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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/fo...ould/index.htmlHilarious read and it gives insight of what a HUGE outsmarting idiot Lombardi truly is. Best part is when he calls Newsome a "value drafter", lol while having no clue about value himself, as he would be too cheap to flip picks for Ryan but then overpay to "go get" Henne in round 1....Flacco isn't even on his radar...you know, that's where "value drafter" Newsome is going while you're outsmarting yourself by panic-picking Henne....just great. Here goes: If I worked for the Jets, I would ... Prepare for the unexpected. The draft for the New York Jets does not start until the Atlanta Falcons make their selection at No. 3. Before the Falcons make their pick, I would have two plans in place. Plan A would assume the Falcons did not select Boston College quarterback Matt Ryan. I would then be on the phone with Arkansas running back Darren McFadden and his representatives, telling them he would be our guy at No. 6. I'd do this while knowing and hoping the phone calls might force the Raiders hand in actually selecting McFadden at No. 4. At the same time I would make numerous trade offers to the Raiders -- with absolutely no intention of trading -- knowing Al Davis hates to trade down on draft day. If the Raiders suspect we are trying to trade up to get McFadden then this freezes the pick, meaning the pick is not for sale to anyone else at that moment. My main goal is to tie up the Raiders' phone lines, freeze their pick and determine what Baltimore is thinking at No. 8. The Ravens are my main competition for a quarterback and I need to do whatever is possible to determine their course of action. I don't expect the Raiders to move, but I am hoping they will offer me some vital clues with each one of my calls. On draft day, every team's strategy has to be declared; it's now time to show your hand. Every phone call I make, I closely listen to the voice on the other line to determine if they are bluffing or if they have something concrete in the works. If the Raiders pass on every deal offered and select McFadden, as I suspect, and I also determine that Baltimore is on the move to acquire Ryan, then I call the Kansas City Chiefs at No. 5 to discuss flopping picks. I know I cannot freeze Kansas City's pick because the Chiefs have so many holes that they will be trying to acquire picks all day. Carl Peterson, the Chiefs president, is not an easy trade partner. He has to win every deal. That is just Carl's nature. He will suspect I am desperate, willing to pay his price to acquire Ryan. But I will offer what I believe is a fair deal based on the value of the picks being exchanged and not back down. If Peterson thinks he can intimidate or bluff me into a deal, then he is dead wrong.I also know Baltimore GM Ozzie Newsome is not likely to overpay for the pick nor get strong-armed by Peterson. Newsome is a value drafter and rarely does he throw in all his chips. But if Newsome is willing to overpay, that still will not change my thoughts or offer. So I make my offer and stand firm.If I lose Ryan to the Ravens then my choice is pretty simple: I take Jonathan Stewart, the Oregon running back. Stewart is not receiving the accolades his talent deserves, mainly because of his recent turf toe surgery, yet he may prove to be the best back in this draft. One thing I definitely don't do is sit still. I start making calls to teams in the back end of the first round. With Ryan in Baltimore, I know my competition for Michigan quarterback Chad Henne has been reduced by one team. I start calling Seattle at 25, San Diego at 27 and Dallas at 28, with trade offers using my second-round pick (No. 36 overall) to get back into the first round.I also will worry about the Chicago Bears trying to move into the bottom of the first round. But I know Bears GM Jerry Angelo very well. He is strict and disciplined when it comes to valuing draft picks. He loves multiple picks and is very reluctant to part with any. I also know the Chiefs are potential players in the quarterback market. Depending on what position they take at No. 5, that will help me understand where they may be headed with their 17th pick that they just acquired in the Jared Allen trade. Now, Plan B. If the Falcons pick Ryan at three, then I stay where I am and pick Stewart, assuming the Raiders take McFadden. I will still work my plan to get back into the first round to get Henne. But now I know Baltimore will be even more serious competition. So I may have to move further into the first round, calling the Redskins at 21 and the Steelers at 23. I have to work every single one of my options and keep applying the pressure on all the teams to finalize a deal. My goal is to come out of this draft with a running back and quarterback, two cornerstones of the future for my team. Nothing can stop me from achieving that goal.  So, his ego would get in the way of paying the Chiefs' Peterson for Ryan but then he probably wastes a future 1st because his "goal is to come out of this draft with a running back and quarterback, two cornerstones of the future for my team."...and of course "Nothing can stop me from achieving that goal" Dude is so clueless, it's not even funny. He's all about pissing match and has no clue about player value....sorry but dude will be in over his head come draft weekend. Paired with at least another (if not 2) big egos on draft day, this "consensus" has a lot of potential to turn into Mangini-Kokinis again. One thing is for sure, the Browns will be fun again on draft day 
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More Ïhan ever, I really hope that Chud, Turner and Horton have pull to get what's needed....
