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1. Kansas City Chiefs- Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
2. Jacksonville Jaguars- Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
3. Oakland Raiders- Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
4. Philadelphia Eagles- DeMarcus Milliner, CB, Alabama
5. Detroit Lions- Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
6. Cleveland Browns- Ezekiel Ansah, DE/OLB, BYU
7. Arizona Cardinals- Chance Warmack, G, Alabama
8. Buffalo Bills- Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
9. New York Jets- Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
10. Tennessee Titans- Sheldon Richardson, DE/DT, Missouri

I have Star slipping because of his heart. Jarvis slipping because of his neck.

All 3 OTs will go top 10 + Floyd + Ansah + Milliner + Geno + Werner + Jordan + Rhodes...that's my guess...DL, QBs, CBs and OTs are still the high value positions...maybe Lotulelei for one of the last 3 if he checks out medically. I don't see a WR or G in there

I don't have any knowledge of it, but I think Star's heart ends up checking out.

I'm working on a mock right now for my site. Here's my top 10 with essentially the comments I made for it last night. You may think it's ridiculous, but I go off my own rankings:

1. Kansas City Chiefs: 5T/NT Star Lotulelei, Utah
Andy Reid wants to take the best player available and Star's dominance of the LOS and versatility could fit that bill. Couple that with the fact that Reid has drafted DT with his first pick twice as much as the next positions (DE, OG) in his drafts and I think this pick makes a lot of sense

2. Jacksonville Jaguars: DE Ezekiel Ansah, BYU
Ansah is probably the hottest name out there right now and actually has the ability to play either side. They still have Babin, but he's not doing enough for them.

3. Oakland Raiders: SLB Dion Jordan, Oregon
Jordan really doesn't have the bulk to play 3-4 OLB or RE right now. In Oakland, they could draft him and hope he turns into a Julian Peterson-type strongside linebacker. He could play on the strong or weakside as a LB in a 4-3 and is maybe the best candidate in the draft to cover TEs from the LB position.

4. Philadelphia Eagles: RT Eric Fisher, Central Michigan
This could be Joeckel or could be Fisher. He's drafted to fill the RT spot on the Eagles line, but with an eye on LT Jason Peters who is coming off of a torn achilles.

5. Detroit Lions: LE Bjoern Werner, Florida State
I have the Lions taking Werner here because they need two DEs and Werner is a guy who can provide pass rush from the left side. That is tougher to find than a RE who can provide a good rush. There should be good corners available at Detroit's second pick and maybe even their third, so Werner I think would be a smart pick here.

6. Cleveland Browns: CB Dee Milliner, Alabama
This move is dictated by the Browns not having a second round pick and there being so many questions about the available pass rushers. Obviously as Browns fans we know we need a starting CB and edge rushing help, but it looks like all the corners with good size may be gone by our third but there should still be options as 3-4 OLBs.

7. Arizona Cardinals: LT Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
Johnson is my top-rated LT because he has an elite first step off the line. He's strictly a LT though. Bruce Arians has to know that no QB could be successful behind the OL they're parading out there.

8. Buffalo Bills: QB Geno Smith, West Virginia
I think the Bills should be tripping over themselves at this point to turn in the card on Geno, especially in the absence of an elite WR in the draft. I don't think Patterson is the sure thing as is his perception.

9. New York Jets: OLB Damontre Moore, Texas A&M
His combine was a huge headscratcher but his production is undeniable and the Jets currently have zero starting candidates for OLB. Warmack could be a possibility if their RG Brandon Moore is gone.

10. Tennessee Titans: OG Chance Warmack, Alabama
Tennessee knows that the best thing they have going on offense is Chris Johnson and they need to provide better running lanes for him. This is a huge upgrade at OG, but it's an upgrade at RB as well.

I'm hoping to have three rounds up by the end of the weekend, and all seven up before free agency starts.

I just have Patterson as a "wildcard" random pick that usually happens.

Could def happen, that wildcard could be someone like Vaccaro too

best guess before FA:


Kansas City Chiefs NT Star Lotulelei, Utah
Joeckel makes sense except that why not just sign Albert? He's not a great LT, but he's a good one and the team is better overall with Albert+DL. Star is the consensus best DL in this draft and his heart apparently checked out with specialists. Makes sense here.

Jacksonville Jaguars: CB Dee Milliner, Alabama
They need a pass rusher, so Jordan/Ansah/Moore are still in play here. But, can you name a CB that seems a better fit for Gus Bradley's style of defense?

Oakland Raiders: DE Ezekiel Ansah, BYU
They need a pass rusher and let's give them one in the spirit of Al Davis. I honestly don't know how to separate the top pass rushers this year because the ones that have the production have as big of ? as the ones who have the measurables.

Philadelphia Eagles: LB Jarvis Jones, UGa
First surprise of the draft. Chip has said that he believes teams put too much $$ on offense and not enough on defense. He thinks you can scheme an offense to score enough if you have a very good defense. He starts building that with the first surprise pick.

Detroit Lions: OT Joeckel, Texas A&M
They need help on both lines. Here's thinking they want to protect Stafford better. I gave them Johnson over Fisher because he just impressed me every time I saw OU play.

