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does that make Sergeant Schultz a genius?

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I'd have voted for him.

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does that make Sergeant Schultz a genius?

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I'd have voted for him.

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There are only a handful of teams that would even give Weeden a shot at starting for them, and fewer still that he could actually earn the job in an open competition. Sadly, the Browns are probably the ONLY team that would consider giving him the starting job without him earning it.

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Really? Are you talking about this regime, or the past regime? Because this new regime hasn't done anything to even remotely give anyone a clue as to what their plans are moving forward and as far as I know, you would have nothing to base this claim on.

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Is it any wonder why the Browns suck so bad, year after year after year?

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The Chud O took DA to a 10 win season and the playoffs. But to try to invent some story that there was actually someone in training camp that would have been true competition for Weeden last year is just silly.

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We didn't make the playoffs with Derek Anderson as our QB. And you talk about me inventing some story?

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Even in pre-season last year, Thad was exciting to watch, but his mental mistakes were many. After maturing a bit more over the course of the season, he looked much better by this seasons end.

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He looked like a QB under a Shurmur led offense. As a QB coming off the bench but one that took all the first team snaps before the final game. He should have looked as good as he did.

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At 29, they had to give Weeden the reigns. There wasn't time for him to be schooled. You make it sound as if McCoy or Thad were actually people who could compete for the job at thetime. When everyone observing training camp agreed that Weeden was head and shoulders above the competition.

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And that's the problem. They never should have drafted Weeden (hence one of the primary reasons that they got fired - and 5 wins didn't help any) in the first place. He is too old to teach. He should already know what to do and it's obvious that he doesn't. And they were able to compete for the job but weren't even given the shot because the FO couldn't admit that they burned a first round pick on a 29-y.o. rookie QB. They HAD painted themselves into the corner and had to start him due to his age combined with where they drafted him. They did it to themselves AND to the Cleveland Browns.

It won't surprise me if Weeden is given an opportunity to win the QB competition, but he'll have QB competition (yes, from McCoy and probably a draft pick or UDFA pick-up). It's possible that he's not even on the team next season. They probably wouldn't cut him outright (although I wouldn't be upset if they did) and seek to trade him for whatever the best value they received in return. It wouldn't even matter if it was to an AFC North team.

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When you really have no legit QB on your roster and you draft a QB in the first round, you play him. They did.

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It's your view that there wasn't a legit QB on the roster. And you don't just play a QB in the first round and play him. Green Bay didn't with Aaron Rodgers. He sat for 3 years before moving into the starting job. What you don't do is draft a 29-y.o. player (at QB or anywhere else) in the first round. It had NEVER happened before until the Browns did it last year. Chris Weinke wasn't drafted in the first round and he even won the Heisman Trophy,

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To remotely suggest the same will happen this year is based on pure speculation with no basis. A far more logical conclusion this year would be that McCoy in no way fits the style of O that Chud wishes to run. So McCoy being gone and another QB being picked up to compete and that fits Chud's system will be brought in is a far more logical train of thought.

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You speak of speculation without any basis and then go on and speculate about McCoy not being on the team. And there is basis for thinking that McCoy would be here next year. It was reported that Banner told him that McCoy would "play a role" in the next coaches plans. Maybe the next coach plans on trading him, but that would only be speculation.

Also, you make unfounded assumptions that Weeden fits into Chud's system. What proof do you have of that?

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Then why exactly did Haslam state we learned alot as we went through the process of talking to people?

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The last fortune cookie I opened said the man that knows everything knows nothing...

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Lol mine said The man that tries to lead others doesnt follow himself.

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biased hyperbolic rhetoric.

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That was fun to read

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Don't worry the draft is coming up. People will turn their complaining energy to that soon enough.

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Who's the oldest player in the draft? Has that person been identified? Where are Holmgren and Heckert and Shurmur landing?

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Don't worry the draft is coming up. People will turn their complaining energy to that soon enough.

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Who's the oldest player in the draft? Has that person been identified? Where are Holmgren and Heckert and Shurmur landing?

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The correct question is who is Banner targeting. Sorry but Heckert and his drafting creating one of the youngest teams in the league days are gone. Let me know when we get an actual GM and then we can talk about if that said GM is even close to Heckert.
We wont know if the Gm is good for 3 years.

Glad your so happy about it.

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Don't worry the draft is coming up. People will turn their complaining energy to that soon enough.

