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I thought of Kosar...that is why I said it usually doesn't win for you....Sipe wasn't as weak armed as some like to think. He threw a tight ball that cut the wind....Chuck doesn't, so comparison between the two doesn't apply IMO.
By and large you can look through the history of the league and most of the top QBs had the physical skills and a mix and match in the brain department.
The commom factor... they had the skill set.
I agree with all of the above. I wasn't trying to argue with you or defend Frye, I also think Frye is not our savior, was just trying to say that a QB's brain can take him a long long way.
As far as Sipe, he did have some zip on the ball, but that was limited to shorter passes. He struggle trying to get the ball deep.
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I think it is a valid concern in combination with other things. To give up even a third rounder and pay BIG BUCKS to a 37 year old QB? And since you brought it up,how many weeks did Charlie miss when he got his bell rung again? A "mild concussion" doesn't sideline you for EIGHT WEEKS Toad. A SEVERE one does! And that can't really be denied. Well,I guess it can be.  But in combination with his being 37,having to give a first day pick,high salary? I count the "eight week" concussion into the equasion. You honestly don't? And the 2-3 record upon his return? So yes,a combination of these factors do "scare me away" from him. Fraley? He's a veteran player,not a rookie. He knew the system by the end of last year. So how is he going to be "better" this year again? I have no complaints about Fraley. But rookies get better with development. Jouneymen are what they are. While I see a "slight upgrade" at RG,I don't see much of one. Clearly we him rated much differently.  I see one "true upgrade" on our OL. Steinbach. And Tucker? HE says he's ready. Are you banking on Tucker this year,or hoping for Tucker this year?
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Because he is good enough to be a solid back-up and maybe a decent starter in time.
Be still my heart 
Peen is admitting that Charlie is a solid back-up and COULD evolve into a DECENT starter in time..
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Peen is admitting that Charlie is a solid back-up and COULD evolve into a DECENT starter in time..Will wonders never cease
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Trent Green is 37 and not as mobile as he once was. The Browns offensive line hasn't been good at pass protection since 1994. Trent Green underwent major head injuries last season that took him out of the Chiefs lineup and he returned a different man; a far more interception prone man. Charlie Frye is a far better scrambler than Trent Green. So, you tell me what's better? A 37 year old QB who is lucky to even possibly play football after his injuries last year behind the Browns poor pass blocking line (with a new OL Coach from the Texans - the same guy whose unit allowed the NFL record sacks of Carr) or a young, mobile, healthy QB like Frye? I'd rather go with Frye. Trent Green wouldn't last more than a few games - if that with us.
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alright,,, don't give him any outs,,, he said it, he can't deny it,,,, Peen is a closet Charlie hugger... the truth is out...
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You say this O-line is still a disaster. I vehemently disagree. The biggest failure of this O-line last year was our guard play. 'Druzzi is done and he's been replaced by a pro-bowl caliber player.
I don't want to speak for Pit here, but I tend to agree that we've improved on PAPER,,, but until they prove it on the field,, ?
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Now it's time to get off the "major head trauma" kick here dOOD.
Wooo there big fella,,, get down off that horse... Concussions are serious,,,
Here's what's against Green:
37 years old
Severe concussion
High $ contract..
Can't do a thing about the first two items, but maybe he'll come down from that 6 or 7 million contract he has now. Please note, somewhere in here, there is an article that says that KC would keep him if they could redo his contract (I take that to mean reduce it) They know more about Green than any of us do and they won't even pay him that kinda money,,, why the heck should we,,
Now the final reason to skip Green,,, we gotta give up a pick,,,,
I guess if it's a 7th rounder,,, ok,,but on the radio a moment ago, it was reported that Miami offered a 7th and KC rejected... I can't verify that because like I said, it was on the radio,,,might show up in print soon so I'll be watching.
IF true, that would mean it would take a 6th rounder or better to land him!
