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Both those guys put up career highs when Horton was the coordinator.
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Both those guys put up career highs when Horton was the coordinator.
True, but do we have "those" players on the Browns? Answer is NO.
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Both those guys put up career highs when Horton was the coordinator.
Hehe, that funny.... makes ya wonder just what the heck he's complaining about, then.
Maybe he's just a Big Money clone... always running at the mouth.
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Both those guys put up career highs when Horton was the coordinator.
I am confused. Which two guys?
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Both those guys put up career highs when Horton was the coordinator.
Calias did, but that's because he is so young. 3 years then Horton, with his last year without Horton he put up around the same stats. Darnell, however, didn't as he had some great years before Horton.
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Dockett had 2 great years, and a bunch of average ones. (Yes, even before Horton arrived)
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Yeah well our DL, (outside of Desmond Bryant) does not really get after the quarterback. Phil, Rubin, Hughes, to a lesser extent Winn, are all big guys that do exactly what Horton's scheme will ask for and that's take on blockers. I'm not too worried that the Darnell Docket's of the world didn't like his scheme; I think it suits our personnel in the front seven to a T. With Taylor back at full strength from the torn pecs last year, Rubin, Bryant (who's rated among one of the best two-way D-lineman in the league) our linebackers will roam free.
This D really has a chance to play with some swag. I just hope we get a camp casualty at free safety. Somebody had mentioned Kerry Rhodes, yeah I'd be cool with that.
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Dockett one on one against a tackle is a matchup nightmare. I can see where playing a 3-4 and just throwing yourself into the guard-tackle gap to eat up blocks might get frustrating cause you'll rarely get to the Quarterback that way.
I'm really excited to see our new defense play. Rubin and Taylor both did a good job last year getting inside pressure, now we have some legit edge rushers to help them out. It should be fun to watch that's for sure.
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Most has been said.
1. mentally envisioning our new D I saw gap attacks with exception to possibly the NT taking on the blockers. Not sure what role Dockett played I just know he underachieved.
2. Why I wanted Rubin to be the NT n Hughes thinking Taylor was not going to be discipline enough to take on blockers as opposed to shooting a gap??? We'll see.
3. Players on a team always state they are excited about the NEW Defense - Even our own regarding our new D. Its all about them Believing in the NEW D as the season wears on. Also lets face it Football is not that Fun if you are LOSING. If you are winning Everyone is into it 
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Most has been said.
1. mentally envisioning our new D I saw gap attacks with exception to possibly the NT taking on the blockers. Not sure what role Dockett played I just know he underachieved.
2. Why I wanted Rubin to be the NT n Hughes thinking Taylor was not going to be discipline enough to take on blockers as opposed to shooting a gap??? We'll see.
3. Players on a team always state they are excited about the NEW Defense - Even our own regarding our new D. Its all about them Believing in the NEW D as the season wears on. Also lets face it Football is not that Fun if you are LOSING. If you are winning Everyone is into it
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I like your third point you made. Being negative can break up or for a better word, split a locker room. The Browns do not need this will all the changes taking place with D scheme and personnel changes. The organization needs positive attitudes not negative ones. Let us hope Dockett changes his tune because if he does it can benifit the tems success now and in the long run.
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Most has been said.
1. mentally envisioning our new D I saw gap attacks with exception to possibly the NT taking on the blockers. Not sure what role Dockett played I just know he underachieved.
2. Why I wanted Rubin to be the NT n Hughes thinking Taylor was not going to be discipline enough to take on blockers as opposed to shooting a gap??? We'll see.
3. Players on a team always state they are excited about the NEW Defense - Even our own regarding our new D. Its all about them Believing in the NEW D as the season wears on. Also lets face it Football is not that Fun if you are LOSING. If you are winning Everyone is into it
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I like your third point you made. Being negative can break up or for a better word, split a locker room. The Browns do not need this will all the changes taking place with D scheme and personnel changes. The organization needs positive attitudes not negative ones. Let us hope Dockett changes his tune because if he does it can benifit the tems success now and in the long run.
Wait, Im confused!!!
Is Dockett on the Browns now or is he still in Arizona????    
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Ok if true why would this even be a debate. I am reading off you folks, nothing more nothing less. I don't have time to research everything, but since I thought this place dealt with facts I assumed he was. I'll move on I guess and find a place without dealing with meaningless topics. Thank you for the insight but I am sure I can find a place which deals with facts.
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Dockett is not a Brown.
So why did Annialator say this?...
Let us hope Dockett changes his tune because if he does it can benifit the tems success now and in the long run.
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Ok if true why would this even be a debate. I am reading off you folks, nothing more nothing less. I don't have time to research everything, but since I thought this place dealt with facts I assumed he was. I'll move on I guess and find a place without dealing with meaningless topics. Thank you for the insight but I am sure I can find a place which deals with facts.
no worries, you misunderstood, but you might want to read the first post in a thread before commenting. it was clear there that Dockett was excited for the new DC and he noted how he didn't like having to "take one for the team" under Horton (in that the 3-4 requires DE's to be double teamed more often, at least that is what I think he was trying to say)
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Hey, I've been on this board for a long time. A long time (with a couple of bans, by the way). This board will go on long after me if choose to leave. In fact, I would guess not more than 1 or 2 would be sad if I left, if even that many. (a lot more might be happy if I left.......I don't know)
In other words, if you're leaving, don't let the door hit you in the butt. If you're not leaving, congrats.
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I don't want to leave but at the same time do not want to upset others. It is what it is, thank you for accepting me!
