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From PFT Browns wideout Massaquoi visits Texans Posted by Darin Gantt on April 5, 2013, 10:50 AM EDT For a guy whose receiving yardage numbers have declined each season since his rookie year, there’s suddenly a market for Mohamed Massaquoi. The former Browns wide receiver could soon be making a decision between a pair of AFC South teams. According to Aaron Wilson of the Baltimore Sun, Massaquoi visited the Texans, in addition to a previously reported trip to see the Jaguars. If all things are equal (i.e. money), it’s hard to envision him picking the Jaguars over a playoff contender with vacancies at his position, unless he’s just looking for a paid vacation.
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w/ the Texans moving on from Walter, the opportunity actually might be better in Houston as well. get to play opposite of Andre w/ Owen underneath and Arian running?
hope he signs there.
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Always liked MoMass. He wasn't a bad WR, just wasn't a no. 1 WR. I can't blame him if we overdrafted him. Not his fault.
I think his health is an issue. With those concussions, it affects his ability/willingness to go over the middle, IMO.
One thing I will say for him, though, is I always thought he was a really good downfield blocker. Yeah yeah, big deal if your WR is a good blocker, but it does make a difference.
I'm not going to lose any sleep over him being gone, but I hope he plays well wherever he goes.
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I think that he could have been a solid #2 ........ if he could have stayed healthy.
Unfortunately, he never could, so now he's gone.
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Never been a fan of his ... he has a ton of negatives and other than his blocking (and i agree thats huge brownsfan but u need to be a productive reciever before i really care about any wr's blocking skills ... do i want them to be able to block .. absolutely .. but it can't be there first and IMO only strength ... ) ... i'm not usre he has any other positives ..
- he doesn't have great hands .. there average at best ...
- hes not fast ... he has average speed ..
- hes not physical at all ...
- he may the worst I've ever seen at adjusting for the ball ..
your also right that its not his fault we overdrafted him ... fact is I'm not sure this kid should have been drafted at all ... and who ever gets him will find that out sooner as opposed to later ...
if he goes to the texans he'll never see the field ... maybe there slot guy ... maybe .. they need a speed guy opposite Andre and they will get one in the draft .. bank it ..
see u later NoMass ....
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Lets look at this from an old perspective... Great another player gone all this does is greate another hole on the roster  ( dang I tried to do that pruple thing, but it didn't work...) Now we know how many holes it takes to fill Albert Hall. Seriously, I always like Momass, thought he had potential and tried... but never could stay up right. Good luck to him.
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Said it pre-draft, post-draft and after every season...and yet to be proven wrong: Massaquoi was, is and always will be a backup no2 WR, a number 4/5 depth WR with no ST (or any) upside whatsoever, who will be a well below AVG starter if you let him start. He's as dime a dozen as it gets and you can find guys like him in every draft in the 7th round or even UDFA. Yeah, it's not his fault he was drafted in the 2nd round, it was Mangini's...and I'm still incredibly angry about it because it set us back for years. Go look at that 2nd round of an incredibly deep class. There are only 5-10 busts in it and Mangini managed to draft 3 of them  The proverbial blind monkey would have done better
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If I was the Texans I would sign MoMass to a contract. They need wr help even if they draft one in first couple rnds. Posey tore Achilles, but before that showed some promise, yet this and fact they cut Walter they need some bodies.
Now not sayin MoMass is answer but less pressure there due to Andre J, and if healthy Mo could definitely contribute to a team that is on verge. Also change of scenery would be good for him.
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So you're saying drafting Veikune, Robiskie, and Massaquoi in the second round was a bad decision?
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So you're saying drafting Veikune, Robiskie, and Massaquoi in the second round was a bad decision?
Still hurts to read or think about....
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So you're saying drafting Veikune, Robiskie, and Massaquoi in the second round was a bad decision?
Still hurts to read or think about....
That was not a good 2nd round  although if massaquoi can overcome his injuries he could be a good player ... JMHO 
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So you're saying drafting Veikune, Robiskie, and Massaquoi in the second round was a bad decision?
Wow. How awful is that?
Maybe I guess it's possible he could be an ok coach.
But damn, if someone needs to pick the players for this guy.
Man, did he set this team back.
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I've always thought that if there is any position to hit in free agency it is WR. Proven guys are always there. RB not far behind.
For some reason, we prefer to use our 2nd round draft picks and hope they can start as rookies. I do not get it. At all. Give me some proven veteran WRs and use those 2nd rounders in the trenches.
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The 09 draft was one of the worst drafts in Browns history. Absolutely the worst draft since the return. Set us back years.....
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So you're saying drafting Veikune, Robiskie, and Massaquoi in the second round was a bad decision?
Still hurts to read or think about....
are you saying that everyone screaming for Shady McCoy at the time was right?
