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Frostee Rucker to the Cardinals




Pretty funny...he isn't good enough for Cleveland and a switch to the 3-4, but the Cards pick him up as a backup on a one-year deal...in a 3-4. What's that tell people?

Overpaid and overrated.

Goodluck, Frostee. At least you stayed healthy the entire year, even if you did steal $6 million of the teams money. What a terrible contract he was. I hate to think of all the other players we could have had with that money...


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isn't Arians switching the Cardinals to a 4-3?

they hired Todd Bowles as DC and he's been a 4-3 guy his entire career.

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I think Toad had a typo...but I'm sure he'll spin his way out of admitting that.



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The sad thing is that I got a gut feeling that if we can not find anyone other than who we have to add competition to the QB position for Weeden, Derek Anderson may be back w/ the Browns....if you want to call that competition.




Anderson signed with the Panthers




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The sad thing is that I got a gut feeling that if we can not find anyone other than who we have to add competition to the QB position for Weeden, Derek Anderson may be back w/ the Browns....if you want to call that competition.




Anderson signed with the Panthers




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Here's a guy I was slightly interested in. Had a great 2012 but he's no spring chicken...

OG, Kevin Boothe, resigns with the Giants.

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Steelers lose a safety...

Will Allen to sign with Cowboys

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Osi Umenyiora joins Falcons, two year deal:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000...woyear-contract

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Victor Butler chooses Saints

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Just saw that


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I would bet that the fact that Rob Ryan is now the Saints Defensive Coordinator, and was with Butler last year in Dallas, played into things.


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Good observation there Ytown...definitely had a say to it on both sides probably.


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Just saw that




What has Butler ever done in the NFL to warrant him being such a big loss? I don't get it. Personally, I was hoping we would not sign him.

On the other hand, I still want us to sign Grimes or perhaps Rhodes.

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Per Sirius NFL Radio: Brad Childress signed by the Chiefs as a spread game analyst, special projects (or something to that effect)


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If Grimes where to sign with Miami what would the thought be on the Browns pursuing DeAngelo Hall? He had a pretty nice season statistically last year. I know he has had personality issues in the past but I do not remember hearing much recently.Although I may have just missed the news.I would say he seems to be a safer bet health wise.

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http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/67954/what-happens-if-browns-lose-grimes

The Browns wanted to lure Brent Grimes to Cleveland so much they sent a private jet to collect him for his free-agent visit March 16. Now, there's a report that the cornerback could land somewhere else.

Grimes, who also visited Miami, could reach a deal there "soon," according to CBS Sports. If Grimes checks out medically -- he tore his Achilles tendon in last season's opener -- he is the best cornerback left in free agency. The Browns could team him with Joe Haden, giving them one of the best corner tandems in the league. If Grimes signs with the Dolphins or elsewhere, the Browns will have a major hole at that spot.

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It's surprising that Cleveland hasn't been more aggressive in trying to replace last season's starter, Sheldon Brown, who isn't expected to be re-signed. The other top free-agent corners -- Sean Smith (Kansas City), Aqib Talib (New England) and Chris Houston (Detroit) -- are gone. There is a dropoff from Grimes to the other defenders still on the market.

Here are some of the corners left in free agency (and it's not a promising group):

Antoine Winfield, Minnesota: He could accept an offer from another team before making a visit to the Redskins. Winfield, who will turn 36 in June, has reportedly drawn interest from two other teams (which haven't been identified). While his play is on the decline, Winfield had a strong season in 2012 and has enough athleticism to be an effective starter.

Nnamdi Asomugha, Philadelphia: The one-time best corner in the game is reportedly torn between playing for the 49ers and the Saints. It looks like he'll be off the market soon.

DeAngelo Hall, Washington: There were reports that he had signed with Detroit, but the Lions aren't interested in him. Hall has received very little attention. He sometimes takes too many risks to make a play, but he is a solid tackler and is very experienced.

Quentin Jammer, San Diego: He is a physical, durable corner who has drawn no interest and could be signed for cheap. The drawback with Jammer is his lack of speed. He's at his best in press coverage and likes to deliver big hits.

