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I'm not happy with the situation with this guy. Will he ever be healthy enough to play? All the hype about him playing hurt last season...
Last year he had an average of 17 attempts per game. His average gain was 3.6 yards. Statistically, he's average. Merely average.
Last week the press reported originally that the team stated that he was being held out for protection. Now we know it was another injury. Is he durable enough to play in the NFL?
I know he only has one season under his belt. But...the same trend is appearing in preseason this year. Hurt. Hurt. Hurt. I won't call him a draft bust yet. I'll wait to see what happens this year.
How long is his contract?
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He had a boo-boo on his shin. It might have been a deep bruise on the bone. It's better to let that heal now instead of losing him at the end of the season, if it was a bone bruise.
Only time will tell if he's too fragile for the NFL.
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We'll know soon enough about him. I don't care about him being held out of preseason games or practices. If he's missing time during the year or running into tackles, then I will be worried.
I thought it was tough of him to play a lot of the year with the jacket on, still getting 12 TD's and almost 1000 yards. That's respectable but that cannot be the norm. We need him healthy and without restrictions.
Can't blame the team for holding him out so much, look around the league. Jamal Charles was carted out of practice today. Yikes.
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There is no point in letting a running back receive punishment in practice games. Especially when that running back is going to get 300 carries in meaningful game.
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I'm not worried.
I think the "shin" bruise was fake anyway. Turner doesn't like using his RBs in preseason games, so I think once Trent got hit in the shin, they were like "aha! now we have a reason to rest him until the start of the season."
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more TRich injury lies? Im not sure I can handle all this fakery!
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I'm not happy with the situation with this guy. Will he ever be healthy enough to play? All the hype about him playing hurt last season...
Last year he had an average of 17 attempts per game. His average gain was 3.6 yards. Statistically, he's average. Merely average.
Last week the press reported originally that the team stated that he was being held out for protection. Now we know it was another injury. Is he durable enough to play in the NFL?
I know he only has one season under his belt. But...the same trend is appearing in preseason this year. Hurt. Hurt. Hurt. I won't call him a draft bust yet. I'll wait to see what happens this year.
How long is his contract?
Well at least we have Montario Hardesty. Wait, he is always hurt too, crap! 
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Let's give him more than one season before we start calling him injury prone and become dissatisifed with his contract, shall we?
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I'm not happy with the situation with this guy. Will he ever be healthy enough to play? All the hype about him playing hurt last season...
Last year he had an average of 17 attempts per game. His average gain was 3.6 yards. Statistically, he's average. Merely average.
Last week the press reported originally that the team stated that he was being held out for protection. Now we know it was another injury. Is he durable enough to play in the NFL?
I know he only has one season under his belt. But...the same trend is appearing in preseason this year. Hurt. Hurt. Hurt. I won't call him a draft bust yet. I'll wait to see what happens this year.
How long is his contract?
Well at least we have Montario Hardesty. Wait, he is always hurt too, crap!
Hardesty is better for us on the bench than on the field. Yep. I don't give a hoot about whether or not he plays in pre-season games. But, missing practices, held out of scrimmages, and the experience that goes along with that. isn't good for any player.
I won't give you the "in my day" speech. But....players used to play with two broken legs and their arms still in casts. Exaggerating okay? Now we have lawsuits over concussions, mandatory padding rules by the league...etc etc etc. It's a mans game. It's a rough game. And even though they have toned the physical aspects of the game down quite a bit, some players still can't cut it.
A lot of teams draft players who are starters and kick butt right out of the box. We always seem to draft the ones that either can't fit in the box, aren't starters or as proven by our current QB situation, retirement age. 
I know this last draft was very weak in talent. If at the end of this year we don't see more from T-Rich, then it's time to go shopping. If he can't be a dynamic starter he at least could replace Hardesty (whom I have no use for).
And I'M NOT singing the requiem on his career yet. I'm just concerned. As I have been for many many years. And getting more and more discouraged each and every year.
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I asked, "How long is his contract?" Not because I think we should dump him. Just curious if he's going to be a dedicated hard working player and we have a bunch of time to develop him. Seems we love to draft developing players.
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one shouldnt confuse the ability to run with a ball in hand and the ability to positively impact a football team through decision making or being full of great ideas.
again, he was good at running with a ball in his hands, thats it.
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Let's give him more than one season before we start calling him injury prone and become dissatisifed with his contract, shall we?
I agree - the guy played with busted up ribs last year in his first year in the NFL... Tts impressive
I don't care if he sits out the entire preseason... Its preseason and he's a back... I don't think it'll take a ton for him to get ready for the season.... Lets give him the year and see what he can do
He was banged up last year and still gave us a pretty decent year despite an overall poor offensive year from the browns
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Yeah, it's not like we are installing a new offense or anything. And his year wasn't that great. 3.6 yds. per carry is horrible. That tied for 37th overall. He got plenty of carries. He ranked 11th there. He ranked 18th in rushing. 1,000 yds are not such a big deal anymore. 16 guys surpassed 1,000 yds. Even Reggie Bush gained more than TRich, w/986 yards and 40 fewer carries. --The guy has had one injury after another. I think the original poster was being reasonable when he questioned if TRich was injury prone. I guess I would have to answer you guys by saying..........how about he has one good year before we anoint him as a very good RB? --The guy was supposed to be the best back since Peterson. He wasn't even close to that last year. He was drafted 3rd overall and we gave up multiple picks for a freaking RB who had a knee injury. Brilliant move.  Thus far, he has been a disappointment. I hope he plays a lot better. I am NOT saying he can't, but he needs to step up his game. He was a HUGE investment. I still can't believe we made that stupid pick. RBs can be found in so many places. And we trade up. The guy NEEDS to get better.