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I like the potential of the younger Wrs the texans have vs momass
I thout Martin, posey, and James had decent rookie years and all three show promise
Guess if momass is healthy he'd be a nice addition to the texans who need either one of those young guys to step up or to find a legit number 2 behind Andra
The problem is AJ is also getting older so I'm sure the texans are also thinking about needing someone who can eventually take over the number 1 spot - that's not momass
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Massaquoi signed with the Jaguars.
well, someone tweeted that the Texans were thinking about trading up for Patterson after seeing it on our mock draft thread here, so he really had no choice.
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Momass was a good WR, he ran good routes and caught the ball, but it just seemed to me that every time he got tackled- it was some of the hardest hits I've seen a WR take. It was like every time he got hit he'd get up saying, "Why are they hitting me so hard coach?" Poor Momass. Good luck with the Jags, as long as it's not against us. Maybe Momass will develop into Geno Smiths goto guy? Maybe.
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Obviously they didn't learn with Robiski. 
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A Massaquoi thread? Really?
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Player selected after Mack but before Robiskie:
Percy Harvin
Michael Oher
Clay Matthews
Hakeem Nicks
Players selected after Robiskie but before Massaqoui in the 2nd round:
Jairus Byrd
Connor Barwin
Max Unger
Player selected after Massaquoi but before Veikune in the 2nd round:
Andy Levitre
Players selected after Veikune in the 2nd round:
LeSean McCoy
Phil Loadholt
William Moore
Paul Kruger
Sebastian Vollmer
Sean Smith
Does Matthews, Unger, McCoy, and Loadholt seem better than Mack (who I like and is very good), Robiskie, Massaquoi, and Veikune, or is it just me?
(I know this is an exercise in futility, but it is still fun(?) to look back and see what could have been. At the time I thought we were taking Clay Matthews for sure.)
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Man we you break it down like that, . I mean WOW what could have been.
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The players I was calling for at the time were:
1: Matthews
2a: McCoy
2b: Loadholt
2c: Kruger
c'est la vie.
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Loadholdt... UGH!!! an not believe we passed on him, just imagined him tucked in between Mack and Schwartz
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hehehe...I never pimped WRs not with our needs...well actually believe it or not I did pimp Blackmon up a bit last draft.
09 2nd round was a disaster...Kokinos man where was your head at...of course he might be the only GM in the history of NFL Football to get fired like within 7 months of being hired...(not positive of the exact time but good guess???)
MoMass was the best of the 3 - not a difficult feat.
But he improved - not a little but a lot. He had good hands not great but good. He worked at it hard. By year 3 his route running got there n I would consider him a bonafide NFL Wide WR.
Stats...you cannot judge any Air Impact player too much from STATS on our team cause there was none.
What did him in was that vicious hit he took from Harrison in 2010 (year 2) tough way to learn to actually read a defense n know when a zone is on you or man...had to sit in the zone but he continued n got creamed.
After that hit I saw alligator arms over the middle n a little hesitation. Northcutt took a vicious hit when he was a rookie n it took him at least 3 years to finally come around.
Difference was Momass continued to get creamed n was getting concussion after concussion.
Without his hit in 2010 n continue concussions - I think he would have been the best WR we drafted since 99. Not great but very solid. You win Championships via Solid n more than one...great? Make great plays but don't win Championships. My personal opinion. But history has proven me right. 3 Best WRs I know of over the past 8-10 years. Andre Johnson, Fitz n Calvin...none winning a Championship. I won't go further than that.
Back to MoMass - Jaguars huh...Aaron Ross just made the statement of having a paid vacation...thought it was odd the author of the article wrote that...who stole who's line 
But the reason he was the HOT WR all of a sudden is cause he probably is one of the most technically sound. I always like Lloyd but maybe age got a hold of him??? I thought he would be great in NE. Good for MoMass let him make a 2nd contract.
Spirit putting us back for years...lol Come on terrible 3 2nd round picks but it didn't put us back years. my 3 picks that year were Loadholt - LeSean McKoy n I think?? Shaunnessy (something like that he went to Oakland) . We were all geniuses...
Mack I thought was a great pick...n do not regret it even though we can go back track n pick better.
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Any team in the NFL can have MoMass, aslong as it isn't the Cleveland Browns. Had it with MoMass. I can't find one thing to justify when someone says "they liked MoMass" or thought he did something.
He has been one baby step above Robo, which also was a pathetic excuse for a WR.
