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I see no way that Long would move inside .... or that he would sign a deal that would pay him as a Guard. Plus, with his shoulder, back, knee, bicep, and other injuries, how much would you pay him?
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I hope it isn't just speculation. I'd like for Rhodes to be in a Brown's uniform. Him and Ward would make a great safety combo IMO.
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I see no way that Long would move inside .... or that he would sign a deal that would pay him as a Guard. Plus, with his shoulder, back, knee, bicep, and other injuries, how much would you pay him?
I would not pay him much. I think we will snag up a solid starting guard in the draft and it will be at a much cheaper price than Long will demand. Don't get me wrong, I think Long is a great tackle, but I don't think we should open the wallets as wide as he wants for the needs that we have on our offensive line.
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I would like Rhodes or Huff at S.
Rhodes is getting older ..... but he had a strong year last year. I would love to see him here, as a mentor, and as a player.
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Could Schwartz slide over to right guard with Long at right tackle?
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I don't know if this has legs or if it's just because he played for Horton? Guess we'll see.
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My guess is that it is just speculation, because he played for Horton and it is a position of need. Same reaction a lot of us here had when he was released.
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Wow, Backus retired? They did draft Reiff in the first round last year and he was Backus' backup. They also lost their RT Cherilus in free agency. Could draft another OT in the first and have the two guys fall into whatever spot they fit best. Still have no DEs on the roster. All but precludes them from drafting a corner in the first.
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Could Schwartz slide over to right guard with Long at right tackle?
Why would you want that. Schwartz did a great job last year as a Rookie,, he's only going to get better. Why pay LT money to a guy to play RT when you have a RT in place. If you don't like your RG, replace him with another guard...
And I still don't think the Oline is weak. We have other issues to tend to.
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Could Schwartz slide over to right guard with Long at right tackle?
That would be like when we signed Kruger. We sign Long and some posters here would be wondering if it was Thomas or Schwartz being traded for Mallet.
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Because if Long is a better RT than Schwartz, and Schwartz is a better RG than whoever we have pencilled in at that spot (Greco, I'm assuming), then you can upgrade two positions with one player acquisition. Long, when healthy, is a great LT, and I seem to recall Schwartz being touted as being able to play most positions along the line competently.
I don't know if Long would have the ability to make the transition to the other side. That's why I asked.
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Could Schwartz slide over to right guard with Long at right tackle?
Why would you want that. Schwartz did a great job last year as a Rookie,, he's only going to get better. Why pay LT money to a guy to play RT when you have a RT in place. If you don't like your RG, replace him with another guard...
And I still don't think the Oline is weak. We have other issues to tend to.
Ditto. I see no reason to move Schwartz anywhere. He is an exceptional RT. Why mess with success?
I also think that some people are going to be disappointed from here out ...... because I don't see us signing any more huge free agents ... unless we can somehow convince Dumervil to sign here ...... 
Banner has already said that we were only going to pursue a couple of choice free agents, and we signed 2 who were considered to be in the top 25 or so on the market this year. That's a strong job. We added a couple of guys who can plug holes, but who probably won't be starters ..... and we might look for a value signing at a key position.
I remember reading about how there are so many mistales made in free agency, and how teams waste their money signing players left and right ...... yet then read others opine that the Chefs and Phins have done such a great job passing out contracts like they were dealing cards.
I like what we've done so far, and I don't expect us to do a whole lot more. Maybe we sign Fred Davis if the deal is right. Maybe we sign Rhodes if the contract is right. Maybe we pass on one, or both, if the numbers are wrong.
One thing I don't see is us spending a ton of money, as free agency would require, on a Guard. Maybe we look in the 4th/5th rounds for another Guard, and put him in competition with Lauvao, Greco, Pinkston, and Miller. We cannot, and should not, spend big dollars everywhere.
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Michael Huff and Kerry Rhodes are both currently 30 years old, with Rhodes turning 31 before the season starts. If we sign either one they would be a stop gap, which Banner said is something we won't do.
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If we ended FA by signing Meyers (TE), Brent Grimes (CB), and Kerry Rhodes (FS) we could go into the draft and do whatever the heck we wanted...
I doubt we'd get Grimes, But Meyers and Rhodes are just sitting there it seems, and would fill huge holes on this team...
I'd still like a FA CB also...
Or just come out and say we're done, so I can stop checking up on it...
