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This is a good start, but I sure wish that it wasn't a secondary offense for adults. No one needs to be texting while they are driving. The risk to other people on the road is too great. People can wait to get to their destinations before sending that urgent "lol", or "c u l8r".  Ticketing begins on state law prohibiting cellphone use by young drivers: Road Rant | cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com/roadrant/index....#incart_m-rpt-2Ticketing begins today on a state law that orders young drivers to put down their cellphones. The regulation prohibits 16- and 17-year-old motorists from using any mobile communications device. That means no chatting on a cellphone while in the driver's seat. No texting or emailing or scrolling on an iPad, either . . . even if it is while sitting at a red light, according to the Ohio Department of Public Safety. The statute also makes it illegal for adult drivers to read, write and send text messages. State legislators approved the ban last summer after lengthy deliberation. Enforcement follows a six-month warning period. Texting while driving is classified as a secondary offense for adults. That means adults can only be ticketed for it after being pulled over for another traffic violation, such as speeding or running a red light. (The state's seatbelt law works the same way.) A ticket for the minor misdemeanor could result in a fine of up to $150. The rule book is tougher on the youngsters. The state made the law a primary offense for drivers under the age of 18, meaning they can be stopped by law enforcement officers if seen using a prohibited electronic device. (There are exclusions for emergency situations.) These first-time violators can lose their license for 60 days and be fined $150. Get caught again and the suspension extends to one year and the fine hits $300. "It's pretty clear," said Lt. Anne Ralston, a spokeswoman with the State Highway Patrol. "Their hands need to be on the wheel, and their focus on driving." Ohio is one of 33 states to ban cellphone use by drivers under the age of 18, according to the Governors Highway Safety Association. Thirty-nine state prohibit texting while driving for all motorists. The secondary offense classification on Ohio's texting statute, however, makes it one of the weaker laws in the nation. AAA launched a statewide billboard campaign this week to remind motorists of the new law.
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Yeah, but if it even just stops 5% of people from texting while driving, then it's worthwhile.
They should have made this a primary offense though.
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another instance of an over-reaching government intervention.
making texting illegal while driving is fine by me. and make it for all ages. it's impossible to pay attention to the road while you need to look down at your phone to read or text.
however, this is making ALL cell phone use illegal (for youngsters for now). that's ludicrous as having them talk w/ hands-free devices (voice recognition to call) means that they are taking less attention from the road than it takes to change the radio station.
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It is just amazing to me how many people you see talking on their phones while driving, and I even SEE people texting.
WTH is so imortant that 9 out of 10 drivers have a phone to their ear almost the whole time they drive. hands-free is one thing, but it is still a distraction, but if it's a necessary short call I can deal with hands-free calls. For decades we didn't have the option. Why are the conversations so more important now that they can't wait?
Are both talking to this person and reaching your destination quickly top priorities?
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why do you care if I keep in contact with my family that lives out of state from me for the 30minutes it takes me to drive home from work?
why the hell is that your business if I am using a hands free device and watching the road?
if you can talk to someone who is in the car with you, then you can talk to someone on the phone.
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here is a funny anecdote:
The other day I was on route 11 going north into Ashtabula county. I was behind a car that had an "OBX" sticker in the window and a "coexist" bumper sticker. The car was swerving all over the road. I figured it was some punk kid texting. I got angry and was going to pull up beside them (as dangerous as that was with them swerving) and scowl at them. However when I pulled up, I found out that it wasn't a punk kid at all. It was two old (i mean old) ladies jibber jabbering and the lady driving wasn't even looking at the road. She was looking (and focusing) on her friend in the passenger seat and was talking using both hands, leaving none on the steering wheel.
But anyway, I am totally against texting and driving. Hands-free calling and driving? I am all for that.
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why do you care if I keep in contact with my family that lives out of state from me for the 30minutes it takes me to drive home from work?
why the hell is that your business if I am using a hands free device and watching the road?
if you can talk to someone who is in the car with you, then you can talk to someone on the phone.
Seems to me I've seen reports that driving while talking on the phone impairs your driving ability about the same amount as driving legally "drunk"....(.08 BAC). The reports stated that driving while talking on the phone changes your visual distance point to just over the hood of your car. At least, that's what I remember reading.
How long will it be before talking with a fellow passenger is outlawed? How long before listening to music is outlawed - because those both distract the driver.
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Seems a lot of people feel they are good at multitasking. However, over the years, multiple studies have demonstrated just how poor we really are at it.
This law makes perfect sense. The fewer distractions we have in the car, the safer we'll all be. I'd actually be OK with an outright ban on cell phone use in the car. If it's so important to take or make a phone call, pull off the road and do so safely.
