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I just see how those two have worked closely in the past.
In fact it's one of the few times I've heard him speak..
Even Ted called him coach Crennel when he first came..so I know the whole team isn't doing it..I'm more concerned HOW they play this Sunday..

The Players support is, in my mind, a non factor. If Procter and Gamble change CEO's I doubt management gives a fig about what the hourly workers think. Crennel gets a one year pass from me this year....but if, at this point in the season next year, we have a comparable record to the one we have now, with pitchfork in hand I will be Storming Berea.

It's the factor a GM gauges IF HE FEELS the team is rebelling against the coach vs no talent or the coach not maximizing the talent.

I'll concede that point Attack. As long as you concede mine that if things remain the same next year a visit to Home Depot will be in order. <img src="/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

[color:"white"]In my own twisted, dimented mind, this was always a 4-5 year plan, where the march towards .500 ended at the 3rd season, and the march towards the playoffs stopped in the 4th or 5th years.

So, with that in mind, if we're still in this position at this time next year, something has to be blown up, barring unforseen, catastrophic circumstances. [/color]

Forgive me Mr. Toad(shades of wind in the willows )I won't presume to guess your age but wrightly or wrongly I hail from the "instant gratification" generation(early 20's).During my ENTIRE career as Browns fan we have not been very good. If I seem impatient please attribute it to my age. I want us to win YESTERDAY! <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I go to Lowes instead of Home Depot <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I get what you're saying..and even though it's known about the plan..if the GM/Owner feel the players have lost all respect for the HC, they won't wait, because the product will get uglier...like Odd Lots..as long as the team is progressing and it's under control the plan stays on.

Now this came from Pat McManamon's article
[color:"red"] Romeo Crennel apparently bad-mouthed the team in the locker room after the game. Told the quitters to get out. Berated them. Kind of lost it, from what I'm told.
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So truth is, they're going shoppin ' anyway after season's end to get rid of QUITTERS..that will happen first.

Hey if RAC isnt offended bye it, why are we talking about it,

Respect is given in many diffrent ways, everyone has thier own ideas or feeling about respect.

" If I have to ask my men for respect, than I surley haven't earned it"
General George Patton

[color:"white"]Hehehe........Presume all you wish. I'll deny, deny, deny <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

At 35, I haven't seen many winners here in my time. In fact, you were probably crawlin' on the floor while I was peddalin' my bicycle the last time the Browns were actually a very good team. The toughest thing to do is to maintain patience when the need to succeed becomes overwhelming.

I happen to agree with you in that if things are like this next year, something will have to change. What that change may be is only a guess, but it'll have to come none-the-less. [/color]

This quote is suspect to me! I wonder who the quitters are? Druzzi, Coleman, Shaffer, RD, BE? We know it's not K2, JJ, Frye, Cribbs, Sean Jones, Wimbley, D'qwell, Willie, Ted, Pool, Zastudil, Bodden even Holly and Cutt. I didn't mention Tucker because he's in a seperate category with a mystery illness; hope he gets better soon! So who are the quitters?

Well who consistantly performs like Charlie Brown?
No not all of them <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
I won't speculate..at least not in here yet.
But if U see certain guys NOT brought back, certain players released or traded, you'll know if you remember the comments.

Lincoln

Savage speaks, supports Crennel
Zac Jackson, Staff Writer
11.30.2006

Thursday morning, Phil Savage told Romeo Crennel he wanted to "put an end to all this" speculation and innuendo regarding Crennel's future with the Browns.

Then, Savage said it publicly.

The Browns' general manager came to his coach's defense, pledging 100 percent support from within the organization and calling public attacks on Crennel "unfair" and "ridiculous."

"(Team owner) Randy Lerner and I are 100 percent behind Romeo," Savage said. "We've done everything in our power to support him. We're going to do everything in our power to support him the next five games, this offseason and next year.

"We're in this together."

It's been a difficult season for the 3-8 Browns, and home losses to division rivals in the last two weeks haven't made things any easier. Savage stressed the need to stick together as the Browns try to move forward -- something he said he, Crennel and Lerner have discussed at length and are committed to doing.

"The bottom line is we're on the same page," Savage said. "That's the most important thing in any of these organizations."

Savage said Crennel "has the respect of the team. We believe in him."

