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Jerry Jones: Two NFL teams could move to Los Angeles
By Dan Hanzus
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Published: July 24, 2013 at 10:58 p.m.
Updated: July 25, 2013 at 10:33 a.m.
Jerry Jones let some intrigue into the room Saturday when he told the assembled media at Dallas Cowboys training camp in Oxnard, Calif., that the prospect of an NFL team in Los Angeles is "closer than ever."
On Wednesday, Jones -- a California native, for the record -- expanded on his thoughts during an interview with NFL Network.
"I feel more imminent about a team being in here, that it's more imminent than any time since we haven't had a team in Los Angeles," Jones said. "And yes, this market is a huge market, it's a little bit of a black eye for all of us to have had this many years and not had an NFL team in Los Angeles.
"The owners don't mess much up ... but we haven't gotten this one right. There's people, there's locations, there are people that are interested, a lot of people that can help us put this thing together. And as it turns out that we have at least two teams ... that could move to this area."
Jones was asked where a prospective team (or two!) would come from.
"There won't be any expansion," he said. "So it will be teams that move."
And now we begin the process of elimination when viewing the NFL's future through Jerrah's Aviators. Jones has been an NFL owner for 25 years, so it's safe to say he's plugged into the inner workings of the NFL machine.
While his word shouldn't be taken as gospel, it's certainly noteworthy ... especially for you, San Diego Chargers fans.
Ok,, I'm waiting now,, Someone is going to say that because of Pilot Flying J troubles, the Browns will be sold and the new owner will move them to LA.
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Jacksonville, San Diego, maybe Minnesota (not sure if they settled their stadium issue with the politicians there). The Rams might be a candidate too - I think I read that they want some stadium renovations that the city is balking at.
Not sure why Jones thinks there's enough interest in LA for two teams. They have the population, but do they have the "fever" for pro football?
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I think if the Raiders could get a good deal they would move as well. There was just an article saying they wanted a new stadium a few days ago. web page While there is a new stadium in need of a team in LA.
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I think if the Raiders could get a good deal they would move as well. There was just an article saying they wanted a new stadium a few days ago.
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While there is a new stadium in need of a team in LA.
Yeah I read that article.. Think it was on NFL.com Not sure.
Anyway, teams I think are candidates are Jax, SD. those are about it. St. Louis won't let the Rams get away again and I do think they settled something with the Vikes so those really are the only two teams I see making a move.
I don't think SD should move,, But Jax should never have been there in the first place.
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ok... so we move the Rams and the Raiders to LA.
How could this not work?
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ok... so we move the Rams and the Raiders to LA.
How could this not work?
the Rams just lost their bid to have their stadium redone, so I'd say it's pretty likely for them.
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Oakland Raiders Pursuing New Stadium
The Oakland Raiders haven't had much to cheer about in quite some time. While the team advanced to the Super Bowl against Tampa Bay in 2002, a crushing defeat was all that awaited them. More than a decade later, the Raiders are looking to return to prominence. With that in mind, the team is now pursuing a new stadium to reenergize the franchise and its fan base.
The Bay Area has seen more than its fair share of new stadiums over the past dozen years. The San Francisco Giants' AT&T Park led the way, opening in 2000. Since then, the Stanford Cardinal opened a new football stadium in 2006, and the Cal Bears invested considerably in a major stadium upgrade. The San Francisco 49ers are on their way to a new stadium in Santa Clara, slated to open in 2014, and the San Jose Earthquakes are building a new stadium for their 2014 season.
The Raiders completed a study to determine the feasibility of a new stadium somewhere near their current facility, the O.co Coliseum, near the Oakland International Airport. The study found the demand in Oakland to be for a 56,500-seat stadium. If built, such a stadium would be the smallest in the NFL and cost around $800 million. The Raiders franchise does not have that much money available, and financing the stadium would be three-fold in nature. The Raiders have proposed contributing $300 million, while the NFL stadium loan program could provide $200 million. The Raiders are hoping the additional $300 million required could be provided by public funds or through additional hotel and rental car taxes.
