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Last year we drafted a 28 year old QB in the first round. I wasn't happy.
This year if we draft Geno Smith I will probably have a similar reaction.
What could we do this year that would make you lose your mind?
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Trade with SF. 
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Last year we drafted a 28 year old QB in the first round. I wasn't happy.
This year if we draft Geno Smith I will probably have a similar reaction.
What could we do this year that would make you lose your mind?
Things That would make Me Un-Happy:
Geno smith @ #6
Ryan Mallett for anything above a 4th
Ziggy Ansah @ #6
I will be back 
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You guys know I lost my mind years ago..............  If they take a frickin QB number 1 again, I may jump out of my 100th floor window.... 
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I'm not sure if it'a player per se, although I want no part of a QB or Anash at #6. What would drive me up the wall would be the panic moves. Like Weeden last year reaked of a panic move.
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If we draft a QB in Rounds 1 or 2, I will shake my head in disapproval. I will not flip out and drop F Bombs, which is what others assume I'll do for whatever reason... Don't jump to conclusions, people. If we trade down and then draft someone who isn't a need nor is a Top 3 BPA guy, then I'll scratch my head and stare at the TV screen.
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I'm not a big fan of us drafting Smith, but if the FO likes him that much, then they should take him.
I really don't like the thought of trading for Mallett. If he were that good, I don't think BB would be dangling him around.
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Trade with SF.
If it should happen I'd like to nab Zach Ertz at 31.
IF we trade with SF I want them overpaying for the pick.
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If we trade up anytime in this draft ...
If we give up more than a 5th for Bess ...
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Trading up in the first round. Taking Geno Smith Giving up anything better than one of our 5ths for Devon Bess. And this is almost worthy of finding a different team to cheer for http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...-before-philly/
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Trading up
Taking Geno Smith at #6
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Boy would this make heads explode. Mine included. web page Browns could be trying to get Geno Smith before Philly Posted by Mike Florio on April 25, 2013, 1:15 PM EDT Getty Images At a time when many believe the Browns would like to jump the draft-pick line in front of the Eagles to get a pass rusher, some think that the Browns could be targeting a pass thrower. There’s a building buzz that the Browns could be plotting to move from No. 6 to No. 3 to get quarterback Geno Smith before the Eagles take him at No. 4. The move, if it happens, would be a shock. Smith currently is regarded as a guy who could slide to the bottom of round one, if not out of the first round completely. The Eagles have shown strong interest in Smith. The entourage that traveled last month to Morgantown for a private workout with Smith included owner Jeffrey Lurie. While most think the Eagles wouldn’t be inclined to use a rare (for Philly) top-five pick on a quarterback at a time when Mike Vick and Nick Foles are under contract, the one thing that everyone is expecting with new coach Chip Kelly is something unexpected. For the Browns, a move to No. 3 would mark the second straight year in which the Browns climbed into the three spot. Last year, the Browns traded from No. 4 to No. 3 to get running back Trent Richardson. This year, a move to get Geno Smith would be far bolder. But it would at least go a long way toward getting folks in Cleveland to quit talking about Jimmy Haslam and Pilot Flying J.
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Was reading multiple items on CNNSI.
Items they mentioned :
trading down for Cleveland becoming less likely, due to 3 tackles going in top 5.
Don Banks said he's heard Cleveland will NOT be drafting a CB at # 6. likely, going with LB or QB.
Cleveland has called about Ryan Mallett AGAIN. Patriots want a 2nd rounder.
Dolphins was a 4th rounder for Bess.
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I'll blow a gasket if they trade for Mallett. And I know I don't want Smith, period. I'd like a trade down if possible, and go OG.
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Trading up to #1 and then missing the clock on our pick ... and then being forced to take an OT.
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Browns could be trying to get Geno Smith before Philly
Posted by Mike Florio on April 25, 2013, 1:15 PM EDT
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At a time when many believe the Browns would like to jump the draft-pick line in front of the Eagles to get a pass rusher, some think that the Browns could be targeting a pass thrower.
There’s a building buzz that the Browns could be plotting to move from No. 6 to No. 3 to get quarterback Geno Smith before the Eagles take him at No. 4.
The move, if it happens, would be a shock. Smith currently is regarded as a guy who could slide to the bottom of round one, if not out of the first round completely.
