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This might be a duplicate thread or maybe doesn't even deserve it's own thread... but...

What do you think about Darrelle Revis? The Jets say he is not being shopped around but owner Woody Johnson says that they are open to offers.

Jets owner open to Revis offers

His profile says he's on injured reserve for a torn ACL. I know the recoup from that is rough. He went on IR in October, '12.

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I have no idea what his salary is or what the Jets might want for him. My guess would be our first round pick. But, since he's 'damaged goods' currently maybe a 2nd and a late round.

Worth it or not?


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9/6/2010: Signed a four-year, $46 million contract. The deal contains $32.5 million guaranteed, including all of Revis' first two base salaries and an $18 million first-year option bonus. The contract stipulates that Revis cannot be franchise tagged when his deal voids following the 2013 season. 2013: $3 million (+ $1 million workout bonus + $1 million roster bonus due 3/16 + $1 million reporting bonus), 2014-2016: (Voidable Years) $3 million, 2017: Free Agent

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Love him as a player, but I will pass and let someone else give up a bunch for him.

The most I would give up would be a 3rd or a 4th. I'm not forking over anything more than that.

I would rather draft and develop a guy.

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I would give up our 4th rnd pick this year and a conditional 3rd rnd pick next year based on his health and playing time coming back from injury.


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I cannot see a team trading for Revis without being able to negotiate an extension if he can play out this year and then walk. It would make no sense for a team to rent a guy coming off an ACL for a year.

If he is willing to sign an extension, then it might make sense to pursue him.He should still have 3 seasons left as a top flight CB.

I don't know if we have the draft picks to make a deal though.


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Revis is to expensive, and he is damaged goods ... JMHO


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He wants QB money ($15mil and up). The Jets want a 1st round pick (to start discussions).

No thanks.


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He is expensive,, and he does have an ACL. An ACL is not something that is a death sentence though. In fact, he should be able to completely recover.

He is in the final year of his contract, if I'm not mistaken. He cannot be franchised if his deal expires .....no matter if it is for his current team, or if he plays for someone else.

Revis is a special talent ..... but he is probably not going to be back to 100% this season. Maybe he gets to 80%, which is still pretty damn good. He's worth an investment, but I don't know if we have the appropriate draft picks to make a deal.


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I think the other thing you have to consider is we already have our playmaking CB. Don't we just need someone reliable and pretty good and not so much a pro-bowl caliber player?

I'm not entirely sure of the situation but I would imagine Joe Haden is going to need a new contract in the near future? I would hate to have to cut good guys a la Flacco because we have so much money tied up in the secondary.

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I would be willing to give a 3rd and 4th round pick, and maybe a player or two as long as they were not big time impact players for him but not much more. Adding him would give us the best set of corners in the NFL without a doubt. We could then trade down once or twice and hopefully replace those lost picks. I won't hold my breath on the trade though...

Maybe we could swap 1st round picks and we can take Revis in the process? I wonder if the Jets would go for that? It let's them move up to take an impact player...



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I would be willing to give a 3rd and 4th round pick, and maybe a player or two as long as they were not big time impact players for him but not much more. Adding him would give us the best set of corners in the NFL without a doubt. We could then trade down once or twice and hopefully replace those lost picks. I won't hold my breath on the trade though...

Maybe we could swap 1st round picks and we can take Revis in the process? I wonder if the Jets would go for that? It let's them move up to take an impact player...




He would have to be willing t owork an extension as well. IIRC, this is his last year in his contract.

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The Jets want a 1st round pick (to start discussions).





Just bumping that part up again as it seemed to go by as a grain of salt would...Dawgs...they are not going to even talk if you don't come with 1st rounder in hand.

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And he wants "Quarterback money."

I think the Jets will struggle to get what they want for him. They want what the Vikings got for Harvin, but Harvin isn't coming off an ACL tear and didn't want a cap busting contract.

I would be willing to swap 1st round picks and give them our third. Elite players like Revis are never available.

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Close...He's signed through 2016, but the contract is voidable after this season.

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Are we willing to suffer a season of rehab with a guy that expensive?

I think that may be the one position behind possibly RB that's hardest to return from. Maybe even harder.

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Revis will have almost a year of recovery when the season starts because he got hurt early in the season.

I get your point, but it's not like RGIII who blew his ACL in the playoffs.

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Close...He's signed through 2016, but the contract is voidable after this season.




And he cannot be franchised again after the contract voids.

There is no value with a new team unless they work out a new deal in advance of trading for him.


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I think the Jets are screwed. The don't have the money to sign him to an extension, he can opt out after the 2013 season, and he can't be franchised.

Teams don't want to trade a lot for him because he is coming off an injury and he wants a huge extension.

Unless the Jets take a lot less than he is worth, I don't see Revis getting traded.

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the Jets are likely best off right now making him prove himself to the NFL next season and then getting back the compensatory selection for losing him in FA


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Not sure how he'll recover, but at one time he could have been the best corner in the league. I would pass though. We could paying huge dollars for just a name, especially if he doesn't recover to his old self....

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pass.

his contract means nothing to him... he just holds out until he gets what he wants. Soeven if you do sign him to an extension... it holds no water to Revis.


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That's why you don't give in to players who hold out. The Jets got themselves into this mess with the ridiculous contract they gave that included a promise of no franchise tag. It is made even worse by their overall cap situation.

About Revis you always have to explore adding a player of his caliber to your team. However with uncertainty around his injury, plus what it would cost in money and draft picks I highly doubt it would be a fit here. And that assumes that he even wants to come here-- all he has to do is make it be known that he won't sign an extension with a team and that most likely would kill the deal.

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Thank you for the insight. I saw his screwy contract. What team would sign something like that? "Here's $40-50 Million dollars and uhhh...you get $30 million of it even if you don't play and uhhh...if you turn out to be a superstar through our development of your natural skills you can thumb your nose at us, void half your contract, and walk away from us and there isn't squat we can do to keep you."

I like the statement about the Jets being screwed on this deal and knowing it. I'm sure that the insider gurus realize that. He might come cheap as far as a trade is concerned. As for his salary, he might just realize how far out of the market he's priced. imho he has crossed over that line of 'just how much is a man's labor worth?'

The ACL is definitely an iffy factor. A lot of guys come back and come back as strong or stronger. Some never recover. I had surgery on my shoulder for tears and have pins holding my rotator cuff in place, etc. And I tell ya what...after a year and a half, a long time rehabbing and two or three times a week toning exercises, it's still pretty rough and mobility is an issue. Of course that's a shoulder the supposedly most difficult of all joints.

Thanks for allowing me to pick your brains. Beats the hellouta picking my nose.


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