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Absolutely,, Russell is tops, followed very closely by (and in no particular order) Leaf, Shuler, Akili Smith, Tim Couch, Klingler, Harrington and the list can go on and on.

Brady Quinn, by virtue of when he was drafted in the 1st round, is way down the list.

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To be continued in 2014......Johnny ATM Manzeil is coming

I would too. Just because our record was so bad with Couch doesn't mean he wasn't capable of being a good NFL QB. Quite frankly, he might be the best QB we've had since 99

j/c:

Amazing! I remember many of the same posters who are now making fun of him calling me ignorant, a hater, and other names for saying BQ wasn't a good qb back in the day. Same as the situation w/Couch, although you guys don't make fun of him. And the same as we are now experiencing w/Weeden.

Don't dare admit you were wrong. Just act like you knew he sucked all along and then start ripping w/anyone who disagrees w/you all over again.

And before one of you get on me about letting it go and that I shouldn't bring it up........pfffttttt...........what really should happen is some of these guys either come clean or stop w/new ripping of other posters who don't follow the majority.

Timid was one of the worst picks of all time. And if that wasn't bad enough, they signed him to that ridiculous extension that effectively hamstrung the team for years.

It always amazes me how many people still defend that chump.

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Now he's done.

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It is possible to learn valuable things from a stupid person. (David Foster Wallace)

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HAHAHAHA

Well, I was on the BQ bandwagon, and never thought bad of the guy. I hope he has a great career in NY.

Butch abandoned the team after Couch was cut though...

And speaking of the Jets....

'Geno Smith to start for Jets vs. Buccaneers'

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By DENNIS WASZAK Jr. 10 minutes ago

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. (AP) — Geno Smith is the new face of the franchise for the New York Jets.

Well, at least for the opening game of the season.

Beyond that, we'll see.

The rookie quarterback will start for the Jets in the opener at home Sunday against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The team finally confirmed Wednesday what had been expected since Mark Sanchez injured his right shoulder in a preseason game against the Giants on Aug. 24.

"They'll try to rattle my cage," Smith said of the Buccaneers. "I expect those guys to come out fired up and they want to make a statement. They've got a rookie quarterback and they'll want to hit me and get me off my game, but I expect those things. And I look forward to it."

But, will Greg Schiano's defense be able to unnerve him?

"No," Smith said with a confident smile.

Smith, who had an up-and-down preseason, was the team's second-round draft pick out of West Virginia after he was projected by many to be selected early in the opening round. After Smith threw three interceptions and took a safety in three-plus quarters against the Giants, it was widely assumed Sanchez had won the job. But Rex Ryan chose to put Sanchez in the game in the fourth quarter — and he suffered the injury that could sideline him several weeks.

"We realize that a rookie quarterback and all that, that's certainly a challenge," Ryan said. "I think our guys are ready to rally behind Geno, and the big thing we've told Geno is, 'You just have to be part of the solution.'"

Despite announcing Smith as the starter for this week, Ryan wouldn't commit to him as the long-term guy under center. It was an approach that was echoed by both owner Woody Johnson and general manager John Idzik.

"We'll always put the best player we can on the field on Sunday, and that will continue," Johnson said. "The competition's ongoing."

With Smith stepping into the starter's role, it makes Sanchez's status with the team unclear. Ryan has still never declared a winner to the competition — and he might not ever do so. If Smith can be solid during Sanchez's absence, he could make it hard for Ryan to pull him. And, by never saying whether Smith or Sanchez had won the job, Ryan would never technically have benched the anointed starter.

While many look at the move as the team moving forward with a new quarterback, Idzik was asked if, when healthy, Sanchez has a chance to be the Jets' starter again.

"Yes, of course he does," Idzik said.

The Jets also have the inexperienced Matt Simms, who had a terrific preseason, and recently signed journeyman Brady Quinn. But with Sanchez not ready to play Sunday, the choice for Ryan, Idzik and offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg was easy for this week.

"We'll go through some ups and downs, I guarantee you that," Mornhinweg told the team's website. "Knowing Geno, hopefully there will be more ups than there are downs."

Smith was off to a great start in training camp, going several practices without throwing an interception and outperforming Sanchez on some days. But Smith sprained his right ankle in the third quarter of the Jets' preseason opener at Detroit and didn't play in the second game against Jacksonville because of the injury. He started against the Giants, with the general thought being he could potentially secure the starting job with a solid performance.

Instead, Smith showed his inexperience during a miserable performance — hurt in part by his ailing ankle — that appeared to tip the tightly contested competition in Sanchez's favor.

"I've been preparing my butt off," Smith said. "And that's something that's going to continue to improve."

But the quarterback situation changed when Sanchez took a crunching hit to the shoulder from the Giants' Marvin Austin. The Jets have said only that Sanchez — the starter since his rookie season in 2009 — was day to day with simply a "shoulder injury." The fact he hasn't practiced since, and the Jets signing Quinn on Monday were signs that Sanchez's injury was more serious than the team was initially letting on. But placing Sanchez on injured reserve doesn't appear to be an option at the moment.

