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If Milliner is gone when we pick, would anyone be mad if we cant trade down and we draft Xavier Rhodes CB FSU?
I wouldn't have a problem with us taking Rhodes at #6 even if Milline is still there.
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I would draft like this..1 Ansah or Jones- OLB
According to NFL.com, there may be an issue with Ansah's age. He may be 28, not 23. His agent is currently trying to clear this up...
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I don't see any mention of that. Would you post a link?
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do you think that there is a really elite pass rusher in this draft. i think not. and to bet the number 6 on a guy that has only started 9 games in a weak conference is totally mind blowing. he wasn't good enough to start the beginning of the season for his team.
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A rumor laid out there by the Jets...lol  Trying to pull a Shula - leak out something 30 days prior to the draft when all are finalizing their boards. So I guess next at the combine we will be doing Carbon testing to get correct age on all out there... 
Not odd this doesn't come out in Jan.? Feb.? But now past Mid March the question or accusation is put out there.  Of course I'm thinking he has no wear n tear...in great shape. Does he have 10 prime years in him regardless of 23 or 28???
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I would draft like this..1 Ansah or Jones- OLB
According to NFL.com, there may be an issue with Ansah's age. He may be 28, not 23. His agent is currently trying to clear this up...
Please do not draft another 28 year old rookie ...
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I don't see any mention of that. Would you post a link?
That was reported by Ian Rapoport and I saw it on the NFL Network (TV) ticker-tape. Will check further...
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do you think that there is a really elite pass rusher in this draft. i think not. and to bet the number 6 on a guy that has only started 9 games in a weak conference is totally mind blowing. he wasn't good enough to start the beginning of the season for his team.
Ansah (barring him being 28) has the tools to become one. I don't like that he's got limited experience playing football, but it's not a deal-breaker.
We all thought Kam Wimbley had the tools too. He turned himself into a decent football player, but not what we were expecting and he was gone within a few years. That's what I'm afraid of.
We just have to put our hopes into the Browns and Michael Lombardi having the best scouts possible to find out this kind of stuff. I said it before, if he can hit on this #6 pick, I think the media and fans will back off him for a while. I'm willing to give him a chance (what other choice do I have) I wish the media would too.
I think the thing people don't get is that if Joe Banner and Michael Lombardi and all these other guys aren't doing a good enough job? They'll be gone quickly. Jimmy Haslam isn't going to be over in the UK watching soccer. He's going to be present within this organization, despite the fact that he is still running Pilot/Flying J.
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tab, this is the 64 million dollar question. does the new fo think weeden can play at a level to be playoff contenders? we will find out in about six weeks.
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We could cut off his leg and count the rings  Being from Ghana, I can see him being older than his stated age. Like the Dominican baseball players. I also would not be surprised if we found out that he wasn't really Ezekiel Ansah but that he used that alias to get out of Ghana..
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don't you think at #6 we should get more of a sure thing?
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don't you think at #6 we should get more of a sure thing?
that is going to be difficult in this draft. i'm not as high as others on Ansah, but all the pass rushers have question marks this time.
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Frankly this seems like a very ugly draft to be sitting at #7. In 2011 we would have been debating Patrick Peterson vs. Aldon Smith (or praying for AJ Green) and I would be delighted. We ended up trading down, which in skipping Julio Jones I am happy about, but now I kind of miss Aldon Smith  Jones/Ansah/Jordan & Milliner isn't exactly inspiring. I think I will be happiest with a trade down at this point.
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I've said it several times...its all up to Chud/Norv - If they love Geno n think he will be THE GUY...he will be taken! We have no allegiance to Weeden as THE GUY...but I think they like what they see. I have also stated just because of the age thing...right guy right place we take him we take a QB n groom him.
But several things. I think we will improve to .500 or better as a regular thing. Finally getting there as a team. We will never be able to get the TOP QBs. We couldn't get one at #4 we are going to get one at 20 + picking - yeah if the guy is 28 years old rookie maybe???
Ponder really? Is that our destiny. Dalton? how did he make the Pro Bowl as a rookie - is beyond me, the kid is not that good. We were at #4 offered 3 first round pick which included #4 a drop back of 2 slots for the SECOND QB in the draft...n we couldn't pull it off. Next year...will we get an opportunity of a Geno Smith quality QB? 2015? 2016?
It would not surprise me one bit if that has been the target - Even if we like Weeden.
Its all on how Chud/Norv evlauates Geno Smith...not JAWS
Ansah...Ghana? What was the point of hiding the age in coming here. College? Track? from a missionary recruit? College has them for 4-5 years AGE means nothing.
