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The question may be, did Jimmy use racketeering proceeds to aquire his interest in the Browns?
You are forgetting one word,, Knowingly.. They have to prove intent. And they may be able to do that.. Then he's in real trouble..
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Haslam is not a Cleveland guy, we were just the team for sale.
What exactly does that have to do with anything?
It has to do with the fact many people are defending Haslam like he is the hometown hero or something, that was the point.
Jimmy Haslam was not sitting around hoping someday he could own the Browns, as a matter of fact I am positive the Titans would have been his first choice.
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I don't believe a word Haslam has to say at this point. The FBI/IRS don't go public with something as high profile as this without being 110 percent sure of their facts. Is Haslam guilty...........guilty as hell. What happens to our team is all I am worried about. 
Two words,, Richard Jewell..
Richard Jewell.................? You are comparing a terrorist investigation to a White Collar FBI/IRS investigation, I really can't see how anyone could make that jump.
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Let's not ignore the fact that out of the 242 Corporate Fraud cases investigated in 2011, 241 resulted in convictions. To follow Daman's logic though, they got it wrong that one time.
Actually it was 241 convictions out of 242 indictments.. not 242 cases investigated.... big difference there. Has Jimmy been indicted yet? Because every year they have 600-700 pending cases so a lot of investigations don't end in indictments...
And of those convictions, how often is the top boss the one convicted? How often does it result in jail time vs just a large fine? I'm actually asking because I don't know, not trying to prove a point... and trying to point out that just because there is an investigation, doesn't exactly mean that there is a 99.59% chance that Haslam is going to jail... a lot of other things could happen.
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This investigation has been going on for what? 2 years or so? At this point they are just tying up this case in a nice pretty judicial bow and fluffing Jimmy Haslam's cot at some Federal Pen.
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Has Jimmy been indicted yet?
Based on evidence that's been released thus far, he'll probably be indicted.
They need to have enough to think that they can either a) pin his tail with what they've got or b) use what they've got as leverage to try and turn employees into federal witnesses.
And a public raid and release of affidavit makes me think that they do. They might not. But that's unlikely.
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And of those convictions, how often is the top boss the one convicted?
Good question.
They always want a high profile target, and that target will work (or has worked) to insulate themselves. It's rarer to find a smoking gun than to turn several witnesses (which becomes easier once the time hangs overhead).
In short ... I think Haslam's got a chance of escaping with heavy fines if his people keep their mouth shut. The FBI already has an inside informant, so the boat is already leaking. What matters now is who jumps off, who sinks with the ship.
With the evidence and testimony they presume to have ... Jimmy'd be one lucky guy to have that big of a crew of tight lips. He's about to find out who's loyal to him.
This is assuming they don't have some sort of head shot document to tie Jimmy to anything (which I don't think they do in the original affidavit. Though who knows with the raid...
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I don't believe a word Haslam has to say at this point. The FBI/IRS don't go public with something as high profile as this without being 110 percent sure of their facts. Is Haslam guilty...........guilty as hell. What happens to our team is all I am worried about.
Two words,, Richard Jewell..
Richard Jewell.................? You are comparing a terrorist investigation to a White Collar FBI/IRS investigation, I really can't see how anyone could make that jump.
OMG,, Will you people freaking wake the hell up.. I am NOT COMPARING anything of the sort,, What the hell is wrong with people around here.. Geesh
All I'm saying is that the FBI and other Law Enforcement agencies don't ALWAYS get it right.. I don't give a damn what the crime is
Now take your righteous indignation and put it where the freakin sun don't shine....
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All I'm saying is that the FBI and other Law Enforcement agencies don't ALWAYS get it right.. I don't give a damn what the crime is
Maybe you should tell them about Paul Kevin Curtis, the countries newest Richard Jewel.
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RICO outlaws every manner in which an enterprise can be used for long-term racketeering activity. Under the law, no person may invest racketeering proceeds to acquire any interest in an enterprise; no person may acquire or maintain an interest in an enterprise through a pattern of racketeering activity; and no person associated with or employed by an enterprise may conduct that enterprise's affairs through a pattern of racketeering activity.