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After reading last few posts discussing 09 draft, I feel that this was the worst draft possibly ever for my beloved Browns. Now granted I know we have had some bad picks, but these 3 2nd round picks gave our franchise absolutely nada. At least with some of bad picks ( u could argue: Couch, Brown, Warren, Green Etc) gave us something on field, Mo, Robo and Viek pretty much just stole our money and future as organization. Plenty of UDFA could have equaled these 3 production for the Browns. Couch gave us some good moments,first win back was big and had plenty other shining moments and underw different circumstances(an o-line) good have been a quality NFL QB. Brown had some monster moments as well, I don't remember as many specifics, yet one game think had 2-3 sacks FF, but anyway if healthy he definitely showed why #1 pick. Warren, Green and others, well you get point, had some positives whereas 09 2nd round class had zilch. Add to the fact that 2nd round picks should or expected to be at least quality starter, this was a dooming moment for this franchise, as shown by some of my fellow board members examples of players could have had. These would be 3 players coming into prime of their careers, and imagine with 3 quality guys how this team could and should look right now, promise wouldn't be talking about selecting 6th in this years draft. Point being this was crippling, and I know F.O. made these picks so they get the blame, the players can't help when over or under drafted, but even a bad F.O. should have got us a minimum of 1 quality starter out of 3. Honestly all of us armchair G.M's could have done that and a lot of us possibly even better. For those skeptics I know easy to make this statement in hindsight, but honestly most of the us easily take some of these fore mentioned players even before they hit field. Once again sorry for rambling but as mentioned after pondering these posts just really hit me again how bad these picks were. Would've, Could've, Should've gentlemen but 
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Any team in the NFL can have MoMass, aslong as it isn't the Cleveland Browns. Had it with MoMass. I can't find one thing to justify when someone says "they liked MoMass" or thought he did something.
He has been one baby step above Robo, which also was a pathetic excuse for a WR.
Some on here had him way overrated because he had a couple of solid games across from BE his rookie year.
Even healthy, it's hard to pinpoint anything he does really well.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Any team in the NFL can have MoMass, aslong as it isn't the Cleveland Browns. Had it with MoMass. I can't find one thing to justify when someone says "they liked MoMass" or thought he did something.
He has been one baby step above Robo, which also was a pathetic excuse for a WR.
You took the words right out of my mouth! Just barely better than Robo. I am amazed this guy got on another roster. He won't last...even on the pathetic Jags' roster. I really thought the guy should have retired after the hit he took from Harrison. Not much to miss with this guy at all.
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Since he came to Cleveland, he had to be the guy or line up beside the guy oppisite him. He lined up beside Robo? or who? Man my memory is fading, because it's recent.
Then he got to line up beside, Josh Cribbs, and Greg Little. Am I missing someone?
Now, he will get to line up beside Justin Blackmon, and also concussion bothered Cecil Shorts, and that #4 guy from the bengals from 2 years ago.
Any way, he is lining up across from Justin Blackmon, so if he is playing the Browns he has got, Sheldon Browns replacement.
And anybody, anybody, anybody, could work on the Jaguars, they have so little resembling ballplayers it's not even funny. They cut half their roster, or are .
I"m gonna miss MoMass, because the thing is, is, he would make those grabs, to get one first down, when nothing was working, that would be the first first down that would turn into something positive.
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I love Mack but I still remember thinking oh great now we can get Clay, Bryd AND Loadholt! Then We got Momass, Robo and Mr. Hawaii.
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Harrison knocked the fight outta MoMass.
Plus - it seems like he's always injured. Good-bye and good luck. You know?
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At least with some of bad picks ( u could argue: Couch, Brown, Warren, Green Etc) gave us something on field, Mo, Robo and Viek pretty much just stole our money and future as organization. Plenty of UDFA could have equaled these 3 production for the Browns.
Couch gave us some good moments,first win back was big and had plenty other shining moments and underw different circumstances(an o-line) good have been a quality NFL QB.
Brown had some monster moments as well, I don't remember as many specifics, yet one game think had 2-3 sacks FF, but anyway if healthy he definitely showed why #1 pick.
Couch was a horrible pick, but not because he sucked, but rather he was put into a horrible position. He just didn't get the support, much like all the other QBs we've had so far since the return, but then again there was horrendous QBs in their as well.
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1: Matthews
2a: McCoy
2b: Loadholt
2c: Kruger
c'est la vie.
Mine were:
1 a) OT Oher, b) Barwin c) WR Nicks (totally missed on Matthews, Barwin was my man)
2a a) to z) OLB Barwin...I was literally screaming at my TV, then I got Robo, who was on my "please not" list
2b a') OT Loadholt (with Mack in the 1st) or b) RB McCoy
2c I was numb after the Massa pick, I really didn't care anymore and was laughing hard when we picked Veikune, who didn't even follow the 2nd round because even he never thought to go this high....Robo was bad enough, but picking a carbon copy of him in the same round was the dumbest thing in dumbness I have ever witnessed. I couldnt believe it and said right after that draft that combined with the FA period it was the worst managed offseason I have witnessed EVER by a pro team in all sports and was ridiculed and hated around here....I knew right then that we had to get rid of Mangini asap
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Sorry, but Couch did suck! He only could make a few throws. Had terrible foot work. Didn't put the work in. Was disliked by his teammates. Had awful pocket presence. Couldn't read coverages to save his lift. He never caught on w/another team. I remember the masses saying how great he would be once he got away from Cleveland. LOL....we saw what happened and people still defend the bum. He was good w/the media though and most fans just loved him. So, I guess he was good for something. 
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Obviously they didn't learn with Robiski.
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Man we you break it down like that, . I mean WOW what could have been.
Doesn't mean a thing unless you use them right.. and I don't know if we would have.
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