Basketball? Baseball from Mexico n Dominican Republic - I know from Africa in the past there has been questions about documentation. Hard to prove in some nations.
But the timing of this AGE THING is so so hoping he drops...hey maybe its us leaking it out there? 
But its simple. Rare Priority: QB, LT, Pass Rusher Edge, Cover Corner.
LT we don't need. The other 3 we go from Need to NEED another in the mix.
So Geno Smith QB, Ansah/Jones/Jordan OLB or Millner CB. Those are our Options.
Right now the Coaching Staff n FO are keeping their cards close to their Vest!
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I would draft like this..1 Ansah or Jones- OLB
According to NFL.com, there may be an issue with Ansah's age. He may be 28, not 23. His agent is currently trying to clear this up...
Now THAT would be the funniest thing to happen in the NFL since...oh...a player fell in love with a man pretending to be a woman over the phon....er....nevermind...
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Move back pick up a second rounder and take a good guard Jonathan Cooper perhaps then go for a good TE with the second. Possibly Eifert if we get an early enough two.
I suppose it'd depend on the desire for a team to move move up as to where the #2 would fall. Not sure anyone will desire our spot that much.
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I can't see why so many want to draft a gaurd so high. IMO our line is pretty good, plus with time to gel in another offseason will be huge. Spending a high pick on OL when we have such needs in the defensive backfield is foolish.
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I can't see why so many want to draft a gaurd so high. IMO our line is pretty good, plus with time to gel in another offseason will be huge. Spending a high pick on OL when we have such needs in the defensive backfield is foolish.
I would love to add depth of course, but like you, I think the line is, at it's core, pretty good. could an upgrade be made at R and L Guard,, sure. But our tackles and center are solid.
But there are those on here that think that our guards should be tossed out with the garbage. I'd laugh at them, but so often I agree with their assessments that I find myself questioning what I see.
So, I guess my answer is, I wanna see what Turner thinks..
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Not sure one is looking for depth when drafting in the 1st round. Especially a team that wins 5 games a year.
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Just my opinion I would not draft Ansuh at 6.
28 or 23 still would not draft him with the sixth pick in the first round.
NFL linemen make a living with technique. Ansuh is just not ready. He would be taken to school by pro linemen. In addition he would have to learn a position. He is not a DE in a 3-4 so he would be moved OLB. He would be asked to play zone.
You just do not go there with the sixth pick in the draft. That is not to say he could develop into a good player. No doubt he is a very good athlete. It is just not a good idea to look at a guy like him with that long of a learning curve when there will be guys there who are much cleaner.
He would be a situational pass rusher not a 3 down player.
There will be better choices at six.
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I think it has to be Milliner, or trade out to someone who wants one of the QB's or LT's. I was against trading down, but I think we need a CB badly, and there's too many risky picks in the top 10 imo. If Milliner is gone at 6, we can move down for either Rhodes or Banks, or whomever the FO thinks is next best CB, and maybe pick up a 2nd or 3rd rounder depending how far we trade down.
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I think it has to be Milliner, or trade out to someone who wants one of the QB's or LT's. I was against trading down, but I think we need a CB badly, and there's too many risky picks in the top 10 imo. If Milliner is gone at 6, we can move down for either Rhodes or Banks, or whomever the FO thinks is next best CB, and maybe pick up a 2nd or 3rd rounder depending how far we trade down.
I like your thinking but i feel we need to patient a see what another month of FA brings us @ CB ... JMHO 
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I agree with Millner at 6 or a short trade down, but I don't understand all this love for Gino Smith. We have to quit drafting QB's and not giving them a chance. Not every young QB is Luck or Rg3. I didn't think Weeds was all that bad for a young QB on a crappy team.
I started watching WV football when people started to talk about GS. He seemed inaccruate and un focused. also strictly shotgun. We spent a 1st round pick on Weeden lets at least give him a shot without having GS looking over his shoulder.
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I agree with Millner at 6 or a short trade down, but I don't understand all this love for Gino Smith. We have to quit drafting QB's and not giving them a chance. Not every young QB is Luck or Rg3. I didn't think Weeds was all that bad for a young QB on a crappy team.
I started watching WV football when people started to talk about GS. He seemed inaccruate and un focused. also strictly shotgun. We spent a 1st round pick on Weeden lets at least give him a shot without having GS looking over his shoulder.
I don't think most of us "want" to draft another QB, but have a feeling our new ownership does, I agree with you about Weeden Give him a chance he wasn't terrible in a terrible offense ... JMHO
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