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I'd like to know the science before I would support any government oversight. From what I understand cell phone use is similar to drunk driving and tiredness in terms of accident causing. But I don't have studies on hand to verify that. My question would be, how many more accidents does that cause than usual? Should I care? Granted I drive a motorbike in thailand, it isn't exactly easy to text while driving one handed, but I do see people on cell phones 
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They should be able to pistol whip the offending driver before giving them a ticket . If there is one thing in the world that makes me literally want to ram someone off of the road it is this dumb damn texting .
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So you guys can't even use hands free devices?
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Good start. This is a rare example of a time I wish a law was stricter/tougher. I say as long as you're driving on public roads, paid for with public money, and it's a public safety issue (40,000/year dead in the US from traffic accidents alone, many many more injured and mangled), the government is well within its jurisdiction to make the roads safer.
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My phone has driving mode, it will read me the texts.
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Texting or emailing while driving is pretty unsafe. I don't have a problem with this law at all..
As for talking on a cell phone while driving, I do it all the time. But I have a headset so I still have both hands on the wheel. to me, that's no different than driving down the road and talking with a passenger..
I suppose if you don't have a hands free device, then yeah, might be an issue.
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First off,I could care less if you were to take that phone and shove it up your rectum and internally converse with whomever.
Unfortunately,I and my loved ones have to share the highways with you and the millions of other morons who believe that blathering incessantly is more important than the safety of others.That,makes it my business.
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First off,I could care less if you were to take that phone and shove it up your rectum and internally converse with whomever.
Unfortunately,I and my loved ones have to share the highways with you and the millions of other morons who believe that blathering incessantly is more important than the safety of others.That,makes it my business.
and I never take my eyes off the road, hands off the wheel, and have never had an accident or been close to one.
sorry, but if you outlaw talking on the cell phone, then you need to outlaw having kids in the car (way more distracting) or talking to friends/spouse in the passenger seats.
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I have to take my eyes off the road to look at the speedometer, those should be banned as well.
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 and I took a link at the study that arch shared. i'll admit it is interesting. however, it goes back to a series of studies on the human brain. it is all based on the fact that the human brain has a tough time seeing and hearing at the same time. basically, you never are actually doing both at the same time and it only appears that you are because it is switching back and forth very quickly. however, the whole study is flawed for the real world experience. on one hand, you have people who are only seeing. on the other you have people who are talking/listening (hands-free). so, it is only really saying that it is much safer if you have a completely silent car while driving. so, everyone, please rip our your stereos, enforce silence on passengers, and ensure that things are as quiet as possible while you drive in silence.
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So you guys can't even use hands free devices?
Adults can. Children under 18 cannot.
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and I took a link at the study that arch shared. i'll admit it is interesting. however, it goes back to a series of studies on the human brain.
it is all based on the fact that the human brain has a tough time seeing and hearing at the same time. basically, you never are actually doing both at the same time and it only appears that you are because it is switching back and forth very quickly.
however, the whole study is flawed for the real world experience. on one hand, you have people who are only seeing. on the other you have people who are talking/listening (hands-free). so, it is only really saying that it is much safer if you have a completely silent car while driving.
so, everyone, please rip our your stereos, enforce silence on passengers, and ensure that things are as quiet as possible while you drive in silence.
No Lo.. it's simple, you gotta be a damn fool to text or email and drive. It's as simple as that.
this law doesn't stop adults from talking on the phone but it's only wise to have a hands free device to use.
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Adults can. Children under 18 cannot.
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it's simple, you gotta be a damn fool to text or email and drive. It's as simple as that.
this law doesn't stop adults from talking on the phone but it's only wise to have a hands free device to use.
no doubt. any activity that requires you take your eyes and/or hands away from where they should be is dangerous. no doubt about it.
this law is the stepping stone towards making it illegal for all "hands-free" or not. you can see from the tone in this thread that it is the direction we are headed. and, that is my worry.
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so, everyone, please rip our your stereos, enforce silence on passengers, and ensure that things are as quiet as possible while you drive in silence.
While you are at it, board up all drive thru windows, no eating or drinking... no morning coffee... no changing the radio station or adjusting the heating/cooling...
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As for talking on a cell phone while driving, I do it all the time. But I have a headset so I still have both hands on the wheel.
You actually drive with both hands on the wheel?
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Now if we can only take old people's licenses the roads can be safe.
My 88 year old grandmother just took and passed her written exam last week. They renewed her license until 2018. She did not have to take a behind the wheel exam. She was the worse driver I have ever been in the car with 20 years ago.
