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See ya Colt. Although I don't think you've been granted the best/fair chance to succeed here, best of luck to you there!
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The real winner is McCoy. Trip to San Fran and he gets to keep his $2.25 million salary instead of getting cut and trying to re-sign.
As some pointed out, the 5th/6th swap isn't much, just a move at the end of the draft. The 7th rounder, Better than nothing, for sure. Possible ammo to make a move in the mid-rounds.
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JMHO...Lalich, Lalich, Lalich...lol 
Since you mentioned him everything I've read on him makes him one intriguing QB prospect...
A source close to and with experience coaching Lalich described the signal caller as a “football savant”, going on to call him a “real life Will Hunting” when it came to football.
Now we got room for him. 
Good-bye, good luck and good for you Colt.
And good for us on the board too. Now maybe we can quit banging on the guy. Heading into his fourth year he was about to enjoy his third head coach and third offensive system. Well, that's still gonna happen but it's outta here. I'll bet he's relieved and rejuvenated. When a team at the cusp of the Superbowl calls you up it's gotta make you feel good. Especially knowing they didn't want to wait until you were released or someone else traded for you.
Finally, after two years I feel good for the guy.
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The real winner is McCoy. Trip to San Fran and he gets to keep his $2.25 million salary instead of getting cut and trying to re-sign.
As some pointed out, the 5th/6th swap isn't much, just a move at the end of the draft. The 7th rounder, Better than nothing, for sure. Possible ammo to make a move in the mid-rounds.
For next to nothing in draft picks, we dropped his salary from our books and they picked up a player for whom they only pay the salary. If he proves himself to be good enough to be their backup, so be it, if not, they cut him before Game 1 and they are completely off the hook. It's Win-Win all around for the teams.
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That is kind of how I feel about it. Noone really "got the best" of one another IMO. Unless of course Colin gets injured and Colt comes in Colin did when Smith went down and takes over the starting role taking San Fran to another SB, lol! 
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Just clicking, but wasn't it a week or so ago that there were no plans to trade or cut McCoy? LOL
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JMHO...Lalich, Lalich, Lalich...lol
Since you mentioned him everything I've read on him makes him one intriguing QB prospect...
A source close to and with experience coaching Lalich described the signal caller as a “football savant”, going on to call him a “real life Will Hunting” when it came to football.
Now we got room for him.
Good-bye, good luck and good for you Colt.
And good for us on the board too. Now maybe we can quit banging on the guy. Heading into his fourth year he was about to enjoy his third head coach and third offensive system. Well, that's still gonna happen but it's outta here. I'll bet he's relieved and rejuvenated. When a team at the cusp of the Superbowl calls you up it's gotta make you feel good. Especially knowing they didn't want to wait until you were released or someone else traded for you.
Finally, after two years I feel good for the guy.
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Yes and no on the system. The Niners basically run a version of the West Coast with the added flavor of the Pistol. I don't know if their verbiage is the same but a good deal of their offense will likely be very familiar to McCoy. I suspect he will be up and running in their offense fairly quickly. He's also good at throwing on the run so the pistol stuff could suit him quite well.....
I wish him the best. I liked Colt. But the minute he took that hit from Harrison I knew he was probably done in Cleveland. He's going to make a very nice backup in San fran. But he just didn't fit here anymore.
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No. They said they wouldn't cut him and were looking to trade him.
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No. They said they wouldn't cut him and were looking to trade him.
Not exactly correct:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ss..._special-report
Here is the exact quote per MKC:
CEO Joe Banner told WKNR AM/850 a week ago the plan was to keep McCoy, but added "that's not etched in stone if somebody was interested in him."
He never said that they were looking to trade McCoy. Subtle difference..
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Not from me. I'm a little surprised, but not shocked. I'm glad that the Browns got something in return.
What's ironic is that he's closer to getting a Super Bowl ring than anyone on the Browns now.
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"Banner also said the Browns have no plans, for now, to release backup quarterback Colt McCoy, but they are open to trading him." Ohio.com
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To those disappointed in the compensation, we effectively got a late 6th worth of value.
Same that Baltimore got from San Fran for Boldin.
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I guess all those people who said Colt had no trade value had no clue what they were talking about.
LOL.....I suppose if you think no value means we wouldn't get anything for him.
We pretty much got nothing for him.
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So what does that mean in the balance? I don't know but it isn't worth a whole lot.
For the Niners, it makes sense. You get a 2nd/3rd string guy who has starting experience at our expense, not theirs, so that indeed has some value. It's better than some guy who never started or started maybe a game or two. When you are at the top of the heap, you can bring in a guy like that.
Kudos to Lombardi for getting us in to the 5th round from the 6th and picking up a 7th rounder.