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Who's the oldest player in the draft? Has that person been identified? Where are Holmgren and Heckert and Shurmur landing?

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The correct question is who is Banner targeting. Sorry but Heckert and his drafting creating one of the youngest teams in the league days are gone. Let me know when we get an actual GM and then we can talk about if that said GM is even close to Heckert.
We wont know if the Gm is good for 3 years.

Glad your so happy about it.

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I have a feeling with all the love Heckert had here (myself included), the next guy will be reading a lot of hate mail for the next couple of years.

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I have a feeling with all the love Heckert had here (myself included), the next guy will be reading a lot of hate mail for the next couple of years.

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I agree.

Losing Holmgren, no one cares.

Losing Shurmur, most people are happy.

But losing Heckert, and everyone is upset.

I bet if we kept Heckert and hired Chud, everyone would be on the Chud train, lol

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Banner had a lot of smart things to say in that interview.

People should get past all the talk that he doesn't know football, only business. He's sounding smarter and smarter every day...

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Must admit we would have been better off the past few years if it were you and Mourg doing our drafts rather than the clowns that were .. !

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wie konntest du mich vergessen?

Welcome back DS

Hope you post regularly again, as this place needs more good posters

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Well do I count as a good poster? Cuze I can't post here while at work..the firewall thinks this site and Draft Express is a game site..

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Dude, you need to find a new job

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Banner had a lot of smart things to say in that interview.

People should get past all the talk that he doesn't know football, only business. He's sounding smarter and smarter every day...

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That actually was my favorite interview that I've heard him do... really nice interview... if anything it sounds like the FO and Chud are completly on the same page...

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biased hyperbolic rhetoric.

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That was fun to read

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Three words that fairly summarize modern day journalism.

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I said teams, not regimes. Tell us all which team that would name Brandon Weeden their starting QB? I'm interested to know?

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I don't agree. Colt McCoy was there and so was Thaddeus Lewis. Just because there was no 'competition' and the job was handed to Weeden without his having to earn it, doesn't mean that there wasn't anyone to compete with Weeden.

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Personally, I think that was one of the determining factors to Holmgren's and Shurmur's departures. Drafting Weeden, I suggest to you, was also one of the reasons that Heckert was fired. But that's another subject altogether.

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We didn't make the playoffs with Derek Anderson as our QB. And you talk about me inventing some story?

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Yes you busted me. It was not done in jest. I have no idea when the Browns have and have not made the playoffs and I truely believed everyone on this board would believe every word of it. What was I thinking? I know you can rent a sense of humor and I even heard it reporeted from an unnamed source that you can get a lease with an option to buy at....... www.lighten up a liitle.com

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He looked like a QB under a Shurmur led offense. As a QB coming off the bench but one that took all the first team snaps before the final game. He should have looked as good as he did.

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And that's the problem. They never should have drafted Weeden (hence one of the primary reasons that they got fired - and 5 wins didn't help any) in the first place. He is too old to teach. He should already know what to do and it's obvious that he doesn't. And they were able to compete for the job but weren't even given the shot because the FO couldn't admit that they burned a first round pick on a 29-y.o. rookie QB. They HAD painted themselves into the corner and had to start him due to his age combined with where they drafted him. They did it to themselves AND to the Cleveland Browns.

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It won't surprise me if Weeden is given an opportunity to win the QB competition, but he'll have QB competition (yes, from McCoy and probably a draft pick or UDFA pick-up).

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It's possible that he's not even on the team next season. They probably wouldn't cut him outright (although I wouldn't be upset if they did) and seek to trade him for whatever the best value they received in return. It wouldn't even matter if it was to an AFC North team.

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It's your view that there wasn't a legit QB on the roster. And you don't just play a QB in the first round and play him. Green Bay didn't with Aaron Rodgers. He sat for 3 years before moving into the starting job.

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RG3, Luck, Tannehill and Wilson. No, a team should never star their first round selection right out of the gate.

Seriously?

Most teams draft a QB in the first round because they need one. Not because they have a Favre in his prime. You may wish to take another look at your Aaron Rodgers scenario and see that in his case, that was the acception, not the rule over the last decade in terms of first round picks.

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What you don't do is draft a 29-y.o. player (at QB or anywhere else) in the first round. It had NEVER happened before until the Browns did it last year. Chris Weinke wasn't drafted in the first round and he even won the Heisman Trophy,

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You speak of speculation without any basis and then go on and speculate about McCoy not being on the team. And there is basis for thinking that McCoy would be here next year. It was reported that Banner told him that McCoy would "play a role" in the next coaches plans.