Cleveland Browns: OLB Damontre Moore, Texas A&M
We need a pass rushing OLB. He was so good at A&M, but he failed his combine (pass/fail status is how I view it). If you want to plug in Dion Jordan here, then that's fine with me too.

Arizona Cardinals: OT Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
My biggest hope is that AZ gets antsy about getting one of the top3 OTs and ends up giving us their 2nd to move up to ensure it. But, here there are still 2 on the board.

Buffalo Bills: QB Geno Smith, West Virginia
Fitzpatrick is done in Buffalo. I just don't think they trust him anymore. They need to move on and Geno is a good place to start.

New York Jets: DE Dion Jordan, Oregon
Give them whoever we do not get between Jordan/Moore. Their defense failed them as much as their offense last year.

Tennessee Titans: LE Bjoern Werner, Florida State
Too much value to let him slip through any further.

1. Kansas City Chiefs- Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
2. Jacksonville Jaguars- DeMarcus Milliner, CB, Alabama
3. Oakland Raiders-Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
4. Philadelphia Eagles- Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
5. Detroit Lions- Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida st.
6. Cleveland Browns- Ezekiel Ansah, DE/OLB, BYU
7. Arizona Cardinals-Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
8. Buffalo Bills- Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
9. New York Jets- Matt Barkley, QB, USC
10. Tennessee Titans- Sheldon Richardson, DE/DT, Missouri

1. Kansas City - Geno Smith (I think this pick gets traded)
2. Jacksonville - Demarcus Milliner (Probably a bit high but hard to argue against the value of a good CB)
3. Oakland - Jarvis Jones (They seem like the type to take that risk)
4. Philadelphia - Ezekiel Ansah (Trolling the Browns again?)
5. Detroit - Luke Joeckel (seems like the smart thing to do for a team that has trouble w/ QB protection)
6. CLEVELAND - Dion Jordan (Would love this!)
7. Arizona - Eric Fisher (Seems likely, could also see them moving up to that 1 spot)
8,. Buffalo - Bjoern Werner (Had trouble with this one, maybe they are the team that moves up?)
9. NY Jets - Star Lotulelei (Another team that would take that kind of risk)
10. Tennessee - Chance Warmack (Would love to see the Browns take him, but hard to pass up getting a top shelf pass rusher)

I'm not a guy who does mocks, so this is probably pretty bad. I usually have a good idea like most the week of the draft when things start to leak out about who likes who. I think Matt Barkley's time is still coming. He could get himself back into a high pick with a good pro day. I'm not saying he's that good, I've just seen enough of these things where that stuff does matter and he goes high. If you follow him on twitter, he seems like a pretty good dude, I'm hoping he lands somewhere that suits him well.

1. Chiefs - Fisher
2. Jaguars - Floyd
3. Raiders - Geno Smith
4. Eagles - Joeckel
5. Lions - Milliner
6. Browns - Jordan
7. Cardinals - Lane Johnson
8. Bills - Warmack
9. Jets - Ansah
10. Titans - Werner

I'm going out on a limb here but after his pro day I think Keenan Allen will jump into the top 10.

Moore will not be a top 10 pick. Not with 12 bench reps for DE. Thats very very weak.

Wait for pro day for Moore.

1. Buffalo Bills in trade with Kansas City- QB Geno Smith, West Virginia
2. Jacksonville Jaguars- DE Bjoern Werner, Florida State
3. Oakland Raiders- DE Ziggy Ansah, BYU
4. Philadelphia Eagles- OT Eric Fisher, Central Michigan
5. Detroit Lions- CB Dee Milliner, Alabama
6. San Diego Chargers in trade with Cleveland- OT Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M
7. Arizona Cardinals- Chance Warmack, G, Alabama
8. Kansas City Chiefs in trade with Buffalo, OT Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
9. Dallas Cowboys in trade with NY Jets, DT Shariff Floyd, Florida
10. Tennessee Titans- Sheldon Richardson, DE/DT, Missouri
11. Cleveland Browns in trade with San Diego, OLB Jarvis Jones, Georgia

I wouldn't hate that drop back at all dawg66. and for those that are sketchy on the spinal stenosis, Dion Jordan & Barkevisous are still there for the taking.

I just don't see Buffalo jumping all the way to #1 at this point.

No one seems to be talking about it but I think it is possible Jax goes QB at number two.Though not likely. They have a new owner who I would think is looking for a "face of the franchise" and I don't think Henne is it.

Moore ran a 4.95.

For me it's more about his bench rep more then anything. It shows a seriously lack of effort and commitment. Shows he hasnt been working out at all. Then combine that with the position he plays, where you look for someone quick, strong, that can stuff the outside run and get to the QB. 12 reps is just absolutely horrible. Your looking for someone at MINIMAL low/mid 20s. Low 30's or more is outstanding.
He did 12!!!!!

He'll drop down far imo... very possibly to early 3rd.

1 - KC - Sharrif Floyd DT Fla - The Chiefs re-sign Alberts then release Tyson Jackson for cap space thus creating a big hole on their defensive line.

