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I'm honestly asking you: he had four sacks last year. Why do you think he's a beast?
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Well we have the best 4-3 defensive line in football now! Wait that's the wrong defense right? 
Cone On you guys you know darn well Mingo was drated to play OLB not DE!!! 
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Browns should have taken Milner....stupid,stupid,stupid ....Mingo is good ,but not like what Milner gives a team.
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What if Sheard can't play OLB??? As you say "we have a big hole at OLB then"
I'm a SEC guy....Mingo is a beast!!!! I love Millner too...but we got a STUD!!!!
define stud?
15 sacks in 3 years?
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Have to say i would have rather had Milliner, But, Mingo is a very good player at a position we need help ... Now i really believe Sheard is History and headed to Atlanta ... JMHO 
why would Atlanta need him??? dont they have two good d ends?
(Abraham's replacement) The last time I was on the falcons board they were talking about how sheard would be better than any rookie they could draft @ #30 ... Denver also is looking at Sheard ...
were did you hear the broncos are looking at him??? i would be shocked...noone wants sheard unless maybe for a 3rd round pick....
You might be surprised, and i heard it on espn last week ...
sheard will never be Abraham.......sheard has to line up against the right tackle...he is not good enough to go up against the left tackles
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Well we have the best 4-3 defensive line in football now! Wait that's the wrong defense right?
Cone On you guys you know darn well Mingo was drated to play OLB not DE!!!
The point is we didn't need one to begin with! There is no way to convince me Mingo is worth where we took him when our secondary is in shambles.
If we were playing a 4-3 defense then this move would make some sense and be kind of awesome but we are running a base 3-4 defense.
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...and Mingo was his name-o.
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I absolutely agree Guard. I can't believe the friggin whining already. Pittsburgh would have snatch this guy up in a flash. We are going to run a defense like Pitsburgh's and believe me you need guys like Mingo. In this type scheme, a guy with Mingo's speed and fierceness, can become a James Harrison type without the cheapshots that is.
I love the pick. I liked Milliner, but I too had a change of mind after hearing about his surgery. Mingo is good against the run, even though someone above suggested he wasn't. We needed OLB's and always will in this defensive scheme, this is a good start.
I got a feeling we might trade to get back into the second, but I'm not sure who. I want Sheard to stay, I believe he is more of a situational guy than Mingo will be.
Pittsburgh has done very well with a strong front seven and so so DB's. We still have Haden, and there still are some left in the draft and FAs.
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"A Mingo ate my Big Ben"
More like "A Mingo bounces off of Big Ben for teh 5th time today"
Since I don't want to be called a hater, I'll stay consistent and here's what I said over the past few months on this board about Mingo, enjoy  ...also some positives in there, just not worth the risk at 6 overall imho
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I want 3down football players and Moore is one. If you think football is a sport where track guys run around blocks on the NFL level, then think twice...or just go ahead and draft 3rd down specialists like J.Jones or Mingo....I mean, these dudes were toast at the College level as soon as someone got a hand on them. It always looks cooler or flashier when one of those guys beats you every 30th play with speed while that OL was caught napping or someone missed an assignment...in the NFL you need to be more than that. Jones is especially concerning to me since I see some lack of hustle in his play, Mingo tries but just is too light to defeat blocks.
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Jones and Mingo simply aren't 3 down players. If you want to draft Bruce Irvin or M.Ingram at 6, go ahead and do it but don't come whining when the opposing RBs AVG 100+ yds/game. Since the league still runs at least 40% of the time, I'd very willingly trade 2-4 less sacks a year vs constantly good play vs the run instead of alibi run defending...and since guys like Ansah and Moore have a much higher motor than the speedsters I'd even expect them to make up in the sack column to make it a wash there.
If Lombardi takes Jones or Mingo, then I know for sure he's still the same hype clown he was the last 25 years. There's one chance though: Ansah is also a hype player with actual tape to back it up. Not that I think that Lombardi is able to see it, but if Ansah puts on a show in Indy, which I expect, then Lombardi will fall in love too, lol...and Horton will be in his ear for the next 2 months leading up to the draft
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Funny, watching Bark Mingo for even only 1min you quickly get the difference compared to Jones.