So now you have:
37 Years Old
Severe Concussion
High $ contract
6th round pick
If you really think we need to bring someone else in,,,Fine,,, it's just that Green isn't the one I'd choose... I like the guy, but the risk isn't worth the reward for him.
Now back to you downplaying the head trauma,,, No way man,,, that's serious stuff and you make it sound like he bumped his head... Not accurate at all man,,, not at all!
Go google Concussion and look around,, you wil be amazed... If you still think that it's no biggy,,, then I don't know what to tell you,,,,
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Can't do a thing about the first two items, but maybe he'll come down from that 6 or 7 million contract he has now.
That is the reason KC is shopping him to begin with... NO team in their right mind would take him for what KC is wanting (2nd rder) and be willing to take on that salary to boot...
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I guess if it's a 7th rounder,,, ok,,but on the radio a moment ago, it was reported that Miami offered a 7th and KC rejected... I can't verify that because like I said, it was on the radio,,,might show up in print soon so I'll be watching.
It is one of the articles on this thread... Hell it may even be in the article I posted on Pg. 4... At any rate, it is in print and somewhere on this thread...
Another thing Daman and this is more for the benefit of Pitt than you but the "unmobile" Trent Green was doing a QB slide after scrambling when he got knocked in the head... You may remember it as it was all over Sportscenter for several days... He isn't quite the "statue" that some claim him to be... But he will never be mistaken for Ron Mexico either..
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I think at most it is just preliminary discussions for possible draft day action.
Basically, each side is just figuring out where the other side is on the issue and whether or not the parameters of the thing might possibly match up at some point during the draft for some action. e.g. KC wants to move up and swap places with us in the 3rd round. They trade us Green and their 3rd for our 3rd sort of thing.
I could very easily be wrong, but based on how totally non-commital all of the quotes are to this point, which by the way at best merely suggest that a conversation did occur, I would speculate that any conversations thus far are of the "fact-finding" nature and not any serious pursuit or negotiation.
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And you know, I could truly see it going NO further than this but I am encouraged that Phil atleast did some sniffing around...
I would LOVE to have him as evidenced by my posts but at the same time, a heavy dose of realism says he isn't worth what KC wants in return at this point... As things near the draft more, KC will start to hit panic mode when they see no team is willing to pay the asking price and in the end, I see them getting nothing higher than a 4th for him... JMHO
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To give up even a third rounder and pay BIG BUCKS to a 37 year old QB?
Seems to me that the only person talking about giving up a 3rd rounder is you my friend
So what if the Chiefs want a 2nd? They won't get it Green can be had for a 4th or 5th. I've no idea where you got the 3rd rounder from.
And what big bucks? Nobody is going to pay him $7.2 million this year. We certainly won't. $2-$3 million with incentives based on playing time seems far more reasonable and is probably closer to the mark. If he earns $4-$5 million because he had a mid 80's passer rating with 20 TD's and 13 INT's it'd be a smashing success.
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But in combination with his being 37,having to give a first day pick,high salary? I count the "eight week" concussion into the equasion. You honestly don't? And the 2-3 record upon his return?
We've allready addressed the pay and age. Repeating it doesn't make it more relevent, hehe.
Wait, maybe I haven't addressed the age thing with you. He didn't start a game until he was 28, and before the concussion, he hadn't missed a game in over 5 seasons. Green hasn't lost anything that he didn't have 5 years ago.
Now I gotta throw the flag on the 2-3 record.
Green lost to us. But did you look at his numbers? 24 of 32 for 297 4 TD's and 1 INT. Yeah, it was his fault
Then he had consecutive losses to Baltimore and San Diego. He didn't play perticularly well in either game, but those were two very good teams. The Chargers sacked him SIX TIMES. 
I won't judge a pro-bowl QB based on a return from a concussion when it's the first action he's missed in six seasons. I think you're hanging your hat on the suggestion that the concussion has ruined his ability to play the position, and I simply can't agree with it. He has a long track record of being a really good QB. Could the concussion lead to problems? Sure it could, but it's ONE concussion. He's been cleared to play and has no ill effects from it. He's got a clean bill of health, and that's good enough for me.