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I don't see a problem with a stop gap if that stop gap leads to a better place.
We still can't fill every hole through the draft this year. Getting a guy who can fill a hole and let other guys develop is still useful.
I don't expect Banner to sign a guy 30 or above to a huge contract. However, that doesn't mean that we can't sign an older player to fill a deep hole.
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I agree. Just reminding as to what Banner said.
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I don't remember him saying that we wouldn't sign anyone over 30 .... just that they plan on building through the draft and with select free agents in the prime of their careers.
I could have missed it though.
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I don't see a problem with a stop gap if that stop gap leads to a better place.
We still can't fill every hole through the draft this year. Getting a guy who can fill a hole and let other guys develop is still useful.
I don't expect Banner to sign a guy 30 or above to a huge contract. However, that doesn't mean that we can't sign an older player to fill a deep hole.
Well I think we'd all prefer someone that could be here for 10 years but in todays NFL, that almost seems impossible to do in all positions.
so, if we gotta pick up a 2 or 3 years stopgap,, I'm good with it.
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Unless this team signs Fred Davis or Brandon Myers, I'm pretty confident in saying that the Browns had one of the worst FA signing periods of any team in the NFL. And I'm not just saying this as a Chargers fan and trying to be a negative nancy, as the BrownsChat members can vouch for me when I say that my posts were mostly positive on that board.
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First of all, Kruger is a terrible signing when juxtaposed to Avril's signing. Avril got less money, despite having more production, being younger, and being a 3-down player. Avril may not be good at stopping the run or playing coverage, but Kruger is even worse considering he was only a pass-rush specialist in Baltimore and didn't even start. Seriously, if Kruger starts, the Browns' hypothetical rush-defense is takes a major hit because the Ravens knew he couldn't seal the edge.
Not to mention that big-time defensive FA signings usually bust, especially ones that have a very small body of work like Kruger. Actually, I this is why I never would have signed a pass rusher via FA in the first place and spent the money elsewhere. The Browns possess a very high draft slot in a draft that's heavy on high-potential pass rushers (and not much else besides tackles and guards), they really should have just drafted a pass rusher IMO...
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Second of all, the Bryant signing was okay for a good team who had most of its positions on defense addressed, but not okay for a team who already has 4 decent-good 3-4 defensive linemen in Taylor, Rubin, Winn, and Hughes (yes, I know he didn't show much last year, but he's a 3rd round pick and 3rd round picks need to play). Those 4 guys are enough for a 3-4 defense, especially one that lacks a decent CB2, FS — and on offense — lacks a TE, maybe a G, and preferably an outside WR (Little is better from the slot).
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This leads me to my third point, the Browns didn't sign a CB in the cheapest market for CBs in YEARS. Quality players like Cox, Lewis, and Talib were supposed to get $7-8 million and inconsistent players like Cason were supposed to $4 million. Well instead that first tier of guys got $5 million and Cason got $2 million. Seriously, how does a team that lacks a CB2 not sign a CB when they're $2-3 million under-value??? Why would they pigeonhole themselves to drafting Dee Milliner?
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Now I know the Browns still have a ton of cap money sitting there, so as I wrote before, maybe they're planning on signing Davis or Myers. Those would be good pickups considering Chud has worked with good TEs in the past (Antonio Gates and Greg Olsen). I also think Asomugha would be a good pickup considering all he can do now is play press-man coverage and Horton plays a crapload of that.
But if the Browns don't pick any of these guys up, this is going to be one of the worst FA periods I've ever seen. Kruger and Bryant were already ill-advised pickups and not signing one of aforementioned guys would be stupid considering the Browns still have cap money (that they need to spend 88% of no matter what, per the new CBA agreement) and the only other good guys left aren't at positions of need for the Browns.
UGH, I can see why being a fan of this team would be frustrating. The Browns had the second-most cap space in the league and completely blew it.
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Unless this team signs Fred Davis or Brandon Myers, I'm pretty confident in saying that the Browns had one of the worst FA signing periods of any team in the NFL. And I'm not just saying this as a Chargers fan and trying to be a negative nancy, as the BrownsChat members can vouch for me when I say that my posts were mostly positive on that board.