The Golden State Warriors, Oakland Athletics, and Raiders play at the same sports facility in Oakland, but all are in danger of leaving. The Warriors are looking to build a new basketball arena in San Francisco by 2017, while the A's are exploring the possibility of moving to San Jose. The Raiders' lease expires after the upcoming season. They have also explored the possibility of leaving Oakland and pursuing proposals for a 75,000-seat stadium in Los Angeles.
The City of Oakland has an ambitious plan to develop 750 acres surrounding the current stadium complex into an entertainment and sports center along with a biotech campus. However, in order for that plan to succeed, Oakland needs more than just a football team as a tenant. Since football plays only 10 home games a year, the area would be less successful than with a franchise that plays considerably more home dates in tow.
Oakland resident and sports fan Jamie Hernandez expressed some concern about the project, saying, "I love the Raiders, A's, and Warriors. I would be ecstatic if any or all of my teams got a new stadium in Oakland, but for a city like ours, to put up a good chunk of the money seems like a bad proposition. Oakland needs to use its public funds for its people rather than its sports teams. While I'll be sad if my teams leave, the city can't put itself in more financial danger than it already is."
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I think the Cowboys and the Texans would do nicely.
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Jacksonville, San Diego, maybe Minnesota (not sure if they settled their stadium issue with the politicians there). The Rams might be a candidate too - I think I read that they want some stadium renovations that the city is balking at.
Not sure why Jones thinks there's enough interest in LA for two teams. They have the population, but do they have the "fever" for pro football?
I agree about the interest, and when I read the article I didn't take it to mean that two teams would be moving. I read it that there are 2 teams ready and willing to move.
I think the writer of the article kind of jumped the gun on that conclusion.
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Living in L.A. I expect that there will never be a team here. This city just gets used as leverage for teams to get the deals they actually want.
But if two teams were to move it would most likely be the Chargers and the Rams.
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Living in L.A. I expect that there will never be a team here. This city just gets used as leverage for teams to get the deals they actually want.
But if two teams were to move it would most likely be the Chargers and the Rams.
I think both of those teams are primed for the move.
It would be sort of fitting if the Rams made it full circle.
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AND a team will be moving to London too (according to the NFL). Where are they going to get three teams for these moves?
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I agree about the interest, and when I read the article I didn't take it to mean that two teams would be moving. I read it that there are 2 teams ready and willing to move.
Yea, that's how I read it too. One spot, two candidates.
I can honestly say that I don't really care if LA gets a team or not. I don't think they deserve one. They have had something like 4 or 5 different professional football teams, all left. The area doesn't really support UCLA or USC football all that well (interest in USC did go up when they were really good), Cal State Fullerton and Long Beach State both abandoned their football programs because they weren't making any money.... the politics of the city suck, they have had multiple chances to get a team but could never get a stadium deal right...
I have very little sympathy for the fact that LA doesn't have pro football...
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AND a team will be moving to London too (according to the NFL). Where are they going to get three teams for these moves?
might as well add Toronto to that list...
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Living in L.A. I expect that there will never be a team here. This city just gets used as leverage for teams to get the deals they actually want.
But if two teams were to move it would most likely be the Chargers and the Rams.
I think both of those teams are primed for the move.
It would be sort of fitting if the Rams made it full circle.
Wouldn't full circle for the Rams be a return to Cleveland?
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I think Minnesota is out of the running to move. I think tax payers just approved a new stadium.
My top candidates are Oakland, Jacksonville, and St. Louis.
- Jacksonville because I think the market is too small to sustain and it has many transients having little ties to the team.
- St.Louis because they are having some major issues with the city and it's lease. And they've been to LA before.
- Oakland because, well because, they're Oakland. They've also spent some time in LA. I also would wonder over the long term what the NorCal market is like with these two teams. How much more do the 49ers have loyalty share over Raiders...or less maybe? I dunno.
One thing people have to realize with the Browns is that it's fan base does extend beyond NE Ohio into cities like Toledo, Columbus, even SE Ohio in many places. People who haven't grown up in NE Ohio but latch onto a team simply because of proximity, family members, etc. With two teams in a state thats population is 7th in the entire nation, are are quite a few fans. National pundits can claim Cleveland is a small market for sports, but I don't think they look at the larger picture. The NFL would be stupid allow this team to leave again.
I'm not saying we're the largest, or even close to the top. But significantly large enough to not warrant a concern at the time. We also just committed to stadium renovations as well. I think that says alot about long term viewing.