So in summary, we WOULDN'T pay him big bucks unless he earned it through incentives: CHECK
He didn't start his first game until he was 28, so while he's going to be 37, there's been no dropoff in his game because he hasn't taken punishment for 15 seasons: CHECK
Concussion. It was a big one, but it was JUST one. He's showing no lingering effects and has been cleared to play. I don't see a legitimate concern that isn't there for any other player in the league: CHECK
Offensive line: It's improved and is no longer a seive, Joe Thomas or otherwise. The condition of the line can NEVER preclude a team from trying to upgrade the QB position. Hell, if the line isn't improved, we might as well not try and upgrade any of the positions. It just doesn't matter
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We'd be foolish to trade for Green without getting him to re-structure his contract first. Let's face it, if KC is going to go with Croyle or Huard as their starter next season, THEY will have to re-structure his contract or cut him outright at some point if they don't find some sucker to trade for him. If the Chiefs aren't blowing smoke where Green is concerned, he may well be a June 1 cut. I'd wait this one out unless Green is willing to re-do his deal to be a starter here.
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More fuel.... http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6626586 Green got his clock cleaned by Cincinnati lineman Robert Geathers on opening day and didn't suit up for the next eight weeks. But Green, with his precise, strong arm and great leadership skills, is a quarterback that can still make a difference. But with Damon Huard re-signed in Kansas City and Brodie Croyle waiting in the wings, there's no room for Green and his $7.2 million price tag for this season. Let's examine the possibilities for Green this season. Miami This is Green's choice. The Kansas City Star reports that a financial agreement with the Dolphins has been reached in principle if the teams can work out a trade. That's easier said than done. Kansas City wants a second-round pick in the upcoming draft; Miami is willing to give up a very late day 2 selection. With Daunte Culpepper and Cleo Lemon on the roster, and David Carr available via free agency, don't expect the Dolphins to budge. Remember, Carr played for Dom Capers in Houston and they enjoyed a great relationship. Capers now runs the Miami defense. Green is very familiar with new Dolphins coach Cam Cameron and offensive assistant Terry Shea. And since Steiner and the Fish have agreed to a deal in principle, Green could force his hand if it's Miami or bust. Cleveland
Green is the ideal fit in Cleveland. He would aid the Browns in 2007 and beyond.
Browns GM Phil Savage should do whatever it takes to get him.
The Browns are one of three teams in the NFL that don't have a top 40 quarterback on their roster.
And Cleveland knows what Green can do. He torched the Browns for 297 yards and four TDs last year in week 13.
This doesn't mean Charlie Frye cannot develop, but his redzone mistakes were catastrophic last year. Learning under a veteran like Green would go a long way. Frye would be much better option for the 2008 or 2009 Browns.
I am not going to get delusional here and predict the playoffs, but seven wins is possible with Green.
But Cleveland is much better with Jamal Lewis, Eric Steinbach, Shaun Smith, Robaire Smith, and Antwan Peek. Kamerion Wimbley and D'Qwell Jackson are going to blossom into stars.
Green would also be a stabilizing presence for talented players that can be a tad unfocused (yes, that's Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow Jr.)
Then the Browns can spend the third overall pick on either Thomas or Adrian Peterson.
I would trade a fourth or fifth rounder for Green right now if I'm Cleveland.
Detroit This makes no sense. I know Mike Martz and Green know each other well from their days in St. Louis, but you still have Josh McCown rotting away on the bench. And Rod Marinelli remains married to Jon Kitna. So even though reports say Matt Millen has called Peterson, I don't buy Detroit as a legit contender. Kansas City Just a thought -- is it possible Kansas City is making a mistake at the quarterback position? Huard was a model of efficiency replacing Green last year, but is he better for 2007? If Croyle is the quarterback of the future and Herman Edwards is going to give him a chance to win the job this year, would it be better to learn from Green or Huard? Who would win more games this year? I'd take Green.
