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Cleveland Browns' Josh Gordon insists failed codeine test was not from 'recreational use' By Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer July 22, 2013 at 2:25 PM, updated July 22, 2013 at 6:53 PM CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Browns receiver Josh Gordon, speaking publicly Monday for the first time since his two-game suspension for a failed drug test last month, stressed that he didn't use the codeine recreationally and indicated that he's staying clean. His comments, at a pre-camp interview in Berea, were consistent with his written statement on June 7th -- that he unintentionally ingested codeine that was contained in cough syrup prescribed to him for strep throat in February. In addition to the two-game suspension, he was docked four game checks, which amounts to $148,894. The suspension raised concern in some league circles that perhaps Gordon had gotten caught up in the "Purple Drank'' craze that's become popular among the younger set. Purple Drank is a mixture of codeine-laced cough syrup, hard candy and soda, and is thought to be responsible for some recent NFL suspensions. But Gordon, who might be facing a year-long suspension if he tests positive again, insisted that's not the case with him. "The details were given in my statement in June,'' he said. "It wasn't recreational use, nothing of the sort.'' Gordon, who failed three marijuana tests in college and also violated the NFL's substance abuse policy at least once before the positive codeine test, was surprised by the failed test. "The fact that it happened, it was beyond me,'' he said. "It's one of those things you just really can't control. It was just part of the consequences that came with it and I have to deal with it. I plan to move forward from this point on and I look forward to this upcoming season.'' Despite the suspension, Gordon doesn't feel he has to go back to square one to prove to the Browns he can stay clean and repay them for drafting him with a sketchy background. "I'm still working towards it but that's something that's in the past,'' he said. "It's still going to loom over me for a long time. I still have a long way to go, a lot to prove to the fans here, to the people here. But regarding this, it's just another obstacle in my way of getting there.'' He said he's truly sorry for what happened and owes a lot of amends. "I need to apologize to the team, the Browns fans, the coaching staff here, my family and friends,'' he said. "This hurt a lot of people. They're dealing with it, but I definitely plan to move on from it.'' He's already met with coach Rob Chudzinski and expressed his remorse. Veterans don't have to report until Wednesday, but Gordon arrived early. "Accountability is a big issue,'' Gordon said. "We're definitely planning for the future. I can't really sit back and just think about the past. We're really looking forward to what we can do from here on out.'' Chudzinski said Monday that he's obviously disappointed about the situation. "It's important that Josh understands what my expectations are,'' he said. "I've talked to him about that. I expect him to work and do everything he can to be the very best player he can be.'' He said he hasn't sat down with members of the front office, but has been told that they're in his corner. "That's good to know,'' he said. "I'm still trying to regain their trust, just to prove to them they can count on me.'' And that's not just because it's a new regime that didn't draft him and has no allegiance. "My actions will speak out here on the field, and that's what I came here to do, regardless of who's the coach or who's working here,'' he said. "I'm still going to be in Cleveland and I've still got to show up and do my job.'' Quarterback Brandon Weeden also had a sit-down with Gordon, his No. 1 deep threat. "He knows (we need him to come back strong),'' said Weeden said. "He's a mature guy. He knows he made a mistake. But I’m not going to beat a dead horse. I just told him this team needs him and pretty much left it at that. He’ll be excited come Week Three. I don’t mean to put words in his mouth, but he’ll learn from his mistake.” Weeden is confident the other receivers will step up in Gordon's absence. Last season, he finished eighth in the NFL with 16.1 yard per catch and averaged 46 yards on his five TD catches. "Good teams find a way,'' said Weeden. "I’m confident in the guys we have and when Josh comes back in Week Three, we’ll welcome him back and he’ll continue to make us a better football team.” Gordon said he won't let the suspension deter him from his goal of being a No. 1 receiver this year. "It's what I've worked hard for,'' he said. "I didn't come here to be anything less than that. I don't think anybody strives to be a two or three. The fact that it happened, it's what I worked for, so I (still) expect that.'' Still, he's more interested in team goals when he returns. "I'm really looking forward to when I can come back and contribute to the team,'' he said. "Until then, I'll be out here every day, working out with the team in training camp, helping motivate these guys to get ready for the season. When I come back, it's not personal goals or stats or anything like that -- I want wins for our team. That's the most important thing.'' Gordon also apologized to Brownsfans for supporting Lebron James and the Miami Heat and celebrating their NBA Championship with them in South Beach, Fla. He rankled some by tweeting that he'd be on the Heat's victory float. "The time that it took place, I wasn't really thinking about it at all,'' he said. "I wasn't sure of the severity of it. But I definitely, definitely want to apologize for that. It's such a huge deal out here. The fans of Cleveland definitely take their sports seriously. That was a blank mind moment at that point.'' He said he doesn't necessarily reget it, but wishes he would've expressed it differently "in a less way to clash with the people who didn't agree with it.'' He also disagreed with former Browns offensive tackle LeCharles Bentley, who rebuked him on twitter for not having his priorities straight. "My priorities are definitely in order,'' said Gordon. "I've still got a job to come out here and do every day. I've got to be accountable. I have to provide for me and my family, so I definitely have my priorities straight.'' To reach this Plain Dealer reporter: mcabot@plaind.com, 216-999-4670 On Twitter: @marykaycabot web page
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Personally I don't want to read/hear Josh say any more of these things. If he messes up one more time (whether it is his "fault" or not), then he's most likely gone. So it's put up or shut up time ... and only time will tell.
