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OC of the Falcons Dirk Koeter set to interview with Browns eagles and chiefs according to NFLN they are reciting a Fox sports report.
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We gotta get this guy!
Wait...too soon?
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Aaron Kromer of New Orleans is another name floating around. link
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Thanks Mourg for starting this thread. Interesting we are talking to Koeter and the Saints OC. Both of those teams run similar schemes as we do and potentially work with many of the players we have.
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Thanks, Mourg. This should catch traffic. Could I settle for the Aints OC? willing to risk it.  
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so if you could pick between the following four, who would u be most happy with:
1) Koeter
2) Kromer
3) Kelly
4) O'Brien
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Kelly, O'Brien, Koetter, Kromer in that order.
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from that list of four, give me O'brien. My buddy plays at PSU ... players LOVE him and he knows how to successfully install discipline and an effective offensive system. He fits the scheme to his players strenghts.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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O'Brien is my top choice as well.
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Kromer would be dead last.
That man, with the help of Roger Goodell, scuttled the entire season for the Saints.
you had a good run Hank.
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I think I want O'Brien.. I think he would represent the Browns organization well.
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How did Kromer do that exactly? Did he rat them out on the bounty stuff?
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He was the incompetent moron of an interim head coach to begin the season.
you had a good run Hank.
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In his defense that was a mess I don't know if anyone could have overcome.
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Joe Vitt managed to do quite a good job.
Kromer didn't use their best running back and the defense was a grease fire under Kromer.
He wasn't even close to doing as good of a job as Bruce Arians did. He looked incompetent and over his head.
you had a good run Hank.
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I like Koetter out of the guys that have been mentioned. I think he does a great job of getting the most out of his players and working with a lot of egos.
I don't want a college coach, I dont have the patience for that kind of learning curve. I am hopeful we can keep the 4-3. I am just not a big fan of the 3-4.
More important than who is named HC is who are the coordinators and how is he filling his coaching staff. Very young team will need solid positional coaches. Fortunately with all the firings today there are a ton of quality coaches looking for work.
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He's 2nd on my list for the "experience" reason and that he doesn't mind throwing the ball..
I don't think you can go wrong w/ either one..
I say stay away from Kelly, and don't know a whole lot about Krommer.
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Can someone get Banner my resume? I'd be open for the right price.
One thing I do like is the fact they are hiring a coach, and involving them in the GM process. I'd hate to see them just hire each guy separately, with neither one having any connection to the other. At least these guys will have a connection and be working tightly together. I just have no patience....just wanna hear that press conference where we have our guy. (the RIGHT guy)
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Whoever the next HC will be, I hope it will be a Offensive minded guy, that's able to install an offense built around the players, is aggressive and unpredictable.
I just saw an interesting bit on ESPN today, since 2004, the Browns have had the lowest YPG. I remember the Bears were 2nd on that list.
Just goes to show how bad our offense has been for so long (outside of 2007).
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Can someone get Banner my resume? I'd be open for the right price.
One thing I do like is the fact they are hiring a coach, and involving them in the GM process. I'd hate to see them just hire each guy separately, with neither one having any connection to the other. At least these guys will have a connection and be working tightly together. I just have no patience....just wanna hear that press conference where we have our guy. (the RIGHT guy)
I can see the advantage of having your HC having so much power (since the gameday success is most directly impacted by the HC and players, it'd make sense that the HC has that kind of control regarding the roster).
However, as Haslam and Banner expressed several times, you have to have the RIGHT GUY for this to work. Just curious, how many times have we had the "RIGHT GUY" since 1999 (Trick question because, every hire you make is supposed to the the "right guy")
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I think I want O'Brien.. I think he would represent the Browns organization well.
Kinda speaking from memory here, but didn't O'Brien pretty much say he was staying at PSU quite a while back?
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yea.. he did say that, but given how he was duped into leaving the Patriots to come to them thinking there would be no NCAA sanctions.. you never know. He may leave if he thinks its the right situation.
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if Haslem and banner want the HC to have that kind of power they CANNOT I repeat CANNOT hire a college coach with no NFL HC experience. just a recipe for disaster.
at least if we hire a current OC they have somewhat of a knowlege of the NFL level. but still would not like him to have that power.
if we go after a gruden, cowher or someone else that has succeded at the NFL level as a head coach then yes.
of those listed I like Koeter the best. he has done a great job down in ATL.
i do not like Kromer. the short time he had control in NO he did crappy. yes i understand that key def players were missing... but come on he couldnt even lead them to a win over the chiefs at HOME.
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Lovie Smith gets four interview invitations on first day out of work Posted by Michael David Smith on December 31, 2012, 7:08 PM EST Chicago Bears v Oakland Raiders Getty Images Lovie Smith was one of seven NFL head coaches fired today. He’s also a candidate to replace four of the other six fired coaches. Smith has already been contacted by four teams about their head-coaching vacancies, ESPN reported on SportsCenter. The report did not say which of the six other teams that fired their coaches — the Chiefs, Chargers, Browns, Cardinals, Bills and Eagles — are interested in Smith. But if Smith is interested, he’ll be a very busy man over the next couple of weeks. Although Smith was fired after his team collapsed over the second half of back-to-back seasons, it’s easy to see why other teams would be interested: Smith won three division titles with the Bears, reached the Super Bowl and was the NFL’s coach of the year for the 2005 season. Some NFL teams may also be eager to interview Smith because any team that interviews Smith has satisfied the requirements of the Rooney Rule, which states that any team with a head-coaching vacancy must interview at least one minority before making a hire. Smith was also a well-regarded defensive assistant, first with the Buccaneers and then with the Rams, before becoming a head coach. So if Smith wants to work in 2013, he’ll find a job quickly. web page
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Lovie Smith was one of seven NFL head coaches fired today. He’s also a candidate to replace four of the other six fired coaches.
