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In shocking news, Brady Quinn, Momass and Jimmy Claussen were cut.
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Not to jump on a Steeler but Johnathan Dwyer would be a good pickup. Dan Carpenter as well. Not too sure what CB or WR to add from that bunch. Notable is Jordan Norwood getting cut twice (Buccaneers) in the same week.
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Yeah, I would strongly look at Dwyer as well.
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I think Dwyer would be an upgrade over Jackson and plus he would have a chip on his shoulder.
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I think that we need 3 RB. I see no reason why we need to displace Jackson yet.
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The Redskins cut CB Chase Minnifield. I was reading the Skins message boards and most were surprised by that move. Maybe we can bring him in for the PS.
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Gee not resigning phil dawson was idiotic.... but NOT HAVING A KICKER ON THE FINAL ROSTER?!!??!? the honey moon for me and this new regime is just about over...
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Give it a couple days, they'll probably have a kicker.
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Tim Tebow, Matt Leinart, Vince Young, Brady Quinn, and Jimmy Clausen are all currently unemployed. That's a famous QBs group of QBs that is currently unemployed.
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Gee not resigning phil dawson was idiotic.... but NOT HAVING A KICKER ON THE FINAL ROSTER?!!??!? the honey moon for me and this new regime is just about over...
Why?
Seriously. Why?
The 2 kickers we had didn't cover themselves in glory, both were hurt, and besides, we can add a kicker at a moment's notice. Basically we bought a roster spot for a week by cutting both kickers. This allows us more flexibility with position players as the Browns manipulate the roster. It gives them an extra spot that they can use to maybe hide a player they can move to the practice squad next week after other teams have set their squads. Imagine that they want to put Bryant on the practice squad, but are afraid that another team would claim him in the flurry of activity this time of year brings. The Browns, instead, keep him on the active roster until, say, next Friday. They then sign a Kicker, and cut A. Bryant. Teams are concentrating on their 1st game at that point, and it's more likely that they can sneak him through waivers onto their practice squad.
Is it a sure thing? No. Could it be a possibility that could work? Sure.
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I wouldn't be shocked if we just re-signed Graham at the end of the week. I read that Bogotay is probably out for the year with an injury.
This strategy actually makes sense. Keep as many guys that other people want as possible. Try and work a trade for a few extra days, if nothing works out cut a guy and sign the kicker.
Do people really think we are going to go into week one with no kicker?
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Vince Young is the only one of those QBs who was actually supposed to do anything. I think the rest of them were such overrated garbage i was disgusted at how much attention they got. Any Notre Dame player is automatically overrated just because that fanbase is so inflated and clueless as to reality (hence the fake girlfriends).
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That simply isn't true. Even if they were overrated, they were all supposed to be much more than they were.
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i see your point. But at the same time this just seems like an issue we could have just avoided by keeping dawson. I would love someone like Kickalicious in here to see what they can do, Bottomline though is that the last thing i want to see is this team have a huge upswing in success only to see it get destroyed by something as minute as a bad kicker.
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i see your point. But at the same time this just seems like an issue we could have just avoided by keeping dawson.
No one wants to rehash this, but you don't get to keep a player just because you want to. There has to be mutual interest on both sides.
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i see your point. But at the same time this just seems like an issue we could have just avoided by keeping dawson. I would love someone like Kickalicious in here to see what they can do, Bottomline though is that the last thing i want to see is this team have a huge upswing in success only to see it get destroyed by something as minute as a bad kicker.
We aren't going to be a Super Bowl team this year. Dawson is 38 right now. How much longer will he kick? How long will he be effective? He's been a freak so far ...... but he's also a guy who will probably go really bad once he starts to go bad.
It makes sense for the Browns to move on to a younger kicker they can develop. I didn't really like the idea of Shayne Graham, because he's old. I want a younger guy who can learn to kick in Cleveland this year, and then kick here for the next 5 or 6 years. Maybe Dawson would have been able to do that, but face it, the odds are really against that happening. Phil's a tremendous talent, but it's hard to count on a guy for a number of years when he's closing hard on 40. I think that it's time to move on and try to find the next long term kicker for the Cleveland Browns.
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That simply isn't true. Even if they were overrated, they were all supposed to be much more than they were.
Lets go down the list
Tim Tebow- essentially a one play wonder.. Demarius Thomas made people think Tebow was a star. But all college fans knew this guy was absolute garbage when it came to playing in the pros.
Matt Leinart- This guy was supposed to be good, but USC QBs dont have a good track record. Carson Palmer was great until his injury. Mark Sanchez... Matt Barkeley just got cut. I knew Leinart wasnt going to be as good as advertised espeically since Reggie Bush was the main piece in that offense at USC. And then you saw the off the field stuff Leinart did and knew it was over.
Vince Young- Like I said I felt he was the biggest let down at least for me personally. He was decent his rookie year (and cost us a playoff berth...) but then lost his mind mentally and supposedly contemplated suicide. Its surprising that hes still trying to play today.
Brady Quinn- Everyone wanted him to be great.. but his years at Notre Dame werent that great. It was nice that he was a Browns fan and a pretty boy who could make national (now national jokes) commercials but he dropped to 25 in the draft for a reason... a reason which the Browns chose to ignore.
Jimmy Clausen- an even worse version of Brady Quinn. some of the schools most pathetic moments came with him under center. He made Brady Quinn look like Joe Montana. I dont know why anyone would ever have had any expectations for this guy. Ugh i just remember him playing against the browns... that was a victory that just didnt feel too great to be honest.
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I'd rather have no kickers than two punters.
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Thank you for proving my point. Each of these guys was supposed to be much more than they were.