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Maybe the next coach plans on trading him, but that would only be speculation.

Also, you make unfounded assumptions that Weeden fits into Chud's system. What proof do you have of that?

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It's all speculation and I have made that point quite clear. The indicators I have is that Chud said he wanted a vertical attack. That woild indicate a QB who has a fairly strong arm. If they do not acquire another QB with a strong arm, I believe they would require a QB with very good accuracy and decision making like an Alex Smith.

I don't see either of those things in Colt. Is it possible that Colt will still be here next year? At this point, anything is possible. I just try to look at the comments made and look at the skill set, or lack there of as the case may be and go from there.

To me, Thad represents the skill set to go vertical much more than Colt does. And I really don't see them sending Weeden packing because he has a much stronger arm than Colt with which to go vertical.

So unlike you, I'm not going to sit here and say who will and won't be on the roster next year at the QB position, but I will look at what Chud said he wanted to implement and see who best fits that plan that we currently have on our roster.

Carry on......

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Loyalty a big motivation for new Cleveland Browns coach Rob Chudzinski
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Regardless of where his football life would take him, Rob Chudzinski (second from left) remained close to his high-school teammates in Toledo (from left) Bert Brady, P.J. Miller and John Ragan. When Miller dealt with a terminal illness, the man who became the Browns' new head coach became a source of support for a family in crisis. (Photo by Photo courtesy Bert Brady)
Tom Reed, The Plain Dealer By Tom Reed, The Plain Dealer
on January 12, 2013 at 10:18 PM, updated January 13, 2013 at 8:59 AM
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No one is more deserving of this opportunity than Chud. I think the stars are aligned.

BEREA, Ohio -- Five years ago, Rob Chudzinski sat in a Cleveland Clinic waiting room discussing friendship, promises and the mortality of a man he had known since high school.

It was the summer of 2008 and Chudzinski listened to P.J. Miller calmly speak about the future of his family without him in it. The Toledo native and Strongsville resident was losing an eight-year battle with cancer.

Chudzinski's mind reeled as his fellow Toledo St. John's football co-captain laid out the sobering details and asked if he and a few close friends would keep watch over his wife, Jane, and their three children. His two boys, Jack and Matt, showed tremendous football potential and Miller wondered if the buddy everyone called "Chud" would shepherd them through their careers.

Fifteen years earlier, Chudzinski had toasted Miller as the best man in the couple's wedding. Six months later, he would eulogize him, asking a roomful of mourners to repeat "We thank you, P.J.," every time the coach recited another of Miller's good deeds.

On this day, however, Chudzinski's sole focus was honoring his friend's solemn request.

"He asked a few of us to help out," the Browns' new coach recalled this week. "It hit me square on that day I needed to live up to my responsibility."

At his introductory news conference, the lifelong Browns fan spoke Friday about wanting to deliver a winner to Cleveland. Chudzinski, 44, is a surprise choice to many, an accomplished assistant with no head coaching experience at the college or NFL level.

But 19-year-old Jack Miller believes nobody will work harder to turn around a franchise. He knows first-hand Chudzinski's loyalty and sacrifice, a man who friends say embodies the Jesuit brotherhood and the "men for others" philosophy.

"Chud is someone who lives up to his end of a bargain," Jack said by phone Saturday. "He would die before he would let down the people who are closest to him. I know I'm biased when I say this, but I think he is going to make a great coach for the Browns."

Same school to same street

Chudzinski has won national championships as a player and coach at the University of Miami. He transformed Derek Anderson into a Pro Bowler for one season in Cleveland and coordinated an offense that helped Cam Newton become an NFL Rookie of the Year in Carolina. But his oldest friends and best memories are rooted in Toledo and northwest Ohio.

The residents of Lucas and Wood counties are thrilled one of their own has become the Browns 14th full-time head coach. On Monday, St. John's students plan to wear Browns shirts to school and gather for a photo, board member and good friend Bert Brady said. They plan to send it to Chudzinski.

