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I agree. I would do the trade as well. I just wouldn't draft the 30 year old QB this time around.
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I agree, but I try to separate the trade back from the actual picks made.
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Just a general comment to some of the stuff. On the meeting without the scouts, umm no idea why this is a big deal. If they arent having a ton of meetings with different scouts, and without them and with the coaches and without them then I would have an issue. Take all the info then build your draft board and that is what we are in the process of doing.
Now for the Falcons trying to get up. There are a few teams in the back that are looking to make that big jump and the Falcons getting Julio is a big reason as to why. 49ers, FAlcons, Texans are the big 3 that are likely to make a move.
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Can you imagine what the local press would print if Lombo pulled the trigger on Gino at number six ( 6 ) ??
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Can you imagine what the local press would print if Lombo pulled the trigger on Gino at number six ( 6 ) ??
Maybe it's just me but I don't think they would go nuts. I mean most people do know how important the QB position is to winning in the NFL and Weeden has not yet proven he can be the guy. Many expect that Banner and Lombardi do not like Weeden and Lombardi said that very thing publicly on the NFL Network. Look, I am not advocating Geno at #6, just don't think people would be going THAT crazy.
I think they'd go crazy taking Warmack #6 more than Smith.
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Can you imagine what the local press would print if Lombo pulled the trigger on Gino at number six ( 6 ) ??
Maybe it's just me but I don't think they would go nuts. I mean most people do know how important the QB position is to winning in the NFL and Weeden has not yet proven he can be the guy. Many expect that Banner and Lombardi do not like Weeden and Lombardi said that very thing publicly on the NFL Network. Look, I am not advocating Geno at #6, just don't think people would be going THAT crazy.
I think they'd go crazy taking Warmack #6 more than Smith.
Now, with that said, Banner has gone on record saying that QB is not the focus at 6 and although he may not tell the media certain things, he would not lie to them. But my guess is if Geno is picked at 6, it wouldn't be the fact that HE was selected, more so, the journalists would tee of on what Banner previously said in a press conference to them.
In the end, my gut tells me it's not Geno at 6. Weeden is taking reps with the first team, Campbell is signed. I just see Geno being thrown in at this juncture.
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jc Teams wonder about Ansah's Age As if BYU defensive end Ziggy Ansah didn’t already face enough questions regarding whether his production will match his potential at the next level, he now faces questions regarding whether his birthday matches his birth certificate. Per ESPN’s Chris Mortensen (via Rotoworld.com), some teams believe Ansah looked “old in the face” at his Pro Day workout. (Greg Oden doesn’t know what that means.) Mort reports that Ansah has sent his passport to a “select group of teams,” which shows that he’s 24. Ansah is regarded as a raw prospect with a high upside. He unsuccessfully tried multiple other sports before finding football (Danny Zuko doesn’t know what that means), and Ansah now is regarded as one of the top prospects in the draft. Unless someone thinks his passport has been forged (which is highly unlikely), it’s safe to say he won’t be going from old in the face to long in the face next Thursday night. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/17/report-teams-wonder-about-ansahs-age/At least Weeden told the truth...  Speaking of "old in the face" has anyone seen Sam Montgomery and Jarvis Jones? Those guys look much older than 22 or 23. http://www.youtube.com/v/RjF93E4LjlA
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Jones is 25, no? That's what happens when you start at 19, transfer, medical redshirt etc.
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Yes, I know he's that age. He just looks like he's much, much older. That's all. Nothing more.
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In three years, we'll learn that Ansah is actually Fausto Carmona.
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At least he isn't Generalissimo Francisco Franco .
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Yeah, he does look like an older guy. He is a bit older, just maybe not as much older as he looks.
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As long as it has to come up, can somebody tell me why anybody would consider Geno Smith a better qb for the Browns future than EJ Manuel of Florida State?
I mean if they absolutly had to take a qb at 6, I'd feel alot better about Manuel, but that's just me. Somebody, convince me, that Geno smith is not a complete question mark !
Well, Is Geno a franchise Qb? ( I really hope they don't take him)
What are his positives? What is a Geno Smith positive?