The question may be, did Jimmy use racketeering proceeds to aquire his interest in the Browns?
I think Racketeering is most likely what Haslam will be charged/indicted with. Now I can't think of anyone in the 25 years that has gotten out of racketeering....granted my memory is foggy, but pretty much...you get charged with Racketeering your pretty much done.
Even if Haslam is found not guilty, or not even charged, I still have no doubt he done what he done. Isn't Jimmy';s brother the govenor of Tenn? Bill Haslam....well isn't that quaint...im sure they have been in cahoots together for years running these types of scams...i wonder if the Feds will investigate Bill Haslam as well?
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All I'm saying is that the FBI and other Law Enforcement agencies don't ALWAYS get it right.. I don't give a damn what the crime is
perhaps, or the perp is just smart at covering his tracks and destroying evidence?
Or perhaps some lawyers are better at squeezing guilty people out the door of reasonable doubt then others.....just because you don't get a conviction doesn't mean the perp never commited the crime...just saying...
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I think Racketeering is most likely what Haslam will be charged/indicted with. Now I can't think of anyone in the 25 years that has gotten out of racketeering....granted my memory is foggy, but pretty much...you get charged with Racketeering your pretty much done.
Even if Haslam is found not guilty, or not even charged, I still have no doubt he done what he done. Isn't Jimmy';s brother the govenor of Tenn? Bill Haslam....well isn't that quaint...im sure they have been in cahoots together for years running these types of scams...i wonder if the Feds will investigate Bill Haslam as well?
I don't think racketeering is the crime here. Pilot didn't intimidate their customers, they withheld rebates..correct?
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so Daman, what you are saying is that Jimmy is completely innocent because of a 17 year old domestic terrorist investigation? (couldn't resist  )
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OMG,, Will you people freaking wake the hell up.. I am NOT COMPARING anything of the sort,, What the hell is wrong with people around here.. Geesh
Then, what, exactly, are you doing?
I'm being as nice as I can here - if you're not bringing Richard Jewell into this thread as a means of comparison, then why are you bringing him into this thread?
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Actually, if the FBI simply viewed Richard Jewell as a possible initial suspect, but then quickly cleared him, they got absolutely nothing wrong at all, at any point. They simply did due diligence. How the media treated him, however, is completely a different story. So, again, Richard Jewell is meaningless in any context here. 
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Actually, if the FBI simply viewed Richard Jewell as a possible initial suspect, but then quickly cleared him, they got absolutely nothing wrong at all, at any point. They simply did due diligence.
How the media treated him, however, is completely a different story.
So, again, Richard Jewell is meaningless in any context here.
Two words: Richard Jewell. 
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One of two things is true. Either Jimmy knew and approved of these practices or he had no clue what was going on right under his nose. Either way it's not good. He's either inept or a conman/thief. He better pray all the taxes were paid on the full amounts taken in. If they failed to report their ill gotten gains.... the IRS don't play. They locked up Martha Stewart. The Justice department and the IRS will go over every single transaction. If one line is out of place.....
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hmmmm I wonder if the Value of the Browns Helmet Jimmy signed for me will go up or down if he goes to the big house 
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All I'm saying is that the FBI and other Law Enforcement agencies don't ALWAYS get it right.. I don't give a damn what the crime is
Maybe you should tell them about Paul Kevin Curtis, the countries newest Richard Jewel.
Car't do that.. I just saw where he is off the hook "for the moment" so they haven't totally given up on him yet.
But even that isn't the point Tulsa. People are assuming that I'm trying to compare Haslams issues and problems with terrorists attacks when in fact all I'm saying is that the FBI and other law enforcement agencies aren't perfect. They do indeed make mistakes.
I'm just saying, let it play out. Instead, some have a mob mentality and if anyone stands up for Haslam, they get attacked as I feel I've been.
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OMG,, Will you people freaking wake the hell up.. I am NOT COMPARING anything of the sort,, What the hell is wrong with people around here.. Geesh
Then, what, exactly, are you doing?
I'm being as nice as I can here - if you're not bringing Richard Jewell into this thread as a means of comparison, then why are you bringing him into this thread?
You really are that clueless aren't you..