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First of all, Kruger is a terrible signing when juxtaposed to Avril's signing. Avril got less money, despite having more production, being younger, and being a 3-down player. Avril may not be good at stopping the run or playing coverage, but Kruger is even worse considering he was only a pass-rush specialist in Baltimore and didn't even start. Seriously, if Kruger starts, the Browns' hypothetical rush-defense is takes a major hit because the Ravens knew he couldn't seal the edge.
Not to mention that big-time defensive FA signings usually bust, especially ones that have a very small body of work like Kruger. Actually, I this is why I never would have signed a pass rusher via FA in the first place and spend the money elsewhere. The Browns possess a very high draft slot in a draft that's heavy on high-potential pass rushers (and not much else besides tackles and guards), they really should have just drafted a pass rusher IMO...
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Second of all, the Bryant signing was okay for a good team who had most of its positions on defense addressed, but not okay for a team who already has 4 decent-good 3-4 defensive linemen in Taylor, Rubin, Winn, and Hughes (yes, I know he didn't show much last year, but he's a 3rd round pick and 3rd round picks need to play). Those 4 guys are enough for a 3-4 defense, especially one that lacks a decent CB2, FS — and on offense — lacks a TE, maybe a G, and preferably an outside WR (Little is better from the slot).
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This leads me to my third point, the Browns didn't sign a CB in the cheapest market for CBs in YEARS. Quality players like Cox, Lewis, and Talib were supposed to get $7-8 million and inconsistent players like Cason were supposed to $4 million. Well instead that first tier of guys got $5 million and those Cason got $2 million. Seriously, how does a team that lacks a CB2 not sign a CB when they're $2-3 million under-value??? Why would they pigeonhole themselves to drafting Dee Milliner?
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Now I know the Browns still have a ton of cap money sitting there, so as I wrote before, maybe they're planning on signing Davis or Myers. Those would be good pickups considering Chud has worked with good TEs in the past (Antonio Gates and Greg Olsen). I also think Asomugha would be a good pickup considering all he can do now is play press-man coverage and Horton plays a crapload of that.
But if the Browns don't pick any of these guys up, this is going to be one of the worst FA periods I've ever seen. Kruger and Bryant were already ill-advised pickups and not signing one of aforementioned guys would be stupid considering the Browns still have cap money (that they need to spend 88% of no matter what, per the new CBA agreement) and the only other good guys left aren't at positions of need for the Browns.
UGH, I can see why being a fan of this team would be frustrating. The Browns had the second-most cap space in the league and completely blew it.
Good post Blue...I too have been left scratching my head in aspects of the Browns FA period...especially with all the starting caliber CBs signing very cheaply while we only have Haden and Skrine (Skrine at best looks to be a dime back) with the cheapest corner/secondary market I've seen in years and years why not pick up 2 corners even a FS ontop of that...just doesn't make sense to me...FS Usama Young is erratic and is constantly out of position yet we have to address that spot in addition...We still have a lot or cap...major holes at CB #2 and CB #3, FS, starting TE, another starting caliber WR, a starting G, starting FB...and the FA market is dwindling down everyday that passes...while some holes will be filled in the draft...there is still way too many holes void of talent on this team....hopefully we will make some deals here very shortly...as really it seems to me the Browns are running out of time in FA...
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That doesn't mean Sanders is definitely staying with the Steelers this season. Schefter pointed out that the Patriots are still deciding whether to extend an offer sheet to Sanders, who is expected to replace Mike Wallace for Pittsburgh this season.
While the Patriots could put together an offer that the cap-strapped Steelers couldn't match, New England has problems of its own with a shortage of draft picks. If the Patriots gave up a third-round pick for Sanders, which would be the compensation given to Pittsburgh, New England would be left with four picks in next month's draft and just two in the first six rounds. The Patriots used those other picks in trades for cornerback Aqib Talib (fourth round), defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth (fifth round), and wide receiver Chad Johnson (sixth round).
In other news, the Steelers reached an agreement with tight end Matt Spaeth, according to ESPNChicago. Spaeth, 29, spent his first four seasons in the NFL with the Steelers before playing for the Bears the past two seasons.
He provides depth for the Steelers, who are uncertain when tight end Heath Miller will come back from ACL surgery late in the season. In four seasons with Pittsburgh, Spaeth had 36 catches for 275 yards and five touchdowns. As those numbers indicate, he's more of a blocking tight end. He visited the Bengals on Friday before reaching a deal with Pittsburgh.
