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I dunno if I like this .... but it is news ..... so I post it ...... Browns giving Jim Brown front-office position in Cleveland - CBSSports.com http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on...on-in-clevelandJim Brown is a Hall of Famer. He's an NFL legend and perhaps the greatest running back to ever play the game. And now he's reportedly set to become a member of the Browns front office. Tony Grossi of ESPN Cleveland reports that new Browns owner Jimmy Haslam will introduce Brown as a member of the team's front office at a news conference Wednesday. “It's a big deal. It's a nice peace,” a source told Grossi. Peace is indeed nice for Brown and the Browns. The running back was previously associated with the front office as an advisor to former owner Randy Lerner. But he was offered what he called a reduced role when Mike Holmgren took over the team as president and that reduction clearly upset Brown, who said in a letter that Holmgren wanted him to be a "mascot." Brown, who played nine Pro Bowl seasons for the Browns before retiring at 29, was so mad he skipped his own Ring of Honor induction ceremony and later took shots at Lerner and the organization. The Hall of Famer also caused a stir when he said he thought that new Browns running back Trent Richardson was "ordinary" and not at all "outstanding." Brown would later come around on Richardson and the organization as a whole, reuniting with other Cleveland alumni. Now it appears things are prepared to come full circle, with Brown taking his role back with the Browns after several years away. Regardless of how symbolic it might be, it's a strong move by the current regime.
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I hope it's just as an ambassador and nothing more, and we can finally put this thing to rest.
I totally understand his being a little bitter about Randy not having the stones to talk to him about his role being changed. I don't think that's cool at all, but no-showing to the ceremony and turning your back on the fans was horrible. I think he thought that would somehow come back on Randy or Mike. He could have been the bigger man and showed up. You can still have your beef with team and give the fans that moment.
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I'll always prefer Bernie to Jim...but that's just me. I think Bernie as a legitimate offensive consultant.. especially since we have a slow footed plodder at QB, wouldn't be a bad idea.
I'll be interested to find out what Jim's role will be. It's not like they hired him to be GM. With Jim I just don't get the sense that he is a positive and happy guy. Maybe it is all context when speaking about the browns over the years, but I really hope we get to hear from a happier and brighter guy.
As a side note. I have heard much made about Jim Brown retiring too young. With this article I just found out he was 29 at the time. Which is the typical decline in a running backs health and career. I'm much more okay with his retirement now that I know this.
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I'll always prefer Bernie to Jim...but that's just me. I think Bernie as a legitimate offensive consultant.. especially since we have a slow footed plodder at QB, wouldn't be a bad idea.
I'll be interested to find out what Jim's role will be. It's not like they hired him to be GM. With Jim I just don't get the sense that he is a positive and happy guy. Maybe it is all context when speaking about the browns over the years, but I really hope we get to hear from a happier and brighter guy.
As a side note. I have heard much made about Jim Brown retiring too young. With this article I just found out he was 29 at the time. Which is the typical decline in a running backs health and career. I'm much more okay with his retirement now that I know this.
I had a friend who played for Paul Brown while in the Navy and later for the Browns. He was a colorful character. He knew Jim Brown quite well. By his account, Jim Brown was, is and will always be, an angry man. It was that anger that fueled him on the field. He was not an easy man to like. Anyone who thinks Jim Brown is somehow supposed to put on a happy face and be some kind of corporate Teddy Bear just doesn't understand how he played the game. He played hard. He played to win. Nobody ever nominated him for Miss Congeniality, though, because the tiara would have been painful when he shoved it up your backsides. We need a team full of Jim Browns, you know, winners.
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Jim Brown back with the Browns is one of those nice things they can do for him and the image of the team, as it's very press-friendly.
...And also a waste of money IMHO, but whatever.
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jc So does this mean Jim Brown will stop running his mouth and etc, now he's collecting an easy money paycheck from the Browns organization? 
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This is a good PR move. That's about it.
I'll reserve full judgment on this move until the actual position and job description is released but I'm hoping it is generally a small role with zero counsel on talent/players.
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This is how badly we are hanging on the successes of 50 years ago. So damn sad. 
