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I'm going to go against the grain and I know this is a long shot, but my preference is Mike Zimmer.
He turned that defense around big time and his players would fight to the death for him. He has a leadership mentality about him (it makes up for Lewis' lack of leadership).
Plus, it would royally screw over another team in the division who is probably poised to be the division front runner next year.
I have been professing Zimmer as my #1 choice for some time now. The bandwagon is growing! Now if we can get J&J on board because everything you say in your post is spot on.
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In many ways, J&J will reap what Heckert sow and it will probably cover up their drafts for 2-3 years...but who knows, maybe they luck into decent drafts to complement Heckert's, or maybe they're more competent than we give them credit for. Either way we're back to "hoping", with Heckert there was this "comfort" and "trust" in his abilities. Even when he picked Hughes in round 3 what looked like a massive overdraft I was pretty calm and it turned out he found a decent player.
Highlighted and bolded the part that is the most important here.
Would love to see what Heckert could have done in FA with Haslam's purse strings open. Actually, would love to know the truth on FA. Was Heckert allowed? Did players just not want to come here? But now with an owner willing to spend and wanting to win and with the eye for talent Heckert had, I wonder how this year's FA could have turned out.
Of course, Banner is leading Haslam around by a leash so we'll never know.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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HC- Brad Seely, Zimmer, McCoy, Darrel Bevall
DC- Jauron, Smith, Marinelli
OC-Tom Cable, Turner, ?
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Hell yeah! We're going to get Marc Trestman! 
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I'm going to go against the grain and I know this is a long shot, but my preference is Mike Zimmer.
He turned that defense around big time and his players would fight to the death for him. He has a leadership mentality about him (it makes up for Lewis' lack of leadership).
Plus, it would royally screw over another team in the division who is probably poised to be the division front runner next year.
I have been professing Zimmer as my #1 choice for some time now. The bandwagon is growing! Now if we can get J&J on board because everything you say in your post is spot on.
I'll join along on that bandwagon. I like Zimmer. I'd have Lovie ahead of him, but Zimmer ahead of Whisenhunt (and Shanahan ahead of him too).
Also, I would not rule out Brian Schottenheimer.
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Hell yeah! We're going to get Marc Trestman!
Well, Bernie knows what he knows because of his association with him!
Guy knows his stuff. No denying that.
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Everyone should be happy that we missed out on Kelly. Haslam and Banner are incompetent so their first choice was obviously the wrong guy.
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Trestman really wouldn't be a bad pick. The guy can coach, there really isn't any question about that.
Now, if Kosar can stay sober, bring him in as a special assistant for Offense. (dedicated to working with QB's)
Keep our current Defensive staff, find an OC and keep the good from the existing staff.. then get your talent evaluator and we're ready to go.
Damn, I sure made that sound easy didn't I..LOL
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Now, if Kosar can stay sober, bring him in as a special assistant for Offense. (dedicated to working with QB's)
Hope that is a joke.
Marc Trestman is an interesting option. I don't know much about him other than he's been around forever and he has coached everywhere.
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With a combination of in-depth classroom sessions and on-field workouts, Marc has help mold some of the NFL top quarterbacks. Some of the QBs who have been trained by Trestman include:
Brandon Weeden - Oklahoma State (22nd overall in the 1st round by the Browns - 2012 NFL Draft)
Brock Osweiler - Arizona State (2nd round pick by the Broncos - 2012 NFL Draft)
Tim Tebow - Florida (25th overall in the 1st round by the Broncos - 2010 NFL Draft)
Jimmy Clausen - Notre Dame (2nd round pick by the Panthers - 2010 NFL Draft)
Jay Cutler - Vanderbilt (11th overall in the 1st round by the Broncos - 2006 NFL Draft)
Jason Campbell - Auburn (25th overall in the 1st round by the Redskins - 2005 NFL Draft)
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Damn, I sure made that sound easy didn't I..LOL
Kinda makes you wonder why we didn't just do that years ago. 