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I don't see a great resume with Lombardi, but your hate for the guy has blinded you from seeing an entertaining and insightful article for what it is: A piece designed to give the common lunch-pail wielding fan a glimpse into how a personnel man works.
I thought it was fascinating to read how Carl Peterson needs to win the deal, and how easy it is to manipulate Al Davis.
It's accurate to say Newsome is a value-drafter.
That was an interesting read. I'm not gonna blast a guy for being paid to produce an article that he was paid to produce.
There are reasons to question Lombardi's resume. Picking on pieces like that doesn't help that cause.
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Flacco isn't even on his radar
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I don't see a great resume with Lombardi, but your hate for the guy has blinded you from seeing an entertaining and insightful article for what it is: A piece designed to give the common lunch-pail wielding fan a glimpse into how a personnel man works.
I thought it was fascinating to read how Carl Peterson needs to win the deal, and how easy it is to manipulate Al Davis.
It's accurate to say Newsome is a value-drafter.
That was an interesting read. I'm not gonna blast a guy for being paid to produce an article that he was paid to produce.
There are reasons to question Lombardi's resume. Picking on pieces like that doesn't help that cause.
Longterm thinking, you are probably right about all that toad, but I'm still hopeful that Chud, Turner and Horton have a LOT of input.
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More than ever, I really hope that Chud, Turner and Horton have pull to get what's needed....
I agree, but what's really sad is none of them are experienced talent evaluators....and we're hoping that they make the decisions over the one hired to do the job. 
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Longterm thinking, you are probably right about all that toad, but I'm still hopeful that Chud, Turner and Horton have a LOT of input.
Agreed.
Logically speaking, if Turner is calling the plays, it's going to be his offense. If it's his offense, I hope he has the greatest input on the players. Unconventional? Possibly, but his resume on offense is massively successful, so if Chud, whom I like, handed the entire unit over to Turner I wouldn't be the least bit upset.
Horton seems like a loose cannon. I think he knows what he's doing but I don't trust him the way I trust Turner.
Chud seems like a smart guy and has done good things wherever he's gone. I'd trust him as well.
And though people hate hearing it, I think Banner knows far more than people give him credit for.
The two guys that worry me are Lombardi, though less so now that there has been a surprise bunch of support for him in the league, and Haslam, who I have no idea about. He could be a businessman that has the feel for players, or he could be Jerry Jones. I'm glad he's got the team instead of Lerner, but the big question is how much input he's going to have. Will he have any?
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We have a young talented roster and damn near 50 mil in cap space. We have hired the legend OC and the hot commodity DC. WE have the head coach that I have wanted here since I first saw him in camp. This has me thrilled.
I try to block the rest of the stuff out because that is just depressing.
As for the article, excellent read. Really takes you into the mind of these personnel guys. Anyway, what really came across was how he planned to manipulate his way into getting what he wanted. I really thought it was telling on how he felt he could work Al Davis.
Good stuff in there.
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More than ever, I really hope that Chud, Turner and Horton have pull to get what's needed....
I agree, but what's really sad is none of them are experienced talent evaluators....and we're hoping that they make the decisions over the one hired to do the job.
well, that's all very true, however we know what Lombardi would do, so I really think that the brain trust of Chud, Turner and Horton could only help.
But I get your point.
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Agreed.
Logically speaking, if Turner is calling the plays, it's going to be his offense. If it's his offense, I hope he has the greatest input on the players. Unconventional? Possibly, but his resume on offense is massively successful, so if Chud, whom I like, handed the entire unit over to Turner I wouldn't be the least bit upset.
Horton seems like a loose cannon. I think he knows what he's doing but I don't trust him the way I trust Turner.
Chud seems like a smart guy and has done good things wherever he's gone. I'd trust him as well.
And though people hate hearing it, I think Banner knows far more than people give him credit for.
The two guys that worry me are Lombardi, though less so now that there has been a surprise bunch of support for him in the league, and Haslam, who I have no idea about. He could be a businessman that has the feel for players, or he could be Jerry Jones. I'm glad he's got the team instead of Lerner, but the big question is how much input he's going to have. Will he have any?