It's a deep draft for decent players. The 5th might still offer a safety, or if it a 2nd pick in the round, the kicker we want....we do need to bring in one of those. By the top of the 5th, not many kickers have been selected in most years.
In a odd way, if Colt turns in to a 20 year kicker for us, he might have been one of the most valuable players we ever had.....so in a odd way, maybe you are right! 
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Although I think McCoy is better than Weeden, I'm happy that this front office is willing to trade away players that aren't expected to be used and acquire an additional pick.
We got a 5th and a 7th but gave up a 6th. The 5th we got won't be much above where either of the 6ths we hold (our own and Philly's) but we got the difference and a late 7th for him. That 7th is essentially a head start on the UDFA market.
All in all, it's not much changed except for the few spots we moved up from the 6th to the 5th round. For what it's worth, I approve.
Good luck to McCoy.
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Very true, but they are also absorbing Boldin's $6 million contract. That may have had to do with the Raven's low round compensation to shed money prior to FA and simply get rid of him.
But still, you're right it's essentially Colt for a 6th.
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To those disappointed in the compensation, we effectively got a late 6th worth of value.
Same that Baltimore got from San Fran for Boldin.
Well, I wouldn't say that. We got draft position and a late 7th for him. That's what we got.
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Another way to look at it is Campbell is a better fit for this offense, so that is an upgrade plus we got a pick out of it and dropped a small amount of salary for the trouble. That's not such a bad deal.
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That might be what.....8 slots.....I don't know how many comp picks might be slotted in between.....so as I said earlier....we have our kicker slot on the board if that is what we decide to do.....me, if I liked a kicker, I'd take him at the top of the 5th round..bottom of the 4th if we had one.
If you like a guy and he kicks for 20 years, you only do it once every 20 years, so no sense doing it on the cheap and losing out on a solid kicker because you wanted to wait another round.
Kickers are like any other position. When the good ones come around, you can't wait for the next round to come around. You might even be well suited to do it a round early seeing how infrequently you have to draft one.
Sounds dumb until the guy has kicked tons of 51 yarders at the gun to win games.
LOL....remember when the ref would fire a gun to signal the end of the half and the game?
I do.
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Getting another late pick might be how we get our next PK - Hopkins, Sturgis, Quinn. Happy for McCoy to go somewhere that wants him, and in an odd way, I'm happy for Lombardi who has been largely villified, for getting something for McCoy when most thought we'd get nada.
I heard a radio host - Bruce Hooley - wondering why Jim Harbaugh would want Colt McCoy. (Hooley has been a vocal critic of McCoy.) I thought to myself, because he's a good fit for the O they run, and maybe more importantly, McCoy's exactly the same kind of QB Harbaugh was. He just traded for himself. Okay, enough amateur psychology - I think its a good deal for everyone involved. Good luck, Colt.
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You can get special team players, kickers, and punters as undrafted free agents as well.
That's true, but you can get the one that you want instead of fighting people for signings.
If you wanted, you could sign a kicker and punter right now in free agency.
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That's true, but you can get the one that you want instead of fighting people for signings.
If you wanted, you could sign a kicker and punter right now in free agency.
I have never understood the mentality of being able to sign kickers off the street.
The good ones were almost all drafted....a 4th or 5th round selection on a kicker isn't uncalled for.
I am thinking seeking some reject on the street is.....just saying.
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Just clicking, but wasn't it a week or so ago that there were no plans to trade or cut McCoy? LOL
I think that was before they signed Campbell. That changed things with the QBs.
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Can we now also say that Colt McCoy was in "our plans" if Chip Kelly was going to be the head coach?
Forgot about that one ... why didn't the Chipster make a deal for McCoy? He has Shurmer and his 1 page, double-spaced, wide-margined, 24-point type playbook.
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To those disappointed in the compensation, we effectively got a late 6th worth of value.
Same that Baltimore got from San Fran for Boldin.
Why would San Fran give us picks at all?? I still don't know how the heck we pulled this off. I mean they had to think we were gonna be releasing him. We should feel really good about this!!
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To those disappointed in the compensation, we effectively got a late 6th worth of value.
Same that Baltimore got from San Fran for Boldin.
Why would San Fran give us picks at all?? I still don't know how the heck we pulled this off. I mean they had to think we were gonna be releasing him. We should feel really good about this!!
Yeah I would have bet an easy 350 bucks that Colt wouldn't even have enough trade value for a last round pick. I eat my words now!
People should feel good about this. May not be a full cup of coffee, but even a sip is better than nothing lol...
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To those disappointed in the compensation, we effectively got a late 6th worth of value.
Same that Baltimore got from San Fran for Boldin.