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so Daman, what you are saying is that Jimmy is completely innocent because of a 17 year old domestic terrorist investigation?
(couldn't resist )
Go to your room, No soup for you 
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One of two things is true. Either Jimmy knew and approved of these practices or he had no clue what was going on right under his nose. Either way it's not good. He's either inept or a conman/thief. He better pray all the taxes were paid on the full amounts taken in. If they failed to report their ill gotten gains.... the IRS don't play. They locked up Martha Stewart. The Justice department and the IRS will go over every single transaction. If one line is out of place.....
Did you ever run a big company? Just wondering because you seem to know something that is new to me. and that is that no CEO has ever been clueless about something that was happening within the corporation..
There is a third choice.. look for it. it's there.
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http://www.wkyc.com/sports/article/296354/377/Analysis-Jimmy-Haslam-wont-face-charges
Interesting read. The penalties seem to be a lot steeper than I would have suspected.
That attorney doesn't think Halsam was involved. OK. But he doesn't support that with a`ything, other than his opinion. And his credibility must be questioned...when he says: "looks like he's going to be able to put together, at some point, a championship team" Sorry, couldn't resist! 
I think its safe to say Flying J is guilty and Haslam profited from it. Did he know? And if so, did he keep himself clean? We'll have to wait and see.
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Instead, some have a mob mentality and if anyone stands up for Haslam, they get attacked as I feel I've been.
Just like they did to Richard Jewell? 
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Did you ever run a big company? Just wondering because you seem to know something that is new to me. and that is that no CEO has ever been clueless about something that was happening within the corporation..
There is a third choice.. look for it. it's there.
Just chiming in here.....there are four basic functions of management (CEO included). 1) Planning 2) Organizing 3) Leading 4) Controlling. Controlling is monitoring the actions of the company in correlation to the plan. Making adjustments if necessary. No way in hell will a hands on CEO like Haslam drop the ball when it comes to controlling. A simple task like knowing if rebates are being paid as agreed and more importantly, probably designed, but for sure APPROVED by Haslam will he not monitor it. Sorry, but if he didn't monitor....SHAME ON HIM ! IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE!
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OMG,, Will you people freaking wake the hell up.. I am NOT COMPARING anything of the sort,, What the hell is wrong with people around here.. Geesh
Then, what, exactly, are you doing?
I'm being as nice as I can here - if you're not bringing Richard Jewell into this thread as a means of comparison, then why are you bringing him into this thread?
You really are that clueless aren't you..
You can continue to say that I'm clueless or that I can't read.
Or you can answer the question.
You continually brought up Richard Jewell's name into the discussion. When pointed out that it's a terrible comparison, you claimed that it's not a comparison.
If not for the sake of comparison, then why cite his name?
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OMG,, Will you people freaking wake the hell up.. I am NOT COMPARING anything of the sort,, What the hell is wrong with people around here.. Geesh
Then, what, exactly, are you doing?
I'm being as nice as I can here - if you're not bringing Richard Jewell into this thread as a means of comparison, then why are you bringing him into this thread?
You really are that clueless aren't you..
You can continue to say that I'm clueless or that I can't read.
Or you can answer the question.
You continually brought up Richard Jewell's name into the discussion. When pointed out that it's a terrible comparison, you claimed that it's not a comparison.
If not for the sake of comparison, then why cite his name?
I've answered that damn question about 5 times now., like I said, you either can't read or your clueless..
