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As I was watching NFL Gameday 5 minutes ago, the Breaking News infocrawl at the bottom of the screen read:
"Coach Chip Kelly tells Eagles he will remain at Oregon, Ian Rappaport reports. Kelly interviewed with Browns, Eagles and Bills."
Just an update, since the Kelly thread went to 9 pages and lockdown....
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Chip Kelly spurns NFL, will return to Oregon Ducks, sources say - ESPN http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...cks-sources-sayOregon coach Chip Kelly has decided to turn down a chance to go to the NFL and instead will return to the Ducks, according to league sources. Kelly was intrigued with the Philadelphia Eagles' head coaching job but decided he wasn't comfortable leaving the college game. The Cleveland Browns are the only other NFL team known to have interviewed Kelly. The two sides met last week but the Browns decided to reboot their coach search after leaving Arizona late Sunday morning without landing Kelly, sources said. The Eagles are the only other NFL team known to have interviewed Kelly. Philadelphia took its coaching search committee to Denver to interview Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy on Sunday after a lengthy meeting with Kelly on Saturday night in Arizona. Kelly has built the Ducks into a national power. Oregon has gone 46-7 in the last four years and made four consecutive BCS bowl games. Kelly runs a high-octane, fast-breaking offense, and elements of his schemes are already being used by New England and Washington. Kelly may face NCAA sanctions in his return to Oregon as the school is being investigated for recruiting violations.
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Man, journalism doesn't matter anymore, does it?
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Maybe they could have added: "The Buffalo Bills are also the only other team knows to have interviewed Kelly ...." 
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Man, journalism doesn't matter anymore, does it?
Journalism has been dead for several years, now it is all story tellers and glory seekers.
As for the news, I'm glad. I didn't want Kelly, I don't want to be the experiment to see if his system will work in the NFL. And the fact he was our #1 choice it appears, makes me wonder about Banner's abilities to build this franchise.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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Dying to see who he craps on next year. 
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-s...665--ncaaf.htmlReport: Chip Kelly will remain at Oregon, a huge win for the Ducks By Frank Schwab | Dr. Saturday – 10 hours ago Email (USA Today Sports Images) Forget about why Chip Kelly will stay at Oregon for a moment. Maybe he played the NFL interest into a substantial raise funded by booster and Nike co-founder Phil Knight. Maybe he didn't get quite the concessions he wanted from pro teams. Perhaps he didn't interview too well with pro teams. Those details will start to trickle in. Here's the immediate, obvious impact: This is enormous for the Oregon football program. ESPN reported that Kelly had turned down the Philadelphia Eagles and decided to return to the Ducks, and The Oregonian confirmed that report through a UO source. It seemed it would take a miracle for Oregon to keep Kelly again. He had an offer from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers last year, and had multiple teams talk to him in the few days since the Fiesta Bowl. Oregon, aware of the possibility of Kelly leaving, had reportedly decided on a successor even before the Fiesta Bowl. [Also: Everett Golson looks to follow AJ McCarron's path] But then Oregon hit its Hail Mary. It kept its coach despite strong NFL interest. The Ducks, who have come so close to winning a national title under Kelly, are as schematically sound as any team in the nation, and its recruiting is at an elite level. Maybe that would have continued without Kelly, but Oregon doesn't have to worry about that hypothetical for the immediate future. There is the matter of Oregon's probable upcoming meeting with the NCAA's committee on infractions regarding the football program's relationship with prep adviser Will Lyles, something that seemed like it might push Kelly into the pro realm. But apparently Kelly isn't worried. After the Fiesta Bowl he was asked about the possible NCAA punishment. "We've cooperated fully with them," Kelly said. "If they want to talk to us again, we'll continue to cooperate fully. I feel confident in the situation." [Also: Legendary high school football coach steps down with 399-25 record] Kelly never said he would leave. He said he would listen. He said he would use the interviews as a fact-finding mission. It turns out, that's exactly what happened. No matter what went on behind the scenes or what made up Kelly's mind to stay, Oregon fans are unlikely to care too much. The Ducks' brilliant coach will be back. Oregon can plan on remaining a national contender as long as he sticks around. - - -
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Man, journalism doesn't matter anymore, does it?