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This tadpole believes but some just don't like to look at realism... You made a good argument though...
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I think Miami bows out..
Greens best fit is Cleveland..I'm not concerned about the age either..he'll not be here more than 2 years...
They'll restructure his contract ..it gives us a viable presence at QB..
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I don't want to speak for Pit here, but I tend to agree that we've improved on PAPER,,, but until they prove it on the field,, ?
As noted, what the Hell difference does it make? Do we not bring in any QB's until the line proves itself? Might as well not bring in anyone until the line proves it's good.
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Wooo there big fella,,, get down off that horse... Concussions are serious,,,
It's my horse. I'll ride high in the saddle if I want 
Nobody is saying concussions aren't serious. But he was cleared to play!!! They ARE serious and the league won't let players play if they have lingering effects. Check Dan Morgan.
Now if he'd played poorly every single game since he came back I'd have a concern, but he TORCHED us. The games he lost were against the defenses of Jacksonville, Baltimore, and San Diego; a murderers row in this league if there was one.
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Now the final reason to skip Green,,, we gotta give up a pick,,,,
I skipped over money, his age, and the concussion because I've addressed them well allready.
About the pick......so what? You may not be aware that the precentage of 2nd day picks that actually become viable players is in the 10-20% range.  Even then, they don't do much until they are several years into the league.
D, we need help NOW. Nobody is going to give up a 1st day pick for this guy, and there may not be other options out there.
You are right that the Chiefs declined a 7th rounder for him. That's accurate I wouldn't take a 7th for him RIGHT NOW either. If freakin' Schaub is worth $48 million, TWO 2nd round picks and a swap of 1st positions, the Green is worth more than a 7th, hehehe. When I saw he'd first come available I said it'd take a 4th. I still think it'll take that or even a 5th.
Now I BELIEVE you said in one of your posts that the Chiefs said they'd hang onto him if they couldn't trade him. DOOD, what do you EXPECT them to say?
Carl Peterson: "If we cannot trade Trent Green, we have no intention of keeping him. We'll allow him to hit the market so that he can sign with whomever he chooses. Why? Because we're nice like that!"
They didn't give Huard that contract to "compete" with Green
I've said my peace. The money issue is a NON-issue as his contract won't convey. The concussion is a question mark but he was cleared to play by the league. They wouldn't do it unless he was OK, and he did play one good game right after he came back. That tells me he still has it in him. I won't indict the guy because he was sacked six times by the Chargers.
Now if people are afraid of giving up a 4th, ok, I can see that. That's purely an opinion issue in my book. If I could get Green and a couple of 80's rated seasons out of him for a 4th round, I'd do it. Maybe others wouldn't. To each their own. Even then, Green as a veteran backup for another year or two makes him very valuable. Derek Anderson as our backup for the next few years?
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Seriously... Was this guy reading my posts earlier in this thread?? Good article and thanks for sharing...
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Now if people are afraid of giving up a 4th, ok, I can see that. That's purely an opinion issue in my book. If I could get Green and a couple of 80's rated seasons out of him for a 4th round, I'd do it. Maybe others wouldn't
A fourth would be my only argument..a fifth?
Done..I could tolerate a fourth but IMO Phil better find a way to get another fourth out of somebody..
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The games he lost were against the defenses of Jacksonville, Baltimore, and San Diego; a murderers row in this league if there was one......
I won't indict the guy because he was sacked six times by the Chargers.
He also didn't get another concussion in those games. If he was going to re-injure his brain, I think it would have happened against those defenses.
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That's the problem, speculation has them asking for a 2nd or 3rd. 
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Of course..a pro bowl QB..WOULDN'T U try to get the max you could?
I would..see if someone bites..once no one does..Peterson knows whats realistic..a 4th or 5th...and Opie knows Green's agent..so that could play a factor too..
