I feel like that guy when I am talking to my wife sometimes ... hell, any female for that matter . We have to young twenty-something office girls and listening to them makes me want to jam pens through my ears.
Yep, that's just about right .... except how it's also all my fault.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
My wife had a few of her girlfriends over and I just showed them this,. I now have a nail in my head.. and I can tell you for sure,,,,, IT IS ABOUT THE NAIL dammit.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
This is a smart video, but judging from the comments here and on YouTube, it's cleverness has only been half recognized. (And I bet the creators of this video only get it by half as well.) Sometimes a woman has a problem to which a solution is clear, and yet she seems to prefer an endless exposition of the problem over fixing it. In this regard, the video makes a good point. But if you think that only a woman can play the role of person-with-nail-in-head, well.... you don't know men very well. Not all men, of course, as I am certain every man here will maintain that this portrayal does not apply to him. And if we are going to be fair, we should admit that this doesn't apply to every woman either. (If you think it does, then you might be a fitting candidate for a sequel to this video -- "It's not about the nails in my eyes").
Now, why is this video so clever? Because the critique goes both ways. Does every problem from which one suffers psychological pain have a simple solution? A fair answer to this question would have to be "no." And yet, men often act as though every problem has a simple solution, and they rarely hesitate to offer their opinion regardless of the actual simplicity or complexity of the matter. When a man listens to a woman complaining about a problem, he always sees the "simple solution" just like the man in this video sees a nail in the woman's head. It's a great metaphorical rendering of the oblivious, insensate man who, when confronted with a female problem, regardless of its actual simplicity or complexity, reduces the problem to something as simple as a nail in the head.
As ridiculous as this video makes the woman out to be, the man is just as ridiculous. If only the creators were half as clever as the unintentioned content of their video, they might have been able to clarify this double critique for us. As it stands, the video doesn't get far past the usual, uninteresting gender stereotyping. I noticed some of the YouTube commenters showed this video to their wives, and it was not well received. No doubt these men assume their wives hate the video because it gets "a little too close to the truth," (and perhaps it does). But I bet the primary reason for the angry responses from the wives is the rather obvious hypocrisy in the husbands unwittingly championing a video that critiques their own blindness and insensitivity. And sharing the video as if it were the final word on female problems only reinforces the videos more subtle message that these husbands are again dealing with nails. The wives get it, and they can't believe they have to put up with more of this male reductionism at their own expense.
Quote: This is a smart video, but judging from the comments here and on YouTube, it's cleverness has only been half recognized. (And I bet the creators of this video only get it by half as well.) Sometimes a woman has a problem to which a solution is clear, and yet she seems to prefer an endless exposition of the problem over fixing it. In this regard, the video makes a good point. But if you think that only a woman can play the role of person-with-nail-in-head, well.... you don't know men very well. Not all men, of course, as I am certain every man here will maintain that this portrayal does not apply to him. And if we are going to be fair, we should admit that this doesn't apply to every woman either. (If you think it does, then you might be a fitting candidate for a sequel to this video -- "It's not about the nails in my eyes").
Now, why is this video so clever? Because the critique goes both ways. Does every problem from which one suffers psychological pain have a simple solution? A fair answer to this question would have to be "no." And yet, men often act as though every problem has a simple solution, and they rarely hesitate to offer their opinion regardless of the actual simplicity or complexity of the matter. When a man listens to a woman complaining about a problem, he always sees the "simple solution" just like the man in this video sees a nail in the woman's head. It's a great metaphorical rendering of the oblivious, insensate man who, when confronted with a female problem, regardless of its actual simplicity or complexity, reduces the problem to something as simple as a nail in the head.
As ridiculous as this video makes the woman out to be, the man is just as ridiculous. If only the creators were half as clever as the unintentioned content of their video, they might have been able to clarify this double critique for us. As it stands, the video doesn't get far past the usual, uninteresting gender stereotyping. I noticed some of the YouTube commenters showed this video to their wives, and it was not well received. No doubt these men assume their wives hate the video because it gets "a little too close to the truth," (and perhaps it does). But I bet the primary reason for the angry responses from the wives is the rather obvious hypocrisy in the husbands unwittingly championing a video that critiques their own blindness and insensitivity. And sharing the video as if it were the final word on female problems only reinforces the videos more subtle message that these husbands are again dealing with nails. The wives get it, and they can't believe they have to put up with more of this male reductionism at their own expense.
Ah, well... and so the war of the sexes rages on.
Wow. You read a lot more into that video than I did. I just thought it was humorous..........but now I feel guilty for feeling that way.
Eh, I find this problem to be very misogynistic as well as most of its viewers. Complaining about a problem that poses an easy solution is not a girl thing at all, but a human thing. Just a quick example, we've all gathered on this forum because a team we love has caused us extreme heartbreak over the past few decades and we've never been happy with this reincarnation of the team. Now logic would say if we're not happy than we should leave (the nail in the head), but we'd rather just ***** and moan about the Browns on here instead. Not that that's wrong, it's just something we do, and hopefully only stop because we have nothing to complain about.