Mike Jenkins, Dallas: He has been linked to the Raiders and is scheduled to visit the Jaguars on Thursday. Jenkins was relegated to being Dallas' dime back last season, and it would be a surprise to see him become a starter again.

Tracy Porter, Denver: Porter visited the Saints and Raiders this week and should make a decision soon. He is only 26 and has a good feel for the game. But there is some concern after seizures and a concussion ruined his 2012 season.

If the Browns don't address cornerback in free agency, they'll be forced to take one in the early rounds of the draft. Cleveland has shown an interest in the top cornerbacks in this year's draft. Alabama's Dee Milliner and LSU's Tyrann Mathieu, formerly known as the "Honey Badger," are both scheduled for pre-draft visits, according to The Plain Dealer. Milliner could drop to the Browns at the No. 6 overall pick, and Mathieu is projected to go in the third round.


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This is just another reason why the Browns should have just signed Lewis/Cox/Smith/Talib as I've been saying all along. We all know they had more than enough cap space for it, and they all went for under what has been market-value for the past few years regardless.

Instead they pigeonholed themselves to one guy (who would be a pretty risky acquisition IMO) who might not even want to play here. I just don't really get it.

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Just heard on the radio that Jenkins signed with New England.

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This is just another reason why the Browns should have just signed Lewis/Cox/Smith/Talib as I've been saying all along. We all know they had more than enough cap space for it, and they all went for under what has been market-value for the past few years regardless.

Instead they pigeonholed themselves to one guy (who would be a pretty risky acquisition IMO) who might not even want to play here. I just don't really get it.




Who says they didn't try?

Do you think a guy like Taliban would leave NE for us?

And if your answer is "we can pay more" then that's a horrible plan, and is how teams get in bad cap situations..


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This is just another reason why the Browns should have just signed Lewis/Cox/Smith/Talib as I've been saying all along. We all know they had more than enough cap space for it, and they all went for under what has been market-value for the past few years regardless.

Instead they pigeonholed themselves to one guy (who would be a pretty risky acquisition IMO) who might not even want to play here. I just don't really get it.







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Me. They clearly didn't try very hard because plenty of capable guys went to other teams for below market-value.

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Do you think a guy like Taliban would leave NE for us?




I don't know where this "free agents only go to contenders" logic is coming from. Money talks.

Let me pose this question: Do you think a guy like Kruger would leave the Super Bowl-winning Ravens for the cellar-dwelling Browns?

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And if your answer is "we can pay more" then that's a horrible plan, and is how teams get in bad cap situations..




My answer is the Browns can pay more. At roughly $29 million, the Browns were in a three-way tie for most cap space in the NFL. They're not remotely close to being in a bad cap situation. The Browns also have numerous holes due to previous regimes' failure to draft good players. They should use that cap space (which, KEY POINT: they have to spend 88% of anyways) to fill holes so they're not handcuffed to drafting one player (Dee Miliner) come draft day.

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The Ravens gave Kruger up in an attempt to get Ellerbee.


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Why would former all-pro Mario Williams ditch the up-and-coming Texans for the the consistently dismal Bills who play in warm and sunny Buffalo?

Why would all-pro Albert Haynesworth leave the 13-3 Titans for the (at the time) perennially-losing Redskins?

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Why would former all-pro Mario Williams ditch the up-and-coming Texans for the the consistently dismal Bills who play in warm and sunny Buffalo?

Why would all-pro Albert Haynesworth leave the 13-3 Titans for the (at the time) perennially-losing Redskins?




Money. But if you had a choice at two teams and they both offered you the same amount of money and you had no allegiance to either place, which one would you choose?

Playoff contenders can get players cheaper, but it might be insignificant and can really depend on the player as not every player values money or championships the same. Most of the time, you will most likely see players just taking the money.


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Why would former all-pro Mario Williams ditch the up-and-coming Texans for the the consistently dismal Bills who play in warm and sunny Buffalo?