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Geno is more NFL ready right now. He looks polished where as Manuel is a bit raw in a lot of areas. Geno can come in and probably do decent as a rookie. If you draft Manuel, I think you have to be prepared to do something that is never done anymore and that is take the time to develop him and refine his skills.
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This is kind of a weird year, in terms of drafting QB's.
I think in a normal draft, where more teams at the top need a QB, Smith would be a hotter commodity.
There aren't a ton of questions with him. He's accurate, has a strong arm, decent mobility (certainly in the pocket) and he's considered a high character player. The prevailing knock seems to be that he played almost exclusively in the shotgun. He's slightly undersized at 6'2.5 but that isn't terribly short given his mobility and field vision.
I think what ultimately scares teams is he's not elite in several areas, just really good. I don't think he's going to be a star but I do think he's a player who can be right on the edge of that upper echelon of QB's. He'll take care of the ball, extend a handful of plays with his legs and be a really solid signal caller.
The question is, is that (as described) worth a top 10 pick. I would lean towards yes, especially if Cleveland could drop down 3-4 slots and still draft him. I might hesitate a bit to take him at 6 but if he's there at 9 or 10, I think you pull the trigger. This draft is incredibly deep at OLB, so you could go defense in round 2.
In terms of him vs. Emanuel.....Smith started 3 full seasons, never threw more than 7 INT's, was a more accurate passer, even with 700+ more attempts and threw twice as many TD's. Manuel's TD-INT ratio in college was 1.68 to 1. Smith's TD-INT ratio in college was 4.67 to 1.
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Great to see you! Always like seeing/hearing your thoughts.
On this one I have to disagree.
I see Smith as a see it open guy. I see him as having bad pocket awareness. I see him having a dynamic guy in Austin that could take a short pass or even a shovel pass and go the distance and that's a big crutch. His 32 fumbles in college scares me.
I know this shouldn't matter but he kind of looks like a dolt too. (I am a horrible person)
I would rather have Manuel here and that's with large sized warts and all. I see Manuel as a Kaepernick light as it pertains to throwing the football. Nearly the same guy after that. But he's a big interesting piece of clay that's for sure.
I really hope we don't take a QB in the first round or second if we get one. By the time the third rolls around I'll accept it. If it's a late round flier then I assume they think he can be better that our current third stringer.
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j/c some general thoughts.
1. Some questioning professionalism regarding the FO n Scouting procedures...I'm just curious where they got the Professional protocol from 
2. It is common Knowledge that the Scouting department n all personnel employees their contracts run from May as their fiscal year. Gosh we have been through this so many times n dawgs here are surprised there will be turnover soon.
3. As for the secrecy n not including the numerous scouts in these final days leading up to the draft. Lets see...there are 16 probably that were not invited...several will be changing Team Logos soon either we are going to release them or they are going to vie for positions with other organizations as their working season is over.
Over the years Lombardi working with the Media on what teams will do...possibly he has gotten LEAKS from a scout or two? Ya think...Scouts are a dime a dozen they would like to move on? Find a new Home? Or start a Web site when they cannot get a job! So you got at least 12 low level guys to come in this SECRET hush hush draft strategy meeting. To tempt them for possible hire to new organizations to  n leak some info??? Not saying all 12 are not loyal. Saying out of 12 there will definitely be a none loyal party that will easily give up some info especially knowing their job is probably over soon. Unprofessional. ummmm how bout  SMART!
4. Age documentation..."his face looks older" well there's proof for you. You know what - I think Colt McCoy lied about his age...He looks like he is 19 - obviously he is much much younger than what he states he is. When I started reading that I'm like OH Crap somebody found out some info negative on the age...then I read the NEW PROOF...Mortensen questions his Old face look.....btw How the heck can you tell 4 years difference by Facial Looks  dumbest thing I've heard from a Bozo...shame on them before the draft. His face looks older...So now we have FACE experts who can tell from 24 or 28??? Or is he suggesting he is 38??? 
Amazing...n shameful for a supposed expert to state something like that...do some investigative journalism n earn your money. Not play into some Buddy GM's spam to have a prospect drop to them...Steelers? Just who is buying him Dinners???
