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I thought I'd consolidate in one place what we'd like to do Thursday and Friday. Now remember, Thursday is Round 1. Fridays is Rounds 2 and 3. Rounds thru 4 - 7 eh... ptooey.

Ok I'll take a stab at it.. all these things apply under the circumstances

IF Milliner is at 6.. you take all the time til the deadline and hear any offers. If he is still there and no one offers for the pick, you absolutely take him

You make a serious effort to convince Miami to swap spots 6 for 12 plus their first 2 round pick which is # 42 over all then you take Warmack at 12 which should be about right for him.. sure pick.

Then at 42, you take a Rhodes, Trufant or a Banks.. whichever you think is best .. youve instantly upgraded your outfield.

IMO.. Ward is going to be a star in the new schemes..

What I fear will happern? Geno, Mingo or Ansah at 6

What i hope will happen? We trade down with the Chargers or Phins, pick up a 2nd and select Xavier Rhodes, in the 2nd take Paul Warford, 3rd Landry Jones, trade back into the 3rd and pickup the safety Rambo

What I believe will happen? I believe there is a strong chance we trade down and trade down again or one big trade down but I believe we wont pick until the end of the first. Maybe not until the 2nd. Load up on 2nd round prospects. I beleive this is where Banner and Lombardi sees the value.

Excellent. This is what I want to see.. no attacks.. no snides..just tell me what ya wanna do!

I want us to trade down. I see three likely scenarios:

1. The Cardinals want to ensure they get their guy (whatever tackle is available) and trade up one spot. In a perfect world we would get a 2nd round pick. Moving down one spot we select the best player available (Milliner, Warmack, Ansah, Austin, etc.)

2. The Chargers want to trade up for a tackle. We get a 2nd round pick. Moving to pick 11 we select the best player available (Mingo, Rhodes, Cooper, Hayden, etc.)

3. The Dolphins want to trade up for a tackle. We get a 2nd round pick. Moving to pick 12 we select the best player available (see names above).

At 6, the only guy I "want" is Ansah...Milliner I would be "ok" with at 6. Pretty much the rest would be "meh" AT BEST for me

If Ansah is gone, I want a trade down and instead of a 2nd I would take multiple picks in the 3rd to 5th range

I would also like a massive trade down similar to the Julio Jones-trade, with future picks involved, but I don't trust this "consensus" to do a good job with the picks, so I hope we stay away from that

In a small trade down scenario there's really no one I really want, but there are lots of solid picks like CB Rhodes, CB Trufant, CB Banks, G Cooper, WR Austin, TE Eifert....that said, I don't see the value for the last 3, but at least they're good players

Mingo is exactly the size/speed tease prospect a hack like Lombardi falls in love with. I kinda like his relentless style, but he was too skinny and light in his pants to finish off plays in College, so I don't see him sacking too many QBs in the NFL his rookie season. Mingo will probably take 1-2 years to bulk up and learn the OLB position. He IS a good conversion prospect though, but he's a bit of a project at this point. I'd be happier with him than J.Jones, who will bust big time imho, but both would not make me happy

In the 2nd range, there's a lot of prospects that I flat out don't like. Projects/flash players that are rated way too high, just below the good talents and above solid College producers because of "projectability"...guys like DE Hunt, TE V.McDonald, OLB J.Collins, DB Amerson, OLB C.Washington, TE Escobar, TE Reed, FS Reid

The prospects I want us to draft in the 2nd if we get a pick there: if they fall: DE/OLB Moore, CB Banks, CB Taylor, CB Hayden, S Cyprien. I also like WR Patton, WR T.Williams and G Warford, but again, I don't see the urgency to add players at those positions. Other players I'd be ok to "reach" for in the mid-2nd range: S Swearinger, CB Wreh-Wilson, CB Slay, TE Kelce, QB EJ Manuel

What I'd really like to see is to trade down with our 2nd rounder too or trade it for a 1st/2nd next year and extra picks in the mid rounds.

I also think you underestimate the impact of rounds 4-7....this draft is pretty homogeneous and loaded from the 2nd to 4th imho and some of that talent is going to drop into the 5th/6th range....I want us to load up on 3rd to 5th rounders, that's the value-land of this draft if you just stay patient enough and let the board come to you. That said, I have little faith "Lightning rod" Mike can hold his feet still/has the brains for that tactic...I really hope Banner is holding his dog on a short leash. I actually trust him more to stay calm and make good, reasonable decisions

If Milliner is there at #6, it better be a good offer to move back (2nd rounder or future 1st). If not, take him.