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Anyone else think that if this signing happens the Patriots will look to trade Mallett? They would only hŸve four picks in the entire draft. A third and a conditional pick in 2014 seems like a good deal for both sides. We could then trade down from pick six and recoup some draft picks.
Does this make too much sense or am I missing something?
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Perhaps, but if the Pats trade Mallett, then they would have to replace him, and would probably have to use a draft pick to do so.l
Would that put them ahead, or not?
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Or they can sign someone. There are some guys that could make pretty good backups out there.
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That doesn't mean Sanders is definitely staying with the Steelers this season. Schefter pointed out that the Patriots are still deciding whether to extend an offer sheet to Sanders, who is expected to replace Mike Wallace for Pittsburgh this season.
While the Patriots could put together an offer that the cap-strapped Steelers couldn't match, New England has problems of its own with a shortage of draft picks. If the Patriots gave up a third-round pick for Sanders, which would be the compensation given to Pittsburgh, New England would be left with four picks in next month's draft and just two in the first six rounds. The Patriots used those other picks in trades for cornerback Aqib Talib (fourth round), defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth (fifth round), and wide receiver Chad Johnson (sixth round).
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Anyone else think that if this signing happens the Patriots will look to trade Mallett? They would only have four picks in the entire draft. A third and a conditional pick in 2014 seems like a good deal for both sides. We could then trade down from pick six and recoup some draft picks.
Does this make too much sense or am I missing something?
Injuries happen and Tom Brady is getting old. It's good to have a quality backup and while there have been some QBs in recent memory that have played at a very high level into their late 30s or even early 40s (Favre), but many regress well before that. In my estimation Mallett is worth a lot more to the Patriots than a 3rd rounder plus a throw in pick.
Really the only way he isn't worth that much to them is if he hasn't impressed, in which case you wouldn't want to trade for him, but not too many people outside the Pats organization have real insight into that. It's kind of a catch-22.
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One person who does have insight in the Patriots organization -- Michael Lombardi.
It has been said that Lombardi was helping game plan for Belichick last year and if we wouldn't have hired him he would have a spot in the Patriots front office right now.
Also, a conditional draft pick is not necessarily a throw-in. Maybe make so that if Mallett starts all 16 games they get another third. If he starts all 16 and makes the Pro Bowl they get a second.
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Who is still out there?
I know that Kolb is still available, but he doesn't impress me at all. I doubt that he excites the Patriots either.
Jason Campbell? I don't look at him as an exciting option either.
Ryan Fitzpatrick?
Brady Quinn?
There is some pretty unimpressive "talent" left on the sidelines. Some of them may be sidelined for good at this point.
I think that Belichick would have made an attempt to sign someone while he could have his pick of players if he had any intention of trading Malett.
Plus, Alex Smith, a somewhat expensive option at QB, cost the Chefs a 2nd and a conditional draft pick. He costs $8 million per year, plus guarantees. I didn't look up his deal, but it seems like a pretty large amount for a fairly limited QB.
Mallett would bring a much lower price tag. The Pats could not sign his replacement for the same money they are paying him. There would be a premium for that. Plus, he is younger. I would guess that the Pats start at a 2nd plus a future 2nd, and work up from there ... if not more.
To me that would be a dangerous proposition.
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I hope and pray we don't waste a drft pick on Ryan Mallet ... PLEASE NOOOOOOOO ... 
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Mallett was a first round talent that fell due to character issues. He has now been with the Patriots for two years and has hopefully learned some good study habits from Belichick and Brady.
Obviously you wouldn't want to give up too much, but a pick traded for Mallett is not a wasted pick. Mallett would give Weeden legit competition.
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Obviously you wouldn't want to give up too much, but a pick traded for Mallett is not a wasted pick. Mallett would give Weeden legit competition.
Sorry but we have our opinions, I watched Mallet more than once in college but if you just watch the Ohio State Game (Sugar Bowl) you can clearly see he has happy feet, and with any pressure he falls apart, I know he has studied behind Brady but he hasn't had time on the field to overcome that part of his game, and with happy feet comes alot of picks... JMHO 
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I hope and pray we don't waste a drft pick on Ryan Mallet ... PLEASE NOOOOOOOO ...
Just to clarify I never said that I wanted to trade for him. It was mostly just a general point that I've made in the past that in trade discussions it's easy to overvalue your own team's players and undervalue other teams' players.