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i see your point. But at the same time this just seems like an issue we could have just avoided by keeping dawson. I would love someone like Kickalicious in here to see what they can do, Bottomline though is that the last thing i want to see is this team have a huge upswing in success only to see it get destroyed by something as minute as a bad kicker.
We aren't going to be a Super Bowl team this year. Dawson is 38 right now. How much longer will he kick? How long will he be effective? He's been a freak so far ...... but he's also a guy who will probably go really bad once he starts to go bad.
It makes sense for the Browns to move on to a younger kicker they can develop. I didn't really like the idea of Shayne Graham, because he's old. I want a younger guy who can learn to kick in Cleveland this year, and then kick here for the next 5 or 6 years. Maybe Dawson would have been able to do that, but face it, the odds are really against that happening. Phil's a tremendous talent, but it's hard to count on a guy for a number of years when he's closing hard on 40. I think that it's time to move on and try to find the next long term kicker for the Cleveland Browns.
I think it makes more sense for the Browns to milk him for every kick he had. Which is why i think Phil was the one who was more interested in leaving. And i dont blame him one bit i just wish someone came out and gave us some answers on that. Kickers have a long life in the NFL, so who knows how long Phil would have lasted.
Besides the point the more i think about it, the better i feel about this. I was mad when they signed Graham to begin with so i guess i should consider this a good thing. I just hope we dont turn into a lot of the teams in this league who are going through kickers like chewing tobacco.
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Who cares? It is the easiest position to replace in the NFL. Go through all the mediocre ones until you find a gem.
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to be honest i dont know who to blame. I guess ill drop this issue until it becomes a true issue. I guess in 14 years of Phil Dawson, ive never had to deal with these small kicker issues as a browns fan. So im probably blowing it way out of proportion.
On a side note. Im glad the browns cut David Nelson. I felt his performance was poor thursday and was surprised that Tony Grossi thought he'd be a lock. Im glad the browns didnt just entitle him with a roster spot. They've cut a lot of the fat off of this roster and it looks like we should have a better team this year.
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Matt Barkeley just got cut.
I see no evidence of Barkley being cut. Eagles cut Dennis Dixon to keep Barkley.
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Tim Tebow, Matt Leinart, Vince Young, Brady Quinn, and Jimmy Clausen are all currently unemployed. That's a famous QBs group of QBs that is currently unemployed.
You should add #1 overall pick David Carr to that list too. Also, another overall #1, JaMarcus Russell is still (presumably) trying to get back into NFL shape (if he's trying to become a guard).
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That simply isn't true. Even if they were overrated, they were all supposed to be much more than they were.
Didn't you know, Vince Young was actually attempting to make the Packers forget that they had Aaron Rodgers on the team. 
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Looking at the Raiders roster, both of them might get plenty of work too.
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Looking at the Raiders roster, both of them might get plenty of work too.
Their coaching staff was just planning ahead for the late weeks in the season when overuse and fatigue will kick in
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Thank you for posting this Anarchy
So, what do the Bears have in the way of back up QB's. both edwards and palmer were cut?
Did anyone see anything on that list of cuts that will help the Browns at CB, RB, OG? I didn't.
At least nothing jumped out at me.
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Not to jump on a Steeler but Johnathan Dwyer would be a good pickup. Dan Carpenter as well. Not too sure what CB or WR to add from that bunch. Notable is Jordan Norwood getting cut twice (Buccaneers) in the same week.
MoMass got cut twice also.. Three times if you count the browns letting him go.
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Dwyer RB Pit.. Trufant CB Jax ..Winfield CB Seattle.. Watkins OG Eagles
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Apparently Winnfield announced his retirement FWIW
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Tough weekend for former Buckeyes ... following were released:
S Anderson Russell (CAR)
OT Reid Fragel (CIN)
RB Daniel Herron (CIN)
DL Thaddeus Gibson (DAL)
TE Jake Stoneburner (GB)
TE Jake Ballard (HOU)
LB Austin Spitler (MIA)
OL JB Shugarts (NYJ)
LB Brian Rolle (PIT)
CB Antoine Winfield (SEA)
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Did anyone see anything on that list of cuts that will help the Browns at CB, RB, OG?
In another thread I posted:
Titans released C/OG Fernando Valesco. Apparantly he started 13 games at center and 3 at left guard for them last year.
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I don't know much about the Titans, but I've read that they have some pretty good offensive line depth. Presumably that would mean they would have to cut an O.K. offensive linemen.
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Marcus Trufant has fallen greatly in the past 2 years...I don't think he has much left with his age and some injuries under his belt and vet. Minimum I don't see him coming here...I could see him really wanting to play this year as his lil bro is in the league...but he may be too washed up...at one time he was a fine stud at CB
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This is why come April we cant believe everything the media says about cant miss QB's
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Vince Young is the only one of those QBs who was actually supposed to do anything. I think the rest of them were such overrated garbage i was disgusted at how much attention they got. Any Notre Dame player is automatically overrated just because that fanbase is so inflated and clueless as to reality (hence the fake girlfriends).
Whens the last time a ND QB did anything? I wasn't happy at all when Savage traded into the 1st to select Quinn.
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Vince Young is the only one of those QBs who was actually supposed to do anything. I think the rest of them were such overrated garbage i was disgusted at how much attention they got. Any Notre Dame player is automatically overrated just because that fanbase is so inflated and clueless as to reality (hence the fake girlfriends).
Whens the last time a ND QB did anything? Or a USC QB? I wasn't happy at all when Savage traded into the 1st to select Quinn.
what a waste of 2 first round picks. 
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