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I was just wondering, because if I was the lord, I wouldn't consider it a "Good" Friday.

Getting whipped, spit on, and having to carry the heavy instrument of your death up a hill, and then have nails pounded through your hands and feet, and a spear shoved in your side isn't exactly my idea of anything that would remotely resemble "Good".

It was good for those who believe he died for their sins.

It is a day that is good because God was drawing the world to God's self in Christ. As seen in John's gospel, particularly, God was in control. God was not making the best of a bad situation, but was working out God's intention for the world — winning salvation for all people. We call it "good" because we look backward at the crucifixion through the lens of Easter.

I googled it.

One of the worst Fridays on record

I really hope that you are joking about this solemn day.....

I chuckled ... because he's right.

I am

I observe this day, i just think every time. and it really lightens my spirits when I have a bad day, because, it could always be worse

I think it's because people aren't very good at math.


Let's do the math,shall we?

According to the Bible. Christ lay in the grave for three days and three nights.

Okay then. If he WAS crucified on Friday,he lay in the grave for three days.........................Friday,Satuday and Sunday.

Three nights? Friday night,saturday night,and Sunday night.

So basic MATH tells you,that he could NOT have been crusified on a Friday and resurrected on Sunday morning! It's mathematicly IMPOSSIBLE!

So was he crucified on Thurday? Or was he resurrected on Monday? ONE of those two HAD to happen!

But not according to "religion". According to religion,the Bible is wrong. Either that,or their math skills are sorely lacking.


So you do the math!

The Bible I pretty much believe. Religion? Not so much.

I was waiting for you on this one.

Sorry,been busy today.


BTW- Am I adding to three correctly?

heretic!

...and if I wasn't on my way out the door to go seize my dinner, I would sit here and look it up and give you the KJV translation.

I believe the Bible says, "ON the third day he rose from the dead" ? So Sunday is the third day.

So he was crusified on Friday afternoon and resurrected at Sunrise on Sunday. That's less than 48 hours? But that constitutes three days?

Interesting concept.

People were shorter back then, so their days were shorter too.... that and it was a different calendar.

and the hundred years war wasn't really one hundred years.

Good doesn't mean good. From Wikipedia:

It is likely that the name "Good Friday" came from the earlier English name, "Godes Friday," meaning "God's Friday." In much the same way as "God be with ye" was shortened to "goodbye," so did "Godes Friday" become "Good Friday."[citation needed]
The Dutch name Goede Vrijdag translates as "Good Friday". Other languages refer to this day in different ways (mostly as holy Friday)..
In the Holy Land, Good Friday is known as "Big Friday." In Germany it is "Karfreitag", an Old German word meaning "Friday of lamentation", although this meaning is not obvious to speakers of modern German. In Armenia it is called "High Friday". In Russia it is called "Passion Friday".
Great Friday: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Greece, Hungary, Macedonia, Malta (Il-?img?a l-Kbira), Poland, Lithuania, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, and in the Eastern Orthodox Church generally
Holy Friday: Latin America, Spain (Viernes Santo), France, Italy (venerdi santo), Portugal, Brazil (Sexta-Feira Santa), Philippines (Mahal na Araw or Biyernes Santo), Vietnam (Th? sáu Tu?n Thánh), Japan
Long Friday: Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Faroe Islands, Iceland
Jesus' Crucifixion Day: China

Wiki

My Catholic wife worships in commemoration of the crucifixion on Thursday, (believing that to be the day of death,) and that his preparation and burial happened on Friday.

The Pagan origins of the Easter Bunny

Have you ever wondered where the celebration of the Christian holiday celebrating the resurrection of Christ acquired its unusual name and odd symbols of colored eggs and rabbits?

The answer lies in the ingenious way that the Christian church absorbed Pagan practices. After discovering that people were more reluctant to give up their holidays and festivals than their gods, they simply incorporated Pagan practices into Christian festivals. As recounted by the Venerable Bede, an early Christian writer, clever clerics copied Pagan practices and by doing so, made Christianity more palatable to pagan folk reluctant to give up their festivals for somber Christian practices.

In second century Europe, the predominate spring festival was a raucous Saxon fertility celebration in honor of the Saxon Goddess Eastre (Ostara), whose sacred animal was a hare.