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Gordon, who failed three marijuana tests in college and also violated the NFL's substance abuse policy at least once before the positive codeine test, was surprised by the failed test.
He's failed 4 drug tests in a couple of years and lied about it before. Sorry, but I don't believe him.
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I'm all about giving guys (especially young guys) a 2nd, 3rd or even 4th chance and all. And I want to believe him when he says it was accident. But I guess I don't.
At first I took it at face value,,, thought, hey, that can happen. give the guy a break. but when I realized how many tests he's failed, geez, it's hard to believe him.
His actions going forward will determine my thoughts. Anything he says will mean little to nothing to me.
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A couple of weeks ago, Weeden spent a few days building chemistry and working out with Browns receivers Greg Little and Josh Cooper in Oklahoma.
“We got three really hard days of work in,” Weeden said. “I threw until I couldn’t throw anymore, and [Little] ran until he couldn’t run anymore.”
would believe him more if he did this too.
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I can second that kind of honest effort and drill and practice. As a fan, I want to believe him, and I wish him success on the field. But this makes that harder, and he seems to be piling up more of the same. How many more chances dare we take? 
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I pretty much agree with what's been said so far on this thread, but I also like the fact that people are more notoriously holding his feet to the fire, and that he's aware of it.
If he ends up failing another drug test, he'll have no excuses.
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Oh what the heck. I'll take it at face value. Seeing as how it's the Browns we're talking about and we've had our share of disappointments in the past what's one more? I'll root for Gordon until the day either he or someone else decides he's not on the team any more. Buy the ticket, take the ride.
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What am I missing here? If it was a Rx, get your doctor to say so....is that so hard?
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doesn't matter if it was or wasn't. It's still a violation. The public perception doesn't really matter IMO.
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doesn't matter if it was or wasn't. It's still a violation. The public perception doesn't really matter IMO.
exactly. and, even on a Rx, he's still an idiot for not checking with the NFL on it (there's a hotline, every team has people to help, et cetera)
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What am I missing here? If it was a Rx, get your doctor to say so....is that so hard?
Not really trying to defend him here but, I would think that even a prescription could not be verified or disputed by a doctor... being a part of medical history and thus treated confidential.
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If he has nothing to hide, then he shouldn't be worried... right?
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I don't think this is confirmed as FACT. Its an assumption from Mary Kay. I actually think its a correct assumption as he was not expecting to be in the NFL n tested right away as his entrance in the NFL was pretty quick. I'm sure he was smoking it up while he put himself up for the supplement draft.
Also if he stays clean for the rest of this year and NEXT...I think he gets knocked down to DECOM 3 - and back to the 4-6 game suspension status if caught again. Getting caught though is not good at all and could ruin his career. Shame...the kid is so talented. I hope he has his head on straight. It all depends what he wants MORE.
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We've been over this before... Gordon came into the league in Stage 1 of the Substance Abuse policy due to his failed drug tests at (1) Baylor and (2) Utah. That's 3 already. Vers is right about the number of failed drug tests and dishonesty about Utah results, but this is the first time (as evidenced by the fact that it is his first suspension and it is only two games) that he has tested positive since being drafted.
It was a completely avoidable situation, and I think losing out on $150k for a player in a rookie 2nd-round contract... that should be enough of a message to make sure he stays vigilant to not do something again... even if by accident.