While I'm not a Mingo fan, his body language, hand usage, motor and overall hustle are FAR better than Jones. You wanna know why Jones has better stats? Jones played standing up every snap and was allowed to run into the backfield almost every play. Mingo was lined up as a classic 4-3 DE where he is severly undersized. Standing up I see a much better football player
Watch that play at 1:12min for what I mean, he actually uses his head:
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As for Mingo, he's a one trick speed pony like J.Jones, but has a better motor. He's extremely raw and needs a lot of teaching and developing but I can see him become a good one, but it will take time, so I'm not sure I'd invest a top 15-20 or even top 50 pick on a conversion project like him. Classic boom/bust, high ceiling, bust floor, although his floor is higher than Jones' because of his all out hustle
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3. -5. Jordan, Mingo, Jones in no order, I think all 3 will struggle in the NFL
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1. Mingo (speed, athleticism AND motor)
2. Ansah (power and motor, and the speed is there too, just needs reps and experience)
3.-5. in no order: Jones (speed and speed), Jordan (athleticism), Moore (motor and enough athleticism, see his SS and 3cone at ProDay)...all 3 are not balanced enough to be dominant imho
In coverage all 5 are projections and Jordan probably looks best because he simply was the only one with any experience there.I have my opinions based on some little things I saw with all of those guys, but it can go either way with all of them....that's coaching and how they respond to it....I like Jordan's, Ansah's and Mingo's chances there because of the mix of coachability and athleticism
With that said, it's easy to see why I'm high on Ansah, Moore and intrigued by Mingo.
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Browns should have taken Milner....stupid,stupid,stupid ....Mingo is good ,but not like what Milner gives a team.
Think that remains to be seen.
While I would have preferred a corner, Mingo tested off the charts (along with having a solid career in the best CFB conference). He was the combines top DE performer in the 40, vert, broad jump and 3 cone.
He's certainly not a scrub and to be honest, my distaste for all the is Buster Skrine is probably making me dislike the pick. 
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Considering they spent a lot of free agent money in the front 7, including two OLBs, I would have preferred Jonathan Cooper. While I know CB is a glaring need, that would be a lot of money tied up in your corners. They've got to resign Ward, etc. Too high for TE.
JC was the logical pick, and would have been a beautiful addition between Thomas & Mack (arena?).
I think we see Sheard, or maybe one or two others get moved. Will be interesting... Cause I'm not sure the Browns are done for the night. I certainly hope not... At this point, I'll give the Browns credit for a hell of a smokescreen... Everyone thought Milliner, or Smith, etc.
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I really don't like the pick...Mingo underachieved is very thin for his frame...weak on tape...and doesn't wow on tape either...would have loved Vaccaro Milliner or Rhodes via trade down
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Never mind that $#!^ ... here comes Mingo! 
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He also had 8 sacks as a sophomore.
He's a speedy pass rusher, which is what we need with this defensive scheme.
I would add that Ansah, who so many wanted, had 4.5 sacks and something like 8 tackles for loss last year as well. Ansah is a bigger player, without that elite first step. Mingo does have some elite level capabilities.
I can't believe that no DL have gone so far. I do think that the Raiders played this well, and will have traded down for Sharif Floyd ... who they probably would have taken at 3.
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Well we have the best 4-3 defensive line in football now! Wait that's the wrong defense right?
Cone On you guys you know darn well Mingo was drated to play OLB not DE!!!
So I can expect him to not only rush the passer but have the ability to tackle a running back in space, to cover a tight end or RB in pass coverage. A LINEBACKER can play off the ball. If he can't then we have two "linebackers" that have zero cover skills. Kruger is a pass rusher. Now with Bark we probably have another OLB that can ONLY be a pass rusher. They will both play up on the line. Making our defense a 5-2 D no matter what you call it....
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Mingo just pawn in game of life.
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. At this point, I'll give the Browns credit for a hell of a smokescreen... .
our FO has a history of making these types of picks... no one could have every predicted the picks they have made in the past.
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geee wiz fellas no wonder the Browns cant do anything they pass on a corner when it should of been addressed first.
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If you don't like it, you've never seen him play.
It's that simple.