The Browns hit their 2006 low point last week in a 30-0 loss to the Bengals. TV cameras caught Braylon Edwards in a sideline argument with teammates after the fourth of the Browns' five turnovers. The incident capped a tumultuous week for Edwards, who had been late to a team meeting after attending the Ohio State-Michigan game and had publicly criticized the team's red zone play-calling.

Savage said he was confident that Crennel had handled the Edwards' situation correctly and "in-house," and that Edwards will learn from his mistakes. Edwards apologized earlier this week.

"Are we disappointed in the way he handled his emotions? Yes," Savage said. "Do we like the enthusiasm? Yes. Do we like that he actually was trying to take up for the quarterback? Yes.

"It has been discussed with him to an extreme level. It has been handled by Romeo and other staff members. I think it has been put to rest.

"Braylon had a bad week, there's no two ways about it. But I think it will be a thing of the past. We're comfortable going forward that he's going to do the right thing."

About Edwards arriving late to a team meeting the night before the Steelers game after taking a helicopter from the Ohio State-Michigan game, Savage said, "part of it is a maturity issue. If he gets back three minutes earlier it's not an issue. He didn't. He's suffered the consequences for it."

Edwards is one of several high-profile players who spoke out in support of Crennel earlier this week. The players have vowed to stick together and put together a stronger showing this week when the Browns host the Chiefs, and Savage said he believes Crennel get the best out of the team for the final five games.

"One of the real attractions to Romeo is that he understands it's a team game," Savage said. "It's not a one-man show. It never has been; it never will be. Guys realize for us to win it has to be all three phases meshed together."

Among the other subjects Savage discussed...

**On quarterback Charlie Frye: "We were really hopeful that Charlie could avoid that kind of game (last week) and he had done that up to this point in the year. For the most part, we've been able to play a style throughout the year that can accentuate some of the things he can do and stay away from some of the things he's not up to speed with.

"I think he's handled the situation quite well. All of the focus is going to go to the head coach and the quarterback. We need to improve as an offense in general. One of the things we have to figure out is (to) find out who we are as an offense. Are we going to focus on the run, the pass or try to do a combination? What is our approach?

"Now that there are 16 games under Charlie's belt, I think we have a better idea of where we need to go in terms of helping him in certain areas and trying to capitalize on what he can do. I've said all along that he has enough arm strength, accuracy and mobility. He's a good leader, he's tough and he has a great work ethic. There are a lot of positives to build on."

**On rumors that Savage wants a reduced role or plans to leave the Browns: "Absolutely totally false. It's never been one thought for one second that I wanted to do less or have a reduction of duties. It's ludicrous."

**Savage said the team's biggest concern regarding Ryan Tucker "is for Ryan the person. We want him to get his health back. We want him to get his life back."

Savage said Daylon McCutcheon had microfracture surgery on his knee in the last month and is rehabbing in California. DeMario Minter "made good progress" in his three weeks at practice, but the Browns have decided to keep him on PUP and allow him to go through an entire offseason before returning to full-time, full-speed action.

Blah,blah,blah,everythings fine.
This was noteworthy;
DeMario Minter "made good progress" in his three weeks at practice, but the Browns have decided to keep him on PUP and allow him to go through an entire offseason before returning to full-time, full-speed action.
Good move,very smart.Allow the kid time to heal and get stronger.In a coupla years he should be a strong contributor to the team.

I'm amazed at how many poeple think that Romeo and Phil were going to turn this thing around in less than 2 years. What kind of record were these poeple expecting this year?

They took over a team that had little to no talent. The couple of good players that came from the last moron were very young and are just starting to show some potential.

Year one they had to take out the trash. Year 2 they start filling the holes.

Those holes consisted of roughly 20 of 24 starting positions (I didn't break it down entirely but feel free to prove me wrong) not to mention the back ups and special teams.

All of those holes can't possibly be filled in just one off season. This is really only year one of a rebuild. They didn't take over a team that only had to fill a couple of spots. They took over a team that had to be completely torn down and rebuilt.

I know poeple are tired of hearing about patience but try to be realistic in your expectations and you won't be ready to give up on this regime already.

Amen! Amen! Timothyman, shoorly yore bound for the pearly gates someday, tis man after me own heart, you are. No matter, they won't be listening to us, some of them but, we can only try to reason a wee bit, now can't we lad, and hope for the best that they will grasp situation as it is. Here's to you lad, and many more. <img src="/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" />

i dont know how much control he exercised on our offense, but we really have to hit the bullseye on an offensive coordinator this year. he is fine as the HC imo