Editing is dead. I think journalism still exists in that people want to find information and report on it... but nobody proofreads anything any more looking for these types of simple mistakes. Too many people assume that if spellcheck says it's ok, then it must be ok... For example, the two sentences were probably supposed to read that the Browns have interviewed him and the Eagles are the only other team known to have interviewed him but somehow that got mistyped and nobody ever proofread it to find that error.....
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Glad to know we were the ones who pulled the plug on that, as opposed to getting turned down. Yeah, I know it's petty.
So, he spends a long time interviewing with Cleveland. Reportedly almost reached a deal.
Then he interviews with Philly, it goes way long and his followup with Cleveland gets pushed back (or never happens?). Reportedly almost reaches a deal with them.
Then it is reported that Philly and Cleveland are both going to continue interviewing other candidates. Cleveland takes the extra step of stating Chip is no longer an option for the Browns' head coaching position.
Now he decides to stay at Oregon, and not pull a Pete Carroll by leaving before the sanctions hit his school.
Wonder if he put too much effort into playing Cleveland and Philly against each other for the sake of negotiations. And then hinting at maybe wanting to stay at Oregon as another bargaining chip.
I was lukewarm on him all along. Not really hoping he'd come here, but not as opposed as others. But I think Cleveland and Philly may have dodged bullets here.
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The NCAA seems to be so concerned with players not receiving compensation yet it appears that NIKE pretty much owns that team. Maybe it is more common than I know but it just strikes me wrong.
I will be one who is hoping that Oregon has a bad year next season.
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I will be one who is hoping that Oregon has a bad year next season.
pretty common.
Maryland recently took to Under Armour.
Oklahoma State and Boone Pickens.
plenty more examples but those (with Oregon) are the most visible ones.
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and NBC owns Notre Dame.  As far as I know, there is no limit on how much a corporation can give to a college sports program as long as none of it goes directly to the players...
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I have no hard feelings toward him. I'm happy for the people in Oregon.
Can't say I'm not disappointed though.
Who knows, maybe we dodged a bullet if this guy was swaying back and forth.
If he's that unsure about staying/leaving who's to say had he signed with us or Philly that he'd bolt at the first bit of adversity?
I still think he can coach at the NFL level. I still think that maybe some years down the line he does cross over, but for now I don't think he should consider it anymore. If he does, he shouldn't parade around all these NFL execs.
The more I think about it, maybe we should go after Arians. I know that he's not the ideal age, but he's been a very good playcaller this year, and has a great record dealing with QB's. Both things we need very much. I would be willing to guess he'd be OK staying with the 4-3 and letting that further develop.
Even then. If he can stabilize the team, maybe get them back into contention, maybe make a run, that would be healthy. As far as his age goes, I don't know how long he wants to be back in the league, but assuming he doesn't want to be coaching in his late 60's, that gives the front office time to groom someone, and if there is a coaching change, they can keep everything in place, instead of a giant overhaul. That would be an awesome sequence of events. He might actually be the right guy for the start of a new owner's era. Jimmy Haslam gets the best of both worlds. Someone to fix the current situation, all while maybe preparing for the next guy in the meantime.
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They locked down a thread to open a duplicate thread?
Dude is old news...move on.
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I would still like to hear/discuss if he interviews or signs with someone else.
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He's home in Oregon. Phil Knight and Nike sweetened his pot.
If he cries wolf next season I hope he's ignored!
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If he cries wolf next season I hope he's ignored!
People, stop with the Nike crap - it is Phil Knight, not Nike. Saying Nike would be like saying Pilot Corporation owns the Browns.
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How about this?
Because of Nike Phil Knight was able to pay Chip Kelly a lot of money and keep him in Oregon.
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By that logic, because of Pilot, Jimmy Haslam was able to but the Browns. Same thing.
It is meaningless overall, just keep reading Nike money kept him in Oregon and it just isn't true.
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Is isn't? I don't know if it is true or not. What I do know is last year he went back to Oregon after all of his assistants got raises. This year he went back to Oregon after Phil Knight made a "push" to keep him there (link).
Just to be clear, are you saying Phil Knight's money and Nike are unrelated? Or are you saying Phil Knight had nothing to do with Kelly going back to Oregon?
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I'm saying Nike and Phil Knight are two separate entities. Sure he made his billions by being the founder and running the company, but he is the one who donates to UofO, not Nike. Completely separate thing.
When I give money or time to charities or Ohio State, it is out of my pocket and is me, not my employer. He's doing the same thing.
