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Without turning this into a Brandon Weeden thread, which QB would you draft and realistically at what point would you draft him?
A sentence or two devoted to Weeden, may be needed to illustrate your choice, but just don't want another dozen pages devoted to why we like or don't like Weeden.
My choice would be Mike Glennon at pick 104 (4th round). Physical abilities match the Norv Turner offense. Although, Norv did not draft him, NC State connection to Norv's former QB, Phillip Rivers, sometimes relationships among coaches and colleges are underlying reasons for selections. Glennon is young enough to groom behind Weeden, regardless of Weeden being succesful or not. He may or may not last to 104, the way teams will reach for a QB.
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I'm really not a fan of anybody coming out this year.. But reports are that Turner was impressed with Barkley.. He is someone you'd have to take at 6 to get him..
I wouldn't, but that's just me.
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I am not of fan of Barkley, either.
With all of our team needs and most importantly, the QB quality or lack thereof, in this draft, I wouldn't draft a QB till the 4th round (matching perceived availability).
Of course, if Geno Smith drops to the late 2nd round, I would consider trading up to get him, but I do not see him falling that far.
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EJ Manuel in round3 for me.
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Although, Norv did not draft him, NC State connection to Norv's former QB, Phillip Rivers, sometimes relationships among coaches and colleges are underlying reasons for selections.
So Turner has a relationship with N.C. State because that's where Phil Rivers went to college? But Turner was not with the Chargers when Rivers was drafted. And the current coach at N.C. State (Dave Doeren) has worked there for about five minutes. And the coach prior to him (Tom O'Brien) didn't coach Phil Rivers.
Other than all that Norv Turner is directly connected to the N.C. State program. He is practically a booster.
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Sean Renfree- Duke. 7th Round.
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Landry Jones in the 4th round.
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Exactly, lol.
Stranger relationships have been bonded. My point was that sometimes one coach from one staff, becomes friends with another coach and they exchange more information with that befriended coach.
Easy enough to follow, right.
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Although, Norv did not draft him, NC State connection to Norv's former QB, Phillip Rivers, sometimes relationships among coaches and colleges are underlying reasons for selections.
So Turner has a relationship with N.C. State because that's where Phil Rivers went to college? But Turner was not with the Chargers when Rivers was drafted. And the current coach at N.C. State (Dave Doeren) has worked there for about five minutes. And the coach prior to him (Tom O'Brien) didn't coach Phil Rivers.
Other than all that Norv Turner is directly connected to the N.C. State program. He is practically a booster.
To take that a step further, NC State is in the same state as North Carolina.... so, I think this all clearly means that Norv is going to pull strings to bring back Butch Davis.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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Greg Little is a Tar Heel, as well.
It is all so clear, when you just connect the dots.
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Colby Cameron, LA Tech, 7th round He holds the NCAA record for 444 pass attempts without an INT. He's also Jordan Cameron's brother and a pretty good athlete too 
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I would not draft a QB this year. At all. I'm tired of investing 3rd rounders in QBs. There's a reason why most of them fell to the 3rd round: they're lacking elite talent, especially lately when there's been such a premium on QBs that teams routinely overreach for guys (the Tom Bradys notwithstanding). I'd rather see what we have with Weeden and Campbell this year. If Weeden lights it up, then great, we have a QB.
If not, then it means we suck for a year and are in a position to get a PREMIER QB prospect next year. Looking at the projections, there are 4 QBs next year (Bridgewater, Manziel, Fales, Boyd) that are top 10 projections and would be chosen over Geno Smith this year. If we suck, then I'd rather go with one of those, then rely on the likes of EJ Manuel/Colt McCoy/Charlie Frye and other late-round failed Browns QBs.
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If we had to take a qb in the draft, then django's scenario would be my ideal realistic one.
If New Orleans doesn't pick up a backup QB, I could see Cameron going there in the fifth or sixth.
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Peter Lalich round 6 or 7.
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Hopefully just a UDFA.
I have trouble disagreeing with people who like EJ or Bray.. but I just don't see the point. At QB you need a top 10 player to succeed, and the chances of anyone outside of the first round becoming that is so rare.
Something about picking up Billy Winn in the 6th last season really soured me on late round QBs. 1st round or nothing for me.
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Tyler Bray , Tennessee in the 4th round
While I really felt he underacheived in College he did have a very good showing at the combine. He also has the arm that Norv and Chud like in a QB. Would be a QB that can be groomed.
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I say wait and see how Weeden does this year, we have a capable backup, so lets use our picks on something other than another QB ... JMHO 
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I'm not that big of a fan of any QB this year. That being said, I'd throw the 7th rounder from SF at Matt Brown from Illinois State just to make sure we had a chance at him instead of UDFA.
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I would rather get another CB or LB that might be a steal ... JMHO
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I'm a fan of Tyler Wilson, I think of all the QBs in this draft, he very well could end up being the best pro.
Yeah, there are a lot of knocks on him, like his small hands and that had a senior poor year. But I watch the tape and if you look past his inconstant mechanics, there is a quarterback who makes quick reads, rarely locks on to a his primary receiver, has good pocket awareness, makes NFL throws, and when his mechanics are good, is an incredibly accurate quarterback. Not to mention, he's also supposed to be a good leader and have all the intangibles.
Hard to say exactly where he'll be drafted, I've seen him mocked anywhere from 1st to 5th rounds, but if he's available in round 3 and especially in round 4, I'd surely take a flyer on him.
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I say this. X2
Dont we have a third string QB who looked pretty good when given a shot and might be able to be developed further? 