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You can't really tell if someone is lying through print. Would be nice to see his face.
Gordon seems like a supremely talented wr and I am very happy to have him around. I hope he is never suspended again.
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I know - I was a big proponent on the he came in with Strike 1 due to his College suspension via drugs (marijuana) - but I don't think its a FACT just like I don't think its a fact he tested positive for drugs once before as Mary Kay reported it as fact. I can believe it...just like I can believe he came in with strike one due to the Houston/UTAH stuff.
All I know is he was a pot smoker who didn't care if he was caught.
All I know is that Pot is not addicting like cigarettes n Alcohol and most can stop whenever they want to...if they want to. I'm sort of happy at this point that his test did not come up positive from Marijuana...of course we don't really know as I think that is not reported by the NFL. ???
Got to hope he stays clean that's all. His age if tested everyday...most on this board would have been suspended for life within a few months... 
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Like most, I hope what he is saying matches reality.
If I can point to any bright spot, I like the fact that he showed up in camp before he was required to. A good step in starting to rebuild that trust and his reputation.
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doesn't matter if it was or wasn't. It's still a violation. The public perception doesn't really matter IMO.
It doesn't change anything towards the suspension, but in this case public perception and the way his employers feel towards him is important.
And for all we know, maybe he has done this with the team.
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You can't really tell if someone is lying through print. Would be nice to see his face.
Gordon seems like a supremely talented wr and I am very happy to have him around. I hope he is never suspended again.
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What am I missing here? If it was a Rx, get your doctor to say so....is that so hard?
Apparently the NFL doesn't care. You, as a player are supposed to know what is and isn't in the meds you are taking and what banned substance it might include.
I'm certain the NFL provides a list of banned substances. So they can provide that to doctors to show them what the cannot take.
I have to believe that there are exceptions, but the heck if I know what the are.
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Wait.... if Gordon ingested codeine unintentionally, why is he apologizing for it? Take out that one sentence and the rest of the article reads like a confession. This is typical behavior of inexperienced liars. He did something wrong, but is too much of a coward to admit it, so he denies it. Yet he still feels bad about what he actually did, so he apologizes to people to ease his conscience. Childish behavior. If you're going to lie, at least be convincing about it.
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In addition to the two-game suspension, he was docked four game checks, which amounts to $148,894.
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I want to believe Gordon but I'm to the point where he has to "show me" !
One would think a penalty such as this would smack Gordon right between the eyes and wake him up as to how close he is to screwing up his future in football.
Might be a smart move by the Browns to contact Cris Carter to see if he would be willing to have a sit down with the young man. Cris was in similar situation early in his NFL career and instead of self-destructing...he turned his NFL career into a Hall of Fame induction.
Gordon can remove all doubts by simply showing everyone, via his conduct on and off the field.
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Well obviously if he said it wasn't for recreational use, it must be true.
I remember reading an article last year, before even the Haden stuff came out, that these guys can say whatever they want about the positive test results, because the league doesn't divulge that information to the public.
If you test positive for an illegal drug like marijuana, cocaine, you can just tell the media it's adderall or codeine. That takes away part of the wave of negativity.
I'm not saying that's what they did, I just think it's a tad bit convenient. I also find it weird that in both cases, aren't you allowed to use both Adderall and codeine with a prescription? Considering how important a game check is (since you only get 16 all year) wouldn't you make sure you went through the proper procedure to make sure you were clear of any chance of getting in trouble? I'm not 100% sure if that's how it works, but it just seems fishy.
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I don't know whether to believe him or not. We've heard the same scenario one too many times before by one too many pro athletes. I work in the pharmaceutical industry and we get random drug tests a few times per year. We all KNOW what they test for; what we could test dirty for. In my four years working there I know of no one who's tested dirty. With that being said, you'd think Gordon would be smart enough to know he can't use codeine.... you know? My final thought: Whatever! 
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Personally I don't want to read/hear Josh say any more of these things. If he mÜsses up one more time (whether it is his "fault" or not), then he's most likely gone. So it's put up or shut up time ... and only time will tell.
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If he messes up again, he is gone. One year suspension from NFL according to the great Mary Kay. His recent interview, he did not seem AT ALL sorry or anything when the media was drilling him about the violation and about the Miami/partying ordeal. His body language didn't seem sorry at all either but in any case, the next move, be it good or bad, is on him.
