He sounds like he's pontificating constantly. He's a blowhard. Listen to the Simmons podcasts with Lombardi sometime. I don't think he contradicted a Simmons assertion once.
The guy wants to be perceived as smart. And he's desperate to be liked.
In my opinion the guy is going to be a disaster. It's my opinion based on all the information I have at hand.
I just hope he doesn't screw us up too bad and he's found out quickly to be a fraud.
He sounds like he's pontificating constantly. He's a blowhard. Listen to the Simmons podcasts with Lombardi sometime. I don't think he contradicted a Simmons assertion once.
The guy wants to be perceived as smart. And he's desperate to be liked.
In my opinion the guy is going to be a disaster. It's my opinion based on all the information I have at hand.
I just hope he doesn't screw us up too bad and he's found out quickly to be a fraud.
I hope you are wrong, and if your are right, I hope your wish comes true.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Lombardi is a Browns bashing ass and he has been one of the worst personnel men in the history of the game. Now with that said, I have listened to the guy for a long time and I have agreed with most of his evaluations in the last year or two. There will always be some disagreement but I believe hanging out with Casserly, Mayock and a lot of NFL talent has aided him in his evaluations.
I dont like Banner and I like Lombardi less but both have had a lot of time to think about how to do things better than before. That has value. Hey those dumb mistakes we make are lessons we aren't soon to forget. The negatives outweigh the positives but there are positives.
We have some big decisions coming up and 50 mil in cap space plus the #6 overall pick are huge opportunities . I hope these guys are smart enough to finish this thing and not destroy what we have built.
This will change as we start hearing stuff but right now this is my guess as to what Lombardi will do.
#6 Matt Barkley most likely but Tyler Wilson will be looked at Thouroughly FA Mike Hartline to pair with Gordon and Little moves into a slot/TE type role. TE Marcedes Lewis should be available and could be a big weapon
defensively We are going to go big on defense. I think this is where we make a big run. Ed Reed on a 2 or 3 year deal. There will be a few pass rushers out there and we will be shooting for elite. I also expect a free agent corner and it will be a brand name corner.
shot in the dark guess: Then there is also the Mallett rumor. Patriots time is running out and I could see them packaging their #1 with Mallett and a 2nd to jump to #6 to get their big impact player to push them over the top. Tom Brady looked old last year, I figure 1 or 2 seasons of opportunity remain for them.
Lombardi has been drooling over Barkley for a couple years now. No one here may like it but Lombardi along with most everyone on Total Access have been pimping Barkley big time.
Ed just won a super bowl he will go where the money is. One big payday before he retires. I think the Ravens have already decided to let him walk.
On Brady, at times this year he just looked like an old QB to me. Hell he looked almost as old as Weeden lol.
If we take Barkley at #6, I may drive to Berea and punch out Lombardi myself.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Good, because I don't think I could drive that far.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Geno Smith is my top QB and I have him at 17. I have a 2nd round grade on a about 6 or 7 more QBs. Just a weird draft. I have 1 offensive player in my top 10 and thats Joeckel at #1.
Quote: If we take Barkley at #6, I may drive to Berea and punch out Lombardi myself.
If we're dumb enough to pick Barkley at #6, then our fears will be confirmed and we can count on this FO being, yet another, disaster. I'm going to cling to the hope that even Lombardi isn't THAT idiotic.
[color:"white"]"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
What if Matt Barkley goes to the combine and rips it apart?
What if he is taller than everyone though, has more arm strength, and throws a good deep ball? Then would you be upset?
I don't think any of those things will happen, but I think there is a non-zero chane Barkley has a great combine. And no QB in this draft has better intangibles than Barkley. He is going to do great on all the off the field stuff.
What I do find interesting is that ML has learned all the GM's tendencies and attitudes about picks and trading..he also likes to move around.. Now that is a good thing because he knows he needs more picks this year. The ?????? is can he now evaluate the talent to be successful? He's going to be in the thick of things and all this knowledge he's accumilated will now be tested once more against people who still have been doing it since he was out of the NFL.
I don't think Barkley is a 1st round QB, but there is a chance he is. There is a chance he goes to the combine and kills it.
People are saying that if we pick Barkley they will be upset. I am saying that we shouldn't say that this early in the process when no one has seen Barkley throw.
Quote: Give a good QB the best WR tandem in college, a top RB transfer, and a solid Oline, and then watch Barkley, and tell me he's a 1st round QB.
The best WR tandem in college, definitely. But in 2011 when Barkley threw 39 TDs and 7 INTs he had Curtis McNeal as his running back. In 2011 he did have one of the best O-Lines, but in 2012 the O-Line was in shambles.
Like I said, I don't think he is a 1st round talent, but I think there is a non-zero chance he proves everybody wrong.