The Eagles have shown strong interest in Smith. The entourage that traveled last month to Morgantown for a private workout with Smith included owner Jeffrey Lurie. While most think the Eagles wouldn’t be inclined to use a rare (for Philly) top-five pick on a quarterback at a time when Mike Vick and Nick Foles are under contract, the one thing that everyone is expecting with new coach Chip Kelly is something unexpected.
For the Browns, a move to No. 3 would mark the second straight year in which the Browns climbed into the three spot. Last year, the Browns traded from No. 4 to No. 3 to get running back Trent Richardson. This year, a move to get Geno Smith would be far bolder.
But it would at least go a long way toward getting folks in Cleveland to quit talking about Jimmy Haslam and Pilot Flying J.
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Trading up
Taking Geno Smith at #6
Agree.....also if we draft a OT with the # 6 just because he's the BPA
But.....if we Draft Geno at # 6 and Trade Weeden for a 2nd round pick than trade Sheer for a late 1st round pick where we take a corner than...I'll be ok with that...But who's going to give a 2nd rounder for Weeden...?
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Drafting Geno, who I feel is a future bust, while passing on Jarvis Jones, arguably the best pass rusher in the draft, who then falls to Pittsburgh. Then watching Jones beat the snot out of our ongoing QB carousel for the next 8-10 years. It'll be the same sick feeling I got when Polamalu fell in the draft far enough that Pittsburgh could move up to 16 to grab him. But hey, we traded back and got Jeff Faine and Chaun Thompson. I just threw up.
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Could be a smokescreen to get a trade partner who is looking for a QB, too.
Bluff that you're wanting above Philly for a QB. A deal doesn't get done, Philly passes on Geno at #4.
Teams like the Jets, Bills, etc. who might be in love with Geno panic, and offer a lot for #6.
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Or just Banner outsmarting himself because he's all about showing how smart he is to Lurie  IF we trade UP for Geno Smith, I will probably freak out and be on a Mangini-like crusade to get these clowns out of towns asap. I will probably turn into an FBI-fan until the season 
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Could be a smokescreen to get a trade partner who is looking for a QB, too.
Bluff that you're wanting above Philly for a QB. A deal doesn't get done, Philly passes on Geno at #4.
Teams like the Jets, Bills, etc. who might be in love with Geno panic, and offer a lot for #6.
BIG SMOKE SCREEN ...  
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Could be a smokescreen to get a trade partner who is looking for a QB, too.
I know. But it fit the thread way too nicely to not include.
Besides, a nice dooms day thread will make whatever we do more palatable. Right?!? 
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As if anything you say or do has any effect on the team.
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Could be a smokescreen to get a trade partner who is looking for a QB, too.
Bluff that you're wanting above Philly for a QB. A deal doesn't get done, Philly passes on Geno at #4.
Teams like the Jets, Bills, etc. who might be in love with Geno panic, and offer a lot for #6.
But wouldn't that work only to Detroit's advantage?
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I've noticed lately you're trying hard to take the Captain Obvious title in a landslide with your useless one liners
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It could. However, if one of the 3 tackles are still there for Detroit at 5, I doubt they move out of that spot.
Then maybe teams put the decision on the Browns. "How bad do you want a QB?" ... And offer up a bunch for #6 to get the Browns out of the Geno sweepstakes.
Maybe not, but it's possible.
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I was thinking the same thing. Although anybody that we don't want picked in front of us is always a good thing.
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Maybe we're trying to get Philly to actually take Smith, so that a player we like will drop?  God ... who knows at this point?
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Unfortunately if it was a deliberately leaked bluff it wouldn't play out like that. The teams would try to trade up with Detroit to get above us. As soon as you offer to trade down with a team looking at the guy you're "supposedly" looking at, the "bluff" becomes a laughable joke.
I'm hoping it's just more talking heads ranting and the new regime/ new quarterback thing.
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If we trade up for an offensive player, or pick an offensive player at 6, I will be a tad bit out of sorts. I would be okay with Eifert, Cooper, Warmack if we trade down into the teens. I don't really want a QB at all in this draft, but definately not in the 1st. I'll probably be disappointed if we don't come out with either Milliner or Rhodes to play CB2 this year.
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My point is, if it gets out you want Geno, and your pick is up and another team wants Geno. THEY are going to call you.