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Brandon Myers visiting Giants
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i agree. why have we not set up a visit with him.. imo he is a player better than davis. less injury concern too.
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i agree. why have we not set up a visit with him.. imo he is a player better than davis. less injury concern too.
I still had hope for getting Myers, but that hope is beginning to fade ... 
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i agree. why have we not set up a visit with him.. imo he is a player better than davis. less injury concern too.
I still had hope for getting Myers, but that hope is beginning to fade ...
Myers is a good security net, but he can't stretch the field or accumulate YAC. He just has really good stats because Carson Palmer can't throw a ball past the 10 yard mark.
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A Norv Turner fan.
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It has been said that Lombardi was helping game plan for Belichick last year and if we wouldn't have hired him he would have a spot in the Patriots front office right now.
That's a good one. I needed that laugh.
Belichek had five years to offer him a job and never did. After Lombardi left the Raiders he never smelled an opportunity to work in New England. They hired some Reece guy a few years back...How about when Scott Pioli left for KC? Belichek could have easily given him a job if he wanted him but didn't.
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Unless this team signs Fred Davis or Brandon Myers, I'm pretty confident in saying that the Browns had one of the worst FA signing periods of any team in the NFL. And I'm not just saying this as a Chargers fan and trying to be a negative nancy, as the BrownsChat members can vouch for me when I say that my posts were mostly positive on that board.
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First of all, Kruger is a terrible signing when juxtaposed to Avril's signing. Avril got less money, despite having more production, being younger, and being a 3-down player. Avril may not be good at stopping the run or playing coverage, but Kruger is even worse considering he was only a pass-rush specialist in Baltimore and didn't even start. Seriously, if Kruger starts, the Browns' hypothetical rush-defense is takes a major hit because the Ravens knew he couldn't seal the edge.
Not to mention that big-time defensive FA signings usually bust, especially ones that have a very small body of work like Kruger. Actually, I this is why I never would have signed a pass rusher via FA in the first place and spent the money elsewhere. The Browns possess a very high draft slot in a draft that's heavy on high-potential pass rushers (and not much else besides tackles and guards), they really should have just drafted a pass rusher IMO...
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Second of all, the Bryant signing was okay for a good team who had most of its positions on defense addressed, but not okay for a team who already has 4 decent-good 3-4 defensive linemen in Taylor, Rubin, Winn, and Hughes (yes, I know he didn't show much last year, but he's a 3rd round pick and 3rd round picks need to play). Those 4 guys are enough for a 3-4 defense, especially one that lacks a decent CB2, FS — and on offense — lacks a TE, maybe a G, and preferably an outside WR (Little is better from the slot).
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This leads me to my third point, the Browns didn't sign a CB in the cheapest market for CBs in YEARS. Quality players like Cox, Lewis, and Talib were supposed to get $7-8 million and inconsistent players like Cason were supposed to $4 million. Well instead that first tier of guys got $5 million and Cason got $2 million. Seriously, how does a team that lacks a CB2 not sign a CB when they're $2-3 million under-value??? Why would they pigeonhole themselves to drafting Dee Milliner?
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Now I know the Browns still have a ton of cap money sitting there, so as I wrote before, maybe they're planning on signing Davis or Myers. Those would be good pickups considering Chud has worked with good TEs in the past (Antonio Gates and Greg Olsen). I also think Asomugha would be a good pickup considering all he can do now is play press-man coverage and Horton plays a crapload of that.
But if the Browns don't pick any of these guys up, this is going to be one of the worst FA periods I've ever seen. Kruger and Bryant were already ill-advised pickups and not signing one of aforementioned guys would be stupid considering the Browns still have cap money (that they need to spend 88% of no matter what, per the new CBA agreement) and the only other good guys left aren't at positions of need for the Browns.
UGH, I can see why being a fan of this team would be frustrating. The Browns had the second-most cap space in the league and completely blew it.
Nice to get a take from someone not wearing the brown and orange goggles.
I think Kruger will have a good spot in our defense, and his signing does not mean we won't draft a pass rusher in the draft.
Bryant - I think more bodies on the line is good, especially when Taylor has injury concerns. I hate how the Browns never have depth, so for once we have one in a key position.
CB - I completely agree. I thought we'd make a run at all of the top CBs but it seems we didn't. $2-5 million for a number 2 corner is not bad, and leaves Milliner as an option as well in a pass happy league.
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