I don't like it AT ALL BUT YOU ARE CORRECT i HAVE NEVER SEEN HIM PLAY WHICH IS THE MAIN REASON i DON'T COMMENT MUCH ON THE DRAFT SINCE i NEVER HAVE A CHANCE TO WATCH THE COLLAGE PLAYERS.
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Me either. Let's go get drunk. We got time before the 3rd round. 
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I like the Mingo pick, and listening to the guy on the Plain Dealer's website makes me feel even better about the pick.
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I took a vacation day from work today and I am already there bro lol
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It's that simple.
Care to talk football? What did he do that was good? Justify the pick. There's a lot of stuff said criticizing him.
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this is a terrible, terrible pick that has lombardi's finger prints all over it.
mingo is a physical freak who looks good on paper.
then you get him on the field and he DISAPPEARS!!!!!
he's tall and skinny and will get EATEN ALIVE in our division. big ben will pick this kid up by the throat and PILE DRIVE HIM.
AND we already have 2 OLB's!!!!!!!!!!!!!! great, now we have to trade sheard. and why, because he can't cover??? you think MINGO is going to be able to cover???????
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
3-13 is REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Me either. Let's go get drunk. We got time before the 3rd round.
I took a vacation day from work today and I am already there bro lol
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I like the Mingo pick, and listening to the guy on the Plain Dealer's website makes me feel even better about the pick.
Nice pickup bro.... but as always I don't care about my spelling, but I only care about our pick, and right now I am not to happy
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Why the hell would we trade Sheard? Why, exactly? We want lots of pass rushers .... to send rusher after rusher after rusher after the QB. I will make you a bet right now that Roethlisberger will not pick him up by the throat and body slam him. I will bet anything that this does not happen. 
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If you don't like it, you've never seen him play.
It's that simple.
Care to talk football? What did he do that was good? Justify the pick. There's a lot of stuff said criticizing him.
When I'm at a computer and not on my phone I will.
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the negative Browns fan in me sees Jarvis Jones falling to the Steelers where Mingo and Jones where be compared for the rest of their careers and Jones has proven production in college and translates it to the pros....Mingo...well, let's hope he turns into Ware or Aldon Smith
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I see the trolls are coming out. My favorite comment....has Lombardi's prints all over it. GMAB. One pick is in and already the FO is being thrown under the bus.
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I wanted Milliner and he was available, so I am disappointed. However, I think Mingo was a good choice. I would rather have Milliner, but Mingo is a good player. He is very explosive. He gets into the backfield and blows up both running and passing plays.
I am a little confused as to how they are going to play Kruger, Mingo, and Sheard-----unless they are going to trade Sheard??? Don't know.
Bottom line: Solid pick. Not great, but not nearly as stupid as trading up and giving up picks for TRich or drafting Weeden in round one. Much better than drafting Edwards. A far cry from drafting Joe Thomas. Way better than the disaster that was Brady Quinn. Maybe more dynamic than drafting Mack. Probably most similar to the Haden pick. Two good players that can make plays, but are quite elite.
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Come on, how bad could the pick be with "Bark" in his name?
I assume they're trying to build the strongest Front-7 they can. They'll find some secondary help in the 3rd round. I wouldn't be surprised to see them get an extra 3rd rounder.
I can't say I'm upset. I'm happy they didn't go Geno.
Go Browns!
the problem is that we are starting to look as stupid as Detroit for picking a WR in the first round 3 years in a row.
Taylor Sheard Rubin Kitchen Winn Hughes Bryant and Mingo that's 8 DL fighting for 3 starting spots and playing time.
we have DQ Groves Fort JMJ Roberton and Kruger at LB
who makes the move back to LB? Mingo? Sheard? Bryant?
IMO we added talent to one of the best DL in the league. The problem is that it doesn't matter how much talent you have in area if you can't get them all in the field at the same time. That is why this pick makes me scratch my head.
No one can look as stupid as Detroit. Anyway, Mingo is going to play OLB. We should have one heck of a pass rush.
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I took a vacation day from work today and I am already there bro lol
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Care to talk football? What did he do that was good? Justify the pick. There's a lot of stuff said criticizing him.
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