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Tyrann Mathieu is attracting plenty of interest in the lead-up to this month's NFL Draft. The former LSU cornerback is embarking on a 10-stop tour with teams that hope to gain a clear picture of Mathieu's NFL potential and troubled past. "This is his job interview," Mathieu's agent, Patrick Lawlor, told Jarrett Bell of USA Today. "It's just a matter of presenting himself as a professional." Mathieu has chosen an honest approach to his well-documented substance-abuse issues, giving a point-blank answer to one anonymous NFL assistant when asked how many drug tests he failed. "I quit counting at 10. I really don't know," Mathieu said, according to the coach, who argued LSU is partly to blame: "If he flunked 10 tests before they suspended him, it shows that he got no kind of help." A fair point, but Mathieu -- past aside -- must now prove to potential future employers he's worth the risk, especially when he'll be asked to trade in a coddled campus existence for the pressures of the NFL. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000...plus-drug-tests
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10??? woww.... thats crazy..
he either didn't give a darn or really does need help...
I'd only take a chance if he fell to the 5th.. not worth the risk IMO.
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probably gonna be the next Odell Thurman... heck of a lot of talent but just doesn't have the mental capacity to say no and take the right path. Will get drafted "high" and be out of the league in 3-4 years.
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To me it says more about the school than the player. I would still spend a 3rd on him.
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Why? He's short and doesn't have NFL speed. He's also an addict. 
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The kid is a special talent. Honestly, I worry more about Haden and drugs than the honey badger.
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Holy freaking hell.
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That badgers smoking more than honey!
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That badgers smoking more than honey!
I think more players today get busted for drugs of various sorts than any other time in history. I think some of them will grow up and do the right thing and others will not... the question is will the badger be a gordon or will he be a pacman?
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I could see him getting drafted somewhat high (no pun intended) by a team that thinks they can keep him in line. A team like New England.
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Possible; Patrick Chung can't cover to save his life; he makes Usama Young look competent in pass coverage.
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10??? woww.... thats crazy..
he either didn't give a darn or really does need help...
I'd only take a chance if he fell to the 5th.. not worth the risk IMO.
Or, stupidly, he's exaggerating. Almost like bragging to his "boys" kinda thing.
If that's it, then not only is he a druggy, but he's an idiot.
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Possible; Patrick Chung can't cover to save his life; he makes Usama Young look competent in pass coverage.
Chung is on the Eagles now
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/patrick-chung/
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Lets face it, you dont fail 10 drug tests in college without the college making a ton of excuses for u and really allowing the environment to exist. I think a change in environment will do him good. Being in the NFL drug program, and talking to a shrink will help him a lot. He finally got to see that there was a consequence when they kicked him out. Lets face it, he will be monitored like no other.
Haden knew how vital he was to the Browns chances and he put a night of partying ahead of the team. The guys that do that in the NFL tend to become repeat offenders. He is a grown man now supporting his family and not a college kid and taking that kind of a chance.
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Should clarify the statement - PFT reporting that when asked by a team that Mathieu said that he stopped counting after 10 failed tests - and that he failed for more than just marijuana. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...-10-drug-tests/
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Lets face it, you dont fail 10 drug tests in college without the college making a ton of excuses for u and really allowing the environment to exist. I think a change in environment will do him good. Being in the NFL drug program, and talking to a shrink will help him a lot. He finally got to see that there was a consequence when they kicked him out. Lets face it, he will be monitored like no other.
Haden knew how vital he was to the Browns chances and he put a night of partying ahead of the team. The guys that do that in the NFL tend to become repeat offenders. He is a grown man now supporting his family and not a college kid and taking that kind of a chance.
This is absurd. Mathieu knew that he would potentially cost himself millions of dollars. He admitted he's more than a 1 time offender while Joe had one known recorded incident. According to PFT it wasn't just weed. So you think a junkie is less risk than a guy who got caught using Adderall?!
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The last i had heard is that it was just pot so if he is on pain killers or coke it changes things. As for Haden and Adderol, The nfl can't publicly say what substance a player used to fail a drug test so every time one fails a test any more it is oo I used Adderol. Its like Winslow saying he got staph when he had the clap.
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Odell Thurman??? I was thinking of William Green!
10 + tests failed.
I could of sworn I heard this way back before the combine???
Also in a presser I remember him stating that he has been clean cause he just doesn't have the money to party. So lets give this kid a half million $$$ Not I have been clean n am mature n simply have no more desire to party like I did before...I didn't have the money to Party???? Otay!
LSU...on that same note of not having the money to party...hmmm evidently at LSU he had the money...HOW??? LSU obviously paid for him to be there 
Also LSU having to wait for 10 failed drug test...as the coach stated, they didn't help they just let him have ROPE...no DOPE....no ROPE to hang himself before throwing him off the team... did they ever bench him?
Typical Bengal pick - he will come cheap. If its just POT if he's made up his mind he can walk away from it without much difficulty.
Unrelated but remember reading this...about the PATS Chung is lousy at pass coverage I don't understand that I thought Chung was a Safety...Mathieu a CB???
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Should clarify the statement - PFT reporting that when asked by a team that Mathieu said that he stopped counting after 10 failed tests - and that he failed for more than just marijuana.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...-10-drug-tests/
OK ..... he failed more than 10 drug tests, and failed for more than just pot?
I wouldn't even touch him in the 7th round. I don't want this kid anywhere near my team if I'm a GM.