The colored eggs associated with the bunny are of another, even more ancient origin. The eggs associated with this and other Vernal festivals have been symbols of rebirth and fertility for so long the precise roots of the tradition are unknown, and may date to the beginning of human civilization. Ancient Romans and Greeks used eggs as symbols of fertility, rebirth, and abundance- eggs were solar symbols, and figured in the festivals of numerous resurrected gods.

Pagan fertility festivals at the time of the Spring equinox were common- it was believed that at this time, when day and night were of equal length, male and female energies were also in balance. The hare is often associated with moon goddesses; the egg and the hare together represent the god and the goddess, respectively.

Moving forward fifteen hundred years, we find ourselves in Germany, where children await the arrival of Oschter Haws, a rabbit who will lay colored eggs in nests to the delight of children who discover them Easter morning. It was this German tradition that popularized the 'Easter bunny' in America, when introduced into the American cultural fabric by German settlers in Pennsylvania.

Many modern practitioners of Neo-pagan and earth-based religions have embraced these symbols as part of their religious practice, identifying with the life-affirming aspects of the spring holiday. (The Neopagan holiday of Ostara is descended from the Saxon festival.) Ironically, some Christian groups have used the presence of these symbols to denounce the celebration of the Easter holiday, and many churches have recently abandoned the Pagan moniker with more Christian oriented titles like 'Resurrection Sunday.'

http://altreligion.about.com/cs/alchemy/a/mpreviss.htm

Even the pagans were shorter?

Easter articles

The name Easter is the slightly changed English spelling of the name of the ancient Assyrian and Babylonian goddess Ishtar, the 'Queen of Heaven' who is also known as Ostern, Eostre ('Goddess of the Dawn'), and Astarte—the ancient pagan goddess of fertility and spring who was celebrated annually on the vernal (spring) equinox. The Roman Catholic church incorporated the Easter traditions into its version of Christianity by subtly altering the meaning of the rituals to try to venerate Jesus Christ. Even though Jesus Christ clearly said He would be in the grave 'three days and three nights'—making a 'Good' Friday crucifixion and Easter Sunday morning resurrection impossible—this flawed tradition was adopted to honor both the goddess of fertility (whose day is Friday) as well as worship of the rising sun through Easter sunrise services. This is also the basis of the common, though wrong, Sunday worship. The first-century church observed the Passover, not Easter, and worshipped on the seventh-day Sabbath rather than Sunday.

http://sabbath.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sa/subj/easter/easter-articles.htm


Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from You." But He answered and said to them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." (Matthew 12:38-40)

Because it is Good Friday... The best Friday ever... As others in the know here have mentioned ... In a very excellently sarcastic manner...
Good topic and good thread, especially today!

Don't look to a football board to explain religion... Don't go "to them internets" especially the Wikipedia site which can be edited, updated by nearly anyone at any time...

Keep in mind the Bible is a story book, a journal... Not a totally accurate account of everything that happened... It's not a re-enactment or an iron clad account of actual history... Anyone who has educated themselves with regard to this topic clearly recognizes and acknowledges this...

Peace be with you all! Happy Easter.

Wrong... funny as all get out, but wrong, especially in this thread...

Every time I read a thread like this I still remember how much I miss Ozzie82.

Keep the discussion going guys, I'm just clicking on it for right now.

Side note, today at work a co worker and I had a discussion. He's a Muslim, I'm a Christian. He talked about how the Koran teaches that Christ didn't die on the cross, rather it was made to appear that he did and Jesus was already in heaven. I sat and thought about the statement for a few minutes before giving my answer.

If God/Allah (Whatever you call him) was to create an illusion and make people see/believe something that's not true, wouldn't that contradict the nature and characteristics of God? God is (personal interpretation of the scriptures not withstanding) Loving, faithful, truthful.

He walked away and told me he would have to get back with me on that.

Hey Mike, I'll save you the trouble.

John 20:1 (NKJ) Now the first day of the week Mary Magdalene went to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb.

So this means according to John's account it was early Sunday morning.

1 Corinthians 15:4 That he was buried, that he was raised on the third day
This is actually part of the Apostle's creed

Pit - I think you have to accept that the book of stories, otherwise known as the Bible, has some MAJOR contradictions throughout it. Throw in the man built Catholic Church and that's a powerful combination of stories and men that think God speak to them.

