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Out with the old, in with the new.
Would have liked him to remain as a special-teamer, but not as a WR. With fading skills and a mouth that won't stay shut it's probably time for him to find a new home.
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I totally could see Pats wanting him...
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If they think they can replace Welker with Cribbs they are seriously mistaken...
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Just cause the Patriots are interested in him doesn't mean he's a legit WR.
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Fox Sports is reporting that Cribbs is leaning towards signing with the Cardinals.
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After reading some of the comments in this thread, I finally understand why this team continues to lose...the folks talking bad about Cribbs, wanting him run out of town, YOUR the reason this team has stunk for the last decade +
If this is the attitude of this city towards indisputablethe BEST player in franchise history since the days of jim Brown, and Kelly...well then this team deserves to lose.
I am embarrassed that people would even think such things let alone say them about josh Cribbs.
Josh Cribbs IS THE CLEVELAND BROWNS.He is the only player we have had that epitomized what it means to be a Cleveland Brown...Cribbs is the ONLY guy since the return that even deserves to stand next to guys like Jim Brown, Metcalf, Graham, Newsome and others...Cribbs is the ONLY ONE who even belongs let alone be mentioned in the same sentence. Some of you folks just don't get it....if we had 11 more Josh Cribbs clones....this team would be AFC North champs year after year....
turning your backs on a player like Cribbs is just insane.....he has done more for this city, for its fans then anyone...and he is the only player that we have had since the return that even deserves to stand let alone be mentioned in the same breath as the Great Ones and you alk about him like that?
your whining because a guy wants to play...he wants to win...he wants to help his team? you folks really need to get off this political correct horse crap...because that's what it is....I would question a players spirit and willingness to win if he didn't want in the game every play....who cares if he says stuff to the media about it...it just shows the guy wants to win more then anything else....he sure wants to win a lot more then the rest of these bums we have put out since the return.
Lets see here..Cribbs is:
Cribbs Browns Franchise Records
Most career Kickoff return yards (8,837)
Most career combined Kickoff and Punt return yards (10,534)
Most career All-purpose yards (12,343)
Most kickoff return yards in a single season: 1,809 (2007)
Most kickoff return touchdowns in a single season: 3 (2009)
Most All-purpose yards in a single season: 2,510 (2009)
Most career combined Kickoff and Punt return touchdowns
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Most career Kickoff Return Touchdowns: 8 (tied with Leon Washington)
Two kickoff return touchdowns of 100 yards or more in a single game (tied with Ted Ginn Jr.)
Most kickoff return touchdowns in a single game: 2 (tied with 9 others)
you name me one oher player that has done ANYTHING for this god forsaken team in the last decade plus....come on...the rest of the team has been BUMS in comparison....and people want to say bad things about Josh Cribbs.....
bleh.....Josh Cribbs IS the Cleveland Browns....he is the only player outside of our kicker Dawson that even belongs on this team...the only one who even deserves to wear the Brown and Orange colors...the only guy who deserves to even be mentioned among the greats...and folks want to throw him away and he is only going to be 30....unreal...
Cribbs should retire a Brown....he IS the Cleveland Browns for the last decade because we have had no one else.....josh Cribbs = The Browns Ray Lewis....ask anyone outside of Cleveland about the Browns...folks that aren't hardcore fans...and the first name they say is "Oh you guys have josh Cribbs"
Josh Cribbs will have his name enshrined in Canton as one of the greatest players in Browns history...and its a shame the way folks are talking about him...I fully believe in karma....and I now understand why this team sucks....this city is full of venom towards a man that has done nothing but good things for it...
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After reading some of the comments in this thread, I finally understand why this team continues to lose...the folks talking bad about Cribbs, wanting him run out of town, YOUR the reason this team has stunk for the last decade +
Yep thats the reason 
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The vast majority of Browns fans have nothing but the utmost respect for Cribbs and the contributions that he has made to the team and the city during his tenure in Cleveland. I don't pretend to understand why Banner and Lombardi are seemingly refusing to bring back Cribbs and Dawson, who are arguably the best players since the return of the team in 1999. However, I think that it is very inappropriate to curse an entire fan base based on the comments of a few people.