Disgusting Journalism ....smh
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Over the years Lombardi working with the Media on what teams will do...possibly he has gotten LEAKS from a scout or two? Ya think...Scouts are a dime a dozen they would like to move on? Find a new Home? Or start a Web site when they cannot get a job! So you got at least 12 low level guys to come in this SECRET hush hush draft strategy meeting. To tempt them for possible hire to new organizations to n leak some info??? Not saying all 12 are not loyal. Saying out of 12 there will definitely be a none loyal party that will easily give up some info especially knowing their job is probably over soon. Unprofessional. ummmm how bout SMART!
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3. As for the secrecy n not including the numerous scouts in these final days leading up to the draft. Lets see...there are 16 probably that were not invited...several will be changing Team Logos soon either we are going to release them or they are going to vie for positions with other organizations as their working season is over.
Over the years Lombardi working with the Media on what teams will do...possibly he has gotten LEAKS from a scout or two? Ya think...Scouts are a dime a dozen they would like to move on? Find a new Home? Or start a Web site when they cannot get a job! So you got at least 12 low level guys to come in this SECRET hush hush draft strategy meeting. To tempt them for possible hire to new organizations to n leak some info??? Not saying all 12 are not loyal. Saying out of 12 there will definitely be a none loyal party that will easily give up some info especially knowing their job is probably over soon. Unprofessional. ummmm how bout SMART!
really good point.
Not really, he undermined it with his first point, the good ole fashion "are you working for an NFL team? No? Then shut up"-argument  Pretty much THE classic of any board and still the most stupid one out there
So EO, if my points and speculations are worth crap because I don't know the ins and outs of NFL work, guess what yours are too? 
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This merits its own response. Surprised? No, I wasn't and said so, but I thought we have all agreed that constant "turnover" and the nepotism decsions that come with it is bad, right? It's not about the "surprised" part, it's a bout the "bad" part, you know? And bad is still bad, surprised or not
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This merits its own response. Surprised? No, I wasn't and said so, but I thought we have all agreed that constant "turnover" and the nepotism decsions that come with it is bad, right? It's not about the "surprised" part, it's a bout the "bad" part, you know? And bad is still bad, surprised or not
Normally i would agree with you. You may not need all the scouts in the room, but I would say you need the director and maybe the top 2-3 regional guys for sure.
That is unless you know you aren't going to retain them. In that case, I don't want them anywhere near the draft room once all the reports are filed.
As I said several posts back, we have already had some leakes from "sources", and my guess is a scout or two are the sources.
Now next year once the new group is assembled and we do it the same way, I'll be there with you.
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Didn't know where to ask this question and didn't want to start a thread..
Isn't there supposed to be some kinda presser today with Banner and Lombardi? Anyone know the time of that?
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Isn't there supposed to be some kinda presser today with Banner and Lombardi? Anyone know the time of that?
Big announcement at 4pm?
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Isn't there supposed to be some kinda presser today with Banner and Lombardi? Anyone know the time of that?
Big announcement at 4pm?
the IRS is forcing him to give the team back to Randy
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Isn't there supposed to be some kinda presser today with Banner and Lombardi? Anyone know the time of that?
Big announcement at 4pm?
LOL Was that supposed to be in purple, or is there really supposed to be a big announcement at 4?
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It's at 2.30 and it will be on the main site..
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It may be running late. They can't start it until Lombardi finishes listening to Mayock's conference call.
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Many people on here (including me) have been saying something similar to that for awhile now. There is not much difference between between Milliner and the next three to four guys. Milliner is only rated so high because he is the best.
All the more reason to trade down.
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You really want to go there Humble pie...
1. I asked a question...just what is Professional Protocol? Come on mouth... back your bs up... you wish to make it personal go right ahead then n make yourself look silly. You yammering about Professionalism or the lack of - Just what is the professional protocol.
Nah but you were served in your place without insult just answer the question. I gave my retort on why I think it was not only Professional but Smart. A poster actually mentioned good point.
Ooooo your ego was bruised...what an Insecure think you know it all bs crapola. JUST AMAZING. So my points were not interesting...cause they make yours look - like BULL CRAP...
Well if you shovel it...don't point the finger at me.
Pretty much you told me why your stuff was useless...now tell me what my stuff was. I explained it so even you could understand.