Religion is a very odd and unique experience. Having grown up in a Catholic house and attending Catholic schools K-12, I had plenty of brainwashing till I was old enough to actually think for myself. Of course the believers and followers of religions will discount any math and/or scientific explanations of any part of the religion, regardless of how much sense it may make.

You're right about that, when someone has their mind made up, it's made up.

Speaking of church, does anyone have a family member that doesn't go along for some reason?

My mom, my sister, and I are all going this Sunday, but my Dad remains behind.

I mean it is his choice whether he wants to go or not but I wonder whay he doesn't want to go? I tried to talk to him about it and he avoids the subject.

Where in the bible is Jesus words contradicted? There are religious sources out there that do suggest Jesus died on Wednesday or Thursday. Good Friday is a day that was created by humans to observe that death of Jesus. Started back in the first century. As a Browns fan, I'm sure you know how hard it is to get someone to break tradition.

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I mean it is his choice whether he wants to go or not but I wonder whay he doesn't want to go? I tried to talk to him about it and he avoids the subject.

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Next time he's asleep check his scalp for the number of the beast.

90210 ??

I think he means a 6 followed by a 9.

That's one helluva beast!

You were the last person I'd expect to pull this thread into the gutter

I was wrong.

If...I go by Matthew 12:38-41. It does say 3 days and 3 nights, but these were words spoken by Jesus prior to his death and resurrection. Now, either Jesus is a liar, or the dudes that wrote 1 Corinthians 15:4 is wrong when he says the lord rose on the third day. CONTRADICTION.

What do you have after 3 whole days and 3 whole nights?

4 days.

So "Good" Friday is a concoction of the Roman Catholic Church, because they didn't have good math back then, Jesus had too much wine when he was referring to Jonah or he actually did raise up on the 4th day after his death, or the apostle Paul was groggy from being whipped and tortured by the Romans and thought 3 was 4.

I get it now!

So, "Good Friday" was actually (most likely) a Thursday or Wednesday night.

Any church is people... What ever your beliefs are, your first priority should be your relationship with your God... If you don't believe in God you really have no basis for a take... JMO

People who think "they", “the Church" are to blame are not thinking for clearly or for themselves... People are to blame… Example… Who is to blame for all Cleveland’s first round draft pick busts? The Cleveland Browns? NO! The FO and coaching personnel who made the decisions…

People make choices for themselves... Everyone is presented with material, information a topic and we all comprehend, determine, discern and choose... We are not made, forced into to do anything. We have been given the gift of free will and freedom in our country.

What resource would any "church" use to question mathematics as it relates to 2000 years of biblical/religious questions, concerns or misunderstandings? The bible is simply not a literal, accurate, measurable, quantifiable time line of all the actual events that took place…

The issue/problem of/in believing is personal choice... People who must have literal black and white documented answers "don't do well with religion"... Yet they feel/say they are free thinkers, better educated, not programmed... Not so, they simply have difficulty comprehending the unexplainable... Faith, belief, and trust, gray areas are all areas that are nearly unfathomable to many...

I know I’ll never figure it all out. I am a devout Catholic and continue to educate myself. I know what I believe, I trust my relationship with God. I understand that my church is secondary and that people, the church, are not perfect and flawed… Those who are without sin cast the first stone… Not me.

You guys are getting caught up in the logistics of it all imo. The truth is Good Friday, Easter, Christmas........all off it is just a day set aside for the rememberance and honoring of the Lord's birth, death, and resurection. Who cares if he died on Monday, Tuesday, or Sunday??? It's about remembering what happened and the supreme sacrifice that was paid for the remission of our sins. The church picked a day (and yes it was most likely picked to convert the pagan contries and let them keep their holidays) and historically we have honored the occasion on that day. The day of the week isn't the important thing, the reason that day was picked isn't the important thing, but remembering that Christ died for the sins of humanity is the important thing....jmho.

Have you heard of Holy week? Holy Thursday? The Sabath? Christmas? Do you know where the term holiday comes from?

Just some quotes to ponder...

"To eror is human, to forgive is devine" --Alexander Pope...

Great men are they who see that the spiritual is stronger than any material force." --Ralph Waldo Emerson

"It must be of the spirit if we are to save the flesh." --Douglas Macarthur

"One truth stands firm. All that happens in world history rests on something spiritual. If the spiritual is strong, it creates world history. If it is weak, it suffers world history." --Albert Schweitzer