Actually, I think Horton is very level headed and seems to have the right take on how to run a D. He apparently is going to mirror what the Offense is doing. Try to take away what they do..
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Banner=I don't know what he knows about player evals. he's never done it as far as I can tell.
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I really don't see much wrong with what he has written.He was wrong about Henne but I wonder how many experts had Henne ranked higher than Flacco? I do remember alot of prople being surprised that Baltimore drafted Flacco in the 1st. But I agree completely with what he had to say about dealing with Carl Peterson. There was more to the article than what was posted and he made some good points further on. You left out the part where he was on the money about Vernon Gholston. And in reality what would have been better for the Jets? Vernon Gholston or Jonathan Stewart?
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6th slot of what looked like a talent thin draft. Ravens played it right that year and traded down for a 1st and 2nd.
However ept ths new front office proves to be at talent acquisition, it has a huge need of pulling off a move like Ozzie's in 08 and adding another top 62 pick and keep the youth movement going.
The best way to utilize ths coaching staff imo is give them raw clay to coach up
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I wouldn't mind another pick in a trade down. I guess it depends on who is there at 6 and how much of an impact he would have over a guy selected somewhere in the teens and mid forties.
On a side note as I don't see it mentioned much, when we end up evaluating the draft, we have to slot in Josh Gordon as the 2nd round pick.
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I wouldn't mind another pick in a trade down. I guess it depends on who is there at 6 and how much of an impact he would have over a guy selected somewhere in the teens and mid forties.
On a side note as I don't see it mentioned much, when we end up evaluating the draft, we have to slot in Josh Gordon as the 2nd round pick.
And so far, Gordon looks like a steal in the second....
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I really don't see much wrong with what he has written.He was wrong about Henne but I wonder how many experts had Henne ranked higher than Flacco? I do remember alot of prople being surprised that Baltimore drafted Flacco in the 1st. But I agree completely with what he had to say about dealing with Carl Peterson. There was more to the article than what was posted and he made some good points further on. You left out the part where he was on the money about Vernon Gholston. And in reality what would have been better for the Jets? Vernon Gholston or Jonathan Stewart?
This article just isn't about mis-evaluating Henne (he would have drafted him as high as 21st overall...Henne went 57th...after the almighty Brian Brohm)....what this article shows is the outsmarter Lombardi is. He'd be too proud to give in Peterson's demand (which would still be FAR less expensive) to get Ryan and then turns around and goes all panic mode for Henne, wasting a future 1st in the process. It also shows that he had no clue about player VALUE, but even if he had Henne at same value with Ryan, the way he'd have approached things are flat out stupid, as in BOTH cases he determines HIS selection based on what OTHERS think (or might think)...he thinks it's an ego game and he just doesn't get it. I wish we had "value drafter" Newsome running the show for us and not this clown
Oh, and to everyone that hopes the coaches have input: I like them as much as anyone on here, but they're coaches and not scouts. Who the hell guarantees that theses guys can evaluate College prospects? Holmgren was a great coach too, but a crappy talent evaluator. It's pretty telling when fans hope the coaches can do the player aquisition part too
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Oh, and to everyone that hopes the coaches have input: I like them as much as anyone on here, but they're coaches and not scouts.
Feels as if that was directed at me.. Listen, I'd much rather have Turners input in decisions. Same with Chud.
Lombardi has NEVER been impressive as an NFL GM or as a writer from my perspective.
I can't find anything that says that Joe Banner has ever evaluated any players.
So if we don't get coaching input, I think we're in trouble.
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I haven't seen reports telling me anything about what happened to the scouting department.
But since Heckert hasn't gotten a job, and I haven't heard about our scouts bailing, I am praying we were able to keep them on board.
If we keep the same scouts and Chud/Turner/Horton have massive influence we may be alright.
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I haven't seen reports telling me anything about what happened to the scouting department.
But since Heckert hasn't gotten a job, and I haven't heard about our scouts bailing, I am praying we were able to keep them on board.
If we keep the same scouts and Chud/Turner/Horton have massive influence we may be alright.
I am pretty wary of Banner and Lombardi. I pray they don't ruin this team. \
I was wondering about that also but then I remembered something that came up in another regime change (lord knows we've had some experience with that)
The Scouting crew is under contract until after the draft. Their contract year begins after the draft is complete.
At least that's the way I remember it
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I was wondering about that also but then I remembered something that came up in another regime change (lord knows we've had some experience with that)
The Scouting crew is under contract until after the draft. Their contract year begins after the draft is complete.