Either tell us what Professional Protocol is this is your claim not mine n all I DID WAS ASK...YOUR INSECURITIES MADE CAUSE YOU KNOW YOUR BS METER WAS CALLED ON --- Boo Hoo...grow a set n discuss. My goodness the out right gaul of Board ownership you think ya got. How dare somebody ask for a logical explanation...n when you don't have one...you do the OLD FLIM FLAM of Point the finger at them and ACCUSE THEM OF FOUL PLAY.
Your Points n Explanations??? Where What n HOW...I just saw your OPINION without one explanation. I actually asked you for ONE...n you go huffy puffy.  Man its tough being pleasant n not getting banned...lol 
But My apologies...I forgot you run this board n I dared to ask a question of you Oh n admonishing Clevesteve for actually thinking for himself. Careful Cleve Steve...don't wish to get you in trouble with the Board Know it all. Man DJ...now I sort of remember why I left the board. You pretty much don't make it too pleasant...but then I see your game. You are insecure n can't hang with real football discussion...From day one you hounded me...yeah I said water under the bridge but you continue to hound n I see the only one on the board left to challenge you Barrage Toad with insults. So My Points are not good...And these are your words. When Clevesteve Quoted the points he thought were interesting...you state
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And my heinous first point?
"I'm just curious where they got the Professional protocol from"
And followed it with a SAYWHAT emoticon.
How dare anyone ask for some logical explanation of this opinion n I was not singling just you out but anyone...I feel like Stalag 17 the guy who hit the hardest was the guilty one
man I feel like I'm dealing with some Gang guy protecting his turf...don't look at me the wrong way...is that how it works. Ooooo I'm internet frightened...lol
So funny...but definitely annoying as well.
What a waste...but I'm sure it will be pointed out somehow being my fault...Otay.
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Not for nothing. I read on the bottom line crawler on that network, that KC is giving Miami permission to talk to (?) offensive tackle, and if they agree to terms that Miami would give KC one of their 2nd round picks. (confused I may have that wrong)
Anyway, IF Miami gives one of it's 2nd rounders to KC, it would definetly sour the pot in a trade down with Miami scenario.
Maybe open a trade down with KC scenario.
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Miami wants to trade for KC's T Branden Albert. KC had franchised him, and he has signed his tender. He wants either a long term deal, or traded. (or both) He did not attend their voluntary mini camp. Miami wants him, but won't pay the franchise price ..... but there have been rumors that KC would trade him.
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1. I asked a question...just what is Professional Protocol? Come on mouth... back your bs up... you wish to make it personal go right ahead then n make yourself look silly. You yammering about Professionalism or the lack of - Just what is the professional protocol.
If you actually read other people's posts instead of hammering in novels, you might have read what I consider to be the professional thing to do.
You DID actually make a good point, just as I did, but since both points are highly subjective, speculative and hypothetical (since we BOTH have no clue about the inner-workings) you undermined them BOTH with your "you don't work for the NFL, do you?"-hammer. In case you missed it: my point was that you dismissed my and your points with your 1. If you actually left out the first point, this could have been a good discussion, but don't act all offended when you're the first slinging mud
So take your own pill or (that'd be much better) make a better counter-argument the next time ...I'm sure it'll be somewhere in a yellow 19th century psychology novel of yours
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Still waiting on your definition of FO protocol regarding the Scouting department with regime change? As in a history of it? Gosh knows all you got to do is follow the Browns history to get some...but that is slinging Mud  I'll stop there as I'm sure the board don't want to read anymore of this. Its all out there no need to define it n point the finger at me.
As for KC...with the first pick n I would guess a good chance they will sign their guy before the draft...unless there is active Trade talk still going on??? But probably an obvious they are taking LT which one??? Don't matter to us. But the Franchise tag Albert wants Left Tackle money. KC is not going to pay it to him. Miami needs a LT pretty URGENT NEED...although personally I don't think Albert will ever be an Elite LT I guess he's better than anyone they would get in the 2nd round. There of course would be a player in the AUCTION #6 for the last LT gone.
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Banner at Banner/Lombardi press conference: Q: How many players do you have graded in the first round? B: "We probly got about eh... 18 people? 20 people I'd say? Which is about the norm... you never have the same number of players evaluated in each round as there are picks in the round. But, you know what I thought you were going to ask there is we're probably not of the conventional wisdom that this is a flat draft. We think there are some very good players at the top of this draft as well. They don't happen to be the most visible, you know, high profile positions. But we think there are some very good players at the top of the draft and, you know, we think that will serve us well."  "U mad?"  "Don't forget about me!"