The son of an Ohio Air National Guard pilot, Chudzinski's passion for the Browns followed him through his formative years as the family moved from Toledo to Bowling Green to Fremont and back to Toledo. His love for the team has been well chronicled: Munching on dog biscuits, playing backyard football pretending to be tight end Ozzie Newsome, propping a television in the windows of his aunt's home to watch games in the chilly outdoors to simulate life in the Dawg Pound.
chud-friends-2-brady.jpg As a football player at Toledo St. John High School in the 1980s, Rob Chudzinski (87) ran with a circle of athletic friends that included Bert Brady (86), Tom Beier (31) and close friend P.J. Miller (60). Photo courtesy Bert Brady

But it was at St. John's where the dreams of a slow-footed, yet sure-handed tight end manifested themselves. Chudzinski ran with a circle of athletic friends that included Brady, John Ragan, Mark Fabian and the gregarious, barrel-chested Miller. Each enjoyed success after graduation and many were influenced by former St. John's football coach Fred Beier, who died in 2004.

"You talk about discipline, you talk about toughness, you talk about work ethic that we need as part of a football team and the foundation of a football team," Chudzinski said. "Fred was instrumental in teaching those things and stressing those things."

Chudzinski carried those lessons to Coral Gables, Fla.

In a border town split between loyalties for Michigan and Ohio State, Chudzinski's friends became rabid Miami supporters as he won national titles in 1987 and '89. His playing days behind him, they watched as he ascended from a 27-year-old graduate assistant to a Hurricanes coach who molded the careers of future Pro Bowlers Frank Gore, Andre Johnson, Willis McGahee, Bryant McKinnie, Clinton Portis, Jeremy Shockey and Kellen Winslow.

"During football season we didn't hear much from him because he was laser focused," Brady said. "But when it was over he always came home and he was always the same guy -- humble as hell."

In 2004, former Browns coach Butch Davis hired him as the team's tight end coach and after a two-year stint in San Diego he returned to Cleveland as the club's offensive coordinator under Romeo Crennel. He settled in the Strongsville development of Waterford Crossing and lived on the same street as two of his St. John's buddies, Fabian and Miller.

Miller, who worked in sales, had relocated to Cleveland after college and started a family with his wife, Jane. Friends teased him about being the "president of the Chud Fan Club" and digging a tunnel that ran between their homes. They had all grown up Browns fans and here was one of their own calling plays for a team that finished 10-6 in 2007 and sent four offensive players to the Pro Bowl.

"It was so much fun," said Chudzinski, who's married with three children. "Our wives probably didn't always appreciate it because we acted more guys in high school than in our 40s."

It wasn't so bad for the offspring, either. The Miller boys marveled at the good fortune of living in a neighborhood that included former Browns assistant Chuck Pagano and players such as Courtney Brown and Ross Verba. Jack, who attended St. Edward High School for two years, babysat for the Chudzinskis in exchange for game tickets. He met all the players and stood in the stadium tunnel after games, once shaking hands with Baltimore Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis.

"It was a fairy tale, it was a surreal life for a kid who grew up a Browns fan," said Jack Miller, who also has a younger sister. Molly, 15. "Chud always hooked us up, he always took care of us."

Their father, P.J., who was ailing from Hodgkin's lymphoma, realized as much. As the boys showed promise on the football field, the president of the Chud Fan Club knew who he wanted to guide them after he was gone.

Promise kept

During Chudzinski's introductory news conference, owner Jimmy Haslam expressed confidence his new coach would earn the players' respect. Fabian witnessed it at a 2008 fund raiser for Miller. The Browns offensive coordinator encouraged his players to attend and participate in a silent auction. Anderson, Brady Quinn and Josh Cribbs, among others, donated time and money.

"I was so impressed that I went around and thanked the players," Fabian said. "All they kept telling me was, 'We're here for a good cause and we're here because of Chud. We would do anything for him.'"

P.J. Miller died on Feb. 18, 2009 at 40, surrounded by his closest friends. A few days later, Chudzinski celebrated his life with a eulogy, its message still potent enough to move men such as Fabian to tears.

"He was such a good man and a good father," Chudzinski said. "He and Jane did such a great job raising those kids. They are so mature for their age and they're really good students."

The family returned to Toledo three years ago and Jack and Matt played football for their father's alma mater. All of dad's friends assisted in his children's mentorship.

As the boys went through the college recruiting process, Chudzinski counseled them at every turn. They talked about the best fits. They talked about the best programs. Mostly, they talked about life and honoring the wishes of a father.

Matt Miller, who turns 18 on Sunday, has accepted a full ride to Wisconsin. The youngest boy still speaks to Chudzinski three times a week as he prepares for college. Jack Miller earned a scholarship to Michigan two years ago. He's expected to be the Wolverines' starting center next season as a red-shirt sophomore. He wears the No. 60 in tribute to his dad's uniform number at St. John's.