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Josh Cribbs IS the Cleveland Browns
Phil Dawson, not Josh Cribbs, is the real Cleveland Brown. Phil's been with us since the return, never runs his mouth about his "role" on the team, doesn't have a crazy agent, and is more about the team than himself.
Sorry Knight, I think you're a bit love struck with Cribbs.
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YOUR the reason this team has stunk for the last decade
YOU'RE delusional. Get. Help. Now.
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When you put Cribbs in the same sentence as Jim Brown you lost all credibility.
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After reading some of the comments in this thread, I finally understand why this team continues to lose...the folks talking bad about Cribbs, wanting him run out of town, YOUR the reason this team has stunk for the last decade +
Yep thats the reason
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I don't know... I for one love and respect Cribbs. IMO, he's poured his heart out. And has treated this town good. I just don't think Banner will resign him when I am sure they are considering Travis as the returner.
Shame, but I just don't see Cribbs getting another extension... with that said, I hope he goes to a good team and gets to see what winning consistently feels like.
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You must have missed his tweets dropping f-bombs on Browns fans that were critical of his play.
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+1 Good post.
Was Cribbs on the same level as Brown no but who will be. He gave his all and never embarassed us off the feild and did a lot for the community. I understand its a business decision, but we should be thanking Cribbs for what he has done for us and wishing him luck if he has indeed played his last game as a Brown.
Sometimes I wish fans would show a little more class.
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YOUR the reason this team has stunk for the last decade +
The fact that a special teams player is our best player for the past decade is much more of a reason for stinking.
Oh, and you got the wrong special teamer. Dawson for the win!
(Joe Thomas is clearly the best player we've had since the return/30+ years)
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You must have missed his tweets dropping f-bombs on Browns fans that were critical of his play.
I said it before and it looks like I will say it again. The Browns are stupid if they didn't sign Cribbs to a 2 or 3 year contract for 1.5 million per year.
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You must have missed his tweets dropping f-bombs on Browns fans that were critical of his play.
And thats why athletes need to stay away from social networking.
Im starting to see a trend. Lets see Cribbs, Albert Belle, Braylon Edwards, DA, Lebron, seems like a lot of Cleveland athletes have this problem. Maybe its time we start looking in the mirror.
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I don't know how to post something without looking like I'm quoting or replying to someone but here goes my opinion on the topic.
Personally, I think Cribbs is still very valuable for the position he plays. He's maybe lost .5% of his abilities due to age but that's it. The things that have hurt Josh are the loss of Brad Sealy, the ST coach and moving the kick off line up 5 yards.
Benjamin will be a fine punt returner but I think he's kinda small to be returning kicks. One serious bump from a big gunner and that guy's going spinning off into the stands. Josh has more size and he's plenty fast enough (as we've seen) to still do the job.
How many returns did he have called back last year even if they weren't all the way to the house but still would've given us great field position? Plenty.
$1.5 mil is very good money for a guy who doesn't see the field that often but does give us a distinct advantage when he does.
Could we be a little 'over attached' to him? Perhaps, he was one of the only bright spots on the team and then the whole paydaman thing we were all in his corner for. But for what he can still mean (and I think he'd be a great change of pace scat back, out of the backfield receiver) I think he should be retained.
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Cribbs has lost at least a step or two in every aspect of his limited game. Add in he's been bounced around more than a a drunk sorority girl at a Sigma Chi party, and I don't forget his cry baby rant several years back to get his now expired contract.
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Unless I am responding to someone in particular, (like I am to you) I just click on the final post in the thread to reply.
If I am making a more confrontational statement, but not necessarily directly to the last poster, then I preface it with "NRTU", or that I am making a general comment.
As far as returns, I would suspect that we are going to have to draft a WR, in addition to probably adding one through free agency. We will lose Cribbs and Massaquoi. Without them we have Little, Gordon, Benjamin, Cooper, and Norwood. I would expect us to keep either Cooper or Norwood, but not both. That leaves us 2 openings.
I would also expect us to try and find a speedy 3rd down type back, and that guy could also be a kickoff returner.
We have options that go way beyond Cribbs. A huge part of Cribbs' value was not only as a return man, but also as a coverage guy on special teams. I recently read an article that he had dropped well down the leader list for tackles on special teams behind Bademosi and others. If he is "just" a returner, and not that all around tremendous special teams player, then his value is greatly diminished. I don't see us paying huge dollars, or even "somewhat reasonable" type money for a guy who is only going to be a returner.