At least that's the way I remember it
That's what I recall as well.
Thought the article was fantastic. I could make a strong argument that Jonathon Stewart has been a better player than McFadden. Lombardi was about half a round off on Henne's value when you look at where he was drafted and where Lombardi thought he would go. (Not good but not as bad as some people will try to make it)
Now what people are forgetting, while working for NFL Network he probably didn't have a legion of Scouts to help him evaluate players. That would be a reason he was not able to scout a small school Delaware QB.
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He is. Questionable hire at this point...
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He is. Questionable hire at this point...
Oh, I think he's a great hire.
Rob Ryan is a great coordinator, but he's a loose cannon.
Both guys are coordinators that teams love to have, but neither guy is the one I would want necessarily making every single personnel decision on defense. These passionate guys can get a little knee-jerky and I'd hate to have an impulsive decision create a personnel move, so while I'd like Horton to have some input, I don't want him picking his players all by himself the way I'd be comfortable with Turner doing it.
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He is. Questionable hire at this point...
Oh, I think he's a great hire.
Rob Ryan is a great coordinator, but he's a loose cannon.
Both guys are coordinators that teams love to have, but neither guy is the one I would want necessarily making every single personnel decision on defense. These passionate guys can get a little knee-jerky and I'd hate to have an impulsive decision create a personnel move, so while I'd like Horton to have some input, I don't want him picking his players all by himself the way I'd be comfortable with Turner doing it.
I don't know how you or anyone could compare Ryan and Horton.. I mean, look at how their defenses performed and how they ranked. Horton has it all over Ryan statistically.
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I think that Horton is a passionate coach ...... and he shows his emotions. He drives his players hard, and players respond to him.
I think that he understands how to put players into advantageous situations by looking at what they do best, but also understands how to mix up fronts and coverages. I would bet that we rarely show the same front/coverage from down to down. Should drive opposing coordinators nuts.
Now, I do think that we'll have struggles along the way. Growing pains are inevitable. Players will make mistakes as the 3-4 that Horton runs is far more complex than the Jauron 4-3. (though I don't know if it is as complex as Ryan's 3-4, which was almost a degree program fr the players, with keys for almost everyone)
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It was a fun article but some food for thought: a Jonathan Stewart/Chad Henne draft would've clobbered their actual Vernon Gholston/Dustin Keller picks and saved them from Sanchezing themselves the next year. 
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If "never been impressive" = SUCKS then I can agree with you.
it does and you do 
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It was a fun article but some food for thought: a Jonathan Stewart/Chad Henne draft would've clobbered their actual Vernon Gholston/Dustin Keller picks and saved them from Sanchezing themselves the next year.
Really? I think it would have been WORSE, since they would have wasted a future 1st in the Henne-aquiring process and thus I think they would have wasted as much time with him as with Sanchez
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The most disturbing area of this article isn't the players being discussed it's the rationale behind how he'd have operated as the GM in 2008. And we now have this guy as our GM in 2013?!? GAHHH!@!!
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It was a fun article but some food for thought: a Jonathan Stewart/Chad Henne draft would've clobbered their actual Vernon Gholston/Dustin Keller picks and saved them from Sanchezing themselves the next year.
Really? I think it would have been WORSE, since they would have wasted a future 1st in the Henne-aquiring process and thus I think they would have wasted as much time with him as with Sanchez
An early 2nd + a 3rd could get you back into the late first, depending on the specifics. It wouldn't take a future 1st.
Trading a future first plus another pick to get back into the late 1st round is incredibly stupid. The Pats have been beneficiaries of a lot of those trades. It's crazy how the future 1st tends to become more valuable than the late 1st in the current year, plus usually another 2nd rounder on top of that. I don't get how fans can start planning for their retirement 30 years in advance, but be ok with their favorite sports team getting ~50% value from a pick so the team can use it 1 year earlier. I don't believe Lombardi would do that.
In the current NFL climate, trading future 1sts should be very rare and basically reserved for blue chip QB prospects, guys who would be the consensus #1 overall pick in most drafts (thinking Manning and RG3 here)
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No team trades out of the 1st round for a freaking 3rd rounder...no one. Lombardi wanted to leap as much as half a round in the top 40 up to 21st ovr, that ALWAYS involves a future 1st, think Brady Quinn trade
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The most disturbing area of this article isn't the players being discussed it's the rationale behind how he'd have operated as the GM in 2008.