"We're not looking at that," Idzik said.

Smith said his ankle is "steadily improving," and is "a ways away" from where it was in training camp, when he wasn't able to fully drive the ball as he planted his foot.

Sanchez was once considered the future of the franchise, a terrific talent with GQ looks, and consecutive trips to the AFC title game in his first two years drew natural comparisons to Joe Namath. But Sanchez struggled over the next few seasons, including an NFL-leading 52 turnovers the last two years, and failed to develop into the elite passer the Jets had hoped.

Ryan benched Sanchez for a game last season and it appeared his days in New York were numbered. His contract, however, and the $8.25 million in guarantees for this year made him unmovable. Still some have speculated that the Jets could simply cut Sanchez and move forward entirely with Smith.

"Mark is going to be on the team," Johnson said. "I don't think there's a question."

It appeared in spring that the Jets would let Sanchez compete with veteran David Garrard for the starting job. During the draft in April, the Jets went for defense with their two first-round picks, selecting cornerback Dee Milliner and defensive lineman Sheldon Richardson. But when their pick came up in the second round and Smith was still available, they jumped at the chance to take him.

In May, knee trouble caused Garrard to retire, leaving the competition between Sanchez and Smith.

A few months later, Smith has the opportunity — starting Sunday against Tampa Bay — to try to prove he might be the type of franchise-changing quarterback the Jets have been looking for.

"I'd like to be," Smith said. "That's a tough question, but honestly, I'd love to be the franchise quarterback here. I think that's the reason they brought me here."


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Looks like Brady was worse than the already bad QBs of the Jets. Jets releasing him:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/07/jets-releasing-brady-quinn-today/

I think he's going to get signed back by Jets, this was just temporary so they didn't have to guarantee his vested veteran salary

Just clicking...Tebow has to be near the top of the list of worst 1st round QBs taken.

Tim Couch...was a terrible pick for an expansion team...not cause he was Tim Couch...but any QB should not be taken when a team needs so much to start to become a team.

I would love to have Couch as a rookie right now...different result with Norv as the OC n Chud. I cannot with all honesty state he was terrible or good - he never had a chance. He never had the bottom base of a pocket. He always had a guy in his face as he threw. After being hit the way he was...he became damaged goods as in FOREVER. Weeden could turn out to be a pretty good QB he shouldn't come close on that list.

JMHO - n Vers, why is it so important for you to get love...lol

The NFL is a brutal business.

Rick Mirer

2nd pick of the 95 draft.

I considered him. Mirer at least had some longevity as a backup. His career is actually very similar to Brady Quinn. Looking at his career again he probably belongs on that list.

How can he resign if he was already cut? I think you mean re-sign.



(Sorry, that is a pet peeve of mine.)

Yeah, re-sign.

Is it true Couch may be doing TV commentary/analysis/ second guessing for (I think) Fox sports? This was being discussed at the spa today. How would he qualify? Any news.

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This was being discussed at the spa today.

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I'm afraid to ask.

see:

"Happy Endings" sub-theme in a thread from about 10 days ago-


git'em, Bard!

Saw a sign today at one of our local Friendly's that was advertising A Happy Ending Sundae think I'll pass .

yeah, I agree.

and... thanks for THAT image ...

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You still have some on this board that feel h was just awful.

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Interesting. I think it is more amazing that some on the board actually think he could have been a good player.

He did indeed have a terrible line at first. However, the OL developed and gave him plenty of time to throw as time went on. Timid couldn't read coverages. He held the ball forever. He was gun-shy. He couldn't make some of the throws. He wasn't very intelligent in terms of football.

I remember how the board was saying how good he would be when we were going to release him. LOL..............no one wanted him. That was before his injury was made public. GB finally took him as a back-up. He stunk the joint out and was cut. Then, came the injury excuse. He did try and come back a couple of more times. Said his arm was completely healed. He stunk and was cut again and again.

The guy was terrible and it amazes me that so many on this board still hold onto the fact that he could have been good. Just another example of not being able to admit they were wrong.

Or just another example of them being right and you being wrong buddy

Yep, your opinions are more worthwhile than facts.

Sometimes yes, and sometimes no

As long as you agree Holcomb was better, it's all good!

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gave him plenty of time to throw as time went on.

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Sorry you are correct on a lot of football facts...I don't think this is one of them.

As for what he would do after leaving the Browns. He was damaged goods - I think he retired because of Injuries not the fact NOBODY wanted him. Revisioned history is not good. lol

Man how many years later and somehow I see another Couch feud a brewing.

The kid NEVER had a base of the pocket...NEVER - never liked the pick especially in hind sight and also seeing Carr w/Texans...just a bad idea unless you are going to build that OL immediately which we did not.

JMHO but no big deal...he's gone n has nothing to do with the Browns present which is what I care about.