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yeah saw the presser this morning.
thing that stood out in my mind during the presser - Lombardi sitting on a Yellow pages to be higher in that seat
Yeah I remember hearing that. There are several boards...18-20 is covering all possible scenario including trade backs. Obviously at 6 you only need a board of 6.
then there is a round by round target board. 4-7 of each round. Of course if we pick in the 3rd n one of the 2nd round targets are still on the board...we take em.
Just hope these guys do well cause they will be scrutinize...Warmack might be the ideal Safe pick. Trade back - so much talk to 12 of course there is the KC trade looming. If we do trade back the likelihood of Warmack rises...Pretty much a lock to be a good player for 10 years. Or with the confidence they get their 3-5 year program without fear of firing they go for the NONE Sure thing picks??? I do like Eifert.
JMHO
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If by some stroke of a luck a tackle makes it to our spot at #6, the most likely trade partners IMO are Arizona (#7 + #103), San Diego (#11 + #76 + #110 or #11 + #46 - our 4th), and New Orleans (#15 + 2014 1st).
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2013 NFL Draft: Mike Mayock's top 100 prospects
By Mike Mayock NFL Network
Published: April 19, 2013 at 12:45 p.m.
Updated: April 19, 2013 at 05:23 p.m.
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A rundown of NFL.com draft analyst Mike Mayock's top 100 prospects heading into next week's 2013 NFL Draft.
1. Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
2. Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
3. Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
4. Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
5. Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
6. Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
7. Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
8. Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina
9. Ziggy Ansah, DE, BYU
10. Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU
11. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
12. Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
13. Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
14. D.J. Hayden, CB, Houston
15. D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
16. Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
17. Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
18. Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
19. Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
20. Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
21. Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
22. Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina
23. Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame
24. Justin Pugh, OT, Syracuse
25. Matt Elam, FS, Florida
26. Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State
27. Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
28. Eric Reid,FS, LSU
29. Kyle Long,OG, Oregon
30. Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
31. Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
32. Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
33. Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
34. Kevin Minter,ILB, LSU
35. Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
36. Arthur Brown, ILB, Kansas State
37. Keenan Allen, WR, California
38. Jonathan Cyprien, FS, Florida International
39. Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
40. Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
41. EJ Manuel, QB, Florida State
42. DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
43. Matt Barkley, QB, USC
44. Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia
45. Robert Woods, WR, USC
46. Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
47. Larry Warford,, OG, Kentucky
48. Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
49. Jamie Collins, OLB, Southern Mississippi
50. Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse
51. Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State
52. Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
53. Terrance Williams,, WR, Baylor
54. Cornelius Washington, OLB, Georgia
55. Brian Schwenke, C, California
56. Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State
57. D.J. Swearinger, SS, South Carolina
58. Jonathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
59. Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State
60. Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall
61. Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas-Pine Bluff
62. Bennie Logan, DT, LSU
63. Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina
64. Sio Moore, OLB, Connecticut
65. Jon Bostic, OLB, Florida
66. Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, Connecticut
67. B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary
68. J.J. Wilcox, FS, Georgia Southern
69. Khaseem Greene, OLB, Rutgers
70. Brian Winters, OG, Kent
71. John Jenkins, DT, Georgia
72. Dwayne Gratz, CB, Connecticut
73. Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia
74. Robert Alford, CB, Southeastern Louisiana
75. Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson
76. Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State
77. William Gholston, DE, Michigan State
78. Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
79. Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
80. Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati
81. Mike Glennon, QB, North Carolina State
82. David Bakhtiari, OT, Colorado
83. Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern State
84. David Quessenberry, OT, San Jose State
85. Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
86. Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee
87. Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M
88. Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State
89. John Simon, DT, Ohio State
90. Dallas Thomas, OT, Tennessee
91. Barrett Jones, OG, Alabama
92. Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin
93. Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas
94. Le'Veon Bell, RB, Michigan State
95. Shamarko Thomas, SS, Syracuse
96. Vance McDonald, TE, Rice
97. Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
98. Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU
99. David Amerson, CB, North Carolina State
100. Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA
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