Jack Miller plays for Wolverines coach Brady Hoke, who spent eight seasons as a Michigan assistant before returning nine years later to guide the program. The 6-foot-4, 288-pound center sees similarities between Hoke and Chudzinski.

"They understand what tradition means and what it means to the fans," Jack Miller said. "No one is more deserving of this opportunity than Chud. I think the stars are aligned. ... He wants to be here and no one will expect more of himself."

Jack Miller's father had known it for years.

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The last fortune cookie I opened said the man that knows everything knows nothing...

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So glad to see you know everything

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Colt had one start this year and played in three games for a grand total of 79 yards with 4.65 yards per completion.

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Once again, do you mean at the beginning of this past season, or going into this season?

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Considering it appears that they felt Colt wasn't the answer at the QB position and they invested a first round draft pick in Weeden, I feel they felt the need to start him last year.

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If you mean this upcoming season, I haven't seen anything to indicate they plan not to bring in competition for the starting QB position. Do you?

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Colt had one start this year and played in three games for a grand total of 79 yards with 4.65 yards per completion. The proof is in the pudding. Like I said, they saw a year of Colt and simply did not feel he had the skill set to run the type of O they wished to run. If that's the conclusion you have came to, it's time to move on at that point.

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I do feel that having been here for three seasons and not being set at the QB position did play some role in their departure.

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Yes you busted me. It was not done in jest. I have no idea when the Browns have and have not made the playoffs and I truly believed everyone on this board would believe every word of it. What was I thinking? I know you can rent a sense of humor and I even heard it reported from an unnamed source that you can get a lease with an option to buy at....... www.lighten up a liitle.com

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So you're saying that in the end it really wouldn't have made any difference who the QB was and it was Shurmur who caused things to dail? If so, why are you trying to debate the QB issue?

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I believe you're saying pretty much the same thing I said accept with a slightly different viewpoint. Weeden was a make or break decision for them. I have also said that I didn't see a gradual and marked improvement in him over the course of the season. I won't say Weeden can't get better and be a "good" but not great QB. But things certainly didn't lay out as the prior FO intended it too which is only obvious to anyone watching the Browns over the course of this past season.

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And what is it about McCoy that makes you think he fits into the picture here? I don't really think he posesses the accuracy with the long ball that they are looking for in the big picture. What we did see of him on the field this year was putrid at best.

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So since neither of us know what this new staff has in mind in terms of the QB position, I won't make some bold claim that has zero evidence to substantiate in terms of McCoy.

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I didn't make such a claim. Usually any time you have an entire new regime they want to install "their guy". Neither Colt nor Weeden are "their guy" in terms of them selecting him or being tied to him.

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Yet another very bold prediction with nothing to substantiate it. Now if you were speaking of McCoy, I think this scenario would be far more likely. I believe Thad is much closer to what they're looking for than McCoy based on what they said they intended to run here.

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So if I were to venture a guess, we would have Weeden, Thad and either a FA or draft pick in the QB position next year. Once again, I'm not going to sit here and make some bold prediction about something that is a huge unknown. But this seems more likely to me given the "vertical game" they intend to run.

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Had Colt have shown great accuracy and his arm had shown it was strengthening over time, I would tend to lean more in your direction. But in the playing time he was afforded this season, if anything he looked like he had regressed, not progressed.

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RG3, Luck, Tannehill and Wilson. No, a team should never star their first round selection right out of the gate.

Seriously?

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Most teams draft a QB in the first round because they need one. Not because they have a Favre in his prime. You may wish to take another look at your Aaron Rodgers scenario and see that in his case, that was the exception, not the rule over the last decade in terms of first round picks.

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I don't see that it worked out so good for this former FO, but when you don't have a QB, you go get one and repeat that process until you find one. I don't see anyone kicking and screaming that they picked the right QB here. So I'm not sure the point you're trying to make in all of this.

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Which "next coach" was that exactly? Do you think they knew in advance that they were going to hire Chud at that time? Now if you believe there was some back room deal with Chud the entire time and that everything else they did was simply a smoke screen, that's your peerogative. But I myself find that line of thinking more than just a little far fetched The difference is I openly admit that I'm speculating. You on the other hand have been making statements as a point of fact.

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It's all speculation and I have made that point quite clear. The indicators I have is that Chud said he wanted a vertical attack.