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Jimmy Haslam phone calls to trucking companies for Pilot Flying J could present legal problem after federal raid, experts say CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Browns owner Jimmy Haslam is calling trucking companies, offering to pay back owners of firms who say they lost money in the fuel rebate program of Haslam's company Pilot Flying J. But legal experts say Haslam's calls present a legal dilemma in his quest to clear his company's name as a federal investigation is under way. Haslam's calls can be seen as his attempt to correct a wrong committed by his company. Or, prosecutors might view it interfering with witnesses, according to interviews with several attorneys and law professors. "There is nothing wrong with trying to correct past mistakes, but when that is done in an ongoing criminal investigation that he knows about, it can appear that he is trying to influence witnesses," said Jonathan Witmer-Rich, an assistant professor at Cleveland State University's Cleveland-Marshall College of Law. "A potential target of an investigation needs to be careful what he or she says to other people involved in the case." Haslam is phoning companies that are named in a 120-page FBI affidavit that says Pilot Flying J, the nation's largest chain of truck stops and travel centers, engaged "for many years" in a fraud scheme to keep millions of dollars owed to customers as fuel rebates. The document says Haslam and the company's president, Mark Hazelwood, knew about the fraud committed by his top sales people, who the document says fleeced unsophisticated trucking companies. No one has been charged in the case. Records show FBI agents were to search for "non-electronic and electronic documents within the individual offices of Pilot CEO Jimmy Haslam, Pilot president Mark Hazelwood and Pilot CFO Mitch Steenrod." It is unclear what authorities found there. On Tuesday, Haslam called Curt Morehouse of W.N. Morehouse Truck Line of Omaha and settled their financial dispute. Morehouse, who blasted Haslam and a company salesman last week on Facebook, said he was pleased with Haslam's upfront style of doing business. The FBI document says Pilot Flying J shorted Morehouse nearly $150,000 over seven years. Haslam's company repaid it more than $80,000 previously and offered it generous rebates, but Morehouse rechecked his company's books and estimated that Pilot Flying J owed him another $70,000 or so. He declined to say the amount the two men agreed on. "We are getting what we're owed and I'm happy with the outcome and Mr. Haslam is a standup guy," Morehouse said. A manager from another trucking operator, who said he did not want his business publicly identified, said Pilot Flying J contacted him and he was scheduled to meet Tuesday with someone from the truck stop chain. Aubrey Harwell Jr., a Nashville attorney hired as outside counsel for Pilot Flying J in the wake of the FBI raid, said Haslam's overtures to aggrieved customers were "totally appropriate. Many are longtime friends of management and Pilot Oil. "There are allegations they have not been treated fairly. Mr. Haslam is determined to get to the bottom of those allegations, if in fact they are true, and pay those companies that are owed money." Harwell, who represented NFL team owner Eddie DeBartolo Jr. when DeBartolo got into a legal jam in the late 1990s in a political corruption case involving a casino, praised Pilot Flying J's push to reimburse trucking companies. "We've got letters going out. This is broad-based," Harwell said, adding, "I'm not saying he's calling everybody. "I understand that Mr. Haslam has made several phone calls to people that have been critical of the company," the attorney said, "to make it abundantly clear that he is going to make this right." Many defense lawyers reached Tuesday appeared stunned that Haslam would make the calls, considering his role in the case and the issues involved: a subject in the investigation speaking with victims who could testify against him or his company's employees. Geoffrey Mearns, a former federal prosecutor and the former dean of Cleveland State's law school, said he strongly discourages clients from speaking to people involved in the case. "I don't think it's a prudent move," said Mearns, the president of Northern Kentucky University. "Irrespective of his motives, it can be misinterpreted as inappropriate and perhaps unlawful. It would have been much better to have asked his counsel to make those contacts, if they deemed them necessary." J. Dean Carro, a defense attorney and the director of the Appellate Review Office at the University of Akron, agreed: "Since he is not a lawyer, he might not know the difference between making things right and an impropriety. Honest intentions can be misinterpreted." John Sammon, a former longtime federal prosecutor in Cleveland who handled complex white-collar crime cases, said he sees no problem with Haslam making calls to the trucking companies. "It is a fine line, but it's a pretty clear line," he said. Sammon stressed that tampering can only occur if a person is trying to influence another's testimony. In this case, he said, he believes Haslam is simply trying to correct a wrong. With Alison Grant http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/04/jimmy_haslam_dials_up_legal_di.html
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Did you ever run a big company? Just wondering because you seem to know something that is new to me. and that is that no CEO has ever been clueless about something that was happening within the corporation..
There is a third choice.. look for it. it's there.