And we now have this guy as our GM in 2013?!?
GAHHH!@!!
Exactly, but somehow most posters don't seem to care and don't get it. His "thinking" reeks of outsmarter, who's more concerned to look good among his peers than simply do the best for his team or have any clue about player value and act accordingly.
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I don't know about that, but if i was a GM I'd pick defensively with the first 2-3 picks. By that I mean make safe picks and not be so worried about finding that diamond in the rough.
Then come the 4th round, use all the formulas, crystal balls, or throw darts to make the selections in hopes of finding that later round diamond.
If I have to do a lot of projecting with a player taken in rounds 1 or 2, I don't want him...other than QB, you always have to project them a bit.
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No team trades out of the 1st round for a freaking 3rd rounder...no one. Lombardi wanted to leap as much as half a round in the top 40 up to 21st ovr, that ALWAYS involves a future 1st, think Brady Quinn trade
What you posted didn't involve going from 40 to 21... that would always involve a 1st rounder.. I agree, but must have missed something (I have a bad habit of skimming.) Here's the money quote:
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If I lose Ryan to the Ravens then my choice is pretty simple: I take Jonathan Stewart, the Oregon running back. Stewart is not receiving the accolades his talent deserves, mainly because of his recent turf toe surgery, yet he may prove to be the best back in this draft. One thing I definitely don't do is sit still. I start making calls to teams in the back end of the first round. With Ryan in Baltimore, I know my competition for Michigan quarterback Chad Henne has been reduced by one team. I start calling Seattle at 25, San Diego at 27 and Dallas at 28, with trade offers using my second-round pick (No. 36 overall) to get back into the first round.
He's talking about going from 36 to the mid-late twenties. There is definitely precedent for those types of trades that don't involve a future 1st.
2007: Cowboys 36 (Kolb), 87, and 159 to Eagles for 26 (Spencer)
2009: New England 26 (Matthews) and 162 to Packers for 41, 73, and 83
2010: Minnesota 30 and 128 to Detroit for 34, 100, and 214
That's by no means an exhaustive list.. I just briefly looked through the wiki trade notes on the '07-'10 drafts. The discrepancy comes from whether we're talking about jumping ~20 spots or less than 10.
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Now, Plan B. If the Falcons pick Ryan at three, then I stay where I am and pick Stewart, assuming the Raiders take McFadden. I will still work my plan to get back into the first round to get Henne. But now I know Baltimore will be even more serious competition. So I may have to move further into the first round, calling the Redskins at 21 and the Steelers at 23. I have to work every single one of my options and keep applying the pressure on all the teams to finalize a deal. My goal is to come out of this draft with a running back and quarterback, two cornerstones of the future for my team. Nothing can stop me from achieving that goal.
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d'oh... reading is hard. My bad.
You can still make offers to move from 36 to 21 or 23 without a future 1st, something like your 2nd, 3rd, and 4th to move back up. it's likely to be declined but you can still offer. It's hard to know what the guy was thinking, or really, how much weight to even put into a 5 year article which may or may not represent what he would actually do in those spots.
Beyond that though I really don't have a strong opinion on the guy one way or another. Guess we'll just have to see how it plays out.
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I think Lombardi does like to trade during the draft, that is for sure. It will be interesting to see what happens on draft day.
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Have you ever gotten in a car with a person you know is a terrible driver?
Do you find it interesting or pretty damn troubling?
I know I'm going to be gripping the middle console and the armrest pretty tightly come April.
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Have you ever gotten in a car with a person you know is a terrible driver?
Do you find it interesting or pretty damn troubling?
I know I'm going to be gripping the middle console and the armrest pretty tightly come April.
I think you worry to much my friend. At least wait and see if he hasn't become better.....
I am not going to sit here and defend the guy other than to say he was in some situations where I don't think he had total say over the calls, and in some cases, he got strapped with bad luck....Russell as an example.
Russell was the clear cut #1 choice on every board found on the net and I would bet in NFL circles as well. Heart is the big immeasurable, and while he had all the talent in the world, he didn't have the heart....at least once he banked $millions.
That is the quandry......big $ can decrease desire.
I'll be honest, had I been handed $millions while in my early twenties, I would have said screw it and taken a life long rum boat cruise.
Most people who win the big lottery usually don't show up for work soon there after. For Russell and some others, the draft is their lottery win. Good for them, not so good for those counting on them to make a difference.
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