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Browns RG Pinkston goes down with what appears to be an ankle in the second preseason game vs Detroit.. Gilkey replaces him with the first team.
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Dion Lewis was just injured and could barely put weight down on his knee/leg.
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Broken Leg for Lewis  Bruised lung for Mingo, Sprained ankle for Pinkston 
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Injuries are going to happen...the bad news, Lewis lost for the season, but the Browns are deep at RB.
Pinkston and Mingo will recover and play ... so no need to be concerned...we are fine.
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I'd be surprised at that, if he is. They could easily PUP him and bring him back in Week 8. We can also IR one player and bring them back after Week 10, I believe it is.
If the kid looks to be a major contributor, his season is not lost - not by a long shot.
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Would be a good time to review the new half season IR rules. I don't really understand them myself or how it differs from PUP. I know anyone who has practiced (even for a minute) isn't available for PUP.
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Injuries are going to happen...the bad news, Lewis lost for the season, but the Browns are deep at RB.
Pinkston and Mingo will recover and play ... so no need to be concerned...we are fine.
yeah but pinkston will be out for at least 6 weeks if its a high ankle sprain. We are gonna have to make some decisions. Someone is gonna have to go on IR for the year. I think it will be pinkston
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Someone is gonna have to go on IR for the year. I think it will be pinkston
Over a sprained ankle?? Not likely.
If nothing else, we'll carry him on the 53 man roster and hold him out until he's healthy. If that means 6 weeks, then he misses the first four games and then comes back to play against the Bills.
Not a big deal.
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Over a sprained ankle?? Not likely.
If nothing else, we'll carry him on the 53 man roster and hold him out until he's healthy. If that means 6 weeks, then he misses the first four games and then comes back to play against the Bills.
Not a big deal.
yeah but we got to carry lavav man to who has the same injury and wont be back untill week 3. plus we need to sign another guard......
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Someone is gonna have to go on IR for the year. I think it will be pinkston
Over a sprained ankle?? Not likely.
If nothing else, we'll carry him on the 53 man roster and hold him out until he's healthy. If that means 6 weeks, then he misses the first four games and then comes back to play against the Bills.
Not a big deal.
yeah but we got to carry lavav man to who has the same injury and wont be back untill week 3. plus we need to sign another guard......
No, we don't. We can just roll with what we have in house.
Plus, we're not even to first cuts, yet.
Lastly... who is less likely to end up removed from the 53-man roster at final cuts.... some bubble player that can only contribute on special teams and will likely clear waivers, or a starting Guard?
We'll waive someone on the bubble that we'll be able to re-sign later and carry the OLineman - just as we would if he wasn't hurt. Additionally, with the suspension, Gordon won't count as a player on the roster for the first two weeks, so if we HAD to, we could carry one more person. There is absolutely no reason to send a player to the IR to miss the whole season for a short-term injury.
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Someone is gonna have to go on IR for the year. I think it will be pinkston
Over a sprained ankle?? Not likely.
If nothing else, we'll carry him on the 53 man roster and hold him out until he's healthy. If that means 6 weeks, then he misses the first four games and then comes back to play against the Bills.
Not a big deal.
yeah but we got to carry lavav man to who has the same injury and wont be back untill week 3. plus we need to sign another guard......
No, we don't. We can just roll with what we have in house.
Plus, we're not even to first cuts, yet.
Lastly... who is less likely to end up removed from the 53-man roster at final cuts.... some bubble player that can only contribute on special teams and will likely clear waivers, or a starting Guard?
We'll waive someone on the bubble that we'll be able to re-sign later and carry the OLineman - just as we would if he wasn't hurt. Additionally, with the suspension, Gordon won't count as a player on the roster for the first two weeks, so if we HAD to, we could carry one more person. There is absolutely no reason to send a player to the IR to miss the whole season for a short-term injury.
I rewatched the game again. Glikey did not perform very well, which is what you would expect from a 7th rounder. More then once i seen him miss his block, fall flat on his face as the defender just ran by him with a speed or swim move. he also gave up a sack i believe to one of their 3rd stringers. Not saying this kid wont be good one day but I cant see him starting against miami....they will target him and he will be eaten alive. Maybe Ryan miller?
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heard Chud say today that Dion Lewis will need surgery .. meaning he will most likely be done for the year.
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heard Chud say today that Dion Lewis will need surgery .. meaning he will most likely be done for the year.
yeah if it requires surgery he is done....must have been a really bad break. probably wll need screws and a plate. i can relate. used to wrestle in highschool...broke both bones in my arm. had two large titanium plates and screws put in. Was in a cast for like 3 months.