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While your post is a bit overzealous, I agree with the premise and have voiced that on here before.
I'm embarrassed to be a Browns fan when on this board and other boards so many so easily rip into a player that played his arse off every single minute he was on the field and embraced the city of Cleveland like no other.
Mark my words, if we ever win the Super Bowl ... and if this board is still around ... and if we are all here still posting, someone will be pissed about something ... someone will have a negative thing to say about the coach or the QB or something directly after we win it all.
Some people just aren't happy ... will never be happy ... discontent is their normal. And some people have no perspective at all.
No one wanted to win as bad as Cribbs. So he got a little vocal. Who cares? He gave it all for a city that most shun.
Most of the posts on here about Cribbs make me embarrassed to be a part of this fanbase. Then again, I have an employee who's a Patriot fan who bashes Brady and Bellyache every chance he gets. Maybe 95% of fans are just idiots.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Personally, I have no problem with Cribbs getting ticked off at someone acting like a fool online ...... except that eh should know better.
However, the fact remains that Cribbs has declined as a return man, and as a coverage ace. He has not broken through as a receiver, and if he is declining on special teams, then his value is in decline as well.
Maybe he'll go elsewhere and do well, and if so, then great for him. He's rapidly losing his place here, and he's getting older to boot. He's 30 right now, and he'll be 31 in June. Unfortunately, going by the usual trends, he's due to decline quickly. I would rather that it not be in Cleveland.
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Josh Cribbs is like Omar Vizquel popular amongst Indians fans, I mean he went to the cavs draft lottery rocking a cavs jersey! He represents cleveland so well, and it couldn't be more genuine.
Some may feel that his skill set could be better used elsewhere, where someone will pay him more money. I know I'll be upset if he leaves, but I'll understand.
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Personally, I have no problem with Cribbs getting ticked off at someone acting like a fool online ...... except that eh should know better.
However, the fact remains that Cribbs has declined as a return man, and as a coverage ace. He has not broken through as a receiver, and if he is declining on special teams, then his value is in decline as well.
Maybe he'll go elsewhere and do well, and if so, then great for him. He's rapidly losing his place here, and he's getting older to boot. He's 30 right now, and he'll be 31 in June. Unfortunately, going by the usual trends, he's due to decline quickly. I would rather that it not be in Cleveland.
j/c
I got lambasted last year for saying that we should have gotten rid of him/traded him 1-2 years because of these reason and his injuries have slowed him down. Plus, he doesn't play with reckless abandon anymore. He plays to not get hurt.
We really need (as a team) to learn when a player is at their peak and when they are on the downside of their career.
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I think last time I voiced my opinion on this you might have had a similar response.
The bashing of Cribbs and whether Cribbs should stay on this team are two exclusive thoughts. Don't confuse the two.
If the powers that be do not want to sign Cribbs or believe he has a place on this team moving forward, then so be it. As a fan, I will be disappointed because a) I disagree that Cribbs is in decline at the rate many suggest and b) because I value players like Cribbs who always give there all, want to win badly, and embrace the team the way he has. But I would respect the decision and even understand it.
But the bashing on here often times has nothing to do with the question of whether or not he should remain on this team. It's either about his mouth or his perceived "laziness" after getting his contract or his diminishing skills. It's said with such vengeance and vitriol that I just don't understand. Does anyone not appreciate anything?
And btw, while Cribbs has definitely lost some speed, he was still an incredibly effective return man this year. Yeah, I would have liked to see him break one, but no one finds creases like he does.
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That's fair enough.
If some fans are offended by what he said, though, that's their right. He didn't offend me ... although I thought that he was stupid to even respond, because it was a no win situation for him.
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When you put Cribbs in the same sentence as Jim Brown you lost all credibility.
I stopped reading his post when he put Metcalf in the same league as Jim Brown....
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Lets see here..Cribbs is:
Cribbs Browns Franchise Records
Most career Kickoff return yards (8,837)
Most career combined Kickoff and Punt return yards (10,534)
Most career All-purpose yards (12,343)
Most kickoff return yards in a single season: 1,809 (2007)
Most kickoff return touchdowns in a single season: 3 (2009)
Most All-purpose yards in a single season: 2,510 (2009)
Most career combined Kickoff and Punt return touchdowns
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Most career Kickoff Return Touchdowns: 8 (tied with Leon Washington)
Two kickoff return touchdowns of 100 yards or more in a single game (tied with Ted Ginn Jr.)
