Seventeen year old Bubber Codie, of 2944 Jackson Street, is charged with several crimes including attempted murder on a law enforcement officer.
It all started around 5 a.m. Fort Myers Police Officer Darryl Sizemore was patrolling in the area of Grand Avenue, Canal Street and Linhart Avenue. Three robberies recently took place in that neighborhood.
While cruising the streets, Officer Sizemore spotted a young man that matched the description of the suspect.
The suspect then allegedly pointed a gun at the officer and took off on foot. Sizemore followed.
During the chase the suspect turned toward Officer Sizemore, pointed the gun at him and attempted to fire the weapon twice. The teen continued to run while trying to fix the gun's malfunction.
Officer Sizemore pulled out his gun and continued to pursue the suspect. He never fired at the teen because there were children at a nearby bus stop.
The suspect eventually jumped some fences and Sizemore lost sight of him.
Officers set up a perimeter and began conducting a search.
A few minutes later a man approached police and told them his stepson just ran into the house on Jackson Street as if he were being chased.
Officer Sizemore came to the home and positively identified the suspect, Bubber Codie.
Police searched the home and found two guns inside, including the one used on Officer Sizemore. Authorities say it didn't fire because the magazine wasn't put in properly.
Codie is being held at the Lee County Jail. He is officially charged with attempted murder on a law enforcement officer, resisting arrest with violence, robbery and violation of probation.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
In no way do I think shooting police officers is a good thing. However, I had this thought the other day that would fit well into this discussion.
After the FLA-OSU debacle I decided to go see what was happening on and around High Street, here in Columbus, OH. And there were police everywhere!!! Patrolling the streets on foot, bikes, cars, swat vehicles---and it dawned on me.
Police officers don't make me feel safe. I have never been relieved to see a cop---never.
When I see police officers I feel like I need to leave, I feel like I've done something wrong. Is that the effect they are supposed to have.
Think about it. When you are driving down the road and a cop pulls out behind you. How do you feel? Do you feel safer? When you see a cop---do you feel safer?
For this reason I don't like cops. They don't make me feel safe. They make me nervous.
To me they are only around to clean up the mess after the fact.
I can't say that I've ever seen a policeman do anything good for me or anyone I know.
Quote: For this reason I don't like cops. They don't make me feel safe. They make me nervous.
Lots of criminally minded people feel that way. Cops like everyone else consist of good and bad. For the most part they do a good job and it is a tough job they have.
and parents, and magazines, and school teachers, and congressman, and the gov, and the pres.....Hell blame anybody but him. Hey this dude is 17 he knows what hes doing send him away.
When you live in suburbia like a lot of Americans do, the only thing cops do is give out speeding tickets (or at least that's the only time we see them.) It's difficult to trust the police, when it feels like they're out to get you for doing something minor.
Quote: In no way do I think shooting police officers is a good thing. However, I had this thought the other day that would fit well into this discussion.
After the FLA-OSU debacle I decided to go see what was happening on and around High Street, here in Columbus, OH. And there were police everywhere!!! Patrolling the streets on foot, bikes, cars, swat vehicles---and it dawned on me.
Police officers don't make me feel safe. I have never been relieved to see a cop---never.
When I see police officers I feel like I need to leave, I feel like I've done something wrong. Is that the effect they are supposed to have.
Think about it. When you are driving down the road and a cop pulls out behind you. How do you feel? Do you feel safer? When you see a cop---do you feel safer?
For this reason I don't like cops. They don't make me feel safe. They make me nervous.
To me they are only around to clean up the mess after the fact.
I can't say that I've ever seen a policeman do anything good for me or anyone I know.
::rant over::
You're very right. At least in college. I think there's a difference between cops in a college town and cops in a normal city.
Cops in a college town aren't necessarily out there for security purposes. They're out to get you in trouble, bust you for partying and such.
There's a line between "protect and serve" and "police the area and collect underage drinkers." Too often that line is crossed.
Quote: When you live in suburbia like a lot of Americans do, the only thing cops do is give out speeding tickets (or at least that's the only time we see them.) It's difficult to trust the police, when it feels like they're out to get you for doing something minor.
Quote: You know what, Tyler...I grew up in and around places where the police really had nothing to do...and I had similar opinions on them that you do.
But once you live in NYC, you come to realize how welcome a sight they can be.
Agreed, went to NYC a few years ago, was my first visit in probably 20 years.. Police presence in Times Square and such made me feel more at ease in an unfamiliar city of such magnitude. And when my wife wanted to take a "Girls" trip back to NYC last December, I felt more at ease knowing they were going to be staying in Times Square area.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
I didn't read the whole thread, but I'll chip in with my two cents. Respect for authority is something that has to be taught and learned. I never dreamed of raising my hand to my parents, or a teacher, let along my voice. I knew better and I knew what would happen if I did.
Time out meant Dad would take 5 minutes out of his day to warm my butt, not me going into a room or sitting in a chair.
Cruel and unusual punishment meant I picked out the switch.
If it didn't hurt, you acted like it did.
The Board of correction was something Mom kept on a hook in plain view in the kitchen, not a panel who tried to figure out why you did what you did.