He got hurt halfway through the year and their defensenplayed better after he was gone, and the Texans knew they wouldn't be able to afford him...

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Why would all-pro Albert Haynesworth leave the 13-3 Titans for the (at the time) perennially-losing Redskins?




The guy that played great two season, both contract years, and got scooped up by Dan Snyder of all people?

Look, would it of been nice to grab a CB early in FA so we as fans could stop worrying about it? Yeah, but its not like they don't have a plan in place, if we come out of the draft with either Milliner or Rhodes a FA CB is a Moot point.


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I understand what you are saying, but last year there was an article posted that actually quoted guys saying that players don't want to play in Cleveland. I think Manningham was one of the guys. Not sure about that, though.

Anyway, I think there is some truth to that. I am hopeful that we were able to land Kruger and to a lesser degree--Bryant--because that might mean that our new FO is more credible than the past one. I think we need to have a decent off-season followed up by a decent season and players might have a better attitude about coming to Cleveland.

I do think money talks. It's number one. And players will sign with teams that are not as successful, but if a team is dysfunctional, such as our was the last several years, it's a tough sell---especially when you consider Cleveland's weather and night life.

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... it's a tough sell---especially when you consider Cleveland's night life.



You and I and ??? wil have to check it out to prove your theory...


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I will chime in on this subject ...

One of my very best friends is in this year's draft (projected early 2nd round pick ... some of you obviously know who this is based on previous threads).

Anyways, I had a conversation with him about where he "wants" to go. Eventually our discussion led me to ask his thoughts on Cleveland. He basically just laughed and said it was one of the last places he'd want to end up (along with Buffalo). He told me the guys at the combine always talked about that stuff and how basically the Browns are considered the "Old Maid" of the NFL. No one wants to go there, unless they were originally from the area. It was something I basically knew to be true, but his reaction wasn't very fun to hear as a Browns fan.

Anyways, he thinks he'll end up with either NY Giants, NY Jets, Patriots, Rams, 49ers, or Vikings.


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... it's a tough sell---especially when you consider Cleveland's night life.



You and I and ??? wil have to check it out to prove your theory...





especially since Cleveland is in the process of being reborn and is getting tons of media coverage in the past 6-8 mo. in 2-3 years we will be spending 2 billion dollars on improvements and tourism. We have so much going on that I was reading an article a few weeks ago saying we will have 11 million people travel here this year. yeah... 11 million. Bangkok had 12.4 million visitors in 2011.

here is a video as proof: http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/281904/45/Cleveland-11-million-visitors-expected-Downtown-in-2013

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mhj45eddgl/cleveland-ohio/


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Thanks for the information. It's sad to hear, but I think it's more perception than anything. We're talking young 20-24yo guys and they go a lot on "what they hear" and since we're a loser for so long it takes a life of his own, kind of a running gag....that said, I think once they are part of ANY NFL team and being coddled and coached (and paid good money) by the guys who liked them so much that they drafted you, they'll change their minds quickly....no big deal imho


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You're an independent thinker, that is for sure. You might wanna cool it on acting like we are the "crazy" ones, though.

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You're an independent thinker, that is for sure. You might wanna cool it on acting like we are the "crazy" ones, though.





i concur.

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LOL super. You're a good soul.

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...He basically just laughed and said it was one of the last places he'd want to end up (along with Buffalo). He told me the guys at the combine always talked about that stuff and how basically the Browns are considered the "Old Maid" of the NFL. No one wants to go there, unless they were originally from the area. It was something I basically knew to be true, but his reaction wasn't very fun to hear as a Browns fan.




I don't blame any player for not wanting to live in Cleveland. It's been 13 years since I moved to Chicago and I wouldn't move back. There are a lot of factors in that decision, and the details aren't important, but I'm happier here.

Heck, if I was to move from Chicago, it would be to Denver, San Diego or NorCal/Oregon.

With all that being said, the money earned in Cleveland as a football player spends the same as the money earned elsewhere. And the Browns are a sleepinng Giant......Cleveland comes alive when the Browns are playing well.


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