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I want us to remember our past, but this isn't making me happy. As an aside, I absolutely HATE when new people in our organization come in and say stuff like "with the Browns rich history" or "Cleveland's storied past." Please spare us (especially people who are under the age of 30 like myself.) Most of our players wouldn't even know who the hell the "old" players are, nor would they even care.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I love JB the Football player, don't actually care much for him as the man he is portrayed to be in the press.
I'd rather not have the team have anything more than a PR type role.. But he doesn't sound like the kinda guy that will accept that. And that right there scares the hell out of me.
Someone else mentioned it, I'd love to see Bernie in the mix somehow., not sure how, but somehow..
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I tend to be one of the few on here, especially those over 40, that wish the Browns would mix things up a little. I'm not saying forget the past, just accept that it was a LONG time ago... change up the uniforms (not the colors, just the uniform design), add cheerleaders, create something a little fresh and new around the team
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I tend to be one of the few on here, especially those over 40, that wish the Browns would mix things up a little. I'm not saying forget the past, just accept that it was a LONG time ago... change up the uniforms (not the colors, just the uniform design), add cheerleaders, create something a little fresh and new around the team
I had lots of issues with adding cheerleaders until I found out that we did have them a long long time ago. Then I thought wait,, why not do it again.
As for the colors,, Those need to remain. I was also against changing the Uni's for a long time, but I'm warming to the idea that a classy change might now be in order..
But all that aside, get me wins and the can come out there in pink tutu's if they want.... 
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I don't want to change the colors and I'd rather not change the helmet.. other than that, I'd like to see something a little different.
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I don't mind it.....face it, Jim Brown is the best player this team ever had. The best player in NFL history IMO.
As I see it, you find a way to bring that in and feed off whatever energy is left.
I am way past the point of asking for autographs. The last one I seeked was from Jack Nicklaus when his son was playing at the US Amateur hosted by my club maybe 20 years ago. He signed 3 of my hats. One for me, two for friends.
I'd ask Jim Brown for a autograph.
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I agree, I don't get all googly around celebs (never really have) but there are some that are just great and to meet them, shake their hand, share a couple words is kind of cool..
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j/c "It's important to me because he's clearly in the top couple and maybe the single-most important part of the history of the franchise," Banner said. "It's the right thing to do." "It's only right to bring Jim Brown back, it's the perfect time for him," Jackson said. "He did a lot when he was here. His presence alone for a young guy to see and have a conversation with him . . . After being around him for three years it was just amazing to see him walking around. I don't know where everything stands for him, but I would want him back. I definitely want him back. That's the easy way to say it." "For me, to spend a day with Jim is exciting," Kosar said. "It's exciting. I think it's great (he's back), with what he's doing with his charities, too. I think the influence he can have on some of the younger kids and some of the younger players is great." Added former Browns defensive back Hanford Dixon: "When you think of the Cleveland Browns you think of guys like Jim Brown . . . I just think we need more of the guys to be part of the organization," he said. "You have a lot of guys here with great, great football minds who can help this organization. To have Jim back is great." http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/05/jim_brown_returning_to_clevela.html
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What will he exactly be doing?
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Keeping a low profile, a positive attitude and ensuring peace and harmony.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul.
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I'm not an autograph seeker myself. I'd rather have my picture taken with whomever the celeb is. Last autographs I sought out were golfers, for my Dad. My employer is the key sponsor for the Senior PGA Championship (just played this past weekend in St.Louis, MO), so we get golfers to our events. One year I got Craig Stadler (who's wife is from Medina, OH) and my Dad was thrilled. Last yearI got Andy North - I also got a putting lesson from Andy,he's such a nice guy.
My point is, Jm Brown is an autograph I'd seek out,but it'd be for my Dad. Brown is/was an idol for my Dad growing up, especially since Dad was also an RB when heplayed football in high school in the 60s.
As a player,Brown was incomparable. As a man,he leaves a lot to be desired. Unsure what he'll be doing with the team, but I hope it's more not in the public eye.