Drugs obviously matter way, way, way more to this kid than football ever could. I want no part of him.
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The thing is, your either on drugs or not on drugs.
If you fail 10 tests over the course of 4 years, or over the course of 10 months or over the course of 48 hours, it says 3 different things.
And then, you throw in, it's more than just marijuana; so, if they test individually for a bunch of different things, you could fail multiple tests all at once.
So the thing is, your either on drugs or your not.
This guy has a 4th round body, 1st round playmaking ability, and will probably go in the 2nd. If he gets on the field he will make alot of big plays and get beat his fair share of the time.
And I Want him on the Browns, if some of the (last guy on the roster) players are on the team, then shoooot, it's no question.
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If you fail 10 tests over the course of 4 years, or over the course of 10 months or over the course of 48 hours, it says 3 different things.
And then, you throw in, it's more than just marijuana; so, if they test individually for a bunch of different things, you could fail multiple tests all at once.
So the thing is, your either on drugs or your not.
After reading this, I'm leaning towards the former. 
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Well what do we expect of a team in the SEC? I cannot believe that we have a discussion board for someone like this.    We need to focus on what we want not what could destroy what we have going. 
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j/c Absolutely no way does he come here!
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Is there ANY profession that would hire a guy who fails 10 drug tests.....AND knows he'll be tested....AND admits to lots more "failures".....JMHO, I wouldn't hire him to dig a ditch, cuz it woldnt bees strait....be UP, but not straight....hope he's independently wealthy or has other talents.....FORGET HIM, please....we've had our Run, Willie, Run....please, get real.....GO Browns!!!!
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Another National Championship next year?
It has nothing to do with the SEC, or LSU.
It's because Honey is a pot head.
The kid has great talent, but I wouldn't take him unless he was there in the 5th....then I might take a shot.
People can and do sober/clean up, but if he hasn't, or is just sort of there and not totally there, throwing hundreds of thousands of dollars his way has a high chance of him being on the proverbial "First Rum Boat out of Jamaica" in short order.
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OK ..... he failed more than 10 drug tests, and failed for more than just pot?
I wouldn't even touch him in the 7th round. I don't want this kid anywhere near my team if I'm a GM.
Drugs obviously matter way, way, way more to this kid than football ever could. I want no part of him.
Yup
It's one thing if it's just weed, but to fail OTHER drugs and to do it 10+ times? That tells me you're an addict that has no control.
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My first question would be, what kind of drugs? Secondly, I would ask if he was told by the staff that drug use would be over looked? Because I can see not knowing a test was upcoming and getting caught by surprise. I can't see KNOWING you flunked the last one and getting nailed again.... that's flat out DGAF and stupidity.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...-10-drug-tests/
OK ..... he failed more than 10 drug tests, and failed for more than just pot?
I wouldn't even touch him in the 7th round. I don't want this kid anywhere near my team if I'm a GM.
Drugs obviously matter way, way, way more to this kid than football ever could. I want no part of him.
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It's one thing if it's just weed, but to fail OTHER drugs and to do it 10+ times? That tells me you're an addict that has no control.
And not only 10+ times .... but enough times more than 10 that he lost count. 
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That's not exactly true.
When I worked for the collegiate scouting service, it was extremely evident that most of the SEC teams cheated like crazy. Oklahoma, Texas, Ok. St were other big cheaters. LSU has cheated for years. They weren't quite as bad as Auburn was, but they were awful!
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Seems OSU got hit for cheating. At any rate, if the SEC teams cheat, at least they are good at it. 
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I really don't want to make this into an OSU vs SEC argument, Peen. However, look at what OSU was busted for--players selling their own personal items in exchange for tatoos and their coach not reporting it. Compare that to what I know about the SEC and some of those Big 12 schools.
No comparison! You oughta watch the ESPN 30 on 30 series about SMU one time. I think that it what it was called. It's similar in many ways, but the local media hasn't turned on the SEC schools like Dallas did on SMU. They are scandalous at best!
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I am really not interested in that either.
I don't know what you know, but I will say it wouldn't bother me at all if the SEC and any other teams who wanted to join decided to tell the NCAA to buzz off and just do their own thing. They don't have to be members of the NCAA and follow their 1920's rules.
I just know that watching the SEC on CBS is the best game of the week no matter who is playing. It's about at the point the SEC doesn't even need the NCAA in football. If they decided to pull out, the NCAA would die in football. Sooner or later OSU and the other quality teams left would join forces and soon the NCAA Bowl games would turn in to NIT type games.
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Umm pretty sure the SEC would die off once they get the hell taxed out of them. The NCAA would lose money but they would survive.
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10??? woww.... thats crazy..
he either didn't give a darn or really does need help...
I'd only take a chance if he fell to the 5th.. not worth the risk IMO.
Or, stupidly, he's exaggerating. Almost like bragging to his "boys" kinda thing.
If that's it, then not only is he a druggy, but he's an idiot.
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I am personally very pleased that Mathieu has not shied away from his problem and how open as he has been about it. I've known people with serious substance abuse issues, and if you are not open and honest, then you're not really handling the problem. In the spotlight that he is in, the fact that he is going out and taking the bull by the horns says a lot to me about his character and the man he's trying to become. We've all been young and dumb and I have to respect anyone who owns up to their mistakes instead of running away from them.
I am hopeful that he becomes a Brown in the 3rd round. I love his play making ability and think that Ray Horton can do all sorts of fun and crazy packages taking advantage of his blitzing and ball hawking.
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