Talking about my feelings didn't mean I met with a shrink. It meant I was telling my friends I finally regained feeling in my butt after my Dad wore it out.
The last thing you ever wanted to hear was "Wait till your father gets home". Not "I'm calling the police"
Group therapy meant we all got spanked instead of just one.
A guilt trip meant you had to go the principal's office so they could call your house instead of people telling you what a screw up you were.
When Grandma called you over so she could hug and kiss you, even though you knew you would get lipstick on the side of your face you did it anyway.
Golly gee, a similar thing happened in Toledo about 2 months ago - maybe not quite 2 months - cops pull up next to 2 kids standing on the sidewalk at 3 or 4 in the morning - kids come to the window, cops i.d. themselves, kids run - cops follow......
What happened? One officer dead - the kid he was chasing turned around and shot him.................
Laws - follow them, no problem. Break them? That's when the problems start.....now there is a 16 or 17 yr. old kid sitting in jail, awaiting trial, at which he'll more than likely get life in prison.......if not the death penalty.
His mother/father must not of taught him about playing with guns.. At 17 years old, the parents should have to pay to, somewhere, right? If they are some crack heads or something, they will be exposed and taken care of. 2 birds with one cold stone.
There are 2 problems. First, some parents don't parent. They don't discipline a child, or teach right from wrong. The kid grows up thinking he can do whatever he wants without no consequence.
The other problem is that parents who want to discipline their child can't.
The other day on tv I saw this lady officer give this kid a hockey check into some bushes because he was skateboarding. I gotta admit the video was pretty funny
My family moved to a small town when I was in grade school. Up to that time,we lived on the west side of Dayton. Now,on the west side,cops HAD crimes to fight. They HAD trouble areas. So I felt the cops did a great service. There,they were a true deterant to crime when they were around. I considered them a welcomed sight.
They didn't pull you over just because it was after dark and give you 20 questions about whop you are,where you were going etc... without some type of reason. If you weren't causing trouble,they weren't trying to cause trouble for you.
Once we moved to Tipp City,it was a different matter. And as was stated by an earlier poster,there's good and bad in everything. But as with a lot of small towns,there were far more cops there,than there was actual "crime to fight".
So they had more time to "nit pick" over trivial things. Stop you walking down the street to ask you where you're going for no specific reason. Pull you over for "artificial reasons" just to "check you out". Far more "hassle" than law enforcement IMO
Some of them were worse about it than others. And a couple of them never did it at all. But the few that were REALLY BAD at it,did nothing to instill respect in us as kids that they should "be respected" at all. Just guys with too much time on their hands looking for excuses to roust kids.
I did run around with a pretty rough crowd. But I was lucky enough,or smart enough,maybe a little of both,that if they came up with something stupid,I managed to find a reason to go in another direction.
So I saved myself a lot of hardship.As a kid growing up,given enough leash,you'll make a few stupid mistakes. But luckily,I had a dad who instilled a pretty good set of values in me at home and dicipline was delved out. So my mistakes were very minor ones that basicly went unnoticed for the most part.
But I saw kids who once they were caught at one mistake,the cops in that town rode their asses like a broco at the rodeo. They turned these kids against cops by this. They were actually harrasing the hell out of some of these guys! And these guys weren't criminals. They weren't bank robbers or murderers.
The last week I lived in Tipp City,I was in my 20's. A guy kept bugging me to go to a local bar. I agreed provided we were home before midnight. I told him if you don't want to be home by midnight,YOU'RE driving HOME! He asked why" I told him,"If the cops see my car out after midnight,they'll pull it over."
He really didn't believe me and thought I was paranoid. He stated that I hadn't been in trouble and there was really no reason for them to pull my car over for anything. I explained to him it really wasn't *me per say* but they would want to check things out and see who was with me and that I wasn't getting a DWI (in them days) because he wanted to go to a bar.
Well,we were one block from home at 12:45. He was driving.We got pulled over and he got taken to jail. The set up? The cop asked me if I wanted to move my car out of the street so it didn't have to be towed?
My reply? "No sir. I've had to much to drink to get behind the wheel." At that point,he offered and did park the car for me and allowed me to walk home.
But that's life in a small town. I came through it okay. And I think the cops in that town kind of evened out between the good and the bad for the most part,just like everything else.
But to take for granted that we must "respect authority" without regard for them deserving our respect,I think is short sighted. Because I know and have met cops I respect,and I've met those I don't. It goes on a case by case basis. Just like everything else in life IMO
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Quote: Cops in a college town aren't necessarily out there for security purposes. They're out to get you in trouble, bust you for partying and such.
There's a line between "protect and serve" and "police the area and collect underage drinkers." Too often that line is crossed.
Seeing what happened in th past at OSU, from arson, to major rioting, I'm not surprised in the least to see cops patroling OSU. They have good reason to.
Blame the ACLU.....They started this crap....how....they took religion out of schools....Took away the good rights......because of the kids who did`nt want to pray.....what about the more who did?.....
Whats the effect.....kids don`t fear GOD.....makes it easier not to fear your parents.....Hell why fear the law......The ACLU says......kids have rights...parents are no longer to spank your miss behaving child.....