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Ok if true why would this even be a debate. I am reading off you folks, nothing more nothing less. I don't have time to research everything, but since I thought this place dealt with facts I assumed he was. I'll move on I guess and find a place without dealing with meaningless topics. Thank you for the insight but I am sure I can find a place which deals with facts.
The fact is that Darnell Dockett is not a Brown.
It doesn't take a lot of research to figure this out. It was actually stated in the article.
And at no point did anyone claim that Dockett was a Brown, nor did anyone treat you harshly in pointing out that he wasn't.
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Its bizarre-o world. I thought that yesterday, and now I'm convinced.
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I'm from the USA. I hope I cleared that up. I made a mistake and admit it, that is on me, sorry I confused some of you.
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"Darnell and myself, I feel like we have the ability to make a lot of different plays, but sometimes in the 3-4 you have to put the team in front of yourself. This defense, the way we are doing things, it gives us a chance to make a difference," Campbell said.
Sometimes?
This is what stuck out to me too.
WE DON'T NEED A QB BEFORE WE GET A LINE THAT CAN PROTECT HIM
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Hey, I've been on this board for a long time. A long time (with a couple of bans, by the way). This board will go on long after me if choose to leave. In fact, I would guess not more than 1 or 2 would be sad if I left, if even that many. (a lot more might be happy if I left.......I don't know)
In other words, if you're leaving, don't let the door hit you in the butt. If you're not leaving, congrats.
So your basically stating you want me to leave. Guess what you do not or never will control me, I'll post when I want to don't come across as a jerk, you are nothing but a fan, as am I but do not try to tell me what to do, because I can ]ind screw you just like your trying to do to me. Check yourself, and quit the punk attitude, since it means nothing to me Brother Like I care about your past history, Bah, you did that to yourself, and frankly I don' care my friend. Get help it sounds as if you need it my friend.
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sorry
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We almost need a "reference" for the newer posters so they understand things like ham sandwiches and such.
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Or make the rules a tad be clearer. I read them, and did think I was doing right, obviously I am wrong I guess,. sorry folks my bad.
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Hey, I've been on this board for a long time. A long time (with a couple of bans, by the way). This board will go on long after me if choose to leave. In fact, I would guess not more than 1 or 2 would be sad if I left, if even that many. (a lot more might be happy if I left.......I don't know)
In other words, if you're leaving, don't let the door hit you in the butt. If you're not leaving, congrats.
So your basically stating you want me to leave. Guess what you do not or never will control me, I'll post when I want to don't come across as a jerk, you are nothing but a fan, as am I but do not try to tell me what to do, because I can mind screw you just like your trying to do to me. Check yourself, and quit the punk attitude, since it means nothing to me Brother Like I care about your past history, Bah, you did that to yourself, and frankly I don' care my friend. Get help it sounds as if you need it my friend.
Hey, what's with the drama? You sat there and asked us
if you should leave....and that if so it would be no sweat off your back or something to that affect. Now your whining because you perceived Arch's post as saying that?
Actually he's not saying that at all....it sounds to me like he's fine whether you stay or not (as are the rest of us). Arch has been here since the board's inception and has developed a lot of close relationships here. He doesn't expect tears to be shed if he leaves here, and neither should you.
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Annihilator has apologized and that should be the end of the story. As far as being indifferent to him leaving: All posters are a treasured resource (whatever side of the fence you're on) and should be treated as such...
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Hey, I've been on this board for a long time. A long time (with a couple of bans, by the way). This board will go on long after me if choose to leave. In fact, I would guess not more than 1 or 2 would be sad if I left, if even that many. (a lot more might be happy if I left.......I don't know)
In other words, if you're leaving, don't let the door hit you in the butt. If you're not leaving, congrats.
So your basically stating you want me to leave. Guess what you do not or never will control me, I'll post when I want to don't come across as a jerk, you are nothing but a fan, as am I but do not try to tell me what to do, because I can mind screw you just like your trying to do to me. Check yourself, and quit the punk attitude, since it means nothing to me Brother Like I care about your past history, Bah, you did that to yourself, and frankly I don' care my friend. Get help it sounds as if you need it my friend.
Were you just combing through threads offering to leave, waiting for someone to take the bait so you could stand on a high horse and declare that you weren't?
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OMG Purple. Your sig cracks me up. That was from Less Nesman WKRP in Cincinatti?
Well, it was actually the station manager that said that line, but yes, it is from WKRP and the episode where Less is in the field reporting on the "Turkey Drop" :-)
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if this was during the season, then it'd be awfully annoying. but, in the dead of the offseason, it's highly entertaining.
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Classic. 
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A show not often remembered. I guess it wasn't the Station Mgr. Purple...that would be the Normal guy...it was the Station Owner who said it. So funny n a great memory of yours.
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"Mr Carlson had the helicopter land in the parking lot. He let the rest of the turkeys loose. I guess he thought he could save the day. It gets a little strange after that."
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Ahh yeah, I so had a thing for Bailey.. Loni Anderson never did it for me.
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In other words, if you're leaving, don't let the door hit you in the butt. If you're not leaving, congrats.
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as will I. Odd how that works, isn't it?
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Like I care about your past history, Bah, you did that to yourself, and frankly I don' care my friend. Get help it sounds as if you need it my friend.
Again, interesting choice of words in your last 2 sentences. For you to glean all of that out of my post, I wonder if you forgot your meds today.
Read Jfan's reply to you. It kinda nice and neatly sums up what I was saying.
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