If Milliner isn't there at #6? I'd accept a lesser offer (3rd and 4th) to trade back a few spots and re-assess the board.

We should do a thread like this in REAL-TIME during the draft. When the Browns are on the clock, folks pick while the clock is ticking. Just Browns Picks, No trade scenarios. Pick your man in each round based on the real draft board. When its over, we'd have a record of who each poster would have picked if they were GM.

Just keep the 6th pick... unless teams are giving up a LOT!!

1) Milliner
3) Rambo

I'm happy as all get out!

I would definitely like to see a trade down to pick up another 2nd rounder or maybe even a low first and a couple of picks. Then take the BPA at any position of need. I wish we could just go BPA and not worry about needs, but we're the Browns.

1. Take Dee Milliner if he is on the board.

2. If Milliner is gone, trade down and try to get a second round pick in the process.

Milliner with the 6 pick if he's still there. But honestly, I'd rather trade down, get a second rounder (or more if possible,but I doubt it) Take one of the supposed second tier CB's.

Use the second rounder on a Safety or LB and the third on BPA and then of course BPA from that point on.

Probably should find a kicker in there and if possible another OG.

Nice to read you Saintdawg!

Didn't look at any of the posts so I hope I'm not redundant.

1. pretty sure we are not even thinking about QB at #6 - even though Mary Kay picked Geno in the NFL NETWORK Mock

2. Trade back will be determined on the who what n where...Johnson might be a great Auction as it appears if 2 LTs are gone Zona would be targeting him. Who knows we might get a 2nd from Zona at the last minute???

3. Don't know of course but I think the likelihood of us targeting either Millner or Ansah with our pick is high. Why I would love that last minute Zona trade...cake n eat it too scenario. I think CB is a lot more talented in depth than most give credit to. Why I would lean to that Special Edge Player for the D.

4. Offense - not many holes but rounds 3-5 can take care of some. QB is not a first round friendly position but you never know what teams will do. I think however there are a lot of mid round depth at the position where a steal could be had. I'm liking Wilson more n more. OG my hopes of Long in the 3rd for a Better Eric Steinbach at LG is fading fast as teams might have him move up as a possible LT. A kid I really like is Thorton from Illinois n this is where that 4th round just might not be a ptooey round...lol

3rd round can be QB, CB, FS, OG, TE if it stands as it is with no 2nd round pick. Not sure if there will be any Edge Rushers left by then why I look at it strongly for that 1st round pick.

We are going with an Attack Defense...nothing Spells Attack more than a Big Fast OLB to build it around n make all others better. Why I like Ziggy.

JMHThoughts

Skill positions and pass rusher is the way you go in the first round.
Dion Jordan.

Tyler Wilson in the third.

If the Browns stay put at #6, Dee Miliner is the ONLY pick I want us to achieve. The only trade I see Feasible is with Miami and with trade value charts they would have to surrender their 54th and their 5th round pick for our sixth. ( they wont surrender the 42 pick as the difference is 80 points). If we do that. I want us to trade down and take Miami 12 pick and take Xavier Rhodes.
We have on our roster for DL/DT already Adams,Davis,Kitchen,Rubin,Sanford,Taylor,Winn, Bryant, Hughes. so taking Ziggy honestly is not an option. If they take Geno Smith I will be drinking liquid drano on Sundays.

Oh n forgot to add - Miami seems to be very close on a deal with KC for that LT need.

Sorry for the Board miss communication effect Charlotte.

The deal with KC would not be for their overall #1...it is because of the certainty that KC is targeting LT with that #1 - the trade is Miami giving up one of their 2nd rounders for the rights to sign Trev Albert who has the Franchise Tag from KC but wants LT money.

Off topic here

I kind of find it funny that the main reason Miami didn't resign Jake Long was because he couldn't stay healthy yet they are willing to trade for Alberts who has missed even more time then Long has due to injuries.

Back on topic

I say trade down if you can and select somebody like Rhodes, Eifert, or one of the guards (Warmack, Cooper) then if we pick up a 2nd rnd pick select a CB like Hayden or Banks if we don't go Rhodes in the 1st or else S Reid, WR Williams, DE/OLB Washington.