The video was funny .... and I dont feel bad at all. I've had that conversation with just about every girl I ever dated. I still dont know why she asks me which looks better and always pick the opposite one??? lol and majority of the time neither option is what is worn.
Yeah ... and I truly have had this one ...... (or very similar)
Her: "Which one of these should I wear?"
Me: "I don't know. They both look nice."
Her: "But you must have one you prefer between them."
Me: "You look great no matter what you're wearing. You'll be the most beautiful woman in the room in either outfit."
Her: "Yeah, but you must really like one more than the other. Why won't you just tell be which one?"
Me: "OK, I like the yellow one."
Her: "Hmmph. I liked the pink one better. You know, I really don't feel like going now. You think I'm fat and ugly. You don't love me anymore, and don't want to be seen with me." (tears and uncontrolled sobbing)
Me: "Sigh"
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
You seem like a good enough guy. Let me help you out here.
Quote: Yeah ... and I truly have had this one ...... (or very similar)
Her: "Which one of these should I wear?"
Me: "The yellow one. Definitely the yellow one."
Her: "That's kind of what I was thinking."
Me: "Ok, we're going to this place with these people, then we are going to that place with those people. How much longer are you going to take?"
Her: "Just give me 5 minutes." *mwah*
Me: *crack open a beverage, make a phone call, or check dawgtalkers. Consider doing all three.*
Her: "I'm ready! I am so excited to do this!!"
Me: "Ok get in the car. Let's go. (Probably open the door for her when you can, but don't feel too badly about forgetting from time to time. It happens.)
Most of the time woman want to talk about their problems. ALL the time us guys want to identify the problem and fix it asap. I am sorry but that is a major difference in men and women. We can deny it all we want but that's the way our brains are wired. I am not saying either side is right or wrong it just points out just how different we really are
I have a great gal. She rarely puts me through drama, and she's always been there for me- always, in little ways as well as big. But we do have a communication "issue."
This scene took place not more than 6 hours ago: I kid you not.
[phone rings] [He]: Hey, babe. You on your way home?" [She] "Nope. On my way to another appointment. Hey- do me a favor- go get on the computer and tell me where 819 ****** St. is.." [He]: "OK- gimme a minute... " [She] "It's off Nebraska, but I need to know whether to go right or left to get to it." [He] "Well, which way are you going?" [She]: "What difference does it make?" [He]: "Hon- it makes all the difference...." [She (almost under her breath) ] "I knew this was a bad idea when I called...." [He, ignoring the slight]: "Are you heading toward town or away from town?" (Hoping to determine an east or west bearing) [She] "I told you- I'm on Nebraska!" [He] *sigh* "OK... tell me the name of the next cross street when you get to it..." [She] "OK... gimme a minute. (tick tock...) You know, this would be easier if you just tried to do it my way- yadda yadda yadda, reenee, reenee,, reenee... OK- it's ********." [He (blinking at Google Maps screen]: What? Are you sure?" [She]: Of course, I'm sure... I just read it to you...." [He] "What's your next street?" [She]: "Nebraska" [He]: Nebraska?" [She (in a clipped voice) ]: "Yes." [He]: *she's done this before. She turned without telling you. Keep it together-you can do this...* "What street are you on right now?" [She] "Nebraska- I just turned onto it" [He] "Which way are you going?" [she]: "Not THAT again- what is wrong with you?" [He (in a clipped voice) ]: "Next street name, please." [She (in a very clipped voice) ]: "********" [He] (finds the newest intersection on map, determines direction, scans map for target address) "Two blocks... turn left. it will be the second street after you leave Nebraska. Left on it, and your house is on that block." [She]: "Thanks- I'm gonna make it on time.... although I don't know why you have to make the simplest little things so difficult. All you had to say was 'left' in the first place..." [He]: [He] "Bye, dear. I love you." {She]" Love you too- bye."
Maybe if I had my own nail in the head, this might have gone smoother-
Quote: If only the creators were half as clever as the unintentioned content of their video, they might have been able to clarify this double critique for us. As it stands, the video doesn't get far past the usual, uninteresting gender stereotyping.
I don't think they missed anything and their double critique is very clear. Not to say all men and all women are this way, but men tend to find logical solutions, even to emotional problems. Women, on the other hand, as a result of the problem, focus on the emotional exponent of the problem and refuse to accept a logical answer for the emotional problem.
Women aren't looking for the logical answer for the problem itself. They are looking to relieve the emotional component of it. So they need to talk about it, get it off their chest so to speak. Men, on the other hand, refuse to acknowledge the emotional feelings of the issue and therefore look for the logical solution for it, and it simply doesn't take a lot of talking to arrive at it.
Men are thinkers. Women are emotional, regardless of the fact that women are most often the better thinkers. They typically solve problems using both logic and emotion. Men, for the most part, choose to think logically and shy away from the emotional aspect of an issue.
I think the video made both of these examples, men/women, very clear.
Plus it's funny as hell if you're a man. I doubt women see much humor in it.
Quote: You seem like a good enough guy. Let me help you out here.
Quote: Yeah ... and I truly have had this one ...... (or very similar)
Her: "Which one of these should I wear?"
Me: "The yellow one. Definitely the yellow one."
