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What I was thinking. Do we get another in FA? I like the guy from Oakland.
I'm all for drafting one as long is its not a reach.
I just don't see us drafting a starting TE in the 3rd round.
So I'm thinking has to be a FA. I'd like Dustin Keller. Is he still available. Had a down season last year, and has health issues sometimes, but he is the modern TE. Runs routes, good hands, fast, doesn't create issues in the lockerroom. He isn't hte greatest blocker, but that improves over a guy's career
Seems to be more speculation from Schefter at the moment that we're more interested in Fred Davis.. who I think would be a good pickup.
The fact that Jared Cook got 5Y/35M from the Rams hurts. That's one guy we should have been willing to overpay to get here. We should have been willing to go to 40-45M to get him here. He's a stud and would have really helped Weeden (or whoever the QB is) out.
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j/c... somehow it escaped me that outgoing FA Kaluka Maiava is Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson's nephew. All these years.
I actually remember them saying that about him on draft day. Too bad he didn't lay more smackdown here like his uncle!
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He also hunts, runs down, and kills wild pigs with a knife. Or was that Veikune, the LB Mangini took ahead of Kruger?
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What I was thinking. Do we get another in FA? I like the guy from Oakland.
I'm all for drafting one as long is its not a reach.
I just don't see us drafting a starting TE in the 3rd round.
So I'm thinking has to be a FA. I'd like Dustin Keller. Is he still available. Had a down season last year, and has health issues sometimes, but he is the modern TE. Runs routes, good hands, fast, doesn't create issues in the lockerroom. He isn't hte greatest blocker, but that improves over a guy's career
Seems to be more speculation from Schefter at the moment that we're more interested in Fred Davis.. who I think would be a good pickup.
The fact that Jared Cook got 5Y/35M from the Rams hurts. That's one guy we should have been willing to overpay to get here. We should have been willing to go to 40-45M to get him here. He's a stud and would have really helped Weeden (or whoever the QB is) out.
You guys are nuts, just like the Rams FO....Jared Cook didn't even play 50% of the Titans Offense snaps last year, and no he was not injured. He's basically a huge slot guy, who has been inconsistent since College and with whom you give away the play calling...yeah, let's give a guy like that 7+mil/year 
If we can get a F.Davis, who's a much better player, for less...I'm all for it. Depending on the money, I'd be ok with B.Myers too
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He also hunts, runs down, and kills wild pigs with a knife. Or was that Veikune, the LB Mangini took ahead of Kruger?
Neither, that was payton Hillis wasn't it?
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Gary Barnidge could be joining Browns
Posted by Mike Wilkening on March 13, 2013, 10:43 AM EDT The Browns appear poised to add to their options at tight end.
Free agent Panthers tight end Gary Barnidge is “expected to sign” with Cleveland, Joseph Person of the Charlotte Observer reported Wednesday.
This is a logical pairing. New Browns head coach Rob Chudzinski, the Panthers’ offensive coordinator the last two seasons, is familiar with the 27-year-old Barnidge. The sixth-year pro from Louisville caught six passes for 78 yards and one TD in 2012 for Carolina.
Sounds like a backup TE to me. Not our final solution at TE at all
True. I don't see where we are going in regard to upgrading this position...
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Neither, that was payton Hillis wasn't it?
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What I was thinking. Do we get another in FA? I like the guy from Oakland.
I'm all for drafting one as long is its not a reach.
I just don't see us drafting a starting TE in the 3rd round.
So I'm thinking has to be a FA. I'd like Dustin Keller. Is he still available. Had a down season last year, and has health issues sometimes, but he is the modern TE. Runs routes, good hands, fast, doesn't create issues in the lockerroom. He isn't hte greatest blocker, but that improves over a guy's career
Seems to be more speculation from Schefter at the moment that we're more interested in Fred Davis.. who I think would be a good pickup.
The fact that Jared Cook got 5Y/35M from the Rams hurts. That's one guy we should have been willing to overpay to get here. We should have been willing to go to 40-45M to get him here. He's a stud and would have really helped Weeden (or whoever the QB is) out.
You guys are nuts, just like the Rams FO....Jared Cook didn't even play 50% of the Titans Offense snaps last year, and no he was not injured. He's basically a huge slot guy, who has been inconsistent since College and with whom you give away the play calling...yeah, let's give a guy like that 7+mil/year
If we can get a F.Davis, who's a much better player, for less...I'm all for it. Depending on the money, I'd be ok with B.Myers too
He also had a QB that couldn't get him the ball. Good WR's go for 9-13M per year in free agency... so dropping 7-9M on Jared Cook would not have been a bad deal at all.
Fred Davis is coming off a torn achilles btw. Cook would have been a perfect fit here.. that's all I can say. Sick of seeing us sit on so much cap space. They had more than enough to go after Cook more agressively.