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Living in L.A. I expect that there will never be a team here. This city just gets used as leverage for teams to get the deals they actually want.
But if two teams were to move it would most likely be the Chargers and the Rams.
This is what I think, too.
They long ago played the "even Cleveland can move if we don't get a new stadium card", so now the backup trump card is L.A. being an empty market. Even thought the city has repeatedly shown that they will not support a team, they are the evil spectre used to leverage cities into approving stadiums and such. Now, Jerry comes out and says that TWO teams could move, well.... that just doubled the pressure. Even if a city thought that they were safe because they felt another team was more likely to move, now they have to wonder if they still might as well.
In thinking that line through, I could see it as a set up where one team IS moving, but they preserve their trump card by planting the notion that the city is large enough to support two teams (even though the populace has shown to be unable to support even one). Thus, even if other cities know that someone is moving, they still have to respect the possibility that they might lose out, too..
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AND a team will be moving to London too (according to the NFL). Where are they going to get three teams for these moves?
The Jaguars, Chargers, Rams, and Raiders are all candidates to move. The Jaguars are always the team rumored to go to London with the other three always in the L.A.
The Bills will eventually move to Toronto. I also wouldn't be shocked if the Buccaneers and/or Dolphins move at some point.
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ok... so we move the Rams and the Raiders to LA.
How could this not work?
the Rams just lost their bid to have their stadium redone, so I'd say it's pretty likely for them.
How ridiculous to LA, to St. Louis, then BACK to LA?
Why does LA even need a team, they have consistently proven they can't keep one!
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ok... so we move the Rams and the Raiders to LA.
How could this not work?
the Rams just lost their bid to have their stadium redone, so I'd say it's pretty likely for them.
How ridiculous to LA, to St. Louis, then BACK to LA?
Why does LA even need a team, they have consistently proven they can't keep one!
#2 television market in the nation. If nothing else, it is local TV revenue, which counts as Shared Revenue under the CBA... TV contracts for two teams in LA makes the league a lot richer.
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ok... so we move the Rams and the Raiders to LA.
How could this not work?
the Rams just lost their bid to have their stadium redone, so I'd say it's pretty likely for them.
How ridiculous to LA, to St. Louis, then BACK to LA?
Why does LA even need a team, they have consistently proven they can't keep one!
Ok, someone help me here, didn't the Rams play in cleveland first, then move to Chicago, then St. Louis then LA then back to St. Louis?
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If it was me I'd support the Raiders moving to LA and the Jaguars moving to London. Keep the Chargers and Rams where they are.
O.co Coliseum is a dump and the 49ers are so close to Oakland I think it may be a good thing to break those two apart. Add in Al Davis passing away and if any market had to move to LA I think Oakland would make the most sense.
And the Jaguars to London would make great sense and I think a NFL team in Europe would do phenomenally well. People would come from far and wide to watch...they'd have no problem selling that place out every week. Jacksonville has proven that they don't have the ability to support that franchise and tarps on seats just looks bad for the NFL. Let them concentrate on the Gators and the Tampa Bay Bucs.
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I can't support moving a team from one of the best fanbases in the country. I'd much rather they move the Chargers than the Raiders.
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Most sensible plan I've heard.
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L.A. couldn't keep the Raiders because Al Davis was nutty.
L.A. (Anaheim/Orange County/Not L.A.) couldn't keep the Rams because Georgia Frontiere was nutty.
The fan base is fine and sustains two major college football teams (USC, UCLA), two hockey teams (Kings, Ducks), two baseball teams (Dodgers, Angels), and two basketball teams (Lakers, Clippers).
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Personally, I don't want to see a team in London,, at all.
For my money, the least supported team in the league is the jags,, they should be the obvious choice for LA,,
Raiders need to stay in Oakland, that's their identity and they have an extremely loyal fanbase. those fans don't deserve another move. Just like they didn't deserve the last one. And Oh Brother do they ever need a new stadium,,
St. Louis doesn't really need a new stadium,, It's not that much older than ours. In fact, they just moved into it in 1995 so it's 4 years older than ours.
