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The Browns have agreed to terms today with former Falcons cornerback Chris Owens, a league source told the Plain Dealer today.

Owens is expected to sign his contract today.

Owens (5-9, 180), was originally a third-round pick of the Falcons out of San Jose State in 2009.

Owens started one of his 12 games last season and broke up four passes.




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Chris Owens

12 starts in four years. Depth signing. Not a starter.

Hopefully we get the other Falcons corner.

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Potential slot cover guy? Guess we'll see ... but I've never been a fan of "smurf" cornerbacks. Even more so nowadays, with bigger, stronger, faster, more physical receivers .... Hope they're still looking at some others.

The more we drag our feet filling holes in the secondary, I'm thinking Milliner at # 6.

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oh good, another sub 5'10" corner.

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Milliner has to be there for us to take him, obviously. I doubt he is there at when we pick.

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oh good, another sub 5'10" corner.




Though, I admit, I like Daylon when he was here. He was a good cover guy, with better than average tackling ability (a rarely seen commodity these days).

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Hoping to see an upgrade over what we had last year, doesn't look like it here. Opposite of what I wanted (size) but I'll take it as we need the help.

Some real ball-hawks on that Falcon defense, I'll say that. Don't remember Owens but I Saw quite a few games here in NFC South turf. This guy didn't play much, and that's after the Grimes Injury.

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Off the top of my head wasn't Owens the other corner that came out with Coye Francis from San Jose state? I don't mind him for depth reasons potentially a nickel back more so dime back...but he's tiny and around Skrine size...I was saying it a lot on the other message board we need a bigger secondary with length to help reach and bat some of those passes away...as I often saw pretty good coverage at times last year...just our CBs were too short and short armed to get a hand on the ball

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Nothing more than competition for Wade and Bademosi. We will get a #2 whether it's Grimes or a pick. I love Skrine but clearly we need size.

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Potential slot cover guy? Guess we'll see ... but I've never been a fan of "smurf" cornerbacks. Even more so nowadays, with bigger, stronger, faster, more physical receivers .... Hope they're still looking at some others.





Not necessarily! True smurfs have difficulty covering bigger, stronger, and faster one on one, but if you consistently pressure QB's, you can use smurfs in zone coverages. QB's can't see a lurking smurf who becomes dangerous turning picks into pick-6!

If Browns were able to land Milliner, having Owens, Skrine, and Haden make for some interesting match-ups good mix of tall and strong with small and fast.

Not that it makes much of a difference but you do know Hanford Dixon was 5-11 weighed 186 and Frank Minnifield was 5-9 weighed 180. I understand teams are getting bigger and faster but that is not something new Harold Carmichael 6-8; Al Toon 6-4; Art Monk 6-3; Jerry Rice 6-2 to list a few in the late 80's. My point is given the right environment smurfs are equally effective.

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Potential slot cover guy? Guess we'll see ... but I've never been a fan of "smurf" cornerbacks. Even more so nowadays, with bigger, stronger, faster, more physical receivers .... Hope they're still looking at some others.





Not necessarily! True smurfs have difficulty covering bigger, stronger, and faster one on one, but if you consistently pressure QB's, you can use smurfs in zone coverages. QB's can't see a lurking smurf who becomes dangerous turning picks into pick-6!

If Browns were able to land Milliner, having Owens, Skrine, and Haden make for some interesting match-ups good mix of tall and strong with small and fast.

Not that it makes much of a difference but you do know Hanford Dixon was 5-11 weighed 186 and Frank Minnifield was 5-9 weighed 180. I understand teams are getting bigger and faster but that is not something new Harold Carmichael 6-8; Al Toon 6-4; Art Monk 6-3; Jerry Rice 6-2 to list a few in the late 80's. My point is given the right environment smurfs are equally effective.




I hope he turns out to be another Frank Minnifield ...


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It is abundantly clear that we are going CB with the first pick.

Personally, I'm praying they can orchestrate a trade-down, pick up a #2 and go for Trufant or Rhodes.

But for sure, they're going CB first.

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He's depth, hardly something to roll eyes at.

He can also recruit Grimes

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Sky is not falling. We need bodies at corner and this kid is in to push Wade. I mean really, who are our corners right now?

Haden, Skrine, Wade and Bademosi....

You can't head into the season with only four corners.

Either we get Grimes or we pick up Milliner at 6. No question.

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Not a bum...not a given starter. Young just getting it. Competition for that #2 CB or #3 slot or depth. ST. Did Grimes Sign somewhere? This should not change that FA pickup if available.

Hey he's our veteran CB...we're a young team - betcha he has a good motor n not afraid to tackle. Somebody who will contribute even if its on ST...what was his REP for ST? JMHO


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Front seven pressure let's them play "bigger" if we bring it. Hope we do more of it and less soft cover. Our cushions were awful, and we needed more regular press.