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By that logic, because of Pilot, Jimmy Haslam was able to but the Browns. Same thing.
It is meaningless overall, just keep reading Nike money kept him in Oregon and it just isn't true.
No, it's a little different... Pilot hasn't been buying us uniforms, paying to upgrade our facilities, letting us test their experimental equipment, etc for the last decade... and if Jimmy Haslam didn't buy the Browns, somebody else would have..... if Nike/Phil Knight take their support from Oregon, there is no replacement.... heck due to a protest over Nike exploiting workers overseas, Phil Knight withdrew a $30 million donation of his own money...... there is a much greater link between Nike/Phil Knight and Oregon than there is between Pilot/Jimmy Haslam and the Browns beyond just their personal financial investment...
The 47 different Oregon football uniforms don't have Phil Knights name on them, they have a Nike Swoosh..
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I'm saying Nike and Phil Knight are two separate entities. Sure he made his billions by being the founder and running the company, but he is the one who donates to UofO, not Nike. Completely separate thing.
When I give money or time to charities or Ohio State, it is out of my pocket and is me, not my employer. He's doing the same thing.
Exactly. Such sour grapes over nothing. I heard no commitment from Kelly, I wasnt in the meetings. Talk about speculation running wild!
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Wrong 100%. Nike does not pay for those uniforms, the University of Oregon does. The university of Oregon also did all of those upgrades, etc... to their facilities, not Nike. Just because Phil Knight donates a very large sum to the university does not mean that Nike pays for it - it comes from his pocket (or his foundation's), not Nike's pockets.
The reason there's a "greater link" is because Phil went there, and was an athlete there. Regardless, his money and his donations are his, not Nike's.
Ohio State's uniforms have the swoosh, Notre Dame's have Adidas' three stripes and not Phil Knight's name or Adolph Dassler's name. Oregon has a contract with Nike for their uniforms and shoes. Just like Ohio State does, just like Notre Dame does with Adidas. Phil is not Nike, they are completely two separate, independent entities.
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So you're saying that Oregon pays Nike to be able to use their jerseys?
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Wrong 100%. Nike does not pay for those uniforms, the University of Oregon does.
Then Oregon is getting ripped off. Under Armour has a deal worth $17 million to the University of Maryland to provide all of their athletic gear... you telling me that Oregon is giving Nike all of this free advertising AND paying for the gear? I don't think so.
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Then when people protested Nike's working conditions why did Phil Knight pull his own $30 million donation? I get that the name on the checkbook is different... but if Oregon suddenly decided to go with Adidas uniforms, do you really think Phil Knight would continue to give them hundreds of millions of dollars? The two are linked whether you want to admit it or not...
And with that I will add, I don't care. Maryland has the same arrangement with UA.. the guy went there, he played football there, he has a connection. I would imagine the deals are quite similar... I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it's just a thing... so to go off because people are using Phil Knight and Nike interchangeably in the discussion seems a bit shortsighted to me.
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Wrong 100%. Nike does not pay for those uniforms, the University of Oregon does. The university of Oregon also did all of those upgrades, etc... to their facilities, not Nike. Just because Phil Knight donates a very large sum to the university does not mean that Nike pays for it - it comes from his pocket (or his foundation's), not Nike's pockets.
The reason there's a "greater link" is because Phil went there, and was an athlete there. Regardless, his money and his donations are his, not Nike's.
Oregon attorney general forces Ducks' Nike deal open
Ever wonder how much money Nike pays Oregon to wear those ridiculous cutting-edge uniforms? Well, thanks to the Oregonian, now you know.
After an open records request by the newspaper, and the edict of the state’s attorney general, Oregon finally released the details of their agreement with Nike.
Nike has bobbed and weaved its way around releasing the numbers up until this point, behind arguments based on “trade secrets,” while trying their best to remain exempt from Oregon open records laws, moves that worked under former attorney general Hardy Myers, a graduate of Oregon’s law school. But new attorney general John Kroger overturned the ruling, forcing the contract into the open
And while the eight-year, $22.7 million deal is a monster, it turns out it isn’t the largest contract Nike and Oregon grad Phil Knight have shelled out for merchandising. Nike pays North Carolina $33.7 million for the right to put the swoosh on Tar Heel uniforms for 10 years. And in the grand-daddy of contracts, Michigan dropped the swoosh and signed with Adidas in 2007, agreeing to a monstrous eight-year, $66.5 million deal. (Do they get their money back for Rich Rodriguez’s first two seasons?)