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That would indicate a QB who has a fairly strong arm. If they do not acquire another QB with a strong arm, I believe they would require a QB with very good accuracy and decision making like an Alex Smith.

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I don't see either of those things in Colt. Is it possible that Colt will still be here next year? At this point, anything is possible. I just try to look at the comments made and look at the skill set, or lack there of as the case may be and go from there.

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To me, Thad represents the skill set to go vertical much more than Colt does. And I really don't see them sending Weeden packing because he has a much stronger arm than Colt with which to go vertical.

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I've already stated that every NFL QB on a roster can make the throws necessary in such an offensive scheme. The question becomes how efficiently they can execute that scheme. And it's obvious from your comments that your definition of the vertical offense is the Madden video game version.

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So unlike you, I'm not going to sit here and say who will and won't be on the roster next year at the QB position, but I will look at what Chud said he wanted to implement and see who best fits that plan that we currently have on our roster.

Carry on......

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I'm not saying who is going to be on the roster. I'm only expressing my views about what I think will occur. You accuse me of making unfounded statements and then make unfounded statements. Brilliant!

Educate yourself about the 'vertical offense' first and don't pay attention to the video game version.

And with that, my novel of a response comes to an close.

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The correct question is who is Banner targeting. Sorry but Heckert and his drafting creating one of the youngest teams in the league days are gone. Let me know when we get an actual GM and then we can talk about if that said GM is even close to Heckert.
We wont know if the Gm is good for 3 years.

Glad your so happy about it.

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That is still a generalization Peen. A guy like Crabtree looked like an absolute bust until this year, and now he's an absolute stud.

I do agree with you overall, but some positions take longer to develop......aka WR,QB,etc. However, if a guy is not showing real signs of turning the corner by the end of his rookie year and he plays on the OL or front 7 then yeah it don't look good...lol.

As far as Chud, I'm ecstatic. I was afraid the J&J wouldn't give him a real look because of wanting a name, but they proved me wrong........could be a very good hire, and I like him more than anyone we interviewed. I would prefer we stay with the 43, but I'll wait to see what the plans are before I say anything about a 34 switch..........just want it to be attacking and not a gap filler. It will be interesting who we pair with Chud as a GM. I really hope we get a strong personnel guy as Chud has very little known experience in player evaluation. Has Gamble been hired yet??


Attack, agree with you about Moore. He's my number one target no matter which D we run.

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No doubt it is a general comment. It's hard to be specific on something like that.


But in the end, you agree, and I respect your opinion on things, so.....good

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Can't relay the amount of excitement I have over the Chud hire though.. I JUST know that THIS time it WILL finally be better.. Not because it can't get worse but because he is surrounding himself with proven winners and we were lucky that Heckert didn't leave us with an empty cupboard...

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Understand where you are coming from but as I am sure you can remember.. I was the "Debbie downer" with the ushering in of Shurmer and his staff.. Wasn't that I was a Mangini humper but I DEFINITELY was NOT in favor of him being fired only to be replaced by incompetence..

ANYWAYS.. ENOUGH of my "hindsight." Optimistic to finally anticipate better days..

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I agree. I do think we got it right with Chud.

Between him, the coaches he will attract, and our young, upcoming roster. I think we will win some games next year.

Maybe enough to be drafting say 18-22.


That's improvement.

I think we come in 2nd behind the Bengals, with a shot at the wildcard heading in to the last game of the season.

I know lately I have been dumping my late season games or giving them away. Next year, especially if the last game is a home game, I am holding those seats for me and whoever I choose is going to sit there. It might actually be a game of meaning.

We haven't had one of those since we beat the Falcons in whatever year that was.....Run William, Run.


Plus, I want a chance to wear some of the winter gear I bought with Cleveland in mind. It's rare I can wear it here unless I want to look like a goof. I have $200 boots I have worn maybe 5-6 times. Now I am afraid they may look old and out of date.

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Between him, the coaches he will attract,

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What coaches has he brought here so far ? Either he's waiting until after the SB to go get some or coaches still aren't attracted to Cleveland...

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The Plain Dealer first reported that the Browns have settled on Norv Turner as offensive coordinator. The team will announce the move once Turner returns from vacation. ESPN's Chris Mortensen later confirmed that Turner will be hired, via sources.

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Between him, the coaches he will attract,

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What coaches has he brought here so far ? Either he's waiting until after the SB to go get some or coaches still aren't attracted to Cleveland...

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See....we just hired a strength coach!