Why would San Fran give us picks at all?? I still don't know how the heck we pulled this off. I mean they had to think we were gonna be releasing him. We should feel really good about this!!
The only things I can think of, and it could easily be the case, is that at least one other team was interested in trading for Colt. SF didn't want to lose out in a trade, and maybe SF didn't want to risk competing in the open market. San Fran, with a plethora of draft picks, could stand to have a net loss of one draft pick while adding a backup with starting experience.
The only thing that was curious to me was his salary as a backup but someone mentioned they could release him at some point and not be stuck with the remaining contract. Not sure if that's true though.
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Same that Baltimore got from San Fran for Boldin.
Why would San Fran give us picks at all?? I still don't know how the heck we pulled this off. I mean they had to think we were gonna be releasing him. We should feel really good about this!!
Yeah I would have bet an easy 350 bucks that Colt wouldn't even have enough trade value for a last round pick. I eat my words now!
People should feel good about this. May not be a full cup of coffee, but even a sip is better than nothing lol...
Exactly....this is the type of stuff we would do. Give up picks for nothing. Colt wins in this too. If he can stay on their roster, he will be making WAY more than he would have otherwise.
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Most importantly the Browns continue to incrementally expand their draft options. I feel as if this is just a piece of a larger plan that may eventually get the team a 2nd round selection.
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jc It looks like this FO wants nothing to do with locker room drama. Everyone that's been a story is now gone, (with the exception of Weeden).
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Most importantly the Browns continue to incrementally expand their draft options. I feel as if this is just a piece of a larger plan that may eventually get the team a 2nd round selection.
I was wondering that as well - I think the FO had no plans on keeping McCoy long term and were actively shopping him with the hopes of getting something for him
With picking up another later rounder it just gives us a better chance to trade up if there's someone in the second we're looking at - I wouldn't be surprised at all if we made a trade or two during the draft
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Awesome move for Colt.... I always liked him, never had a problem with him. Good luck!!!
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If I were in charge I might try and drop out of the first round altogether.
Stockpile first rounders in 2014 and you'd know going in whether Weeden worked out or not.
Spend a year implementing new offensive and defensive schemes and bring in either a big influx of top end talent next year or have the ammo to get the top qB in the draft.
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JMHO...Lalich, Lalich, Lalich...lol
Since you mentioned him everything I've read on him makes him one intriguing QB prospect...
A source close to and with experience coaching Lalich described the signal caller as a “football savant”, going on to call him a “real life Will Hunting” when it came to football.
Now we got room for him.
Good-bye, good luck and good for you Colt.
And good for us on the board too. Now maybe we can quit banging on the guy. Heading into his fourth year he was about to enjoy his third head coach and third offensive system. Well, that's still gonna happen but it's outta here. I'll bet he's relieved and rejuvenated. When a team at the cusp of the Superbowl calls you up it's gotta make you feel good. Especially knowing they didn't want to wait until you were released or someone else traded for you.
Finally, after two years I feel good for the guy.
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I read about him a few months ago too and I'm really intrigued. I'd like to snag him in the draft.
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JC Link Browns had one other team interested in McCoy If the 49ers fleeced the Chiefs in the trade that sent Alex Smith to Kansas City, the 49ers experienced a minor fleecing of their own in giving up a fifth-round pick and a seventh-round pick to the Browns for quarterback Colt McCoy. McCoy was the odd man out in Cleveland, destined to be cut if the Browns couldn’t trade him. Amazingly, the Browns’ front office pulled off a deal for a guy they didn’t want. It helped that one other team, we’re told, was pursuing McCoy. If McCoy had been cut, the 49ers would have been behind that team in the waiver order — unless the other team was the Ravens. And that ended up being the key for the Browns. The Niners wanted McCoy, who has only three years of NFL service. To get him, the 49ers had to pull off a trade; otherwise, the other team would have had dibs via the waiver process. Still, getting anything for a fourth-year player due to make $1.5 million to sit on the bench in 2013 is a bonus for the Browns, who now have one extra selection in the draft and one pick higher than it would have been.
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Shoddy reporting bothers me. A fifth and a seventh is a far greater deal than we got.
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Ya that makes alot of sense and he did leave out the fact that they got colt and one of our 6.  O ya also good luck to you colt hope things work out for you
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Every year I am optimistic that the Browns are going to do better than the year before (you would think that wouldn't be so difficult!) I have never been this pessimistic...I think the Browns are making mistake after mistake and trading Colt is just another one. What I remember of Campbell, he wasn't very good. Hopefully Weeden shows us something next year and it's all a mute point. The way this is going, I just feel like they are going to make another stupid decision when the draft comes...I don't think I can take much more of this. I guess we are trying to sure up our #1 pick in the 2014 draft.
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