As for current collegiate uniform endorsement deals, Oregon athletics is tied with Nebraska for the fourth-largest contract, behind the Wolverines, UNC, and Kansas.
But that’s before considering Phil Knight’s private donations to the university…
Nike Pays Oregon.
And that was in 2010. Who knows how much Nike money is in the till now.
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Wrong 100%. Nike does not pay for those uniforms, the University of Oregon does.
Then Oregon is getting ripped off. Under Armour has a deal worth $17 million to the University of Maryland to provide all of their athletic gear... you telling me that Oregon is giving Nike all of this free advertising AND paying for the gear? I don't think so.
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Then when people protested Nike's working conditions why did Phil Knight pull his own $30 million donation? I get that the name on the checkbook is different... but if Oregon suddenly decided to go with Adidas uniforms, do you really think Phil Knight would continue to give them hundreds of millions of dollars? The two are linked whether you want to admit it or not...
And with that I will add, I don't care. Maryland has the same arrangement with UA.. the guy went there, he played football there, he has a connection. I would imagine the deals are quite similar... I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it's just a thing... so to go off because people are using Phil Knight and Nike interchangeably in the discussion seems a bit shortsighted to me.
cfrs, DC, Pit - you're all correct, my bad - I got lost in making my own point.
Yes, athletic companies pay teams to wear their equipment. But that is a contract between an athletic company and a university for said university to wear solely their product. That being said, the universities decide what their uniforms are - if school A wants to wear one uniform for home and one uniform for away, then they do. If school wants 100 different combinations, then that is their decision. Nike does not tell Oregon what to wear, that was my point. You are 100% correct on the company paying the university to wear their uniforms, but the contract ends there.
Your second paragraph sums it up perfectly...the checkbook is different. My point was that Phil, not Nike gives the university tens of millions of dollars for whatever they want to do with it, Nike give the university money to wear its product. While I get the two are certainly linked, saying (or inferring) Nike paid to keep Chip Kelly at Oregon is just plain wrong.
Moot point though because it really doesn't matter. Sorry for derailing the conversation.
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i agree
Glad we were the ones who pulls the plug - found out he was wavering and basically playing us and we said we ain't fooling with that crap
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It is meaningless overall, just keep reading Nike money kept him in Oregon and it just isn't true.
Really it's not as Oregon is a College Program. That fact alone makes it a little sketchy.. The Browns are a Professional team and I believe that is the difference.
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it's pretty clear the Eagles did want Kelly, or else they wouldn't have spent as much time with him Saturday as they did. If they didn't really want him, they would have done what the Browns did early Sunday when Kelly was dithering and simply taken themselves out of the running. But they did want him, and so they waited all Sunday
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/47958/assessing-the-appeal-of-the-eagles-job
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Obviously haslam wanted him as well - until he realized he was really wavering - I think haslam read him correctly and pulled out
I do like that article because it shows we read him correctly... Time to move on
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OR ... Maybe we really wanted Brian Kelly HC ND and some intern arranging the interviews called Chip Kelly HC Oregon's agent by mistake  Maybe that is the storyline we go with when we hire BK after tonight's BCS NC game. 
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Maybe it's because he's the HC for ND but I can't stand Kelly... seems to have ND going the right direction again, but I dunno... just don't really like the guy... of course the same can be said for every coach for UM (I kind of liked Carr and have a ton of respect for Bo) so maybe it's just the school....
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Dude is old news...move on.
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I do like that article because it shows we read him correctly... Time to move on
Chip Kelly is the one who pulled out. He was a no show for that second meeting and the Browns knew they had lost him.
So the only thing they could do to save face was to put out a comment that it was them who didn't want Kelly. When a man doesn't even show up for the second meeting, it's obvious he is no longer interested in what you had to offer.
But hey, it worked for them in some peoples eyes I guess.
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I do like that article because it shows we read him correctly... Time to move on
Chip Kelly is the one who pulled out. He was a no show for that second meeting and the Browns knew they had lost him.
So the only thing they could do to save face was to put out a comment that it was them who didn't want Kelly. When a man doesn't even show up for the second meeting, it's obvious he is no longer interested in what you had to offer.
But hey, it worked for them in some peoples eyes I guess.
Does it matter?
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Nope...Lock it down and treat this guy like he never existed.
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