Yeah, if you call other teams, they're going to not take your bluff to take Geno seriously, but if you stand pat and let your phone ring, you might get some offers.
It's not likely, but it is possible.
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Or it could be Philly we are trying to bluff. Maybe get them to pull the trigger on Smith in the first, thinking we are sure to take him at 6, thereby allowing one of the players we are targeting to get past Detroit at 5. Maybe we are trying to ensure that one of the left tackles gets to number six so that we can do a trade back scenario.
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As long we're not REALLY considering Geno, I don't care what the reason is
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Man... 6 hours to go...what to do...
Anyone have any ideas for something that could cause you to quickly lose 6 hours of time?
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Things that will have me throwing stuff: 1. Trading up in the first round. For anyone. 2. Going with any QB in the first round (with or without a trade down). Hmm... that doesn't seem like too much to ask.
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Trading up.
Taking a TE at 6.
Not coming away with a starting-caliber CB and starting-caliber FS.
Trading away a 1st or 2nd next season.
Drafting Mike Glennon, Zac Dysert, Matt Scott, Ryan Nassib, or Landry Jones before the 5th round.
Cordarrelle Patterson or Sheldon Richardson at all.
Trading away Rubin and/or Taylor.
Anything else I've resigned myself to not take offense to.
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Anyone have any ideas for something that could cause you to quickly lose 6 hours of time?
Start playing Oblivion or Fallout 3.
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Anyone have any ideas for something that could cause you to quickly lose 6 hours of time?
Coma? Alien abduction? Magic Mushrooms?
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It'll be the same sick feeling I got when Polamalu fell in the draft far enough that Pittsburgh could move up to 16 to grab him. But hey, we traded back and got Jeff Faine and Chaun Thompson.
We didn't trade down. That was the year after the playoffs.
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Trading up or anything that doesn't include taking a CB, OLB or FS in the first round.
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1. Trading up in the first round. For anyone.
2. Going with any QB in the first round (with or without a trade down).
Hmm... that doesn't seem like too much to ask.
Agree with both. I will also add taking a TE at #6, or anywhere in top half of the 1st.
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Anyone have any ideas for something that could cause you to quickly lose 6 hours of time?
I have it on good authority that multiple shot of Jager will do this.
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It'll be the same sick feeling I got when Polamalu fell in the draft far enough that Pittsburgh could move up to 16 to grab him. But hey, we traded back and got Jeff Faine and Chaun Thompson.
We didn't trade down. That was the year after the playoffs.
My bad. Either way we took a Center that washed out for us... Pittsburgh got a HOF player.
Not saying that Jones will be a HOF player but I have higher odds on him doing it than Geno. Though it wouldn't surprise me if Geno was working as a ticket taker at the Hall in 4 years. He'll need a career once he washes out.
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Anyone have any ideas for something that could cause you to quickly lose 6 hours of time?
I have LITERALLY mowed the Lawn, Done 2 loads of Laundry, Did 2 loads of Dishes, Caulked the Bathtub and cleaned the House. I started at 9 am its 2pm and I am pulling out my bald headed hair waiting 6 freaking HOURS TO GO.
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I have cleaned the house done the dishes done the laundry now I am going to take my daughter to her college about an hour round trip ... Then i am am going to settle in for a long time and "Enjoy" The draft ... 
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Start playing Oblivion or Fallout 3.
I was actually thinking of Road to the Show myself.
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With a draft as deep as it is with Defense, there are probably only two things that would make me lose my mind:
1) Trading up ... We don't need to. There are plenty of good players to be had at #6, and even in the top 12 if we were to trade down.
2) Drafting Geno Smith ... When there's a chance he could drop all the way to the second round.
Now if we trade up to draft Smith, I would probably flip my $#!%
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Start playing Oblivion or Fallout 3.
I was actually thinking of Road to the Show myself.
Funny you should say that, I just started last night. I'm a starting pitche and I looked like Brett Meyers out there. I also hate that I was drafted by Detroit.
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I have cleaned the house done the dishes done the laundry now I am going to take my daughter to her college about an hour round trip ... Then i am am going to settle in for a long time and "Enjoy" The draft ...
Go and see a movie. If you don't have a clock around, the time will feel like it passed quicker. After the movie, head to the nearest indoor driving range and kill a few buckets. Then, go home and take a shower, fix supper, and you should be right against draft time.