Now kids are learning...you can`t ....blank with me....cause I have rights....and my parents will get in trouble for correcting me....
So parents become fearful...because they can land up in jail for spanking trhe brat....
If you don`t fear GOD....you don`t fear anything.....And not that you should fear GOD...but you should fear the consequenses of being blanked up.........
Whether you are religious or not.....the days of heaven and hell....right and wrong...and respect your parents are gone.......
My parent beat the tar out of me.....and just look how I ended up.
It just made me more rebellious.
Its way to complicated to really place blame on any particular culprit. But it does come down to a personal level eventually. Everyone, despite where they are from or how they were raised, has to take responsibility for their actions at some point.
I don`t believe in excessive beating...not even close.....but parents need to have the right to teach the kid whose the boss.....
I never spank my girls...and they never have been in big trouble...I talk....but at times with authority.....They also believe in GOD...and we don`t even go to church.....
and for those guys who on this board ...who know my girls...no spanking comments.....(337).......
I think whats my biggest problem with law inforcements, is that they seem to feel theyre above the law, and that bothers me.
For instance, I was driving in Buffalo, New York, on some streets heading towards the Highway, and I was driving through town, and I took a left on green with my blinker no problem, and on the right side of the intersection, a cop sitting at the red light, just took off in my direction. I'm thinkin, Oh shhhh, what did I just do, but instead he stops, and does a U-turn. and it was a pretty straight street, and he drove away, ot in any hurry without lights on. Whether he was heading somewhere (which he didnt seem in a hurry), why does his car reserve him the right to run a red light and pull and illegal turn? If i did that I'd be taking a sobriety test.
Also, the inconsistencies in law enforcement matters make me iffy about it.
In my town, a police chief was "forced into retiring" because of missing drugs in the precinct and through hearsay that he was covering up a drug scandal not only for himself, but for his nephew. Now, if it was any other 2 people, theyd be serving time. But because one was a police chief, the guy retires and everything is covered up and smoothed out. hmmm...sounds fishy to me.
Another gripe. Our security system, now has a fine system set up. If our house alarm goes off, and we arent there to answer the phone to say sorry that was a false alarm, and police have to be dispatched to our house, to make sure nothing has been done, we have to pay a fine. The first "false alarm" is a warning. Are you kidding me? Youre going to give me a warning because someone may have broken into my home? The second time it happens, its a $25 fine. The second time its $50 and so on down the line. I can understand, maybe if they made it a system like insurance companies have with deductibles. But fined, to make sure my house hasn't been robbed? thats Bull, no matter how you slice it.
It's almost like, I'd rather get home, with a message come to the precinct. When we get there, theres some guy in all black holding my TV, because it could save me $150. Thats not right. I mean thats a bit extreme, but, its making a point.
When an officer is following me on the road, I feel nervous too. I feel like I did something wrong. But I get even more annoyed when im doin 70-75 on a highway, and a cop rips by me at 85, and more often than not, its because he can, not because he has somewhere to go. Ive seen them fly by me, and 2 miles down the road, there he is doing speed duty.
I like the service that the Police provides, but I think more often than not their priorities arent right. Its a fine line between protecting and looking for something wrong. You wouldn't bring a drug sniffing dog, to an alarm system call at a local home, why would you pull over a person at night, just to make sure they arent doing something wrong.
Too many inequalities and inefficiencies for me.
"It has to start somewhere It has to start somehow What better place than here? What better time than now?"
With power comes corruption, it's a natural human trait that takes good values, and strong will to keep at bay.
That said, there are bad cops out there, but there are many more good cops. You just don't hear about them because it;s not news worthy to publish a story every time a cop does something good.
You hear from the school when your kid gets in a fight, but you don't hear from them when he help another student pick up their dropped books.
How many traffic stops do you think are made everyday? According to the shows on TV it seems like everyone has a punk that will shoot at, try to run over, or take off from the cops on every traffic stop.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
I think another thing that bothers me. Is there are so many cops that when they pull you over. just jump down your throat and give you attitude that you dont deserve.
I understand they deal with people that are rude and problems. But you dont have to be that way with everyone.
I understand it though, I'm just not a fan.
"It has to start somewhere It has to start somehow What better place than here? What better time than now?"
An assult ? Please....she was maybe 5'3 and the dude was 6 foot 200 pounds
When you are making NO physical threat to someone,and they lay their hands on you,that's assult. Look it up!
I don't care how "big" the kid was. He was on a skateboard and had NO warning the cop was going to push him into the bushes. Sorry man,but this is an assult plain and simple. She should face charges.
What would happen to YOU if you assulted someone in this fashion? Does wearing a badge make that right?
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Yeah, pit, you're right................did you hear the cop say "how many times do I have to tell you? No skateboarding".
Perhaps you would feel better if the cop had simply arrested them, put them in jail over night, etc.........as it was, she got her point across - and what we DON'T know is, how many times had she "played nice" and warned them before?
Cops like everyone else consist of good and bad. For the most part they do a good job and it is a tough job they have.
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