a fabrication...I ask this...
...Why would the NFL be checking into the "the conflict of owning part of one team while getting money from another".**
.....** the quoted portion comes from this part of the story first published by Memphis channel 3 WREG...
..."A potential hangup could be over money Gruden may be owed by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers from his stint as head coach there that ended in 2008.
The NFL is looking into the conflict of owning part of one team while getting money from another. If NFL ownership is included in Gruden’s deal, it would have to be tailored to conform with NCAA rules."
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News Channel 3 Learns of Tennessee’s New Twist To Lure Jon Gruden Posted on: 10:14 pm, November 27, 2012, by Glenn Carver, updated on: 07:45am, November 28, 2012 The following statement was sent to us by Neal Gulkis, Vice President of Media Relations for the Cleveland Browns: “Jimmy Haslam has no involvement in the University of Tennessee head coaching search, and the report that Jon Gruden would potentially have an ownership stake in the Browns is completely erroneous.” (Knoxville, TN) News Channel 3 has learned former NFL coach Jon Gruden has a contract offer in hand from the University of Tennessee and a decision could be made as early as Wednesday. Part of the offer is Gruden getting a piece of the NFL’s Cleveland Browns, who were recently bought by Jimmy Haslam III, one of UT’s biggest boosters. Haslam’s father is Jim Haslam, multi-millionaire and founder of Pilot. Jim played on Tennessee’s national championship teams in the early 1950s. A potential hangup could be over money Gruden may be owed by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers from his stint as head coach there that ended in 2008. The NFL is looking into the conflict of owning part of one team while getting money from another. If NFL ownership is included in Gruden’s deal, it would have to be tailored to conform with NCAA rules. Gruden is currently working as an NFL analyst for ESPN. He started his coaching career in 1986 as a graduate assistant at Tennessee where he met his wife, a former UT cheerleader. Gruden’s two head coaching stints in the NFL were with Oakland and Tampa Bay. He coached the Bucs to a Super Bowl win in the 2002 season. web page
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The Browns are not enough for Haslam to handle?
Look at mac trying to hide his opinion behind a question mark. 
Just kidding. I kind of agree. If I found out that Haslam was ever, for a second, thinking this was possible or heaven forbid talking about it out loud, I'd have all kinds of new concern . . .
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Just the mention of Haslam's name in this potential deal and the mention of him using a stake in the Browns to try to lure a coaching candidate to his college alma mater, causes me some concern.
First, just what the hell kind of priorities does Haslam have?
That's NOT first, First is, it's a rumor and you are already condeming Haslam.
Gees, can you please wait until he actually does something stupid before you question his priorities..
Talk about a cliff to dive off of,,, all you seem to need is a wiff of something and you go jumping all over the place..
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FYI, my sources are also reporting it was Haslam who first gave smallpox to the Native Americans. link
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Report: Jon Gruden may meet with Tennessee Volunteers AD soonPosted by Michael David Smith on November 28, 2012, 10:56 AM EST Jon Gruden’s denial isn’t ending the speculation that he could become the next head football coach at the University of Tennessee. Within a couple hours of Gruden saying that he had not been offered an ownership stake in the Cleveland Browns in exchange for coaching Tennessee, Mike Freeman ‏of CBS reported that Gruden may meet with the Tennessee Volunteers’ athletic director later this week. What Gruden specifically denied was a report that Browns owner Jimmy Haslam, a Tennessee graduate whose brother is the governor of Tennessee, had offered Gruden a piece of the Browns. Gruden didn’t pull a Nick Saban and say “I’m not going to be the coach of Tennessee,” not that anyone believes any coach anymore after Saban infamously lied about taking the Alabama job. The report about Haslam’s role in the Volunteers’ coaching search is farfetched for a number of reasons, including the fact that the NCAA wouldn’t allow a booster to give a coaching candidate part of his business, and the fact that Haslam is probably too busy considering his own football team’s future to worry about his alma mater’s next coach. But that doesn’t mean there’s no truth to the many reports that the University of Tennessee would like to lure Gruden. However, if Gruden does leave the Monday Night Football booth to return to the sideline, most indications are that it would be an NFL sideline. Gruden’s name surfacing in the college coaching carousel is likely just an appetizer before the talk of Gruden returning to the NFL heats up.
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Oh Lord, Mac, really?.......... Really???
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Just the mention of Haslam's name in this potential deal and the mention of him using a stake in the Browns to try to lure a coaching candidate to his college alma mater, causes me some concern.
Pravda mentions that Obama is a communist, does that cause you concern too?
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Even if this were true, I wouldn't care. The guy spent a billion dollars on the football team. I'm pretty sure they are a top priority.
Even if this story is 100% false, I bet he still plays somewhat into the decision for the new coach. I'm not saying he's the final say, but a guy with that kind of money, who went to school there, and donates all kinds of money and resources will have influence.
The only thing that bothers me if this thing were true, is that you keep Pat Shurmur, or you hire someone else, the rumors of Jon Gruden coming to Cleveland will continue every year unless the Browns are serious contenders. The connection is there, the stake is there, etc...