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Zero question about this and we've been looking hard at him for weeks now. Zac Dysert QB Miami OH 6'3" 231 FOURTH ROUND Strengths Looks like an NFL quarterback, and has more room to add muscle to his frame. Keeps a solid base, active feet, and has a reliable over-the-top delivery for his accurate passes to all levels of the field. Good athlete for his size, able to sidestep and run away from blitzers in the backfield while usually keeping his eyes downfield to see if a receiver breaks open. Picks up first downs, or simply gets something out of nothing, with his feet. Shows the strength, in terms of body and arm, to get passes off with defenders hanging off his body in the pocket. Will get out of bounds instead of taking a hit on the run. Has experience both under center and in shotgun, but played in more of a shotgun spread scheme during his senior year. Flashes anticipation on crossing routes to hit his man on the run. Throws accurately on the move to his left or right, and will stop to set his feet if there’s time on moving pockets. His arm is strong enough to fling the ball 40 yards downfield on the run, and also to throw in tight windows over the middle. Flashes great placement on fades and sideline throws, puts ball on his man’s shoulder where only he can catch it. Good strength to pull down the ball at the last minute as well as step through tackle attempts in the pocket. Communicates with receivers pre-snap if he sees something worth exploiting in the defense. Big body and quick feet are helpful on quarterback sneaks. Mechanically sound overall. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/zac-dysert?id=2539258
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I don't want a developmental QB..
If Weeden isn't the guy this year, you get "the guy" next year...
All developmental QBs do is make you miss out on good QBs..
(Still blame Charlie Frye for us not being in the Drew Breestakes)
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Dont we have a third string QB who looked pretty good when given a shot and might be able to be developed further?
I don't have a link, but Mary Kay is saying we're releasing him & really going after Mallet... 
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I liked Glennon's skill set also...I don't if he will be there in the 3rd let alone 4th...all depends how far the top guys drop...OUT of the First Round maybe Glennon will drop there.
So far we have visited or visits with: Geno Smith, Scott, Nassib n Manuel
And as was reported supposedly Norv Turner was impressed with Barkley at his workout.
I would say the odds are pretty good that we will take a QB - I don't think we will take one at #6...possibly a trade back situation??? But more than likely w/our 3rd round pick.
Out of those we are looking at I would say Nassib if there would be a probable pick as well as Manuel. Scott 3rd or 4th rounder? My personal value pick is Lalich in the 6th or maybe now with our new 7th round pick!
But it looks like we are going to get a developmental QB...not a QB that will be looked at for the starter. Then again Colt was not even to get reps in 2010 n he ended up starting 
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unless Dysert goes several rounds later than Manuel (which he could), then I don't understand the fascination with him. he is a less successful QB from a defense-weak conference than Manuel with pretty much the same skillsets across the board.
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Dont we have a third string QB who looked pretty good when given a shot and might be able to be developed further?
I don't have a link, but Mary Kay is saying we're releasing him & really going after Mallet...
Wait...what?
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Dont we have a thirß string QB who looked pretty good when given a shot and might be able to be developed further?
I don't have a link, but Mary Kay is saying we're releasing him & really going after Mallet...
Wait...what?
Thaddeus Lewis going bye bye. I have several Backer clubs discussing it on Facebook but no links to actual reports...
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Amen to that... I might even go 6th round. You avoid a controversy like you would get the first time Weeden struggled if a 3rd round QB or higher was on the bench.. Renfree has decent size at 6'3" 220, above average arm, and probably the smartest QB in the draft (and I'm talking Xs and Os smart, not academically smart... though he is that too)... and Coach Cutcliff sort of knows his QBs...
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Give Thaddeus more time. We finaly see a guy, who can play fake, pump fake, look off a safety, stand tall in the pocket, and has command pressence... and after one start, give up on him. Yay Cleveland.
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I would take a QB in the 3rd, EJ Manuel, Landry Jones, or Tyler Bray in that order. BTW I do have a higher rating on all 3 than I did on Weeden. In most years these would be the late first round Qbs.
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I would take a QB in the 3rd, EJ Manuel, Landry Jones, or Tyler Bray in that order. BTW I do have a higher rating on all 3 than I did on Weeden. In most years these would be the late first round Qbs.
With the Read Option trend, I don't see EJ Manuel getting out of the second round. Not saying he's a second round talent, but someone will snatch him up because of his ability to run.
Bray is a guy I think I like. I watch and just fall in love with his arm and the throws he can make. Then the next play he just drives you crazy by his inconsistency and decision making. For better or worse, and this may work for us, he reminds me a lot of DA but with better touch on the short routes.
Not against a Bray selection, but I'm not sure I'd be "gay for Bray" as my friend so elegantly calls his love of Bray as a prospect.
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Barkley at 6.
We know Lombardi loves him. And Norv is raving about him. And a QB at 6 would represent the best value at that spot.
And I will throw up.
And then I'll move on and hope for the best.
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I had a pretty good season in my Saturday pick up games this year. We play to 12, and my record was 7-3. I'd average about 10 passing TDs, 2 rushing TDs, and 2 INTs a week. Great ratio if you ask me. I was adept at feeling the pressure from the one man rusher. I was able to get my one man OL lined up correctly, and I knew where the safety was at all times. I was particularly good at hearing when the rusher got to 5 Mississippi...a skill that is not easy to acquire.
I can do it if they would just give me a shot, and I proved it on Saturdays this past year.
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I have looked at all her tweets and articles and nothing suggest Lewis is leaving. Not that's it a big deal if he does... And Mallet has been rumored since the day Lombardi was rumored to come here back in 2012.
But nothing new on that front is coming from her from everything I've looked up.
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NO NO NO... go with Weeden, Campbell and the 3RD stringer and pick one up with the plethora of QBs coming out next year. JMHO
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