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Wait.... if Gordon ingested codeine unintentionally, why is he apologizing for it? Take out that one sentence and the rest of the article reads like a confession.
If he did not intend to consume a banned substance then what he is apologizing for is not checking out and clearing the prescription before taking it. It it was honestly unintentional, there is the mistake.
I was prescribed a similar cough syrup back in February. Of course I had no reason to concern myself with the legality of taking it, but I know when I got it I couldn't wait to take a swig. Not for the codeine buzz, but for relief from the cough that had become intolerable.
Know that I'm not backing up Gordon with that statement. I'm only saying that if he honestly didn't intend to take a banned substance then he's apologizing for not following up with the team, or NFL, before taking it. I'll bet from this time on, and likely all players do this, he'll check the validity of any and every prescribed medication going forth.
Of course, he should have known that already. I'm sure the NFL and/or teams explain that to every rookie upon entering the league.
That's what he should have done. Coughed a little longer until he got clearance.
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You can't really tell if someone is lying through print. Would be nice to see his face.
Gordon seems like a supremely talented wr and I am very happy to have him around. I hope he is never suspended again.
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I couldn't tell if he was lying or not sadly. Hes giving sort of robotic prethought answers. My suspicion is he is being honest but hes my favorite player on the team 
I wish the culture of sports had more team loyalty and player retention. With a place like cleveland it seems like dudes are going to wait for the chance to bolt. I really wish brady quinn had worked out. The mindset of fans and teammates seems very different to me, who really cares who you play for? Paycheck and winning are the main factors and I dont blame them. I dokt see a way around that, have things always been this way older folks?
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My opinion of his interview is he is not remorseful in the least. Just the gist I got.
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I don't think this is confirmed as FACT. Its an assumption from Mary Kay. I actually think its a correct assumption as he was not expecting to be in the NFL n tested right away as his entrance in the NFL was pretty quick. I'm sure he was smoking it up while he put himself up for the supplement draft.
Are you really sure?
Or are you just making things up in your head and deciding they're true?
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You guys are being really really hard on a 20 something year old kid.
2 months ago I had bronchitis, my doctor gave me a prescription for this exact cough medicine. I took it. I felt better.
Assuming he really had strep throat (which I get once a year due to having a bad case of mono that lowered my immune system's resistance to throat infections when I was younger) it's truly painful. You have a bad fever and aren't really thinking straight. If your doctor tells you to take something you'd probably take it.
I know I know, "past history" means he should know better, but his other violations (except 1 that is a mystery) were all for marijuana. Something he knew he was doing bad, it has no effect on him paying more attention to prescription drugs.
Now he knows and hopefully is being honest when he says he'll avoid doing it again in the future, but expecting him to know better the first time just seems way too harsh. Honestly just sounds like bad luck for Gordon.
Now, if he's caught again, that's on him and he'd probably be cut as a result (or at least docked a ton of money).
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You guys are being really really hard on a 20 something year old kid.
2 months ago I had bronchitis, my doctor gave me a prescription for this exact cough medicine. I took it. I felt better.
Assuming he really had strep throat (which I get once a year due to having a bad case of mono that lowered my immune system's resistance to throat infections when I was younger) it's truly painful. You have a bad fever and aren't really thinking straight. If your doctor tells you to take something you'd probably take it.
I know I know, "past history" means he should know better, but his other violations (except 1 that is a mystery) were all for marijuana. Something he knew he was doing bad, it has no effect on him paying more attention to prescription drugs.
Now he knows and hopefully is being honest when he says he'll avoid doing it again in the future, but expecting him to know better the first time just seems way too harsh. Honestly just sounds like bad luck for Gordon.
Now, if he's caught again, that's on him and he'd probably be cut as a result (or at least docked a ton of money).
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1. You don't know that it was actually codeine. That's just what he told you it was. (read my prior post, the NFL cannot divulge what he tested positive for)
2. I don't care if you're sick or not, you go through the proper channels to make sure you can take that medicine. You're in the NFL. There is a very long and confusing list of substances that you cannot consume. Some require a prescription. You need to present that to the league so you are OK to take it. He didn't do that from what I understand, if that's even what he tested positive for.
Rookie or not, you have to know better. He cost himself 2 game checks, and he set his team back before they even stepped on the field.
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You guys are being really really hard on a 20 something year old kid.