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Pro Bowl Schmol Bowl
the guy is 37 years old.
and coming off a huge concussion.
But I agree, they should try to ge tthe most possible.
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What the heck do you guys want? " HE'S 37..HE HAD A CONCUSSION''..  Here's a hanky  There is no perfect vet QB the Browns can get a sniff at.. No one is touching Carr yet..wanna talk about damaged goods? At 37 people know Trent can QB..Carr may be so damaged psychologically that his head might take a few years to come around..
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I skipped over money, his age, and the concussion because I've addressed them well allready.
You have addressed them, but I won't go as far as to say your right,, cause I don't think you are.. But that's for another day and another beer,, LOL
Oh,, what did you name your horse....... I bet it's not Charlie (get it,, Charlie horse ,,,,,,,damn I'm funny  )
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So in summary, we WOULDN'T pay him big bucks unless he earned it through incentives: CHECK
That sounds dandy! But uh,how many "reasonable deals" for QB's have you seen when more than one team shows interest in a starting veteran QB? You make it sound like we're the only one in the market for Green and we can just name our price. Not so lilly pad hopper! Uncheck.
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He didn't start his first game until he was 28, so while he's going to be 37, there's been no dropoff in his game because he hasn't taken punishment for 15 seasons: CHECK
So you're saying your bones are less brittle,your reaction times are the same,and you're just as likely NOT to get injurred at 37 years old as you are at 25 years old because you weren't a starter untill you were 28? Uncheck
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Concussion. It was a big one, but it was JUST one. He's showing no lingering effects and has been cleared to play. I don't see a legitimate concern that isn't there for any other player in the league: CHECK
Have you ever seen doctors reccomendations for further physical activities and head trauma,and why that is once you've had a "big one"? You might wish to take a glance at that before you go any further along these lines. Uncheck.
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Offensive line: The condition of the line can NEVER preclude a team from trying to upgrade the QB position.
I don't disagree with you there. The question is,is this an upgrade or a high stakes gamble?
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The only gamble I see is if they bring Green in, and let Frye go with no new young QB of the future brought in..
That is the only senero that would be stupid ....
Now if they draft Russell/Quinn and Frye is dealt ,with Green as the vet thats different..
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I wouldn't take a 7th for him RIGHT NOW either. If freakin' Schaub is worth $48 million, TWO 2nd round picks and a swap of 1st positions, the Green is worth more than a 7th, hehehe.
That's what a back-up with 6 wins under his belt got. But you claim we can get Green with a fourth or fith rounder,at 2-3 mil with incentives? On the cheap? Sounds like you've just defeated your own arguement to me!
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Well Pit, at least for me, I think Trent Green is an upgrade over Frye and it would give Frye that veteran presence to learn from again rather than being thrown to the wolves. If we can give him a vet to learn from while improving the line over the next year or two he may stand a better chance of making it eventually. And Green, may play well here (might not but it wouldn't hurt to try if the compensation to get him is low) for all we know. He has been a very steady and solid QB for years.
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Let me clarify something..................
IF we can get him for 2.5 mil or less a season?
IF we can put the rest in incentives?
IF we can get him for minimal garunteed money?
IF we can get him for a fifth rounder or less?
Fine...................
But as Toad (thanks Toad) aptly pointed out,Schaub,an unproven starter in this league,cost 2 second rounders and 48 mil.
What would YOU be willing to pay for Green?
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We are still in good cap shape so the money itself isn't as big of a concern for me. Trip and Phil will know what they could budget without hurting the team. Ken Dorsey's base salary is almost a million for 2007 and he would no doubt be cut if we brought in Green. So say the figure was 4 million per year over 3 years (base + spread out guaranteed money) it would really be 3 this year since we're losing Dorsey's contract. As far as compensation, I would be willing to part with somewhere in the neighborhood of a 4th or 5th rounder. Definately not a 1st day pick. If that couldn't get it done, then I would pass. Just my dime, nickle and penny.