2 - Jax - Dee Milliner Cb Ala - Bradley saw what tough corners can do while in Seattle. He tries to duplicate that in Jax.

3 - Oak - Geno Smith Qb WV - The Raiders realize that Palmer is well past his prime and that Pryor will never have a prime. Werner or one of the OT's are also a possibility.

4 - Philly Eric Fisher OT CMU - The pick very well could be a player for their conversion to a 3-4 defense but there is a big need on the oline and Kelly is an offensive guy (pun intended). Joeckel is the best LT in the draft but the pick is Fisher because Kelly wants mobile linemen and Fisher put on a show at the combine. Chip is so smart, he outsmarts himself.

5 - Det - Ziggy Ansah DE BYU - Could be Milliner if he falls this far. Should be Joeckel but the Lions have needed to address their offensive line for years but won't do it for some reason. I believe that the Detroit coaching staff fell in love with this kid at the Senior Bowl.

6 - SD via trade with Cleveland - Luke Joeckel OT Texas A&M - The best player in the draft. The Chargers have a huge need at LT. The relationship with Norv greases the wheels on a trade. If Geno Smith falls to #6 I could see Buffalo come calling to jump Arizona.

7 - Arizona - Lane Johnson OT Oklahoma - If Geno Smith falls this far then I think he would be the pick. I don not see any other Qb that teams will like enough to take this high so Arizona addresses their other glaring need.

8 - Buffalo - Keenan Allen Wr Cal - Buffalo will look to trade up for Smith but wait too long and are surprised by Oakland. Instead they add some offensive firepower.

9 - NYJ - Cordarelle Patterson Wr Tennessee - I can see this pick being an OLb. Probably Mingo, possibly Jordan or Jones but the need Sanchez to have a good year so they elect to give him some weapons. Doesn't help.

10 - Tennessee - Chance Womack OG Ala - They want to give Chris Johnson some room to run so they make the big and powerful Womack the highest drafted OG of all time.

Ansuh:

Look anyone can see the guy is a good athlete. He did well at the combine.

However, he has started nine football games.

You do not draft a guy with the sixth pick who has nine career starts. This about getting a guy at this point who is low risk.

Dee Miliner

Dion Jordan

Jarvis Jones if cleared by medical staff.

Ansuh would be very limited to what he can do. Situational player only. NFL linemen make a living with technique. Ziggy will be good some day but it will take years.

How on earth is Dion Jordan and Jarvis Jones low risk?

Like Kyrie Irving...

KC - Joeckel, allows them to solidify thuer ine by shifting Albert to RT.
Jags - Floyd, They've drafted a couple guys as ends but could use an inside presence, could also see Milner going here.
Raiders - Milner, who do they really have at corner?
Eagles - Jordan, small surprise league wide but not for Kelly's former player, and Kelly.
Lions - Ansah, they really need some ends.
Browns - hoping for and expecting a trade down here. Someone will want a LT, possibly the Packers or Rams. So I'm going to say Fisher goes to whoever gets this pick. If we stay I think It will be a surprise pick, Dantone Jones.
Cardinals - Really need a LT, but also need a QB. They go with Lane Johnson.
Bills - Not wanting to spend again this year un free agency, former o-lineman Marrone goes with Warrmack
Jets - Ignore the medical and take Jarvis Jones.
Titans - Add to the d-line with Richardson.

Jarvis Jones ( if medically cleared). There is a body of work on tape. He played for Todd Grantham a 3-4 guy who was here under Romeo. He is not going to be learning a new position. He has faced top competition which is reviewable. He fits a position of need.

Dion Jordan. see link below:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1549068-the-best-team-fits-for-top-nfl-draft-prospects/page/8

Jarvis Jones again if medically cleared. No offense but that is up to the Browns medical staff.


You call Dion Jordan raw? And Ansuh isn't?

Did I say Ansah wasn't raw?

I'm just pointing out that the guys you mentioned have risks too.

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I'm hoping to have three rounds up by the end of the weekend, and all seven up before free agency starts.

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OK, I've got the first three rounds up. Hopefully I can get round four up tomorrow, five up Tuesday, and be done by Thursday. Never know with a wife and a baby.

http://cornerblitz.com/2013/Mocks/Post-Combine/Default.aspx

KC- Joeckel
Jags- S. Floyd
Raiders- D. Jordon
Eagles- S Richardson
Lions- D Milliner
Browns- E Ansah
Cards- E Fisher
Bills- G Smith
Jets- B Werner
Titans- C Warmack

Last year their starting LT Jason Peters tore his achilles in the off-season and he should be back this year.

Philly is switching to a 3-4 and if it's a one-gap 3-4 they could use Richardson to provide pass rush on the other side of Cox.

Kansas City just screwed everyone's picks up

Or he guy who said:

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1 - KC - Sharrif Floyd DT Fla - The Chiefs re-sign Alberts then release Tyson Jackson for cap space thus creating a big hole on their defensive line.

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Like I did a couple days ago

hey now, I was too busy back-patting myself to look at other people's responses

That's okay. I have long arms and can pat my own back

But we were both ahead of the curve. Let's buy ourselves a beer tonight.