This is easily one of my favorite clips in a long time
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Quote: Earlier in the newscast we gave some names of pilots involved in the Asiana Airlines crash. These names were not accurate despite an NTSB official in Washington confirming them late this morning. We apologize for the error.
“We sincerely regret the error and took immediate action to apologize, both in the newscast where the mistake occurred, as well as on our website and social media sites,” said Tom Raponi, KTVU/KICU Vice President & General Manager. “Nothing is more important to us than having the highest level of accuracy and integrity, and we are reviewing our procedures to ensure this type of error does not happen again.”
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul. - John Muir
Asiana Airlines to sue TV station over fake pilot names report
Asiana said Monday that it will sue a San Francisco TV station that damaged the airline's reputation by using bogus and racially offensive names for four pilots on a plane that crashed earlier this month in San Francisco.
An anchor for KTVU-TV read the names on the air Friday and then apologized after a break. The report was accompanied by a graphic with the phony names listed alongside a photo of the burned-out plane that had crashed at San Francisco International Airport on July 6, killing three and injuring dozens.
Video of the report has spread widely across the Internet since it was broadcast.
The National Transportation Safety Board has also apologized, saying a summer intern erroneously confirmed the names of the flight crew.
Asiana has decided to sue KTVU-TV to "strongly respond to its racially discriminatory report" that disparaged Asians, Asiana spokeswoman Lee Hyomin said. She said the airline will likely file suit in U.S. courts.Asiana decided not to sue the NTSB because it said it was the TV station report, not the U.S. federal agency that damaged the airline's reputation. Lee did not elaborate.
Neither the station nor the NTSB commented on where the names originated.
The four pilots, who underwent questioning by a U.S. and South Korean joint investigation team while in the U.S., returned to South Korea on Saturday. South Korean officials plan to conduct separate interviews with them, South Korea's Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport said Sunday.
I don't know how you can sue the TV station without the NTSB? The NTSB sent and confirmed the names. The TV station should have known better, but I would think they'd be legally protected here.
Quote: I don't know how you can sue the TV station without the NTSB? The NTSB sent and confirmed the names. The TV station should have known better, but I would think they'd be legally protected here.
The airline probably wants to maintain a civil working relationship with the NTSB but they don't care about the TV station.
I don't see how they are protected. They have a duty to verify that the information they broadcast is accurate to the best of their ability... a 12 year old could tell that those names are made up just by reading them once out loud.
Quote: I don't know how you can sue the TV station without the NTSB? The NTSB sent and confirmed the names. The TV station should have known better, but I would think they'd be legally protected here.
The airline probably wants to maintain a civil working relationship with the NTSB but they don't care about the TV station.
I don't see how they are protected. They have a duty to verify that the information they broadcast is accurate to the best of their ability... a 12 year old could tell that those names are made up just by reading them once out loud.
True........but apparently they did verify the names with the NTSB, didn't they? How far up do they need to go?
Quote: I don't know how you can sue the TV station without the NTSB? The NTSB sent and confirmed the names. The TV station should have known better, but I would think they'd be legally protected here.
The airline probably wants to maintain a civil working relationship with the NTSB but they don't care about the TV station.
I don't see how they are protected. They have a duty to verify that the information they broadcast is accurate to the best of their ability... a 12 year old could tell that those names are made up just by reading them once out loud.
True........but apparently they did verify the names with the NTSB, didn't they? How far up do they need to go?
not responding directly to you Arch,, but you heard those names.. I laughed my butt off at them. How, verified or not could anyone actually believe that those were real?
As for the airline suing, look, it's their brand they wish to protect. They probably have billions invested in that brand. I'd want to protect it as best I could also.
Not saying they should take legal action, but geez, people were killed and injured, demonstrating a little sensitivity would be smart at this point..
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
Quote: True........but apparently they did verify the names with the NTSB, didn't they? How far up do they need to go?
I'm guessing at least above the summer intern.
Anyone with a brain knows those names were made up.. I mean, really, am I wrong about that? Did any one here actually think for one second those were real names?
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
Quote: True........but apparently they did verify the names with the NTSB, didn't they? How far up do they need to go?
I'm guessing at least above the summer intern.
Anyone with a brain knows those names were made up.. I mean, really, am I wrong about that? Did any one here actually think for one second those were real names?
No.
But due diligence was done on the part of the tv station. They called the NTSB and verified the names. At what point do you quit verifying? DC seems to think it would be going above the summer intern. I would counter that the tv station didn't know they were talking to a summer intern.
Even if they did know it was a summer intern.......they called the NTSB - they got verification. At what point in time do you stop asking for verification? when you talk to the supervisor? Or the supervisors supervisor? Or should you follow this all the way to the head of the NTSB. If the phone call to the NTSB wasn't good enough, because an intern answered - why are we wasting taxpayer dollars having this intern answer calls?