Just chiming in here.....there are four basic functions of management (CEO included). 1) Planning 2) Organizing 3) Leading 4) Controlling. Controlling is monitoring the actions of the company in correlation to the plan. Making adjustments if necessary. No way in hell will a hands on CEO like Haslam drop the ball when it comes to controlling. A simple task like knowing if rebates are being paid as agreed and more importantly, probably designed, but for sure APPROVED by Haslam will he not monitor it. Sorry, but if he didn't monitor....SHAME ON HIM ! IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE!
Agreed,, but the bigger the corporation, the harder it is to control every aspect. It becomes even harder when trusted employees are the ones pulling the wool over your eyes.. Sometimes you can be blinded by trust.
if that's what happened, then all I can say is, anyone that's run a business has probably had it happen to them to one degree or another. That in and of itself doesn't make them bad managers.
As for monitoring rebates,, that's suspicious to me as well. I have some questions about it.. But again, it all comes down to 1) he either did it or knew about it or 2) he was caught off guard.. either could be true.
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Many many years ago I worked for a company that shipped their products via common carrier and mostly over-the-road.
My recollection of those times is that the trucking industry has a lot of unusual rules / regulations to follow...a lot...much more than I could have ever imagined.
It was also sometimes the most convoluted process from the time they picked up the product until they were paid for their service.
Even with all the rules and regulation and paperwork, it was almost impossible to tie the source documents back to an invoice...you know...to verify what was actually paid on what shipment.
The effort necessary to track from source document to the trucking company's invoice was so much work, that it rarely was done. Invoices routinely got paid with no way to verify whether the shipment actually occurred.
It was as if the entire process was set up to accomplish just that...an inability to verify anything. The people in charge of shipping all had an attitude of "Hey...what's the problem? It's always been like that and it works." Very strange to say the least...if not sometimes quite fishy.
Needless to say...it worked for THEM...but was a nightmare for the people charged with paying invoices and tracking budget v actual or quoted-price v actual charge.
I will say that that was about 20 years ago...so maybe things have changed. However, it was the SINGLE area of operation in the company where everyone knew it was an odd way to operate...yet it was given a pass to continue with business as usual...even while every other department in the company was "Re-engineering" their processes.
(Paradigm shift and re-engineering...the buzzwords of the 90's to describe the process to quit doing dumb things that don't accomplish anything.)
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There is a person on this board that probably has a better handle on the Trucking industry than any of us.. maybe he can address this and if it has anything to do with Haslam.. I personally don't know if it does..
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There is a person on this board that probably has a better handle on the Trucking industry than any of us.. maybe he can address this and if it has anything to do with Haslam.. I personally don't know if it does..
It would make sense that someone out there knows a great deal about what may have happened.
My long-winded story really boils down the this sentence:
"It was as if the entire process was set up to accomplish just that...an inability to verify anything."
This was in a $200 million company...Pilot is an absolute monster compared to that.
It is quite possible that no one really knew anything was being done wrong and the entire convoluted process made it impossible to see...it's equally possible that many people knew what was being done wrong and knew that proving such would be virtually impossible.
I'm guessing some rules were bent...a few things were being done that probably should not have been done and that may be illegal in the realm of the trucking industry...some accounting / calculations got messed up...but that no one was trying to steal from the Pilot customers.
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OMG,, Will you people freaking wake the hell up.. I am NOT COMPARING anything of the sort,, What the hell is wrong with people around here.. Geesh
Then, what, exactly, are you doing?
I'm being as nice as I can here - if you're not bringing Richard Jewell into this thread as a means of comparison, then why are you bringing him into this thread?
You really are that clueless aren't you..
You can continue to say that I'm clueless or that I can't read.
Or you can answer the question.
You continually brought up Richard Jewell's name into the discussion. When pointed out that it's a terrible comparison, you claimed that it's not a comparison.
If not for the sake of comparison, then why cite his name?
I've answered that damn question about 5 times now., like I said, you either can't read or your clueless..
Where?
You keep saying you're not comparing the two situations.
And then you do so.
Using Richard Jewell as example that the FBI gets it wrong sometimes is inviting comparison between the two situations. You are citing him as an example to weigh against the current situation, i.e. they got it wrong with Richard Jewell, they could be wrong here.
Either way ... sigh ... God hates Cleveland.