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Potential slot cover guy? Guess we'll see ... but I've never been a fan of "smurf" cornerbacks. Even more so nowadays, with bigger, stronger, faster, more physical receivers .... Hope they're still looking at some others.





Not necessarily! True smurfs have difficulty covering bigger, stronger, and faster one on one, but if you consistently pressure QB's, you can use smurfs in zone coverages. QB's can't see a lurking smurf who becomes dangerous turning picks into pick-6!

If Browns were able to land Milliner, having Owens, Skrine, and Haden make for some interesting match-ups good mix of tall and strong with small and fast.

Not that it makes much of a difference but you do know Hanford Dixon was 5-11 weighed 186 and Frank Minnifield was 5-9 weighed 180. I understand teams are getting bigger and faster but that is not something new Harold Carmichael 6-8; Al Toon 6-4; Art Monk 6-3; Jerry Rice 6-2 to list a few in the late 80's. My point is given the right environment smurfs are equally effective.






You just named All-Pro, HoF and GOAT caliber guys to prove your point.

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Potential slot cover guy? Guess we'll see ... but I've never been a fan of "smurf" cornerbacks. Even more so nowadays, with bigger, stronger, faster, more physical receivers .... Hope they're still looking at some others.





Not necessarily! True smurfs have difficulty covering bigger, stronger, and faster one on one, but if you consistently pressure QB's, you can use smurfs in zone coverages. QB's can't see a lurking smurf who becomes dangerous turning picks into pick-6!

If Browns were able to land Milliner, having Owens, Skrine, and Haden make for some interesting match-ups good mix of tall and strong with small and fast.

Not that it makes much of a difference but you do know Hanford Dixon was 5-11 weighed 186 and Frank Minnifield was 5-9 weighed 180. I understand teams are getting bigger and faster but that is not something new Harold Carmichael 6-8; Al Toon 6-4; Art Monk 6-3; Jerry Rice 6-2 to list a few in the late 80's. My point is given the right environment smurfs are equally effective.






You just named All-Pro, HoF and GOAT caliber guys to prove your point.

Fail.




Do you mean Owens,Skrine and Haden?


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" Last time I saw this guy he was stuck in a toaster against the packers in the playoffs. He may still be there……….and I’m a Falcons fan!!!"

" Chris Owens is a decent nickle corner, and a strong special teams guy. He never materialized into anything greater for us, and he had his chances. I will say this – this dude is blazing fast. He ran down a few guys over the years…"

" I was a huge Chris Owens hater I wanted him gone so bad. Hated that fool after the GB game (not all his fault though..a lot was BVG). Then last year he redeemed himself imo. Dont know if it was just him maturing or if Nolan helped out a lot or what. I just know I changed my opinion of him and thought he was a pretty good back up.

Now that I dont want him to leave…he leaves..lol. Oh well. Maybe its a sign Grimes is staying."

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Anyone think possibly in our studying of Grimes...Owens popped up in film n we took notice to him?

What if Grimes n Owens are best buds n Grimes stated we had to sign Owens first then he would sign... wouldn't that be nice.

3rd round pick...has speed n looks like he flies all over the place. Slot, ST n depth. better than any UDFA or league minimum guys we scramble for before the first game.

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j/c We don't need any more depth; we need starters!!!


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What was my point?

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j/c We don't need any more depth; we need starters!!!




Yes, it seems like we have "depth" all over at the CB position. This is much a do over nothing. But hey, he may be some slight upgrade in depth.

I guess we'll see but hopefully they aren't "counting" on Milner to be there. That's just way too much of a gamble to take at a much needed position.


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Yes, it seems like we have "depth" all over at the CB position. This is much a do over nothing. But hey, he may be some slight upgrade in depth.

I guess we'll see but hopefully they aren't "counting" on Milner to be there. That's just way too much of a gamble to take at a much needed position.




we cut Dmitrii Patterson. I see him as Dmitrii's replacement. so, he is needed depth.


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So it's a lateral move? How does that "help"? And if you plan to make a lateral move, why make any move in the first place?


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So it's a lateral move? How does that "help"? And if you plan to make a lateral move, why make any move in the first place?




Patterson was injured and commanding 3 mil a year. It saved us cap room. Assuming we add a #2 corner in grimes or the draft he will knock Bademosi off or down to the PS until someone gets hurt.

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Yes, it seems like we have "depth" all over at the CB position. This is much a do over nothing. But hey, he may be some slight upgrade in depth.

I guess we'll see but hopefully they aren't "counting" on Milner to be there. That's just way too much of a gamble to take at a much needed position.




we cut Dmitrii Patterson. I see him as Dmitrii's replacement. so, he is needed depth.