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Paying ANY player 5+ mil who can't play all 3 downs is a waste of money and bad value...Cook was all hype and flash projection out of College and he still is after 4 seasons in the league...how he got 2-3mil more than a 3 down TE like M.Bennett is beyond me, but I'm glad it wasn't our FO to be the morons on this deal
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Paying ANY player 5+ mil who can't play all 3 downs is a waste of money and bad value...Cook was all hype and flash projection out of College and he still is after 4 seasons in the league...how he got 2-3mil more than a 3 down TE like M.Bennett is beyond me, but I'm glad it wasn't our FO to be the morons on this deal
Agree to disagree. But it's thinking like this that has caused the Browns to sit on 10's of millions of dollars of cap space every year, not sign solid players, and perennially suck.
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Seems like alot to pay for what appears to be an average TE. I would rather wait until the third round of the draft. There seems to be some promising talent around the late 2nd early third.
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Oh my, we've never "sat" on 10s of millions...Banner even said that they had more cap space this season because of carry overs from the old regime, that was done by intent to set up the spending spree we're seeing right now Anyway, here are some "grades" for signings as of now: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/03/13/2013-free-agency-deal-grader/+0.5: Common sense shines through Desmond Bryant (DT) to CLE: 5-year, $34m deal If it weren’t for the money involved this would get a higher grade because Bryant is a guy who can really play. He was our sixth ranked defensive tackle last year with the sixth highest pass rushing productivity of all his peers. But he’s more than just a one dimensional pass rusher, and his versatility (he spent most of 2011 at defensive end for the Raiders) makes him an excellent fit for a Cleveland defense that needs guy who can make an impact up front. Paul Kruger (LB) to CLE: 5-year, $41m deal You could argue that this is too much for a player who has yet to prove himself a top level pass rusher. But what the Browns have done is get themselves a good player, and they’ve got him from a divisional rival. Considering how impotent their pass rush was last year (and they lost their most prolific guy in Juqua Parker) this was a need pick up, and they were always going to have to overpay a little for it. Kruger now needs to demonstrate he can produce pressure consistently, and as a teams top pass rusher. He’s building from a good base after leading the 2012 pass rushing productivity ratings for 3-4 outside linebackers. -0.5: Did you really need to make that move? Jared Cook (TE) to SL: 5-year, $35.1m deal A huge projection for the Rams here. We all know about the tools Cook possesses and how he was misused in Tennessee, but it always scares us when a player hasn’t been extremely productive in this league and then gets paid an awful lot of money. Now Cook could be the mismatch threat that Sam Bradford needs to progress as a quarterback. Or he might be an athletic tight end who makes a few plays here and there without ever putting it together. We’d just like to see him deliver before paying him big time money.
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the fact that he's saying that means he's desperate to stay. FA opened yesterday, so it's obvious NE is willing to let him test the market.
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Kind of funny I think... reports indicate Pittsburgh has agreed to one year contract with Plaxico Burress lmao: "The Pittsburgh Steelers and wide receiver Plaxico Burress have agreed to a non-guaranteed, one-year contract, according to multiple reports." http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-...olbert-steelers
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I like Fred Davis as a player. If he's healthy, then he could be a really excellent signing.
He would be an upgrade over Watson or Smith as a receiver.
Barnidge looks like a blocker/backup/special teams type.
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I'll say this, in just one day of FA , this has been the most methodical and organized plan I've seen a Browns regime put together in a long time.
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Agreed. They wanted to take care of the front seven quickly, and not be forced to need draft......refreshing.
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If it weren’t for the money involved this would get a higher grade because Bryant is a guy who can really play. He was our sixth ranked defensive tackle last year with the sixth highest pass rushing productivity of all his peers. But he’s more than just a one dimensional pass rusher, and his versatility (he spent most of 2011 at defensive end for the Raiders) makes him an excellent fit for a Cleveland defense that needs guy who can make an impact up front.
Did they expect us not to pay him? If he's as good as this guy says he is, versatile, pass rusher, etc.. then he's not being overpaid... or am I missing something?
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I'd like to grab him.
Yesterday, talk was there was interest by both parties and then it kind of went poof.
Man, I wanted him here
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read somewhere reliable that we have not met with his agent at all. Never talked contract or shown interest. Maybe generated by his agent??? Has Talib been signed yet? He's my guy.
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Actually Eo it was generated just prior to the start of FA by NFL Network about 3:45 or so yesterday.
Probably was just the Faux pros talking more mush!
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Banner saying Kruger signed, 2 tendered and another negotiating.
LB, DE, TE. Who's the negotiations with?
BTW: In case you never noticed, Grossi is a moron! Told three times they'd release more info post presser and the donkey keeps pushing!
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Hmmm, if only negotiating w one on day 2, how many more do you think we'll actually get?
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And I sure would like to know what's up with Dawson...
NFL saying Sean Smith currently negotiating somewhere. Banner saying they're currently negotiating with someone...
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And I sure would like to know what's up with Dawson...
NFL saying Sean Smith currently negotiating somewhere. Banner saying they're currently negotiating with someone...
He'd be a great fit to put across from Haden
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