Most kickoff return touchdowns in a single game: 2 (tied with 9 others)
Those are all great stats, and Josh is a good person and a decent player. It's a shame he was never used right other than on special teams but with our coaching carousel who has other than Joe and well he didn't really need that much coaching I am sure. I have nothing against Josh so dont think I am hating on him.
You just listed a lot of stats there but one thing you fail to notice is that they were made almost 5 years ago. Josh is not going to make the roster as a WR. He does not have nearly the explosion he once had when he takes off. Probably because he has learned to protect his body some what. You add in how much the 5 yard rule change has hurt the return game in general and he really isn't worth the roster spot anymore. That's not hate. It's just time to move on and let him finish his career here shining as a former star instead of as a fallen star.
I really wish Josh the best but I dont think he will be able to finish his career as a Brown's player. He still has a fire to play so he will move on but his age and years of hardcore special teams playing has already caught up to him and he will start fading fast in the next year or two. Let the man go make what money he can make and maybe even enjoy a winning season or two. It might just energize him and extend his career a little.
I wish Cribbs the best where ever he plays except when he plays us.
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Why not a sign and trade for Mallett? 
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The thing with Cribbs is that he is a great ST player, but HE thinks and WANTS to play at WR. I would be willing to bet that is the hangup more than the money is. I believe he still has lots of value on ST, but not at the cost of him stirring the pot when he isnt in at WR.
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So let me get this right,, the browns have been losers because of what the fans say?
What in the hell have you been smoking 
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So let me get this right,, the browns have been losers because of what the fans say?
What in the hell have you been smoking
who knows what he is smoking... I've been saying the opposite of this board for a while but it has 0 relevance to what the Cleveland Browns choose to do and I don't think the fans or this board controls anything.
I think the fans see the writing on the wall with JC. He is old, frail, slower, still thinks he can play WR, and ST.
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After reading some of the comments in this thread, I finally understand why this team continues to lose...the folks talking bad about Cribbs, wanting him run out of town, YOUR the reason this team has stunk for the last decade +
So let me get this right,, the browns have been losers because of what the fans say?
What in the hell have you been smoking
who knows what he is smoking... I've been saying the opposite of this board for a while but it has 0 relevance to what the Cleveland Browns choose to do and I don't think the fans or this board controls anything.
I think the fans see the writing on the wall with JC. He is old, frail, slower, still thinks he can play WR, and ST.
Well, I love Cribbs, I'd love for him to retire a Brown,, but even I have to admit, you have to move away from players as they age. Their past performance notwithstanding, it's all about whats ahead.
If you look at a player and see the end is near, do you plunk down a chunk of money for what really is nothing more then sentimental reasons, or do you use that money to go out and get a guy that upgrades the team?
As discouraging as it is for me to see him go (if indeed he goes), I'm ready to move past him. We have several guys that can do the return jobs he handled. We may miss him as a gunner, but we won't miss him as a receiver.
So, just so we're clear, my remarks to KoB are not at all reflective my thoughts on Cribbs, but they do ask why he thinks the fans have any real say in what the Browns record is..
He hasn't been signed by anyone yet but I think someone will take a look at him.
The other thing that always bugged me about Cribbs is his mouth.. Josh, let your agent do the talking.. you stay home and play with the kids and let him earn his percentage.
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Nevermind...my post went completely over many's heads...
If folks can't see how the behavior of a very large sect of our fans has effected this organization and players in a negative manner, then I am wasting my time trying to help you see it.
The fanbase has the ability to effect the hearts and minds of the players....these guys are not just out there playing for paycheck, they are playing for YOU, for this city, for these colors.....when you treat your own like used garbage...it creeps into the backs of the minds of others....confidence breeds confidence...despair breeds despair....if you can't see it...your blind...and im no eye doctor. It is what it is...
I am happy with the guys we have signed so far. I just hope for once the fans could stay positive and really watch something special being cultivated here.
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I am wasting my time trying to help you see it.
Thanks for the help 
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