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yeah and I broke my ankle both bones and tore all my tendons...I was a bricklayer, not an easy job....4 plates 16 screws I was back to work in 6 weeks...and your point is...
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Dion Lewis isn't as tough as you.
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yeah and I broke my ankle both bones and tore all my tendons...I was a bricklayer, not an easy job....4 plates 16 screws I was back to work in 6 weeks...and your point is...
Big difference between brick laying and playing in the nfl. You werent getting hit by 300 pound linemen and 240 pound linebackers. Even if you weren't 100 percent you could go back to your job, he wont be able to. Point is he will probably be down for a tleast 2-3 months....thats almost November. I would be shocked if he isnt put on IR.
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Mingo's injury is being described as "very, very unusual" by physicians ... and is now expected to miss 2-3 weeks. We'll be lucky if he's ready for the opener. Of course. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/08/barkevious_mingos_bruised_lung.html
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The bright-side is that Mingo is only our third OLB and we also signed Groves in the off-season.
While it stinks that we won't be able to see him for a few weeks it's not a huge blow on the level of Lauvao or Pinkston.
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Dion Lewis was just injured and could barely put weight down on his knee/leg.
I don't think people are grasping the blow this is to our offense. Lewis was highly touted coming out of Pitt and was a key (albeit under the radar) off-season pick up. He was by far and away our #2 RB behind TRich, had our 3rd down RB spot essentially locked up and was ALSO our starting kick returner. Even if TRich stayed healthy he was going to play a pretty big role and IMO was our #1B at the RB spot in the event Richardson got injured. Simply put, he was going to get touches, play a pretty big role and by all accounts was excelling in that role. Now that's all down the tubes.
We're down to TRich (who can't stay healthy and has barely been above league average) followed by Brandon Jackson (he's competent but that's about it. He's not striking fear in any defense) and Chris Ogbonnaya (who is now our starting fullback).
The only way our RB situation ISN'T bleak is if TRich becomes an every down 320+ carry, 1400+ yard type of elite back.
Possible? Sure. Probable? Not freaking likely.
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I think Mingo got hurt on the punt return that was called back. He blocked the punter who leg whipped him when he was going down, making Mingo fall on his back.
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I don't think people are grasping the blow this is to our offense. Lewis was highly touted coming out of Pitt and was a key (albeit under the radar) off-season pick up. He was by far and away our #2 RB behind TRich, had our 3rd down RB spot essentially locked up and was ALSO our starting kick returner. Even if TRich stayed healthy he was going to play a pretty big role and IMO was our #1B at the RB spot in the event Richardson got injured. Simply put, he was going to get touches, play a pretty big role and by all accounts was excelling in that role. Now that's all down the tubes.
We're down to TRich (who can't stay healthy and has barely been above league average) followed by Brandon Jackson (he's competent but that's about it. He's not striking fear in any defense) and Chris Ogbonnaya (who is now our starting fullback).
The only way our RB situation ISN'T bleak is if TRich becomes an every down 320+ carry, 1400+ yard type of elite back.
Possible? Sure. Probable? Not freaking likely.
I agree, this is a HUGE blow....
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We'll be lucky if he's ready for the opener. Of course.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/08/barkevious_mingos_bruised_lung.html
Great....just great...with our luck it will get worse and he will miss significant time...
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How many offensive touches was Lewis going to get per game? 3? 5? That is not a huge blow. And we have other guys who can return kicks.
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I suspect that Lewis was going to be a 7-10 touch/game guy ...... but that's not going to happen right now. He might be back later this year, or he might be out for the year. Either way I think that we'll be OK. I think that Jackson can catch the ball really well out of the backfield as well. He doesn't have the great speed that Lewis does, but I think that he can be a useful part. We also have Obi who can do some of the same things Lewis does, again without quite the speed Lewis has. Anyway, it does seem like Norv knows how to fill holes when he has to. I do wonder who is going to be out KR now though. Maybe Bademosi? I think that he's been the #2 KO returner so far this year. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I really don't want to have Benjamin do too much on teams. Then again, if we keep the opponent from scoring, they only get to kick off once, and this becomes a moot point. 
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Can't Cooper or Norwood return kicks?
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Only if they make the team, and that's no guarantee for either guy IMHO.
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I would assume Bademosi, Skrine, and Benjamin are the other options to return kicks. Bademosi hasn't looked bad doing it thus far, but ideally Lewis' replacement could also be in the mix.