2 months ago I had bronchitis, my doctor gave me a prescription for this exact cough medicine. I took it. I felt better.
Assuming he really had strep throat (which I get once a year due to having a bad case of mono that lowered my immune system's resistance to throat infections when I was younger) it's truly painful. You have a bad fever and aren't really thinking straight. If your doctor tells you to take something you'd probably take it.
I know I know, "past history" means he should know better, but his other violations (except 1 that is a mystery) were all for marijuana. Something he knew he was doing bad, it has no effect on him paying more attention to prescription drugs.
Now he knows and hopefully is being honest when he says he'll avoid doing it again in the future, but expecting him to know better the first time just seems way too harsh. Honestly just sounds like bad luck for Gordon.
Now, if he's caught again, that's on him and he'd probably be cut as a result (or at least docked a ton of money).
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1. You don't know that it was actually codeine. That's just what he told you it was. (read my prior post, the NFL cannot divulge what he tested positive for)
2. I don't care if you're sick or not, you go through the proper channels to make sure you can take that medicine. You're in the NFL. There is a very long and confusing list of substances that you cannot consume. Some require a prescription. You need to present that to the league so you are OK to take it. He didn't do that from what I understand, if that's even what he tested positive for.
Rookie or not, you have to know better. He cost himself 2 game checks, and he set his team back before they even stepped on the field.
1. Good point on not knowing if it's truly codeine or not, but the fact that it was only a 2 game suspension vs 4 means the NFL at least believed it was an honest mistake, whatever it was.
2. Not disputing he messed up. He's a 22 year old kid in pain and he drank something his doctor gave him. He made a mistake. He's being punished. I'm not saying posts like yours are wrong. He SHOULD be held accountable. I was more referring to the people saying they don't trust him and he's a bad guy or whatever language they chose to use. I prefer to believe him and hope for the best, because I could see this happening to me in his shoes very easily
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You guys are being really really hard on a 20 something year old kid.
2 months ago I had bronchitis, my doctor gave me a prescription for this exact cough medicine. I took it. I felt better.
Assuming he really had strep throat (which I get once a year due to having a bad case of mono that lowered my immune system's resistance to throat infections when I was younger) it's truly painful. You have a bad fever and aren't really thinking straight. If your doctor tells you to take something you'd probably take it.
I know I know, "past history" means he should know better, but his other violations (except 1 that is a mystery) were all for marijuana. Something he knew he was doing bad, it has no effect on him paying more attention to prescription drugs.
Now he knows and hopefully is being honest when he says he'll avoid doing it again in the future, but expecting him to know better the first time just seems way too harsh. Honestly just sounds like bad luck for Gordon.
Now, if he's caught again, that's on him and he'd probably be cut as a result (or at least docked a ton of money).
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1. You don't know that it was actually codeine. That's just what he told you it was. (read my prior post, the NFL cannot divulge what he tested positive for)
2. I don't care if you're sick or not, you go through the proper channels to make sure you can take that medicine. You're in the NFL. There is a very long and confusing list of substances that you cannot consume. Some require a prescription. You need to present that to the league so you are OK to take it. He didn't do that from what I understand, if that's even what he tested positive for.
Rookie or not, you have to know better. He cost himself 2 game checks, and he set his team back before they even stepped on the field.
1. Good point on not knowing if it's truly codeine or not, but the fact that it was only a 2 game suspension vs 4 means the NFL at least believed it was an honest mistake, whatever it was.
2. Not disputing he messed up. He's a 22 year old kid in pain and he drank something his doctor gave him. He made a mistake. He's being punished. I'm not saying posts like yours are wrong. He SHOULD be held accountable. I was more referring to the people saying they don't trust him and he's a bad guy or whatever language they chose to use. I prefer to believe him and hope for the best, because I could see this happening to me in his shoes very easily
I see that differently. I don't think that was an honest mistake. He was here last year for Joe Haden's debacle.
Everyone should have learned from that. He didn't. He's a bonehead. He's a tremendous talent, but he's a bonehead. If you have a prescription, present it to the league.
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Reminds me of when I was a kid. I used to blame everything on anyone else my mother would allow me to get away with.
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1. Good point on not knowing if it's truly codeine or not, but the fact that it was only a 2 game suspension vs 4 means the NFL at least believed it was an honest mistake, whatever it was.
This is untrue.
Read the policy.
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I'm really glad we didn't draft honeybadger.
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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