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Yeah, it's not like we are installing a new offense or anything.
And his year wasn't that great. 3.6 yds. per carry is horrible. That tied for 37th overall.
He got plenty of carries. He ranked 11th there.
He ranked 18th in rushing. 1,000 yds are not such a big deal anymore. 16 guys surpassed 1,000 yds. Even Reggie Bush gained more than TRich, w/986 yards and 40 fewer carries.
--The guy has had one injury after another. I think the original poster was being reasonable when he questioned if TRich was injury prone. I guess I would have to answer you guys by saying..........how about he has one good year before we anoint him as a very good RB?
--The guy was supposed to be the best back since Peterson. He wasn't even close to that last year. He was drafted 3rd overall and we gave up multiple picks for a freaking RB who had a knee injury. Brilliant move. Thus far, he has been a disappointment. I hope he plays a lot better. I am NOT saying he can't, but he needs to step up his game. He was a HUGE investment. I still can't believe we made that stupid pick. RBs can be found in so many places. And we trade up. The guy NEEDS to get better.
Agreed Vers, but I would slightly rephrase that to say: The guy MUST get better. We can only wait...
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Did I miss a new injury report on report on Trent? Last I saw our #2 Hardesty ( for a short while longer)
was injured with a thumb.
This is getting ridiculous of TR being questioned if he is durable enough for the NFL after one season, which by the way he did play injured.
Are you somehow pervy to information the rest of are not?
Maybe it's the coaches decision to hold him back during camp/pre-season.
I do believe there was a guy LT that Norv coached that was notourious for missing pre-season time.
Now, I agree taking a running back 3rd ( especialy trading up) put huge expectations on TR & he only had a mediocre rookie campaign. However, this is a blue chip player for our Browns and he needs to be given the chance to succeed. I would wager if kick-off was tomorrow we would see #33 ready to go.
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You do realize that he hurt his shin again last week and was held out of practices and the first preseason game for that reason, right?
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... if kick-off was tomorrow we would see #33 ready to go.
I don't believe anybody is disputing that point. However, the question is can he stay healthy (knowing that hurts/bruises are a normal part of the game)...
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Is he there for when it matters?
RB's are still a breed of athlete who have short years. Keeping them healthy is important.
Can T-Rich play through the pain? I think so. I think last year was a confluence of events. Between a long season, the knee surgery in the offseason, I felt like he was a little out of shape at camp. Then he tweaks his knee again and cannot practice and only barely makes it to the first game.
When he was finally rounding into shape, he breaks his ribs and then simply cannot produce any more.
By all accounts, this year he is fully healthy and the coaching staff wants to limit the hits he'll take in games that don't matter. If he shows up against the Dolphins and is the best player on the field, then I'll be fine. If he still looks to be struggling with injuries and misses the game, or is ineffective, then I'll worry.
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Yes, I was aware he was kicked again and held out on the coaches decision. Based on the interviews I saw from TR he was ready if needed. Trust me I prefer TR was out there for every drill, I just belive he is intentially being held back and based on all the training camp injuries for good reason. Hey we may have found our diamond in the ruff w. Dion Lewis  becasue TR has been out. This is a kid I liked when I saw him put up 200+ against Cincy two years ago.
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Its preseason, and not only do those games dont matter...Trent is still practicing.
Its called a precaution for a reason. Why would we hurt a guy who is going to carry the ball 300 times and the coaches obviously feel that he is doing his job well.
If they didnt think he was going to be okay, they wouldve played him. They wouldnt have voluntarily held him out of the games. This talk on Trent is getting beyond absurd right now. Did he live up to billing last year? No...is it crazy to put blame on the coaching philosophy? No...is it crazy to say injuries slowed him? no. Could he have been better? of course...
We didnt draft Trent to be the best player on the planet last year...It would have helped, however...He was gotten to become the best back in the NFL as the offense and the team improved. Trent is the real deal, we've seen it in his TD totals, in his abilities on his good plays.
3.6 per carry sucks sure. However, it was .5 less than our entire teams carries. There is our cause for concern.
Disappointment? a Stupid pick? thats wild.
See what consistently good backs do for a team. We scored just over 40 TDs last year, and Trent was responsible for 25% of that. If you can name another back or player that accounted for 25% of his TDs I'd like to see it. Youll likely come up with only one other name...AP.
Trent will have a fantastic season, you'll see it. To wail on this guy now, only sets up the expectations of his season to be a let down regardless.