Smith has already been contacted by four teams about their head-coaching vacancies, ESPN reported on SportsCenter. The report did not say which of the six other teams that fired their coaches — the Chiefs, Chargers, Browns, Cardinals, Bills and Eagles — are interested in Smith. But if Smith is interested, he’ll be a very busy man over the next couple of weeks.
Although Smith was fired after his team collapsed over the second half of back-to-back seasons, it’s easy to see why other teams would be interested: Smith won three division titles with the Bears, reached the Super Bowl and was the NFL’s coach of the year for the 2005 season.
Some NFL teams may also be eager to interview Smith because any team that interviews Smith has satisfied the requirements of the Rooney Rule, which states that any team with a head-coaching vacancy must interview at least one minority before making a hire.
Smith was also a well-regarded defensive assistant, first with the Buccaneers and then with the Rams, before becoming a head coach. So if Smith wants to work in 2013, he’ll find a job quickly. web page
Rooney rule out of the way
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Change for the sake of it. The plan was just starting to come together and they have abandoned the plan.
What's the point, it is that 5 weeks ago, playoffs in 2013 seemed 50/50 believable.
With a new head coach, no way is this team going. We've seen change for change's sake, several times before. Same old song and dance.
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Ive heard that Doug Marrone is going to interview with the Browns as well...I dont have a link, but someone read it on a website so its out there.
Id like Marrone, former OC for NO under Peyton, has brought Syracuse back to where it used to be. Theyre bowl eligible every year...in addition, Ryan Nassib may come with him (hes draftable and Marrone had him for his career...maybe a Tannehill/Sherman thing...but better)
Id like to have the guy...hes done a good job everywhere
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so if you could pick between the following four, who would u be most happy with:
1) Koeter
2) Kromer
3) Kelly
4) O'Brien
Considering the power they're talking about giving to a HC?
None of the above......
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Is controlling the 53-man roster and game day actives THAT much more power? seems to me the coach should be in charge of that anyway. The HC should also be high on the totem pole when it comes to saying yay or nay to drafting a player.
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If a head coach has final say on the draft and roster, then even a (halfway decent) head coach, [ Butch Davis], gives you terrible players he might like, [ Gonzalez as a right tackle ].
And other questionable decisions, like James Jackson runningback for 3 years.
Memories.
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yea.. he did say that, but given how he was duped into leaving the Patriots to come to them thinking there would be no NCAA sanctions.. you never know. He may leave if he thinks its the right situation.
If this guys was "duped" then he is a complete moron. The whole world knew sanctions were coming.
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The people who hired him apparently convinced him it was a criminal matter that would not have "institutional" ramifications beyond possibly one year. The NCAA saw it differently. He has a legit reason to have his contract with PSU voided, IMO.
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At first blush, seems like a reasonable candidate...
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if Haslem and banner want the HC to have that kind of power they CANNOT I repeat CANNOT hire a college coach with no NFL HC experience. just a recipe for disaster.
at least if we hire a current OC they have somewhat of a knowlege of the NFL level. but still would not like him to have that power.
Oh, I agree. If your going to hire a College coach, he needs to have these two things:
1.) Is a former player in the NFL.
2.) Has been a position coach or coordinator in the NFL.
A Jim Harbaugh type is something I think Haslam is looking for, and he meets the criteria above.
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Bill O'Brien was Belichick's OC after McDaniel left for the Bronco's job. After seeing how Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennel, and Josh McDaniel did as HC though, I'm not sure that recommends him much. The general thinking, from what I've read, is that Belichick keeps such a tight rein on and maintains so much control over his coordinators that they never truly develop fully themselves, in terms of being successful HC's.
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If a head coach has final say on the draft and roster, then even a (halfway decent) head coach, [ Butch Davis], gives you terrible players he might like, [ Gonzalez as a right tackle ].
And other questionable decisions, like James Jackson runningback for 3 years.
Memories.
so if the GM decides, it makes it better? there is no difference IMO.
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Is controlling the 53-man roster and game day actives THAT much more power? seems to me the coach should be in charge of that anyway. The HC should also be high on the totem pole when it comes to saying yay or nay to drafting a player.
Well the "consensus" will determine the draft, not the HC, according to "the plan".
I don't know...... There's not a person on that list I'd put in charge of controling my dog, much less an NFL roster.
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The whole question is whether the head coach has the final word in the event of a tie, or whether the GM does.
I actually like the way Heckert's drafts seem to have worked ..... with input from the coaching staff, an attempt at consensus, with a firm board, then taking the highest rated players as each pick came around.
I would like to see that process maintained, even if the head coach breaks any ties.
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Cardinals defensive coordinator Ray Horton will also interview with the Browns, CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports.
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