Maybe the plan is two fold. If Milliner is there. Take him. If not, trade back a few spots and grab Rhodes.

I assume there will be at least one LT and probably Gino there at 6. Someone will give us something to be able to get them.


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Our Corners:
Bademosi 22, Haden 23, Owens 26 (our new VET), Richardson (Kent) 25 No clue who he is, Skrine 23, Wade 23...

Haden we know is our #1 CB.

Bademosi, Skrine n Wade are 22, 23 n 23 - they are young n learning...who knows who is going to GET IT...and step up in the competition to take that #2 CB - Owens is a good option for #3 or #4. A good vet to lead - hey he's the OLD GUY

Do I think a CB will be gotten in the draft...YES Hopefully we will up our draft pick count somehow n get some quality picks as well

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Well in this years draft, a trade down is what I'm hoping for. Problem being, if we trade down, even the second best CB may not be there when we pick.

They certainly let a lot of much better CB's get by us in the FA market that were really reasonable price wise. I just hope that doesn't come back to bite them in the butt.

To say I'm questioning that logic would be a gross understatement. In a little over a month when the draft has concluded, we'll have a better idea how this gamble pays off for them.


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I agree with that plan. Hopefully, 2 of the 3 OTs are gone by our pick and Miami gets real antsy about landing the last one.


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Our depth was horribly exposed last year when Skrine was forced to start. Anything is better than nothing at this point. I'm still hoping we draft millner.

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Our depth was horribly exposed last year when Skrine was forced to start. Anything is better than nothing at this point. I'm still hoping we draft millner.






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My guess is Chud is familiar with him since he coached against the Falcons defense twice a year. He did have some starts. Not sure if it was when they played the Panthers. This guy played behind Grimes, Robinson, and Samuel. Best case scenario is this guy need a better shot to compete.

As far as Grimes is concerned, I think he was just market testing and will re-sign with ATL.


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As far as Grimes is concerned, I think he was just market testing and will re-sign with ATL.



Seemingly so. The longer we go without signing a true #2 CB in FA (or trade), the more obvious our #6 pick becomes...and the more difficult it will be to trade down.


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Not necessarily.

The best chances for a trade down are teams either interested in the available QBs or OTs, I think. That has nothing to do with what WE WANT more so teams competing with each other (or thinking they are) to move up a few spots. Maybe the price of the trade down decreases if team guesses Milliner is our target, but this team is switching defenses, offenses, coaches, etc. Anything can really happen and nothing will surprise me if we stay at #6, except taking an OT or 43 DT like Floyd. Bottom line, the less demand for other teams to trade up, the less it will cost to do so.

IMO the price of the trade down is based on the competition for the pick, a la the market value....just look back to last year for RG3. It had nothing to do with guessing what STL was trying to select at #2- it was all external factors. What we want to do may be in play, but that's contingent upon the number of teams looking to move up.


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To say I'm questioning that logic would be a gross understatement. In a little over a month when the draft has concluded, we'll have a better idea how this gamble pays off for them.




"LOGIC" ??? "GAMBLE" ???

Do you really think it was by design/plan ergo "Logic" - We know some FA just don't want to talk to teams...usually the top tier. We know if they do n are interested a visit is involved. All I got out of this FA period was NO Logical plan that we are doing or not doing regarding CBs. I see NO INTEREST in OUR TEAM for a couple of reasons.

1. The obvious System/Coach/FO/heck even Owner Turnover

2. Haden has the #1 CB position locked up. A lot of these guys don't wish to go to a team that doesn't need that #1 guy. They know when the cap hits the fan as the #2 they won't last long n see the length of the contract.

All I got is ONE FA CB Grimes that visited - WHY if our PLAN was not to go after a FA CB Why oh WHY would we bring one in here hoping to sign him???

So I don't think it was remotely a PLAN in this FA market to ignore CBs.

Hand in hand...I don't think this remotely was a Gamble as in we chose this fate as in a strategy. It just is what it is...

Btw...can anyone tell me if Grimes signed yet with anyone? Nah just checked he's still available.

The only other CB is Winfield - n the only LOGIC/PLAN we did employ in this FA market was not to go after Aging talent that would be Temporary Band-Aids. Winfield would be that aging talent.

Nnamdi? Hall? Jenkins? Possibly after the draft??? I would presume the only way they would sign here would be a one year contract.

I mean the only plan I see is for us not to throw some big $$$ at Winfield n Woodson which I'm sure many here would like to have.

But lets face it FA CB the best ones young w/Game are a hot commodity n aren't even looking to say hey to us.

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Don't know anything about the guy. With all the corners available, I was hoping we'd maybe sign someone a little more credible?

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