It's a non-story in my opinion, because I don't think it's allowed within the system of the NCAA, and maybe even the NFL.
The Jon Gruden stuff is dead to me anyway. I really don't see a guy who demands control coming into our situation. Think the Pat Shurmur type (as far as control)
I think a coach will have to earn his control after he takes the job. With that in mind, you can cross off all your big names. All your Jon Grudens and Bill Cowhers and even your Nick Sabans. It's just not going to happen.
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This thread has been really humerous guys, great work! 
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 i cannot believe people block you. stuff like this is comedic gold. gold, jerry, gold!
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The Obama fake birth certificate rumor had more legs than this....for some reason I didn't see you jumping on that one.
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You can bet that if Gruden somehow does end up coaching at Tenn., conspiracy theorists will now blame/point to Haslam as the reason. Even if both of them would deny it and would pass FBI lie detector tests, there will be those who wouldn't believe it!
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Note...not one person even picked up on the most important part of the whole story...
"A potential hangup could be over money Gruden may be owed by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers from his stint as head coach there that ended in 2008.
The NFL is looking into the conflict of owning part of one team while getting money from another. If NFL ownership is included in Gruden’s deal, it would have to be tailored to conform with NCAA rules."
Why is the NFL looking into whether Gruden can own part of one NFL team, while being paid by another NFL team?
Just what team do you believe the story is referring to, when they refer to Gruden owning part of another team?
I'm sorry to burst the bubble of so many who would rather shoot the messenger than consider the message...but it is obvious to me that Haslam is lying about his involvement in trying to lure Gruden to Tennessee and it sure appears that he attempted to use ownership in the Browns to get the deal done for Tennessee.
WGER has not backed off of the claims they made in their story and no admission of having their facts wrong and no retraction and I have looked such a story. Looks like WGER is standing by their story, even if the Browns are denying it. Those of you who have a problem with the story, take it up with the Memphis Channel 3, WGER station because they are either lying...or Haslam is lying.
I simply ask, if Haslam was not involved as the story says, why would the NFL have a need to check into the situation?
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Because the nfl has said this? No. They have not.some reporter says they are in a made up story. Nice try though
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Those of you who have a problem with the story, take it up with the Memphis Channel 3, WGER station because they are either lying...or Haslam is lying.
Incorrect.
Either Haslam is lying, or WGER is standing by the word of a source they believe to be credible. That is not the same as lying.
Seeing as how that story has been debunked by numerous sources, I'd say it's WGER's word against numerous others.
Not an unexpected attempt on your part to drop the noose around Haslam's neck yet again.
I've seen some witch-hunts in my day by fans, but you're taking the cake, Mac.
You flood the board with all the Haslam crap where you badly misinterpreted his statements about continuity, then essentially disappeared from the board for a month after you learned the hard truth. Now you show back up just in time to start posting stories...unsubstantiated stories...to try and paint Haslam as the bad guy yet again?
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The NFL is looking into the conflict of owning part of one team while getting money from another. If NFL ownership is included in Gruden’s deal, it would have to be tailored to conform with NCAA rules."
Why is the NFL looking into whether Gruden can own part of one NFL team, while being paid by another NFL team?
If Fox News reported it this way, you would be pointing out the words "potential" and "could be"... demanding second and third sources.. but this person, whoever it is, you seem willing to just take his word for it.
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Your agenda toward Haslem and Banner has been clear almost from day 1. If he told Carrie Underwood she looked good today you would say he was lying...
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I simply ask, if Haslam was not involved as the story says, why would the NFL have a need to check into the situation?
You are much better at asking questions than you are at answering, but I'll ask one any way. If there is any truth to this story, how is it that some no-name station in Memphis TN has been reporting on it for several days but ESPN, Fox Sports, etc don't even mention it except to show Gruden's denial? You would think by now that somebody with some national credibility would have been able to come up with a source to validate this story... if there was one. So until one surfaces or until somebody with some credibility picks up the story and validates it... I'll assume the answer to your question above is... first you prove that they actually are, then we can discuss the "why" part...
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I just wish somebody would buy this team and make it a winner already. Haslam hasn't done a damned thing since he got here and it's painfully obvious he cares more about college ball than the team he owns to the extent that he will co-opt us for the sake of that college team.
Dear NFL.. is it too much to ask for this for Christmas??
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I just wish somebody would buy this team and make it a winner already. Haslam hasn't done a damned thing since he got here and it's painfully obvious he cares more about college ball than the team he owns to the extent that he will co-opt us for the sake of that college team.
Dear NFL.. is it too much to ask for this for Christmas??
If I win the powerball twice, I'm in. Every team decision will be a poll in the K9 section. That should fix us up durn gooder.
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If you are going to call plays that way we are going to need to speed this thing up with more bandwidth to make sure the plays get in on time.
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So what you are saying is that it will be more of the same old same old?
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If you are going to call plays that way we are going to need to speed this thing up with more bandwidth to make sure the plays get in on time.
Playcalling will be done in chat.
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Pravda mentions that Obama is a communist, does that cause you concern too?
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Which same old would that be? We have started over so often . . . ?  
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