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Lmfao, I would marry Lombardi if he could pull off that deal hahahaha
Do you think we could get Pastor to officiate?
I just did a marriage this morning, they were male and female, if thats the case then yes ...
Congrats to the new couple. Here's to a long and productive marriage for them.
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j/c Did the Arizona Cardinals Make the Right Move by Cutting Brian Hoyer? The Arizona Cardinals cut veteran QB Brian Hoyer on May 13th after deliberating whether he or second-year quarterback Ryan Lindley were the lesser of evils. Apparently the Cardinals brass believes that Lindley has more of an upside going toward the future. Now, I believe that Hoyer has more talent and smarts than Lindley, but he doesn’t have the size or the arm strength to push the ball down field the way Bruce Arians wants his quarterbacks to. The smart thing to do for the Cardinals offensive system was to let go of Hoyer and keep the young, strong-armed QB that fits the playbook. Let’s keep in mind though, that they were each set for the third spot on the depth chart, so what does it matter if the guy perfectly fits in the offensive scheme if, barring catastrophic injuries to the other QBs, he’ll never see the field anyway? Either of them would’ve just been destined to hold the clipboard the entire season. Hoyer is a great game manager and is a perfect option for the third spot on the chart. If somehow the top 2 quarterbacks really did get hurt at the same time, he could come in and do exactly what Kevin Kolb did until he was injured last season, manage the game. He would’ve been the better option for the Cards to keep. Lindley is good in his own respect, but I don’t think he can manage a situation as well as Hoyer. On top of that, he doesn’t have the experience to handle that sort of thing, and that showed last season when he came into the game to replace John Skelton and could hardly even complete a pass. Granted, the offensive line was in shambles, but by the time Lindley had taken the reins of the offense, the line was vastly improved from the beginning of the season. Even with the offensive line that was better than what Kolb had to deal with, Lindley went 9/20 for only 64 yards in that game. That’s just a 3.2 yard average. In the words of the great Charles Barkley, that’s just terrible. Oh, and his passer rating for the year was 46.7, which isn’t too good. Nobody will tell you that either Lindley or Hoyer are starting-quarterback caliber. However, one is a “serviceable” backup whilst the other is a fully capable backup/game-manager. Being able to step up in the case of an injury and control the chaos as much as possible is exactly what Hoyer is good at. He can do whatever you ask him to on short notice and has great spacial awareness for somebody who doesn’t warrant the starting grade. With the Browns needing a quarterback, it would be realistic to expect Hoyer to see the field a bit there. Everything the new regime has done thus far has been great, up until now. Cutting Hoyer and keeping Lindley was a bad move. Let’s just hope it doesn’t come back to haunt the Cards. http://raisingzona.com/2013/05/24/did-th..._medium=twitter
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If cutting a competitor for your 3rd string QB spot "comes back to haunt" a team, then they have far more problems than the QB spot. 
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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Did you say the same thing on the T. Lewis thread?
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Checked for myself. Not a peep from you even though guys like mac were ripping our new FO for cutting Lewis and keeping Hoyer. Interesting, at the very least. My guess is that it is also very revealing. 
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Vers.....you worry too much about Mac. Even his friends who aren't many, don't align all that close. Every now and again Mac makes a soild point and when he does I make it a point to agree and comment on it, just so he knows I am not targeting him in some way. Maybe aging has allowed me to chill a bit over the years. I still get in to fights, but time has told me to do a better job of picking and choosing. We go back a long way and for probably 85% of that we have agreed on most topics, but from friend to friend, it doesn't hurt to just let some things bounce off. Some fights aren't worth fighing. Pick and choose. Then you get a little wiggle room if you stretch the rules a bit. I have skated the edge a few times, but usually after a few prods along the way, so I get a little slack every now and then. I have also learned I am a WAY better poster at 5:00AM over 7:30PM for reasons I'll hold near....those who know me know it isn't all that close....let's just say I am better off going to bed at 8PM over posting on a message board because somebody is going to post something that is going to tick me off and I am going to be less restrained in telling them what I really think.  ....which in the message board world isn't usually smiled upon by the refs, not to mention the other poster.
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I sure get a lot of advice on how to post around here. Don't say this. Don't say that. Chill. Let it go. Ignore that guy. Ignore this guy. If only I were as smart as all of you.... 
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Don't say this. Don't say that. Chill. Let it go. Ignore that guy. Ignore this guy.
If only I were as smart as all of you....
Geesh man....sorry I made the comment.
I am not telling you how to post. Sorry you took if for more than it was intended.
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Sorry peen. But, you would not believe how many pms I have gotten telling me how to post.
I got guys on here ripping on me and if I say something back..........I get advice on how to post properly.
Please!
I get what you are saying, but do you remember when it was you and I against everyone on the Timid issue? It was brutal. But man, it was worth it because it turned out they were all full of crap! The guy never won another job in the NFL and ended up taking roids. I'll never forget the "Open Apology Letter to Tim Couch" thread. LMAO.
You may have changed, bro.............and I have mellowed some.........but I will still stand up for what I believe in and call out people I think are full of crap. I realize that irritates a lot of people, but I think my track record speaks for itself in regards to right/wrong.
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I remember....I was happy when you showed up....same with Collins. Nobody wanted to hear that possibly Collins had a point and maybe Savage wasn't very good.
All's good bro.
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Checked for myself. Not a peep from you even though guys like mac were ripping our new FO for cutting Lewis and keeping Hoyer.
Interesting, at the very least. My guess is that it is also very revealing.
How many times do I even respond to mac at all? I think that I have responded to something he has posted 1 or 2 times in the past month. Frankly, most times I don't even read what he posts, and almost never reply to him. It is a pointless exercise in futility, because he will never admit to ever being wrong. Ever. It gets old. He gets a position in his head, and no matter what evidence if presented to the contrary, he won't even think about changing his position. He's right, the sky is purple with green polka dots, even if it's a lovely shade of blue.
As far as the front office, I have been one of the more vocal proponents of giving the new front office time to see how they actually do before ripping them.
Anything else to complain about? Geesh. 
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No, that's it for now. 
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Maybe aging has allowed me to chill a bit over the years....I still get in to fights, but time has told me to do a better job of picking and choosing.
Well 'peen, I find myself the opposite. With aging ( and soon I will be a great grandfather), I find myself running out odf time, and as such, I really don't give a hoot (with the exception of a select very few posters) what my fellow posters think of me. I try to post quality and inject some humor on occasion, and if I can leave one poster with something to think about, then I have added value to the board.
I don't get into tit-for-tat as I really don't care, but I do try to bring back the whacko posts to Ground Zero if I can. Over the years on the Browns board, I have gotten into some "sessions" with a poster or two (ya, you Vers, my friend), but we have always remained on good terms. Life is too short to cut meaningful ties even though we have never met.
I ask all you guys to do all the you wish, but stay close as we are all on the boat, just seated in different places. I respect you all whatever your viewpoint, but please keep in mind that that this is OUR team and wish for the same goal. Respectfully submited...
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers...Socrates
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j/c I just watched Hoyer's interview on the Brown's website. First time hearing the kid speak. I liked what I heard, very softly and honest speaking kid. If anyone hasn't heard it, I would recommend it. Link here: http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-cen...1a-8352ffb1ac3b
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