Meanwhile, I will sit here at work staring at the clock as each excruciating minute ticks by.
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I think Geno would annoy me. Aside from Geno there are almost no players any sensible GM could draft without being fired for us at #6.
But honestly... Unless the entire preseason has been a smoke screen that just isn't going to happen.
We are probably looking at Milliner, Jones (based on Banner praise), or trading down IMO. Anything else would surprise me. Most teams put together sensible drafts (except maybe the Raiders). It is pretty rare that a team drafts an obvious bust/reach to everyone (barring Butch Davis). I will be more interested to see what we do in rounds 3 and 4 (possibly 2). That is where you find decent starters at lower importance positions like FS / OG.
I am confident in our coaches beyond measure. I would hope if they go to Haslam with grave concerns about the drafts he would be willing to fire Lombardi/Banner. (Assuming Haslam is our owner for much longer).
Ps. Browns fun fact: TJ Ward is first cousins with Maurice Jones-Drew
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I feel that Banner wants to trade down at least once. SF may want to move way up. I would not be surprised if we trade with them, assuming they want a top 6 player.
We need picks.....badly.
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I have Joe Banner on the phone, what should I tell him???
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Don't take Smith. Trade down if you can. Get a FS in round 3.
^^ all you need to know about a successful browns draft.
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I have Joe Banner on the phone, what should I tell him???
Tell him drafting a punter in the first round is good value.
Should provide some great entertainment value watching this board explode 
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If we draft Geno Smith I am going to be in Jail tomorrow because I will personally drive to Berea and kick the living crap out of Banner and Lombardi.
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Funny you should say that, I just started last night. I'm a starting pitche and I looked like Brett Meyers out there. I also hate that I was drafted by Detroit.
I started out as a SP also and was drafted by Cleveland. Was 13-7 at Akron with a 3.76 ERA and moved up to AAA Columbus. Only have 3 pitches (sinker, slider, change-up) though. I could have moved to develop another pitch but working on those three pitches.
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Any QB at #6 would be awful
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If they draft a long snapper in any round.
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If they draft a long snapper in any round.
use our 3,4 picks to trade up
use 5th on FB
use 1st 6th on LS
use 2nd 6th on K
use 7th on P
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I will Lose my mind if Geno Smith is a Cleveland Brown. We know what losers look like. We know how Quinn, Frye, McCoy look like clones of each other. Geno looks like another clone. Just Say NO! Quote:
you have Banner on the phone what should you tell him
Tell him to sit down and shut up! and to Hang up the phone, call Mike Holmgren and conference with Tom Heckert, and do whatever they tell you to.
I will lose my mind over WHOEVER THEY PICK, unless it is Dion Jordan, E.J. Manuel, or D.J Fluker.
I fully expect to lose my mind. I don't look forward to drafts anymore with anticipation, unless tooth pulling is anticipated.
Just for later  !!!!!!!!!!
and espcially for even reading an article that they want to move up and get Geno Smith who is almost as bad as Kevin Kolb. Both have NO UPSIDE!
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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If we draft Geno Smith I am going to be in Jail tomorrow because I will personally drive to Berea and kick the living crap out of Banner and Lombardi.
Football fanatic!
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Trading up or anything that doesn't include taking a CB, OLB or FS in the first round.
Yes! This is right on.
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Trading up
Taking Geno Smith at #6
For better or worse i have a feeling we may very well end up with him, but i'm just a-guessin'.
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Watching a percentage of fans who do not know what the hell they are talking about (including me) going nuts on a message board because we picked ______.
Against logic,the most effective armor is willful ignorance.
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Watching a percentage of fans who do not know what the hell they are talking about (including me) going nuts on a message board because we picked ______.
#gmstrong
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Watching a percentage of fans who do not know what the hell they are talking about (including me) going nuts on a message board because we picked ______.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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Well Jones is still on the board so he could end up a Stiller. Then we'll see who got the better pass rusher.Hopefully it's us.
Hopefully he's gone before 17.
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Please let the Saints get Jarvis!
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Siiiiggggghhhhh...
Highly ranked player s ALWAYS fall to the Steelers...
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Ugh.
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Get me a beer.
"Every responsibility implies opportunity, and every opportunity implies responsibility." Otis Allen Glazebrook, 1880
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