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Barkevious Mingo's bruised lung should keep him out at least 2-3 weeks, thoracic surgeon says
By Mary Kay Cabot, Cleveland.com
August 16, 2013 at 8:33 PM, updated August 16, 2013 at 9:57 PM
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Browns linebacker Barkevious Mingo's bruised lung is "very, very unusual'' and needs at least two to three weeks to heal, according to a noted thoracic surgeon.
That means Mingo, who remains hospitalized at the Cleveland Clinic at least until Saturday, could miss the final two preseason games -- and possibly even the opener Sept. 8 against Miami. Three weeks would put him back on the field Sept. 5 with only a couple of days to practice for the opener.
"I played football through college, and I've never heard of any football player having this,'' said Clark Fuller, Director of Thoracic Surgery at Saint John's Health Center in Santa Monica, Calif., who hasn't treated Mingo. "Usually the only people I've treated with this were bullriders. It takes a really big whack to bruise a lung. It's hard to do. You've got to really get hit.''
Coach Rob Chudzinski said he's still not exactly sure when the injury -- which involves bleeding in the lung -- occurred during Thursday's 24-6 victory over the Lions. Mingo, who had difficulty breathing and other unknown symptoms, left the game early in the second quarter and was admitted to the Clinic. He was set to be released Friday at noon, but doctors held him at least until tomorrow for precautionary reasons, Chudzinski said.
"There wasn't some huge hit that would lead you to believe that's when it happened,'' Chudzinski said on a conference call today. "I’m not sure at what point it happened in the game, whether it was one particular hit, or a combination of hits.”
Fuller said that if he were treating Mingo he'd shut him down at least for the final two preseason games, Aug. 24 in Indianapolis and Aug. 29 in Chicago.
"I wouldn't take a chance on playing him in preseason,'' said Fuller. "You definitely want that thing to clear. The lung isn't healthy. Should it happen again and you re-injure that lung, you might tear it. If you tear that lung and the bleeding starts going into the chest itself, then you've got real issues."
A league source said Mingo felt great Friday and wanted to go home. In fact, he felt good Thursday night in the hours after the game.
"It doesn't surprise me that he doesn't feel too bad,'' Fuller said. "These guys are in the best possible shape. But the damage is still there. The injured part is inside his body and you can't rely just on his symptoms alone. It just needs time to heal, and you don't want to interrupt that process. You're messing with a lung, and that's a big deal.''
Fuller acknowledged that bruised lungs can sometimes be fatal, with some estimating the mortality rate at 14 to 40 percent.
"It tore some small blood vessels just to produce bleeding inside the lung,'' he said. "If you tear some larger ones, the chest cavity is an area where you could bleed to death and nobody ever sees a drop of blood on the ground.''
Fuller said Mingo's doctors "are being really conservative, and understandably so. They've seen something on film. They're probably downplaying it for you all, but you don't just go home the next day and resume normal activity.''
Fuller said that when he sees patients with bruised lungs who have been in car accidents, "it's usually associated with rib fractures. The chest wall trauma breaks a rib and it contuses the underneath lung.''
The Browns have said X-rays were negative and that Mingo didn't break any ribs, but Fuller said the blow to the chest wall could also take a significant time to heal. He added that doctors look for secondary infections, progression of bleeding, structural damage and fluid buildup between the lung and the chest wall. In the absence of those things, Fuller would send him back on the field in two to three weeks.
"Sitting him at least until the opener would be the smart play,'' he said. "With a lung, you have to let nature take its course. There's no ultrasound, there's no hydrotherapy, nothing like you can do with a knee or an elbow or a shoulder.''
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Good read. Kind of sounds scary though if it really is "that' unusual of an injury.
It makes me wonder if he'll be able to take a smacking from a monster fullback or a physical style running back without this reoccurring again?
To question whether he'll be ready for the first game is a sucky situation to be in. That on top of him being a rookie, these preseason games are likely more beneficial to him compared to the vets and etc. Blah...
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LB...not knowing how it happened is a bit of a concern...how do the Browns protect Mingo from this happening again, if they don't know what caused it?
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A bruised lung is caused by blunt force trauma...they just don't know which play.
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Won't happen again.
Chud said..."There wasn't some huge hit that would lead you to believe that's when it happened,'' Chudzinski said on a conference call today. "I’m not sure at what point it happened in the game, whether it was one particular hit, or a combination of hits.”
It sounds like Mingo's injury is a bit of a mystery and there is no way to know if it will happen again.
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There's a lot f what if?, could be, might be, should we?, and so on in that article.
While I do agree that the Browns should be extremely cautious with a bruised lung, and put the player's health and well-being ahead of rushing him back to the field ..... this doctor, who hasn't examined Mingo at all, is making a ton of assumptions. Maybe the doctors who are actually treating Mingo will know best?
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