Matt Barkley (Can I go back to calling him "Barely" yet?) is Matt Leinart. He was great in college ...... man did he tear it up ........
But he's not an NFL QB.
He's Brady Quinn. He's Charlie Frye.
He lacks arm strength and more importantly, he lacks anticipation. Lacking anticipation means that you lack the ability to play in the NFL.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
The ability to see a receiver coming open, and to get the ball there as he is making his break.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
He appeared to have some degree of anticipation skill in college, but he hasn't shown much in the NFL yet.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Quote: The best WR tandem in college, definitely. But in 2011 when Barkley threw 39 TDs and 7 INTs he had Curtis McNeal as his running back. In 2011 he did have one of the best O-Lines, but in 2012 the O-Line was in shambles.
Like I said, I don't think he is a 1st round talent, but I think there is a non-zero chance he proves everybody wrong.
cfrs15, I thought Tyler Bray had the best WR tandem in college? He had two guys that might go before Woods.
I get the feeling you think Barkley is getting more negatives heaped upon him than he deserves. If that's how you feel, I agree.
I don't what it is, YTown, but something about the way you state your opinions as facts make me feel like you're FOS. You're not the only one, but you're one of the few that makes me feel that way sometimes.
Quote: cfrs15, I thought Tyler Bray had the best WR tandem in college? He had two guys that might go before Woods.
I think that having Marquise Lee puts the USC guys above anyone else. People are talking about how Clowney can be in the NFL right now, I think the same about Lee. In his two years at USC he has 2,864 receiving yards.
Quote: I get the feeling you think Barkley is getting more negatives heaped upon him than he deserves. If that's how you feel, I agree.
That's how I feel. Barkley started all four years at USC. He kept that team together more than anyone else through all the sanctions and still performed at a high level. It's easy to pick someone apart who has been in the spotlight since their senior year in high school. I also think Lane Kiffin is an egomaniac who is in over his head and that could have held Barkley back as well.
With all that said, from what we know now I don't want Barkley. Right now I believe he is a second round QB. We don't have a second round pick, so that means we would have to use a first on him. If he's there in the third we have to take him.
Like I have said, I think there is a chance that Barkley kills it at the combine (he will definitely do great in all the interviews) and flies up people's boards.
I had a solid top 10 grade on Barkley last year and this year he has looked like a late first early 2nd rounder. IMHO his arm isnt an issue. He doesnt have a great arm but it is at least average.
I go defense at 6 without question but I do like Barkley and think he will be a good NFL QB. I hate the leinart comparison because they are nothing alike. Matt Leinart would dump it down and the receiver or back would run 50 yards and he had no arm.
Barkley has an average arm. He isnt Flacco but he has a stronger arm than DAlton.
Bingo. That's why see QBs taken in the first round so often. Teams talk themselves into these guys and if they think a guy is a good NFL QB then they have to take them.
I think Barkley will do well in a WCO but he is a much greater risk in the Coryell offense we will be running. For this scheme, I want the great arm.
1st round this year is all about the front 7. I would guess more than 20 of the top 32 this year will DT, DE and linebackers. I think it could go as high as 26.
Quote: can you describe what anticipation is for a QB?
Anticipation comes from chemistry. A QB might need to be with the same WR and system and with the same coaches for more than one year to develop anticipation. I'm not sure we'll ever see that here in Cleveland because guys are labeled failures after one year and then we start over.
Quote: Anyone who wants Alex Smith should also want Matt Barkley.
Will Matt Barkley play like a seasoned vet in year one like Alex Smith would be expected to? They probably have the same ceiling but Alex Smith has a chance to succeed in Cleveland where Barkley would be labeled a failure after one season if he were drafted.
Quote: I think Barkley will do well in a WCO but he is a much greater risk in the Coryell offense we will be running. For this scheme, I want the great arm.
1st round this year is all about the front 7. I would guess more than 20 of the top 32 this year will DT, DE and linebackers. I think it could go as high as 26.
Ok, you think he will be good as long as it's in the right system and not ours. That's fair and I misunderstood what you were saying before.
Quote: The poster I was questioning made it sound like anticipation was a trait that cannot be acquired.
I think that it can be, to an extent. Other traits cannot, or rarely are.
I was unimpressed with Barkley every time I saw him play. I did not see an NFL QB, frankly, in any aspect of his play.
Barkley has a weaker arm than I want ...... and I go back to the Super Bowl when the announcer (I can't remember which one) watched each QB zip passes into his receivers, and said that's why you want a QB with a strong arm, no matter how some people try to say that it doesn't matter ...... or words to that effect.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
I think he would be a bad fit in this scheme and then you add in trying to throw the deep ball in Cleveland and Cinn with the wind gusting 50 mph. Put him in a dome or a fair weather city and he should be pretty damn good. High trajectory throwers and major wind is a legitimate conflict.
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