The 3rd pick in the draft is supposed to push for Pro Bowls every season. Theres no reason to believe he wont do so this year. All of the talk has been that he is ready for the season. To give him unnecessary work would put him at risk. What would we say if he played hurt in the preseason...if he got hurt worse in the preseason...Wed hang the staff by the short hairs.
Trent is fine and will be fine.
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We aren't the only teams taking cautious actions. Shanahan won't even let RGIII take a preaseason snap...
I know i've kind of ripped Trent for his injury list, but i'll wait til the end of this year before I push the dagger fully in and deliver the death blow.
Let us be frank, with Pat and Brad's (or maybe just Pat's) play calling, would Jamaal Charles have had a nice YPC? Would any elite RB flourish in that system? Exclude in the injuries and etc, I don't think so. I mean we'd run the ball and get 4 yards, 5 yards, whatever a good carry is and then we'd see three pass plays and before you know it, it's 4th and 6, 4th and 8 and etc. No passing game is also a running backs worst enemy.
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I agree. I think he has proven toughness, not "hype", when he played last year. Notice how Shurmy's playcalling was grinder for backs? I want to see him this year, healthy. Coaches are brilliant to have him for the season when it counts. I hope he stays healthy. Hardesty concerns me more. Much more. A bit too harsh and far too premature looking for negative knocks this early. Coaches say sit, you sit. 
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I read you loud and clear Vers. Hard for me to even discuss that draft.
However, Richardson is much better than what he has shown so far. I really believe that. And I think this year he will show up big time.
Injuries in the NFL are just part of the business and they are random. They can happen to any guy any time.
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One year and done? I think the kid needs more time than that to prove he is or isn't sturdy enough for the NFL.
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j/c...
Its preseason. He got kicked hard in the shin. We sat him out till its 100% but he's doing drills.
I think just a little case of Chicken Little  the sky is falling - going on here by some. Way too early for that.
I'll say this. RB is probably our strongest position and excellent depth.
Marecic will get cut. Hardesty probably will get traded.
Trent, Jackson, Lewis n Ogb will handle the position quite well!
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It's hard to give up on potential. And Hardesty has more potential than all of our backups.
But there's something to be said with reliability, professionalism and being able to successfully fill a role.
And for that reason it wouldn't surprise me at all if we moved forward without him.
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Nobody will trade anything for an always crippled RB who hasn't shown anything through the first 3 years of his career. I'm pretty sure the Browns will just release him. That really sucks, because I had high hopes when we drafted him and thought he had the potential to hold down the starting role for a while.
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Nobody will trade anything for an always crippled RB who hasn't shown anything through the first 3 years of his career. I'm pretty sure the Browns will just release him. That really sucks, because I had high hopes when we drafted him and thought he had the potential to hold down the starting role for a while.
Thats exactly what I was thinking
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I will add that he only missed 1 game due to injury. All players play hurt, some injuries affect performance more than others.
And a Shurmur run offense isn't helpful either with run on 1st, run on 2nd and long, run on 3rd and long, but pass on 3rd and 1. 1st graders could have game planned against Shurmur and had moderate success.
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Richardson is clearly a tough guy to play with broken ribs, however the fact that he's had so many injury issues here in the last two years (college included) doesn't really mold well for his future. He's likely to have a relatively short NFL career.
I feel very uneasy about him right now, I'm crossing my fingers he stays healthy and becomes the back we need him to be.
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Your opinion and no facts to back it up.
Oh, and tab................you ALWAYS use the "Chicken Little" and "The Sky is Falling" crap to demean other poster's opinions. And you have been so right over the years and I have been so wrong.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/13/trent-richardson-to-make-preseason-debut-thursday/
And..............I'll be camping with family. Oh well, I can't get the game on t.v. at home anyway......I can't get it at the campground. Can't get it on radio there. I'll probably have my phone (my "smart phone guys!!!)........but, by the time the game is on, I'll probably be drinking beer and playing corn hole.
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first time the guy goes down, I'll be back to say..."I told you so." I'm no genius and I'm often wrong (or rarely right?) but even the media gurus were scratching their heads on the shuffling to grab him and the pick we made. I don't think with my heart like so many rah rah folks on this board. We don't have a starting QB and we don't have a decent caliber group of running backs. Put whatever coaching staff, whatever front office staff, or whatever owner you want in charge and it don't mean a thing if you ain't got a team. Throughout the league and in the glorious media we have what is considered to be one of the best o-lines in the NFL. So, if the line is good and doing their job, which I believe to be true, then either the coaches or the players in the backfield are at fault. Well...here we go this year...all new front office and coaching staff. Same players in the backfield. If we do well, then Shurmur is the goat. And if we don't do well, it's just going to be another piece of evidence that the Browns have been "draftmentally handicapped." Either way...any dreck with an orange helmet on it will fly off the shelves. The stadium will be sold out every game. And the fat cats will laugh all the way to the bank while smiling and saying, "Cleveland has the stupidest fans on earth." And...yes...I'm one of them.
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The shuffling to grab him? Yes. The pick itself? No. Most people had us taking Richardson all along. He was the most talented player at a tremendous need.
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