The Schaub situtation is much different though, he was a highly sought after young QB that many GMs thought very high of. Green is aging and doesn't have the same value at all. KC will be lucky to get a 2nd day pick for him at this point.
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But as Toad (thanks Toad) aptly pointed out,Schaub,an unproven starter in this league,cost 2 second rounders and 48 mil.
What would YOU be willing to pay for Green?
Shaub was slapped with the high tender, was Green also?
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This seems to be the only appropriate place to post this rant so here it is........
I literally just woke up from a dream I had this afternoon. During this dream I found myself watching the Browns on Opening Day and I was entirely pissed off. Why??? Because Chuck Frye was getting killed behind his line. They had Tucker starting at guard and the anouncers were ripping on him that "he was just like a turnstile--letting defenders go by."
It was horrible, right before I woke Frye unleashed this long throw to a receiver he had deep. For some reason the receiver was Brodney Pool---a DB--and it went right off his finger tips. Which had everyone moaning about--"Why the hell did we have a DB in the game running a deep route on offense."
Overall Frye went 11 for 27 and was sacked five times. I woke up about 30 minutes ago and I'm still shaking---I hope this isn't some cruel sign of things to come.
--DERDEN
I wish to wash my Irish wristwatch......
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Still on them damn drugs before bedtime Tyler,...
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Let me clarify something..................
IF we can get him for 2.5 mil or less a season?
IF we can put the rest in incentives?
IF we can get him for minimal garunteed money?
IF we can get him for a fifth rounder or less?
Fine...................
But as Toad (thanks Toad) aptly pointed out,Schaub,an unproven starter in this league,cost 2 second rounders and 48 mil.
What would YOU be willing to pay for Green?
But here's the big thing that makes Green more affordable, and it's exactly what you say against him.
He's 37 and he had a concussion.
Schaub got a big deal cuz he's entering his prime. I personally think it's an awful move by the Texans, but whatever.
It's common sense that KC is not gonna get something high for a QB with only a year or two's worth of tread on the tires.
I think we'll see something similar to the Dilfer deal, 4th rounder. That is if we go after him. If we do and decide to draft another QB, it's the perfect scenario. Green is a class act through and through and unlike other mentor(s) we've had here, he's actually produced in his career.
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But here's the big thing that makes Green more affordable, and it's exactly what you say against him.
He's 37 and he had a concussion.
Ammo my friend,,, that is bassackwards thinking man,,,, That's just WRONG
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Shaub was slapped with the high tender, was Green also?
Well,his current contract pays him in excess of 15 mil over the next two years. If more than one team is trying to acquire his services,how much cheaper than that will you think he can be signed for?
According to Toad,6 mil over two years. That's a ten million dollar paycut. You really think we can sign a veteran starting NFL QB to that in a bidding war between 2 or three teams? Seriously now..........
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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I have to say as well what is up with "frye needs a experience vet to help him learn" stuff? I mean really isn't that a coaches job? I think the vet QB thing is way over-rated. Maybe for a first year rookie, but Charlie is beyond that. What would a vet QB do that a coach can't? Why pay a QB coach at all? Just sign Green. I mean really. 
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I think that for the most part, that's probably a valid thought,, but just to let you know, it's worked before with Dilfer in Seattle mentoring Hassleback,
I think it went something like, Dilfer won the job over Hassleback,, played some, got injured, Hassleback came in did a decent job,,, Dilfer I think won the job the next year but again got injured.... Hassleback came in and never lost the job again,, Dilfer was then traded to Cleveland to do pretty much the same thing as he did in Seattle.
So, it can work,,
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Dilfer was then traded to Cleveland to do pretty much the same thing as he did in Seattle.
So, it can work,,
And it has worked out so well for us too... 
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we will never know,, will we,, he was only here for one turbulent year,,,
but it worked ok in seattle,,,
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