I don't blame the tv station. this sits entirely on the NTSB in my opinion.
Quote: True........but apparently they did verify the names with the NTSB, didn't they? How far up do they need to go?
I'm guessing at least above the summer intern.
Anyone with a brain knows those names were made up.. I mean, really, am I wrong about that? Did any one here actually think for one second those were real names?
I imagine SNL or some other sketch show demonstrating what would happen if those WERE the real names and the TV station wouldn't believe NTSB:
NTSB: Captain Sum Ting Wong KTVU: You are kidding, right? That's not his name. NTSB: Yes, that is the name. NTSB: Ok, next, co-pilot Wei Tu Lo KTVU: *audible laughing* are you kidding me? cmon, this shouldn't be funny! NTSB: I don't know what your issue is here. These are common Asian names and the names of the pilots that minimized the injuries and deaths in a plane crash. NTSB: Other co-pilot is Ho Lee F KTVU: Now, you're just being ridiculous. Are you really telling me that Ho Lee F is the name of a co-pilot for Captain Sum Ting Wong (mocking asianic pronunciations). NTSB: Yes, indeed I am and I don't appreciate the racial overtones. Also, I wanted to inform you that there was another pilot on-board. He was only on the flight for the jump-seat to get to his plane in SF, but I thought it important to note for full information: Bang Ding Ow. KTVU: *raucaous lauging at this point and phone is hung up*
Then, cut to another news station reporting how that phone recording was released and KTVU is being sued for their obvious racist towards Asians attitude in the wake of this great tragedy.
Quote: DC seems to think it would be going above the summer intern. I would counter that the tv station didn't know they were talking to a summer intern.
And I would counter your counter.. that that is part of the problem. If you were ESPN and you wanted to confirm the status of Trent Richardson's injury for a story, would you call the Browns main number and take the word of the first person you talked to?
Quote: Even if they did know it was a summer intern.......they called the NTSB - they got verification. At what point in time do you stop asking for verification? when you talk to the supervisor? Or the supervisors supervisor?
I'm pretty sure the NTSB has a public affairs or public relations office that is responsible for giving out such information. In fact I would bet that only a handful of people within that group are allowed to give out information. The TV station is responsible for making sure they are talking to one of those people.
Then the person who made the slide and the person who edits the slide are also responsible for reading and editing prior to putting it on television. Are you telling me that they didn't read those slides and realize immediately that something was wrong? No, because it was either never edited or it was just glazed over in a rush to be the first to put it on the air.
By the way, the television station has already admitted the mistakes they made in allowing this to get on the air, the apology is also on youtube.
All things considered, you have a sort of perfect storm here. The prankster at NTSB who takes the call and is actually prepared with an answer, a TV station that didn't do it's due diligence to make sure the kid was authorized to give out the information, then multiple levels of people at the TV station who didn't edit or use any common sense what-so-ever in seeing the prank.. that's what makes it so funny.
Okay. I'm wrong in your opinion. If a station calls a federal agency to verify something, and the federal agency allows an intern to answer the question...........I blame the federal agency.
Quote: Okay. I'm wrong in your opinion. If a station calls a federal agency to verify something, and the federal agency allows an intern to answer the question...........I blame the federal agency.
Let's say you were a chief editor in a newsroom, and two men set off a bomb in a park. You get a report that the suspects names are Poop Butt Fart and Bababooey.
If you made one call to a federal agency and the first person you talked to confirmed that, would you just shrug and run it?
Quote: Okay. I'm wrong in your opinion. If a station calls a federal agency to verify something, and the federal agency allows an intern to answer the question...........I blame the federal agency.
Let's say you were a chief editor in a newsroom, and two men set off a bomb in a park. You get a report that the suspects names are Poop Butt Fart and Bababooey.
If you made one call to a federal agency and the first person you talked to confirmed that, would you just shrug and run it?
In this day? Heck yeah... gotta be the first one with the scoop!! There's no such thing as real journalism anymore - or, at least, not journalistic integrity. Editors don't actually check things and proofread before things go out... people rubber stamp things left and right.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
Quote: Okay. I'm wrong in your opinion. If a station calls a federal agency to verify something, and the federal agency allows an intern to answer the question...........I blame the federal agency.
Let's say you were a chief editor in a newsroom, and two men set off a bomb in a park. You get a report that the suspects names are Poop Butt Fart and Bababooey.
If you made one call to a federal agency and the first person you talked to confirmed that, would you just shrug and run it?
Everyone had a copy of the script, from the director, the producer and assts, the audio guy, the stage director, the camera person(s) and the talent, all have copies of the script that's going to be rolling up the teleprompter. It's difficult to imagine that someone couldn't catch this, so I can only believe they wanted it to go live since they felt they had the cover of the NTSB.
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