Her: "That's kind of what I was thinking."
Me: "Ok, we're going to this place with these people, then we are going to that place with those people. How much longer are you going to take?"
Her: "Just give me 5 minutes." *mwah*
Me: *crack open a beverage, make a phone call, or check dawgtalkers. Consider doing all three.*
Her: "I'm ready! I am so excited to do this!!"
Me: "Ok get in the car. Let's go. (Probably open the door for her when you can, but don't feel too badly about forgetting from time to time. It happens.)
Now doesn't that sound a lot better?
Yep, most fantasies sound pretty good.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Quote: Wow. You read a lot more into that video than I did. I just thought it was humorous..........but now I feel guilty for feeling that way.
No need to feel guilty. I thought it was funny too. Then I started to think about it from the female perspective and realized it was just as funny.
I showed it to my wife last night and she looked at me like "What was that about". She didn't get it at all and did not find it the least bit funny. Funny this is, she is exactly like that.
It's to the point that even when she asks me to do things I ask her how she wants me to do it, because in veritably I don't do it in the same manner she would, so my way is wrong and I did/will screwed everything up.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
This is a real life story that my buddy told me on the way to work:
Her: I'm just so stressed out about planning our wedding. There's just so much to do.
Him: What can I do? Do you want me to call some people and take some of the load off planning?
Her: No! When I come to you with a problem, I don't always want you to fix it. It's more about just sitting down and talking about it. I need sympathy and someone to lean on.
Him: Sorry. I was just trying to help.
Her: If you want to help, just talk with me and try to be more sympathetic.
She goes into their bedroom to watch TV since he's watching a game. Later on:
Her: The cable in the room isn't working.
Him: Wow, that's really terrible, but I know you don't want me to fix your problems. Please, come sit down here and we'll talk about it. Are you going to be okay?
He really paid big time for that snide remark, but man, it made me laugh.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
Her: Hey, I'm on my way home from work, what's for dinner.
Him: I took some chicken out, I was thinking BBQ chicken on the grill, but it doesn't really matter I can do anything.
Her: BBQ chicken is fine with me.
Him: Would rather have something else, I haven't started yet.
Her: No that's fine, whatever.
Guy cooks dinner, she eats half a piece of chicken.
Him: What's wrong is the chicken not good?
Her: No, it's fine, I just didn't want BBQ chicken for dinner, I was in the mood for chicken tacos.
Him: Why didn't you say so?
Her: You seemed to really want BBQ chicken.
Him: I said it didn't matter to me.
Her: Why do I have to make all the decisions, you can make one you too.
Him: I did, and you didn't like it.
Her: I said it was fine.
Guy shakes head and gets up to do dishes.
I get that all the time, especially going out to dinner.
Me: So, do you have any cravings or was there someplace you would prefer to go. Wife: No, anywhere you pick is good. Me: Ok, then let's go to Pagelli's Wife: OK, or we could go to Ted's. Wife: and we haven't ben to Haney's in a while. Me: Ok, we'll go to Haney's Wife: No Pagelli's is fine, I just thought YOU might want somewhere else. Me: I can find something on a menu anywhere. Wife: Ok, Pagelli's will be fine (in a disappointed tone) Me: So you obviously don't want to go to Pagelli's Wife: Oh this is too much hassle let's just go home and have a frozen pizza and movie. Me: *sigh goes home* *** Some time later Wife: This isn't as good as Pagelli's (in a sarcastic tone) Me: *slamming head into wall*
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
Quote: Women aren't looking for the logical answer for the problem itself. They are looking to relieve the emotional component of it. So they need to talk about it, get it off their chest so to speak. Men, on the other hand, refuse to acknowledge the emotional feelings of the issue and therefore look for the logical solution for it, and it simply doesn't take a lot of talking to arrive at it.
I was not challenging the different approaches. I was challenging the notion that every time a woman is "complaining" about something, there is always a simple solution, or a solution at all, that can be arrived at logically, as simple as removing a nail from one's head. This is a man's weakness, and the video only exposes the woman's weakness, so the double critique is not clear. Which is why:
You must be a hoot to be around when buying a new car . Never seen a person so intent on over thinking a simple thing .I am reminded of Percy from the Foghorn Leghorn cartoon .
Quote: Yeah ... and I truly have had this one ...... (or very similar)
Her: "Which one of these should I wear?"
Me: "I don't know. They both look nice."
Her: "But you must have one you prefer between them."
Me: "You look great no matter what you're wearing. You'll be the most beautiful woman in the room in either outfit."
Her: "Yeah, but you must really like one more than the other. Why won't you just tell be which one?"
Me: "OK, I like the yellow one."
Her: "Hmmph. I liked the pink one better. You know, I really don't feel like going now. You think I'm fat and ugly. You don't love me anymore, and don't want to be seen with me." (tears and uncontrolled sobbing)
Me: "Sigh"
I've had the same question from my wife,,, Her: Honey, which of these should I wear?
My answer is almost always,, Dear, you could wear an old potato sack and still be the most beautiful woman in the room
then I walk away very very quickly..
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
She reminds me of most of our federal government.
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