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Here's my current working list: Lovie Smith - made the Superbowl with a combo of Orton and Grossman. Since we cannot seem to find a QB, he seems to be a good fit  Seriously though, he has also shown a willingness to be open-minded about an OC. I would like to think that he'd have an exhaustive search for his OC as well to handle that side of the ball. Mike Zimmer - A gain for the Browns and a knock on the Bengals. Double Whammy. I love how his defense plays and he was sharp enough to survive multiple HC changes in Dallas (and 4-3 to 3-4 to 4-3 scheme changes - he's a smart guy). I love his fire and want him out of Cinci (would even be happy if Philly hires him to get him out of the division but would rather we have him). Kyle Shanahan - He has done alot of good things in his young career and has shown an ability to adapt to his personnel. Helped Kubiak build the foundation in Houston and is helping his dad do the same in DC. Ken Whisenhunt - I don't want to go back to the 3-4 but he might be open-minded about that? We have the OL to allow him to do what he wants throwing the ball. He does have good schemes there (though very different so there would be an adjustment period). Brian Schottenheimer - not just on the name. He has always come off as a bright guy who is a good leader. I do not think it was a coincidence that Rex lost the locker room this season (with Brian ih St.L). Also, he has seen many different styles of coaching organizations and what works well and what does not. Ugh. I'm missing someone. I'll add it when I remember
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Late comment about the coaching search... I laughed out loud seeing a few on here make comments about how they didn't want Kelly to begin with, then grew on him hearing we were interviewing him and then felt the Browns were failures for not signing him even though he was only leverging the NFL for a pay raise from Nike. Come on. Sit back, relax and just watch the "process".  
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Now, if Kosar can stay sober, bring him in as a special assistant for Offense. (dedicated to working with QB's)
Hope that is a joke.
Hell no, it's no joke.. Key to it is that Kosar has to remain sober.. Drunk he's useless.
I keep thinking of him up in the both with whoever the play by play guy was during Preseason games on WKYC here in Cleveland and how by looking at the defensive set up, what was about to happen and how he would approach it. Damned if he wasn't right.
The key to Kosar was his mind. He was just smarter than the other guys, never the most gifted athlete, just outsmarted them.
So yeah, if he's not burned up too many braincells and can stay sober, yes, I think he'd be a good tutor to Weeden or McCoy or whoever the hell is our NEXT QB of the future.
I DO NOT THINK IT WILL HAPPEN.. With or without Trestman, it's not going to happen.
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I keep thinking of him up in the both with whoever the play by play guy was during Preseason games on WKYC here in Cleveland and how by looking at the defensive set up, what was about to happen and how he would approach it. Damned if he wasn't right.
There are a lot of guys who can do that.
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DJ, it doesn't matter if they look incompitant to some. They have a "one size fits all" excuse. It's the old "shoot the messenger" menatility. We get several media reports that stream in over time. So they find a couple that aren't accurate and use that as some excuse to simply dismiss everything we hear. They claim that none of them are right, they're all a bunch of hacks and in some attempt to deny anything negative about this FO, they call it all trash. The whole "Throw the baby out with the bath water syndrome". I do agree that to a large degree it's often times hard to sift through it to know which grains of truth are imbedded in some stories, but to act like the media is in some conspiracy just to make Haslam/Banner look bad and they are simply making things up is an act of desperation. There may be a need for some to simply "grow up".  There are a lot of reports to sift through. When looking at them as a whole, it's not hard to see that Kelly was indeed their #1 target. It's not hard to see that giving Marrone two visits made him their second choice and they lost on both counts. No, it isn't their fault that Kelly decided to stay at Oregon, but it may have paid some dividends if they had done their homework a little better and made more sure of his commitment to coming to the NFL ranks before parading him out here and spending seven hours with the guy.
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I keep thinking of him up in the both with whoever the play by play guy was during Preseason games on WKYC here in Cleveland and how by looking at the defensive set up, what was about to happen and how he would approach it. Damned if he wasn't right.
There are a lot of guys who can do that.
I'm sure there are, but name me 1 that we can look at that is available and has the name recognition and credibility that Kosar has in the Cleveland area and to the Browns fans in general,.
I mean, you may not be a fan of his, but most folks remember very fondly the kosar era around here.
Yeah, he's a drunk now, yeah, he's got problems financially. But if sober and mentally aware enough, he's the guy. I just don't think he's sober or aware enough anymore. Too bad really.
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I think the fact they identified that he was wishy washy and walked away prove competence rather than incompetence!
I'm glad my FO didnt get played for long or enter into something that set us back another 3-5 years.
If one doesnt' like them say so. No need for an excuse. A fan has that right!
I'n cheering them for not biting on this one too hard!
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No, it isn't their fault that Kelly decided to stay at Oregon, but it may have paid some dividends if they had done their homework a little better and made more sure of his commitment to coming to the NFL ranks before parading him out here and spending seven hours with the guy.
Do we know that they didn't their homework? Just because Kelly interviewed and decided to remain at Oregon doesn't mean he didn't give every indication that he was ready to make the jump and then changed his mind.
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I think the fact they identified that he was wishy washy and walked away prove competence rather than incompetence!
I'm glad my FO didnt get played for long or enter into something that set us back another 3-5 years.
If one doesnt' like them say so. No need for an excuse. A fan has that right!
I'n cheering them for not biting on this one too hard!
That is certainly a very good way to look at it.. 
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