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Yeah, and Deion Sanders is going to start teaching tackling at football clinics
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Jim is far from a Saint, but he can relate to people (young people) and I see no problem with this at all. If he can help one or two of the young guys out then I don't see any problem with this move. every little bit helps
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Jim is a butt head. He is ignorant, and rants and complains about any perceived slight. He is far, far too convinced of his own greatness and importance in today's world.
He was a great player. He walked away from his team to go make a movie. His replacement was also a Hall of Fame player. Brown was a great, great football player. As a man, however, he has been quite disappointing on many occasions.
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Your definition of the term "winner" clearly differs from my own.
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Jim was the first one to say Leroy would be a Hall Of Famer. He also speaks his mind no matter who gives a damn about it. As far as being a man all of us men have been disappointments at times in our lives. I challenge you to find a few women who disagree with that. 
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Your definition of the term "winner" clearly differs from my own.
As far as football is concerned ... if you don't think that dude is a winner, you're insane.
As far as life is concerned ... different story.
If I equated football and life ... I'd have some serious problems, and I probably wouldn't be here typing.
Our owner is (allegedly) a scumbag. Most of our players are scumbags.
I don't root for good people. I root for touchdowns and wins.
Not trying to defend Jim Brown ... I think he's a scumbag.
But if that's the litmus test? Well, then, screw professional sports. I have no use for it.
Except that ain't the case. 
I wouldn't go as far to say that Brown deserves a front office gig ... but I won't say he doesn't, if that makes sense.
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Motivating our rookies by belittling them, and doing some PR work for the team in front of the cameras. Hopefully he is just going to be keeping his old bitter yap shut and collecting some paychecks.
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Motivating our rookies by belittling them, and doing some PR work for the team in front of the cameras. Hopefully he is just going to be keeping his old bitter yap shut and collecting some paychecks.
That is my take on Jim Brown anyways. I dont think he gives a crap if the Browns are successful or Cleveland finally has a winner; he's more concerned with his own wallet. He only felt "slighted" because his wallet did.
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They are supposed to clear that up at a Presser today..
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It is sad, BpG. And while we get another round of rump patting after another lousy coach/season/record/ telling us we are the finest fans of the game, it makes me sad. Sad for where we are, how we have failed to win, and, mostly how we are taken for granted. LIke it or not, I am most sad about the Legacy we have had since the Return in'99. We have a new tradition, and it needs to be replaced. Don't change a thing until it happens. 
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Glad to have Jim Brown back in the fold after what that piece of crap Holmgren did to him. I think Jim Brown has helped a lot of young men over the years. Troubled young men. He should be an asset to the organization. We have all heard over and over and over about his faults, but not many ever mention how many young men he has helped. Glad he is back where he should be.
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Glad to have Jim Brown back in the fold after what that piece of crap Holmgren did to him. I think Jim Brown has helped a lot of young men over the years. Troubled young men. He should be an asset to the organization. We have all heard over and over and over about his faults, but not many ever mention how many young men he has helped. Glad he is back where he should be.
Just curious, not calling you out or anything, but who? Ive heard this before, but never seen anything that actually stated it. Like is there some articles somewhere of guys he has helped turn it around?
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Here is one thing:
Brown remains heavily involved in Amer-I-Can, which he founded in 1988 to help disadvantaged youth learn life skills and stay out of trouble. He was also named to the board that will help administer a $42 million fund from the NFL to retired players.
Google it. There is a lot of information about it.
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Great PR move for a franchise that has had little positive happen in recent months.
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I dont know that I would call it great. It seems the fans (at least from this small sample) are kind of split. Seems some of us would rather he just go away.
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I think I would rather have him prove that he cares about the Browns and Cleveland without being paid to do so ... but that has never been the case.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Brown remains heavily involved in Amer-I-Can, which he founded in 1988 to help disadvantaged youth learn life skills and stay out of trouble. He was also named to the board that will help administer a $42 million fund from the NFL to retired players.
Google it. There is a lot of information about it.
The quote above, which is very relavent to this thread, proves it doesn't belong in Pure Football thread. Now if his new job is to be the new fullback, I will change my mind.
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