I haven't paid enough attention to anything this year to even pretend to know who all these kids are, but my preference is that we get a Top CB first.
After that, we still need an NFL starting caliber FS, and a solid tweener OLB. Then we need a couple of prospects to groom for OG.

So, if we can pull off a trade down and still grab a stud CB, then I'm all for that, especially if whatever we get for the trade down helps us to hit one of those other positions.

WalterFootball.com has this 6 round mock posted for us.

After a trade with Miami we have picks 12 and 54 for pick 6.

1.) CB - X.Rhodes
2.) LB - D.Moore
3.) QB - T.Bray
4.) CB - L.Ryan
5.) WR - K.Stills
5.) OG - B.Winters
6.) TE - N.Kasa

Not thrilled about the Bray pick but i like the rest.

If we got Damontre Moore, Tyler Bray, and a top corner... wow I'd love it. Still don't have a free safety though, and I'm not sure Kasa is who I'd want at TE, but to get that kind of impact at three of the most important positions on the field, I'd be thrilled.

Hmm.. upon further review, perhaps I should have said our trade down w Miami would more likely net us the 54 instead of the 42.

Mea culpa.

Milliner is great but I really don't see him being available. That said I will take the ground less traveled and have some fun with it.

#6: TRADE: #6 & #175 for #11 & #45

#11: Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri(also means Tampa Bay does not get a top DT they need in a top heavy class of DT)

TRADE: Ahtyba Rubin for Tampa #73
TRADE: Jaball Sheard for ATL #30

#30: Eric Reid FS LSU(with a great DC I think this kid could be the next Troy of Pitt)

#45: Johnthan Banks CB Miss St

#68 Michael Buchanon DE/OLB Illinois

#73 Kyle Long OG Oregon

I think a total FO snafu...at the time they were 99% positive one of the 3 LT would be there for them to draft...now I believe they realize there is no such chance n they don't like the fact they would have to give up 2 impact picks to move up

Darn...not good for us!

JMHO - CB has some good depth this year.

Gipson...Nice I like the kid hope he gets the shot (for now that is) could be a rare find - hey about time we hit on some. Bademosi has a shot to make it also.

Two kids who hit hard

My perfect scenario would be to trade down from 6 to 12. Acquire Miami's #54 overall in the second round as well as one of their multiple 5th round picks. At twelve Ansah would still be on the board and the Browns select him.

Miami is talking with KC & Albert. Looks like a good possibility they will not need a LT soon.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/918599...-branden-albert

yeah, but we still have AZ, SD, and NO. we just need someone to scare AZ into giving us free picks as far as I'm concerned

If only they could temporarily employ Heckert.

If you trade down from 6 to 12, you should get, more than just 1, 2nd rounder, you should be able to get that 2nd rounder, a 4th or 5th rounder this year, and a 2nd rounder next year. If not, at least you tried.

I wan to see the Browns recover a 2nd round pick, and more, to replace the one they used in the supplemental draft for Gordon.
I want to see the Browns add 8 to 10 players in the 3 days, and I want to feel better after hearing about these picks than the lackluster few other pick ups this offseason,(Not all of em mind you, Not Kruger, Groves etc) but Better than, Barnridge, Kellen te, the Wr, and the Corner, and.. the kick return rb, and the linebacker.

Absolute best case scenario for me is that we sacrifice this draft for 2014.

I need to know whether Weeden is going to cut it.

If he does then huge problem solved. I pray this to be the case.

If he does not I'd ideally like to acquire two additional first rounders in 2014 and I don't mind dropping multiple times from 6 to anywhere from 28-45 depending on the haul.

That way we have all the ammo we'd need in one year to finally get a top flight guy at QB.

It's simply damn near impossible to succeed without a top QB and I'm frankly tired of it.

Best case scenario there is that we use three 2014 first rounders on top talent and become loaded moving forward.

The two future first-rounders which seem to me to be in play are New Orleans, who picks 15, needs a LT, has no 2nd rounder, and is a contender as long as Brees is healthy. The other one I see available is Atlanta. They may be targeting a trade up for a corner as people suspect, but I think it's either Jarvis Jones or Tank Carradine. 15 could be a spot they move up to.