The FBI is definitely gunning for him, based on everything I've read. And they don't usually come to the table unarmed. Indictments and grand jury are going to show how much they have. And then comes the plea deal phase.
Jimmy better hope he's got loyal friends.
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Haslam was saying something about how these rebates are manually calculated.. Not sure if that may have been a way to hide things.. Honestly, I don't know. But it makes sense because it would be more difficult to track.
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OMG,, Will you people freaking wake the hell up.. I am NOT COMPARING anything of the sort,, What the hell is wrong with people around here.. Geesh
Then, what, exactly, are you doing?
I'm being as nice as I can here - if you're not bringing Richard Jewell into this thread as a means of comparison, then why are you bringing him into this thread?
You really are that clueless aren't you..
You can continue to say that I'm clueless or that I can't read.
Or you can answer the question.
You continually brought up Richard Jewell's name into the discussion. When pointed out that it's a terrible comparison, you claimed that it's not a comparison.
If not for the sake of comparison, then why cite his name?
I've answered that damn question about 5 times now., like I said, you either can't read or your clueless..
Where?
You keep saying you're not comparing the two situations.
And then you do so.
Using Richard Jewell as example that the FBI gets it wrong sometimes is inviting comparison between the two situations. You are citing him as an example to weigh against the current situation, i.e. they got it wrong with Richard Jewell, they could be wrong here.
Either way ... sigh ... God hates Cleveland.
The FBI is definitely gunning for him, based on everything I've read. And they don't usually come to the table unarmed. Indictments and grand jury are going to show how much they have. And then comes the plea deal phase.
Jimmy better hope he's got loyal friends.
Couple of points,, 1. I've answered that question,, don't be mad at me because you can't read the answers, they are there.. just scroll up and you will find them.
2. I doubt the FBI is gunning for Haslam,, they are most likely gunning for Pilot Flying J, and I'm guessing they don't care who their investigation leads them too, but I doubt they are gunning for him specifically.
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Haslam was saying something about how these rebates are manually calculated.. Not sure if that may have been a way to hide things.. Honestly, I don't know. But it makes sense because it would be more difficult to track.
I have to raise my eyebrow to that....we are and have been computerized for many years. How can any internal or external auditor allow this? Internally, I can understand. Like mentioned, it's an easy way to hide something. Can that be construed as 'intent'? Why in the world would you manually calculate rebates which would take an extraordinary amount of time compared to a computer program that can spit the calculations out instantaneously?
Haslam needs to keep his mouth shut! Man he's giving prosecutors ammo!!!
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I have to raise my eyebrow to that....we are and have been computerized for many years. How can any internal or external auditor allow this? Internally, I can understand. Like mentioned, it's an easy way to hide something. Can that be construed as 'intent'? Why in the world would you manually calculate rebates which would take an extraordinary amount of time compared to a computer program that can spit the calculations out instantaneously?
Yeah, and there should be checks-and-balances to ensure that the sales reps aren't calculating their own prices or bonuses. Unless IT, Accounting and multiple sales reps were all in on this, it shouldn't be easy to reward yourself in a company this large.
I'm sure if this was the other way, and sales reps were overpaying millions in extra rebates to truck stop owners, Flying J would have caught it right away. Don't think that would have flown under the radar for years.
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Haslam was saying something about how these rebates are manually calculated.. Not sure if that may have been a way to hide things.. Honestly, I don't know. But it makes sense because it would be more difficult to track.
I have to raise my eyebrow to that....we are and have been computerized for many years. How can any internal or external auditor allow this? Internally, I can understand. Like mentioned, it's an easy way to hide something. Can that be construed as 'intent'? Why in the world would you manually calculate rebates which would take an extraordinary amount of time compared to a computer program that can spit the calculations out instantaneously?
Haslam needs to keep his mouth shut! Man he's giving prosecutors ammo!!!
Well, as WSU said, the trucking industry is a fairly complicated environment so saying he's giving the people Ammo is based on something we probably don't truly understand. but then why should we, we aren't in that business..
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Not that I expected it to, but that article doesn't say what was discussed. I'd have loved to be a fly on the wall in that meeting.. (I promise, I'd come back to tell you guys all about it, then sit back and wait to get bashed) 
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