I thought Minnesota had a new deal but I've since been told that isn't in place yet so I guess that makes them a candidate for LA as well. Although I don't like it because I like them with Chicago, Green Bay and Detroit. Both as a conference and geographically. It just fits like Cleveland, Cinci, Pittsburgh and Baltimore do.
Both conferences have similar weather and for what ever reason, I just like that. No logic to it, I just do.
So for me, it's the Jags that need to move. Florida doesn't need 3 teams. They never did and they can't support them. Jacksonville hasn't really supported that team for how long now. I mean when you have to cover seats with cloth in order to give the illusion that there aren't seats there so it doesn't look so empty, then you know you have a problem.
I'm not sure any other team in the league has that problem.. I don't watch crowd levels in other cities so I could be wrong.
So back to the topic,, The Jags need to move to something other than where they are. So for me, it's the jags to LA.
Back to London. that's a logistical nightmare. They had it right by having NFL Europe (or whatever it was called). that was, IMO, the right way to have two leagues and then have a world bowl. But that didn't work.
Anyway, I just look at the nightmare it would create.
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L.A. couldn't keep the Raiders because Al Davis was nutty.
L.A. (Anaheim/Orange County/Not L.A.) couldn't keep the Rams because Georgia Frontiere was nutty.
The fan base is fine and sustains two major college football teams (USC, UCLA), two hockey teams (Kings, Ducks), two baseball teams (Dodgers, Angels), and two basketball teams (Lakers, Clippers).
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I don't think you can blame the LA fans for the Rams and Raiders. That was mostly on the owners. If they got a stable owner and a new stadium, that team would be there forever.
And yes, the NFL is missing th #2 TV market in the nation in their numbers. That's HUGE.
IMO, there's only one team I'd be okay with moving and it's the Jags. They can't sell out, it's not a football town, no tradition, a small TV market and nobody really seems to care about them.
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I mostly read that as a dig against Charger fans, which is deserved.
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I mostly read that as a dig against Charger fans, which is deserved.
If I was a Charger fan I would definitely go to the games, but I cannot blame Charger fans for not wanting to go to the dump that is Qualcomm Stadium.
Also, a lot of Charger fans go to the games and just don't buy tickets. From my experience a lot of their fans just go to the parking lot and tailgate.
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The Bills will eventually move to Toronto.
It would certainly make huge sense. I don't know the % of fans that are Canadian but it is very large. Toronto would support an NFL franchise, but would need a new stadium to do so. Additionally, Toronto has a CFL franchise and it is key to the "health" of the CFL. Thus there are political ramifications to deal with.
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Ok, someone help me here, didn't the Rams play in cleveland first, then move to Chicago, then St. Louis then LA then back to St. Louis?
Rams went from Cleveland to LA in 1946 and then St. Louis in 1995.
The Cardinals started in Chicago, then went to St. Louis in 1960, and Phoenix in 1988.
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The Jaguars are always the team rumored to go to London with the other three always in the L.A.
The Bills will eventually move to Toronto. I also wouldn't be shocked if the Buccaneers and/or Dolphins move at some point.
There is no way they move the Jaguars, then move the Bucs AND the Dolphins and leave the whole state of Florida without a paid football team (well other than the Gators)... 
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Jaguars to LA.
Raiders to LA.
Bills to Toronto.
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Jaguars to LA.
Raiders to LA.
Bills to Toronto.
And as I stated above, I'm not sure LA deserves one team, I guarantee you that they don't deserve two.
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The Jaguars are always the team rumored to go to London with the other three always in the L.A.
The Bills will eventually move to Toronto. I also wouldn't be shocked if the Buccaneers and/or Dolphins move at some point.
There is no way they move the Jaguars, then move the Bucs AND the Dolphins and leave the whole state of Florida without a paid football team (well other than the Gators)...
No way the Phins move and the Bucs won't either. At least I don't believe so. They both seem to have a strong fan base, especially the Phins.
Jax is the only team in line for a move and I'm having a problem with the logistics of having a team in London. I don't believe it will work but I'd like to see the plan. 8 times a year, the team will have to fly to the states, and 8 trips to London for stateside teams. I see folks complaining about a disadvantage for the teams traveling.
And I don't ever see a Superbowl being played in London.
So for me, it's Jax to LA..
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I just listed the teams with stadium/attendance issues.
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