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your not getting my license yet you young whipper snapper lol
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My 88 year old grandmother just took and passed her written exam last week. They renewed her license until 2018. She did not have to take a behind the wheel exam. She was the worse driver I have ever been in the car with 20 years ago.
Here's a funny (scary?) story that I personally witnessed last time I renewed my driver's license. I walk in, grab a ticket, and take a seat on the bench near the counter area by the vision machine. An elderly couple is getting their paperwork or whatever done, person behind the desk tells the guy to look into the vision machine. This guy must have been blind, like randomly guessing at letters. Every time he got one right the assistant and his wife would coax him along and after several minutes of building 1 letter at a time, he 'passed'.
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why do you care if I keep in contact with my family that lives out of state from me for the 30minutes it takes me to drive home from work?
why the hell is that your business if I am using a hands free device and watching the road?
if you can talk to someone who is in the car with you, then you can talk to someone on the phone.
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WTH is so imortant that 9 out of 10 drivers have a phone to their ear almost the whole time they drive. hands-free is one thing, but it is still a distraction
And as a motorcyclist, I have seen just as many hands-free callers cut me off, as just idiot drivers, because they are not focused on traffic AROUND them , just in front of them.
Personally I am against the government telling us what we can and can't do, but sadly too many people lack common courtesy and common sense, so we legistalate to mitigate stupidty
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why do you care if I keep in contact with my family that lives out of state from me for the 30minutes it takes me to drive home from work?
why the hell is that your business if I am using a hands free device and watching the road?
if you can talk to someone who is in the car with you, then you can talk to someone on the phone.
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WTH is so imortant that 9 out of 10 drivers have a phone to their ear almost the whole time they drive. hands-free is one thing, but it is still a distraction
And as a motorcyclist, I have seen just as many hands-free callers cut me off, as just idiot drivers, because they are not focused on traffic AROUND them , just in front of them.
Personally I am against the government telling us what we can and can't do, but sadly too many people lack common courtesy and common sense, so we legistalate to mitigate stupidty
Like helmet laws...
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it's simple, you gotta be a damn fool to text or email and drive. It's as simple as that.
this law doesn't stop adults from talking on the phone but it's only wise to have a hands free device to use.
no doubt. any activity that requires you take your eyes and/or hands away from where they should be is dangerous. no doubt about it.
this law is the stepping stone towards making it illegal for all "hands-free" or not. you can see from the tone in this thread that it is the direction we are headed. and, that is my worry.
People dying in America from hunger. Veterans living on the street, familes homeless, gas prices through the roof, our elected officials are idiots, we have people that want us dead,, not because of guys like you and me, but because of the policies of those very same idiot elected officials..
And you are worried about what MIGHT HAPPEN with your right to drive and talk on the phone?
There is plenty of time to worry about that.. Try worrying about what's here right now.
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People can complain all they want about phones and texting or whatever - if they want the roads safer ban kids and dogs in the car/truck/van too.
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I think they should ban women putting on make-up while driving! I was driving the other day and this woman driver was swerving all over the place... darn near made me spill my cheerios 
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People can complain all they want about phones and texting or whatever - if they want the roads safer ban kids and dogs in the car/truck/van too.
I would be curious to see what studies have to say about driving with passengers. Regardless, driving kids or other passengers around is a pretty necessary thing in many peoples' lives. Texting while driving..... isn't.
Personally I would rather the points system be a little tougher. If you get 12 points on your license in a 2 year period, you are well past the point of driving like an idiot. Bring that down to 8 points, make texting while driving a 4 point infraction, talking on your cell phone a 2 point infraction (probably with an exception for hands-free like North Royalton has), and I bet there are a lot less crazies swerving around out there.
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If people are found guilty of traffic offenses related to being distracted while driving then sentence them to have their vehicles installed with a governor that will kick in at 25mph.
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There is a law here in California that says you can't drive with your dog on your lap. I hate that crap.
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Personally I would rather the points system be a little tougher. If you get 12 points on your license in a 2 year period, you are well past the point of driving like an idiot. Bring that down to 8 points, make texting while driving a 4 point infraction, talking on your cell phone a 2 point infraction (probably with an exception for hands-free like North Royalton has), and I bet there are a lot less crazies swerving around out there.
and driving 5 to 10 MPH under the speed limit in the left hand lane should be an automatic 8 points.or make it legal to do a pit maneuver on them to get their butts out of the way 
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The problem with the points is it stops very few people with suspended licenses from driving.
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Well, think about it for a second, I own a 13 lb Bichon.. basically a little white fur ball with eyes. If I had an accident and he was sitting on my lap and the air bag deployed, he'd be dead and I might as well.
So there is some value to that rule.
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